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Isaac Saul
Good morning, good afternoon, and good evening and welcome to the Tangle Podcast, a place we get views from across the political spectrum, some independent thinking, and a little bit of my take. I'm your host, Isaac Saul and this is going to be a brief message, an unusual one, not something we normally do here on the podcast. I'm just jumping on really quick to ask you guys to go read something. For the last few years, one of my favorite parts of Tangle has been hiring young writers and giving them an opportunity to work with us. Over the years we've had a number of quote unquote interns. Nobody really does intern work here. I mean, if you join our small team, we're going to put you to real work. And many of them have had major contributions to our publication, our newsletter, our website, the podcast. They've gone on to work for awesome publications, or they've left and returned years later to work for us. Last year, our managing editor, Ari Weitzman, decided to formalize this experience with a six month fellowship program. We got dozens of applications and we ended up hiring a woman named Hunter Casperson, A sharp writer, recent journalism master's graduate from California. Hunter immediately earned a reputation for thoughtful edits, for speaking her mind, and for stepping up to do whatever was asked of her. So this month, her six months at Tangle are coming to a close. And in the past, it's just been simply tradition that we've let Tangle interns write a kind of capstone piece. And this year, with the process formalized, we baked it into the initial schedule of working with Hunter. The prompt was simple. You can pick any topic you want to cover and at the end of your time with us, we'll work on a well researched long form piece with you that we'll publish as a Friday edition in our newsletter. So today we publish Hunter's capstone piece. It is, in my estimation, perfectly Tangle. It covers a controversial topic, it's personal, it's deeply researched, it's thoughtfully written, and it's, and most importantly, it offers fair treatment of a complicated issue. I want to point you to the piece which is up on our website now@readtangle.com it has headlined the Genetic Optimization of Life and those it May Leave behind. For all sorts of reasons, we weren't able to publish this piece as a podcast, which I apologize for, but I did want to drop in today and just nudge you to go to our website again readtangle.com and, and check out the piece titled the Genetic Optimization of Life and those it May Leave behind. It is a very, very interesting and thoughtful exploration of embryonic genetic testing and how quickly it's developing and what it might mean and many of the moral and ethical quandaries that it raises. So that's all I'm here to do today is to send you to our website and check out Hunter's Peace and also to say thank you to Hunter for all of her work and, and the tremendous contributions she's had in the last six months. All right, I will see you guys Sunday for the Sunday pod with me, Ari and Camille Peace.
Our executive editor and founder is me, Isaac Sowell, and our executive producer is John Lowell. Today's episode was edited and engineered by Dewey Thomas. Our editorial staff is led by Managing Editor Ari Weitzman with Senior Editor Will K. Back and Associate Editors Hunter Casperson, Audrey Moorhead Bailey, Saul Lindsey Knuth and Kendall White. Music for the podcast was produced by Diet75Live. To learn more about Tangle and to sign up for a membership, please visit our website@retangle.com.
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Episode Title: SPECIAL EDITION: The Genetic Optimization of Life — and the Lives It May Leave Behind
Host: Isaac Saul
Release Date: June 20, 2025
In this special edition of the Tangle podcast, host Isaac Saul diverges from the usual format to highlight a significant contribution from the Tangle team. Instead of the typical discussions and interviews, Saul focuses on showcasing the impactful work of Hunter Casperson, a standout writer from Tangle's newly formalized fellowship program.
Isaac Saul (02:09):
"For the last few years, one of my favorite parts of Tangle has been hiring young writers and giving them an opportunity to work with us."
Saul emphasizes the importance of nurturing young talent within Tangle, moving beyond traditional internship models to provide meaningful, hands-on experience. This approach has not only benefited the writers but also enriched Tangle’s content across various platforms, including the newsletter, website, and podcast.
Isaac Saul (03:20):
"Last year, our managing editor, Ari Weitzman, decided to formalize this experience with a six-month fellowship program. We ended up hiring Hunter Casperson, a sharp writer, recent journalism master's graduate from California."
Saul introduces Hunter Casperson, highlighting her exceptional contributions during her fellowship. Her dedication and skill led to the creation of a capstone piece titled "The Genetic Optimization of Life and Those It May Leave Behind."
Isaac Saul (04:10):
"Her piece is perfectly Tangle. It covers a controversial topic, it's personal, it's deeply researched, it's thoughtfully written, and it offers fair treatment of a complicated issue."
Hunter’s article delves into the rapidly advancing field of embryonic genetic testing. The piece explores the technological breakthroughs that make genetic optimization possible, while also addressing the profound moral and ethical dilemmas it presents. Topics such as the balance between scientific progress and ethical responsibility, potential societal impacts, and the implications for future generations are thoroughly examined.
Isaac Saul (04:55):
"I want to point you to the piece which is up on our website now @readtangle.com. It has headlined 'The Genetic Optimization of Life and Those It May Leave Behind.'... it's a very, very interesting and thoughtful exploration of embryonic genetic testing and how quickly it's developing and what it might mean and many of the moral and ethical quandaries that it raises."
Saul encourages listeners to visit Tangle’s website to read Hunter’s comprehensive analysis. He underscores the importance of engaging with such content to foster informed discussions around complex and contentious issues in modern politics and science.
Isaac Saul (05:10):
"I also want to say thank you to Hunter for all of her work and the tremendous contributions she's had in the last six months."
As the episode draws to a close, Saul extends gratitude to Hunter for her exceptional work and contributions to Tangle. He also teases the upcoming "Sunday pod" featuring himself, Ari, and Camille Peace, inviting listeners to continue engaging with Tangle’s diverse content.
This special edition of the Tangle podcast serves as a testament to the platform’s commitment to fostering new talent and addressing pivotal issues through thoughtful journalism. By spotlighting Hunter Casperson’s capstone piece, Isaac Saul not only celebrates individual achievement but also underscores the critical discourse surrounding genetic optimization and its far-reaching implications.
Isaac Saul (02:09):
"For the last few years, one of my favorite parts of Tangle has been hiring young writers and giving them an opportunity to work with us."
Isaac Saul (04:10):
"Her piece is perfectly Tangle. It covers a controversial topic, it's personal, it's deeply researched, it's thoughtfully written, and it offers fair treatment of a complicated issue."
Isaac Saul (04:55):
"It's a very, very interesting and thoughtful exploration of embryonic genetic testing and how quickly it's developing and what it might mean and many of the moral and ethical quandaries that it raises."
To read Hunter Casperson’s full capstone piece, visit readtangle.com and look for the article titled "The Genetic Optimization of Life and Those It May Leave Behind."
Note: This summary excludes promotional content and focuses solely on the main message delivered by Isaac Saul during the episode.