The DHS shakeups in Minnesota.

Summary

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Podcast Summary – Tangle

Episode: The DHS Shakeups in Minnesota
Host: Isaac Saul
Date: January 29, 2026

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Episode Overview

This Tangle episode focuses on the recent upheaval and leadership changes within the Department of Homeland Security’s (DHS) immigration enforcement operations in Minnesota. Sparked by two controversial shootings of U.S. citizens by federal agents and widespread protests, the episode delivers perspectives from both the left and right, political ramifications, and host Isaac Saul’s detailed analysis of the evolving crisis.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Situation in Minnesota (03:17–08:16)

• Recent DHS-led immigration enforcement in Minnesota led to the fatal shootings of two U.S. citizens: Alex Preddy and Renee Good, resulting in public outcry and bipartisan scrutiny.
• President Trump appointed “border czar” Tom Homan to oversee Minnesota enforcement, replacing Commander Gregory Bovino, who returned to California with several DHS agents.
• The shootings have caused a political rift, with state and city officials (Governor Tim Walz and Mayor Jacob Frey) demanding an end to aggressive federal operations.

Quote:
“We're going to de-escalate a little bit. But I will tell you, you look at the numbers, they're doing better than they've done in many years because we took thousands of criminals out of Minnesota.”
— Isaac Saul quoting recent Trump remarks (04:45)

2. Political Fallout and DHS Funding (06:00–08:16)

• The Democratic and Republican standoff over DHS funding intensifies, with both sides demanding reforms or changes in leadership.
• Senate Democrats threaten to withhold funding unless reforms are attached, including increased oversight and accountability for DHS and ICE agents.
• Calls grow, even from GOP senators, for the removal of DHS Secretary Kristi Noem and an independent investigation into the recent shootings.

3. Perspectives from the Right (09:54–12:38)

• The right largely supports continued immigration enforcement but calls for transparent investigations into the shootings.
• Editorials argue federal jurisdiction takes precedence, and activists are to blame for escalating tensions.
• Criticism is mounting against DHS Secretary Noem for focusing enforcement on non-compliant Democratic areas — some on the right want to see a return to targeted deportations of “criminal illegal aliens.”

Quote:
“They did not vote for and will not tolerate a permanent new police state where American citizens are killed with impunity and the administration turns around and lies about the circumstances of those killings.”
— Robbie Soave, The Hill (11:35)

4. Perspectives from the Left (12:40–17:50)

• The left blames Trump’s harsh immigration tactics for unnecessary violence and community trauma.
• Governor Walz condemns federal agents’ conduct as “un-American” and illegal — highlighting warrantless raids and aggressive detentions.
• Many see pushing for reforms and firing Noem as necessary, but argue they’re only a start to restoring order and humanity in immigration enforcement.

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“That isn't effective law enforcement. It isn't following the rule of law. It's chaos, it's illegal, and it's un-American.”
— Gov. Tim Walz, Wall Street Journal (13:40)

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“The very definition of a police state is that the law applies to ordinary people but not to the police, which in this context includes ICE.”
— Noah Feldman, Bloomberg (16:40)

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Isaac Saul’s Take: “10 Thoughts on Minnesota” (17:50–25:36)

Isaac Saul delivers ten nuanced reflections on the Minnesota DHS crisis. Key highlights:

1. Trump’s Reactivity: Trump often shifts with public sentiment, which, Isaac notes, is both rare and beneficial in politics.

   • “Enough public pressure can genuinely change his mind because he is not a particularly ideological person.” (17:54)

2. Political Strategy: Trump frequently walks allies out “onto a limb” and then pivots, leaving them exposed as political winds change.

3. Operational Changes: ICE agents have been told to avoid confrontations and focus solely on immigrants with criminal histories.

4. Leadership Accountability: Isaac calls for DHS Secretary Kristi Noem’s firing, citing repeated violations and public distrust — but predicts Trump may resist due to political polarization.

5. Funding Reform Package: Possible congressional compromise includes requiring body cameras, banning mask-wearing by federal agents, halting random sweeps, and applying equitable use-of-force protocols.

6. Need for Transparency: Demands for an independent investigation into both agent-involved shootings:

   • “We cannot live in a world where agents of the government kill American citizens without any accountability...” (22:10)

7. Judicial Rebuke: Minnesota’s Chief District Judge Schiltz, despite conservative credentials, rebuked ICE for violating nearly 100 court orders in January alone.

8. Public Sentiment: Immigration is a “thermostatic” issue — enforcement excesses drive sympathy for immigrants, while chaos at the border drives the opposite. Both parties struggle to balance public sentiment.

9. Video Evidence Nuances: Isaac analyzes recent video of shooting victim Alex Preddy — finds his prior aggressive behavior does not justify his later killing, spotlighting the gap in law enforcement response.

10. Grassroots Shockwaves: The crisis mobilized previously unengaged citizens across Minnesota, potentially shifting the state’s and country’s electoral dynamics.

Memorable Quote:
“A lot of normal Americans who have never even been to a protest before just hate what is happening in their towns... Americans everywhere tend to resist obvious and dangerous government overreach.” (24:25)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “This is a seismic event in Minnesota that has major electoral implications across the country…”
  — Isaac Saul (24:44)

• “ICE is not the problem in Minneapolis. Leftist violence is… (other states) do not tell the good men and women of federal law enforcement to get out of their cities.”
  — Mike Davis, Fox News (12:28)

• “It’s like night and day… Proof that the agents who killed him had many other options.”
  — Isaac Saul, analyzing Alex Preddy video (23:22)

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Key Timestamps for Important Segments

• Main Theme Introduction: 01:56–03:16
• News Rundown & Minnesota Crisis Overview: 03:17–08:16
• Analysis: Right Perspective: 09:54–12:38
• Analysis: Left Perspective: 12:40–17:50
• Isaac’s Take – “10 Thoughts on Minnesota”: 17:50–25:36
• Notable Quotes & Reactions: Throughout analysis segments
• References to Electoral and Policy Consequences: 24:25–24:45

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Tone & Style

• The episode maintains Tangle’s independent, non-partisan voice but includes passionate arguments and direct quotes from stakeholders, often mirroring the original language and urgency of the speakers and writers.
• Isaac Saul’s commentary is personal, candid, and blended with a journalist’s sense of responsibility to fairness and accuracy.

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This comprehensive episode captures the legal, political, and human stakes of the ongoing DHS shakeups in Minnesota, offering listeners a broad spectrum of viewpoints and a clear, critical perspective on what’s next for immigration enforcement, federal accountability, and grassroots political momentum.

Transcript

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[Isaac Saul]

Good morning, good afternoon and good evening and welcome to the Tangle Podcast, a place we get views from across the political spectrum, some independent thinking and a little bit of my take. I'm your host Isaac Saul and It is Thursday, January 29th. Today we are talking about the de escalation in Minnesota, the shakeup of the immigration enforcement. I'm not exactly sure what to call it, but it's a developing situation and it's real. But we're going to break down exactly what's going on, share some views from the left and the right and then get into my take. Before we get started, a quick heads up that this week the rapper and cultural icon formerly known as Kanye west, now known as Ye, took out a full page ad in the Wall Street Journal apologizing for his past anti Semitic remarks and blaming some of his actions on manic bipolar episodes. Tomorrow I'm going to write about that apology. I'm going to write about how I view it and what the response to Ye's apology tells us about American cultural values. That's going to be a paid members only post, so keep an eye out for it and don't forget to subscribe if you want to unlock it. All right, I'm going to send it over to John for today's main show and I'll be back for my take.

[John Law]

Thanks, Isaac and welcome everybody. Here are your quick hits for today. First up, the Federal Open market committee voted 10 to 2 to keep interest rates unchanged at 3.5% to 3.75%. The committee said U.S. economic growth has been solid and the unemployment rate has shown some signs of stabilization. 2 Trump appointed federal Reserve governors dissented and supported a quarter point rate cut. Number two Federal Bureau of Investigation agents searched an election center in Fulton County, Georgia as part of an investigation into the 2020 election. The agent's warrant authorized them to search for all physical ballots from the 2020 general election and other election related materials. Number three President Donald Trump said that the USS Abraham Lincoln and its strike group are deploying to the Middle east in preparation for a potential attack on Iran. The President called on Iran to negotiate with the United States over a deal on its nuclear weapons program. 4 Secretary of State Marco Rubio testified before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee telling lawmakers that the US does not intend to take further military action in Venezuel, but that it reserved the right to in response to an imminent threat. And number five, Democratic Senator Amy Klobuchar announced her candidacy for Minnesota governor.

[Isaac Saul]

We have Tom Holman there now.

[John Law]

We put him in there, he's great.

[Isaac Saul]

And they met with the governor, the.

[John Law]

Mayor, everybody else and well, we're going.

[Isaac Saul]

To de escalate a little bit.

[John Law]

But I will tell you, you look at the numbers, they're doing better than they've done in many years because we.

[Isaac Saul]

Took thousands of criminals out of Minnesota.

[John Law]

On Monday, President Donald Trump announced that border czar Tom Homan would go to Minnesota to oversee immigration enforcement efforts. Border control Commander Gregory Bovino, who had previously spearheaded the operations, reportedly left Minnesota on Tuesday along with an unspecified number of Department of Homeland Security agents. Bovino returned to his previous post in California. Separately, two Customs and Border Patrol agents who fired guns in the Saturday shooting death of 37 year old US citizen Alex Preddy were placed on leave. Bovino previously shared that the agents had been reassigned to another state but were still working. The moves follow widespread bipartisan scrutiny of DHS over Preddy's death and the earlier shooting death of 37 year old US citizen Renee Good by an Immigration and Customs Enforcement officer. We covered the death of Renee Goode and the death of Alex Preddy. You can check out our coverage with links in today's episode Description Also on Monday, President Trump announced that he had a very good call with Minnesota governor Tim Walz, saying that the two were on a similar wavelength regarding the path forward for immigration operations in the state and that Walz had agreed to comply with federal immigration enforcement. Walz's office told Fox News that the call with Trump was productive, adding that the governor had emphasized Minnesota was already in compliance with federal forces. Later in the day, Trump said that he had a similarly productive call with Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Fry, who said that he appreciated the conversation and was clear that my main ask is that Operation Metro surge needs to end. In a Tuesday interview with Fox News, Trump called the shooting deaths of Good and Preddy terrible and said that he planned to de escalate a little bit in Minnesota. Trump stressed that this was not a pullback in enforcement efforts in the state and has since criticized Mayor Fry's comments that that Minneapolis will not enforce federal immigration law, saying Frye was playing with fire. In a Thursday morning press conference in Minneapolis, Homan said the government would draw down the number of DHS agents in Minnesota and that the administration would prioritize criminal aliens, public safety threats and national security threats. On Wednesday, a new video surfaced of an altercation Alex Purdy had with DHS agents 11 days prior to his death, in which he appears to spit at an officer before kicking out the taillight on their vehicle. Preddy is wrestled to the ground by the agents but then let go. President Trump shared the video on Truth Social on Wednesday night but has not commented directly on the development. Additionally, several prominent lawmakers have called for Kristi Noem to be removed as DHS secretary, including Republican Senators Thom Tillis from North Carolina and Lisa Murkowski from Alaska. Other GOP lawmakers publicly called on the Trump administration to open a thorough investigation into Preddy's death and asked the administration to reconsider its deportation method. The political pressure is weakening support for an appropriations package that includes funding for DHS and ice. A vote on the funding package is scheduled for Thursday and federal funding will lapse if the bill is not passed by Friday. Senate Democrats have threatened to withhold votes unless Senate Republicans add several DHS reforms and strip DHS funding. Senate Majority Leader John Thune, the Republican from South Dakota, said right now the conversation should be between the White House and Democrats. Today we'll go over what the right and the left are saying about the recent shakeups and the DHS funding bill, and then Isaac's take.

[Isaac Saul]

We'll be right back after this quick break.

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First up, let's start with what the right is saying. Many on the right support an impartial investigation into DHS's actions in Minnesota and the tactics of activists. Some say President Trump was smart to put Homan in charge of operations. Others argue the deportation effort must continue despite protester resistance. The Washington examiner editorial board called for an investigation into the Minnesota shootings. Senate Democrats are coalescing around a number of proposals, including a demand that the Department of Homeland Security cooperate with state investigations of the deaths. Considering Minnesota's complete inability to police massive welfare fraud in its own jurisdiction, the refusal of state law enforcement agencies to cooperate with immigration agencies and the obvious bias of the state's top law enforcement official. Such a state led investigation is an obvious non starter, the board wrote. People across the country, not just in Minnesota, nevertheless deserve a full account of what happened. Did Goode and Preddy encounter them randomly while they were going about their daily routine and then suddenly decide to intervene? Of course not. Were they rather part of larger groups that have been tracking, following and actively interfering with federal law enforcement? What are the goals of these groups? What are their tactics? The board said. Unfortunately, President Donald Trump's Justice Department does not have the credibility to conduct an investigation of the shootings on its own. An independent party could be appointed within the Justice Department to lead the investigations, a person approved by Democratic and Republican senators in the Hill, Robbie Soav wrote. Send in Tom Homan. Behind the scenes, there's tremendous frustration among immigration enforcement officers and other Republican officials with the job that Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem is doing. Under her leadership, immigration enforcement has focused on areas where there is maximum non compliance from local Democratic authorities, soav wrote. You can argue that these are necessary fights that the administration is picking, but Homan prefers to actually accomplish the job of deporting large numbers of criminal illegal aliens. The administration has a short window to restore confidence in their operations, which they must do. The American people voted for Trump to carry out deportations of illegal immigrants who are gang members and fraudsters and a net drain on communities, soav wrote. They did not vote for and will not tolerate a permanent new police state where American citizens are killed with impunity and the administration turns around and lies about the circumstances of those killings. In Fox News, Mike Davis said surrender is not an option for ice's Minnesota mission. After days of Democratic spurred riots, President Trump and Minnesota governor Tim Walz had a phone call on Monday. Trump described it as very good and Walls expressed a desire to work together. This detente may be short lived as leftist agitators have now turned on Walls and directed their protests to his office. Regardless, ICE's withdrawal from Minneapolis would be a disaster and cannot occur, davis wrote. Immigration is squarely under the federal domain. Indeed, over a decade ago the Obama Justice Department successfully sued Arizona for attempting to independently enforce federal immigration law. Now ISIS and Minneapolis. Pursuant to this core power, ICE is not the problem in Minneapolis. Leftist violence is. Florida and Texas each have far more people and illegals than does Minnesota. We do not hear about the tumult in those states for one reason, stellar state leadership, Davis said. Texas Governor Greg Abbott and Florida Governor Ron DeSantis respect the Constitution, including ICE's law enforcement authority. These governors do not use Holocaust references and they do not tell the good men and women of federal law enforcement to get out of their cities. And in sharp contrast to Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Fraud, Alright, that is it for what the right is saying. Which brings us to what the left is saying. Many on the left argue that President Trump's immigration tactics are to blame for rising tensions in Minnesota. Some say that the reforms that Democrats are seeking are important, but only one step toward lasting change. Others call for accountability for federal agents involved in the shootings. In the Wall Street Journal, Minnesota Governor Tim Walls criticized the un American assault on Minnesota. Everyone wants to see our immigration laws enforced. That isn't what's happening in Minnesota. In recent weeks, masked agents have abducted children. They have separated children from their parents. They have racially profiled off duty police officers. They have aggressively pulled people over and demanded to see their papers. They've broken into homes of elderly citizens without warrants to drag them outside in freezing temperatures, walsh said. That isn't effective law enforcement. It isn't following the rule of law. It's chaos, it's illegal, and it's un American. I have repeatedly appealed to President Trump to lower the temperature, but he refuses. I fear that his hope for the tension between ICE agents and the communities they're ransacking to boil over that he wants to see more chaos on your TV screens, protests turn into riots and more people get hurt, waltz wrote. The assault on our communities is not necessary to enforce our immigration laws. We don't have to choose between open borders and whatever the hell this is. Mr. Trump can and must end this unlawful, violent and chaotic campaign, and we can and must rebuild an immigration enforcement system that is secure, accountable and humane. In Ms. Now, Hays Brown argued it's time for Democrats to start dismantling ice. The Trump administration is now on its back foot, and even Republican lawmakers have raised questions about whether Preddy really deserved to die, as though the first inklings of shame have finally begun creeping back into their bodies. The swiftly shifting political headwinds have left Democratic lawmakers who had seemed sure to begrudgingly fund DHS later this week looking to press their advantage. Given the stakes and what is likely to be a brief window for action, there's little room for error or delay to prevent the rot within DHS from metastasizing further, Brown said. Noem herself is an understandable target given her visibility and callousness. When confronted with evidence of DHS agents, culpability an undue focus on Noem, though, would be an ironic shadow of the conservative ethos, looking to solve problems at the individual level rather than taking on the system as Republicans ignored as they targeted Noem's predecessor, Biden administration DHS chief Alejandro Mayorkas. She is dutifully following orders coming from the president, brown wrote. While two thirds of the upper chamber voting to show Nome the door would make for a stunning political rebuke, it would be all too easy to confuse that shiny trophy as a true victory. The reforms pushed by Senator Chris Murphy and other Democrats are likewise important, but, as Murphy himself recognized, still only scratched the surface of how we reached this point in the first place. In Bloomberg, Noah Feldman argued federal agents must face the rule of law. The law on the books is extremely clear that Minnesota prosecutors and law enforcement have the authority to investigate and criminally charge Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents who have not acted in a way that is necessary and proper to carry out their official duties. That certainty includes unjustified shootings. Legal immunity from state prosecution for federal officers arises only if they are found to have been carrying out their duties in that manner. The federal government and the Trump administration have no legal leg to stand on in attempting to impede the investigations, for courts should affirm that, Feldman said. No criminal justice system catches every criminal, and no just criminal justice system convicts every criminal who is apprehended. There is room for error and resource limitations. What there is no room for is obvious impunity and lack of accountability. Impunity is worse when it's a government official who violates the law. The very definition of a police state is that the law applies to ordinary people but not to the police, which in this context includes ice. All right, let's head over to Isaac for his take.

[Isaac Saul]

All right. That is it for the left and the right are saying. Which brings us to my take. The situation with DHS and Minnesota is actively evolving. It's changing by the minute. So I'm recording this late Thursday morning on January 29th. I'm going to offer 10 thoughts about where things stand right now as I record this. Number one, Trump is reactive to public sentiment and polling. This is and will continue to be one of my favorite things about him as president. Enough public pressure can genuinely change his mind because he is not a particularly ideological person. Even now on an issue he is perhaps most ideological about, he's adjusting his course after his enforcement efforts became a major political liability. It's a good characteristic of Trump's and a good development. Number two, I'm Fascinated by how often Trump walks people out onto a limb and then cuts it off. A few days ago, the president called the protests in Minnesota an insurrection and signaled he was ready to push back with the full force of the federal government. His aides and allies in the media followed him out onto the limb, immediately defending the killing of Alex Preddy and positioning all opposition to immigration enforcement as akin to domestic terrorism. Then Trump felt the issue turning against him and started distancing himself from people like Kristy Noem who were trying to enforce his stated position. It really is remarkable how often that this happens. Number three. According to Reuters, ICE agents have now been directed not to interact with agitators and to only target immigrants who have criminal charges or convictions in Minneapolis. This would be a major departure from their methods thus far and would also constitute a pivot toward Trump's previously stated goal to focus on the worst of the worst. But the truth is, a finite number of immigrants are here illegally who also have criminal records, and any deportation effort limited to that scope would need to be narrow and well organized. I think it's an open question whether this DHS under Christy Noem is capable of that. Speaking of Noem, President Trump should fire her. One of Biden's great failings was that incompetence was really met with consequence, most notably when the disastrous Afghanistan withdrawal produced zero firings and no leadership shakeups, something Trump called attention to during his campaign. Noem leads an agency that has now killed two American citizens in three weeks in shootings that the public broadly views as horrific and unnecessary. And she has overseen and condoned systematic violations of the rights of thousands of other people and and ignored dozens of court orders. She's being criticized harshly by Republicans in the Senate. Discontent with leadership is widespread among agents and dhs, and her inability to step before a microphone without lying has cost the president any political leverage he might have had on immigration enforcement. Yet I believe he probably won't fire her because he despises a lot of the people calling for it. And the negative polarization effect on Trump makes him averse to ever giving his opponents a perceived win. Number five. Trump and Republicans look to be playing ball with Democrats over DHS funding in the appropriations package due Friday. The new plan could include provisions that force DHS agents to remove their masks, wear body cameras, halt random sweeps and warrantless searches, and apply the same use of force policies that are applied to local and state law enforcement agencies. That last item is critical, as it would mean independent investigations for violent interactions. It's incredible to me that this isn't already the case, but I'll take it and I hope Republicans do too. If Democrats get this win, it would probably constitute the most notable successful act of resistance since Trump took office a second time. Number six, whatever happens in Congress, DHS must allow an independent investigation into both of the agent involved shootings. To put it simply, we cannot live in a world where agents of the government kill American citizens without any accountability, especially when they're trying to conceal their own identities. Maybe their actions will be determined lawful, maybe not, but there must be an investigation. Number seven, Politico published a fascinating piece this week about Minnesota's Chief District Judge Patrick Schiltz, a veteran in conservative legal circles who was a mentor to Supreme Court Justice Amy Coney Barrett and whose typically low key demeanor has been supplanted by a fury at the Trump administration for violating nearly 100 court orders and laws. In what I believe is an unprecedented moment, Judge Schiltz demanded the head of Immigration and Customs Enforcement, Todd Lyons, appear before the court on Friday to explain his agency's, quote, rampant violations of court orders. Schiltz has since backed off the order for Lyons to appear, but reaffirmed his criticisms of the agency's conduct, saying, quote, isis likely violated more court orders in January 2026 than some federal agencies have violated in their entire existence. Again, this rebuke is coming from a Republican appointed judge with strong conservative bona fides, so tells us a lot about how far the administration has overstepped. Number eight, immigration has been a swing issue in the US for years, and in many ways it's thermostatic. When the border seems out of control and stories about towns inundated with tens of thousands of migrants dominate the headlines, Support for immigrant communities goes down when the border is secure and masked ICE agents are snatching people who have lived here peacefully for 20 years off the street, support for immigrant communities goes up. Most people interact positively with immigrant communities, legal and illegal on a daily basis, but want a sense of security in their country, towns and homes. And most people want those who come here to follow the law. A political force that could hold these sentiments at once could make a lot of progress on this issue, but both sides have trouble walking these lines. Number nine, the new Alex Preddy video is being framed by some people as proof he was not a peaceful protester but a violent agitator. It obviously doesn't reflect well on him, but his actions in this video aren't particularly relevant to how agents treated him. Nearly two weeks later when he was far more docile. The video also doesn't justify shooting him. I'm most interested in how different it is from the video of his killing. His behavior is worse. He appears to spit at an agent and then kicks their car's tail light while the agent's behavior is much better. They wrestle him down, yes, but then, seeming to realize the situation is dangerous, let him off the ground. One or two agents even get between Preddy and the agents he's screaming at to de escalate. It's like night and day. It's both proof that Preddy was more aggressive in other interactions with agents, and it's proof that the agents who killed him had many other options. Number 10 in Minneapolis, Trump's enforcement effort has brought scores of non political people off the sidelines. Administration officials have framed the protesters as left wing agitators coordinated by some kind of deep pocketed funders. But on the ground reporting suggests something different. A lot of normal Americans who have never even been to a protest before just hate what is happening in their towns. This is a seismic event in Minnesota that has major electoral implications across the country, where I suspect a lot of previously unengaged voters are now paying close attention to what is happening. I expect to see a similar reaction anywhere Trump directs his enforcement efforts when they're like this. Not because Trump is sending agents into radical leftist enclaves, but because Americans everywhere tend to resist obvious and dangerous government overreach. That's a logistical and political obstacle that I do not see the Trump administration conquering anytime soon. We'll be right back after this quick break.

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