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Good morning, good afternoon and good evening and welcome to the Tangle Podcast, a place where you get views from across the political spectrum, some independent thinking and a little bit of our take. I'm your host Today Senior editor Will K. Beck. Today we're going to be covering the end of the shutdown of the Department of Homeland Security. The shutdown began all the way back on February 14th of this year and it spanned 76 days until Congress passed a funding measure to reopen the department last week. So we're going to be taking a 30,000 foot view and asking the core question of what was the point of this shutdown? What did it accomplish? What norms were potentially undermined or made more fragile, and what can we expect the longer term consequences to be? We'll get into the full details in a second, but before we jump into today's topic, I wanted to flag that Isaac is appearing on Breaking Points with Crystal Ball and Sagar and Jetty this morning to discuss his much discussed Friday edition from last week about the allegations of corruption in the second Trump administration. We've done a lot of promotion of that piece on our end and it has driven a massive response across the Tangle community across social media, on our website, in the comments section over email, on our texting service, Substack, on our Reddit page, all of the above. And that engagement has started to get the piece noticed by some people outside of the community, including Sagar and Crystal, who who reached out and invited Isaac on to talk more about the piece. It was a great interview. It was conducted this morning. It's up on their YouTube channel now. We'll drop a link to it in the show Notes for today. And if you're interested in hearing Isaac talk a little bit more about what went into that piece and what he discovered over the process of reporting on it, you can hear it in that interview. All right, now I'm going to pass it over to John to get us started on today's topic and then I will be back in a bit to read my take John over to you.
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Thanks Isaac and welcome everybody. Here are your quick hits for today. First up, the United Arab Emirates said that multiple missiles were launched toward its territory from Iran. The missiles were intercepted or fell into the sea. The country also blamed Iran for a series of fires at UAE fuel facilities and on ships off of its coast. Separately, the United States said it sank several Iranian military boats that had fired missiles at commercial vessels in the Strait of Hormuz. The incidents potentially imperil the U. S. Iran ceasefire. Number two, the Secret Service said its agents exchanged gunfire with a suspect near the White House, causing the building to briefly lock down. The suspect was shot and is currently hospitalized, but further details have not been released. A 15 year old bystander was also shot and sustained non life threatening injuries. Number three, Florida Governor Ron DeSantis signed into law a new congressional map that could net Republicans four additional seats in the U.S. house. The map is expected to face legal challenges. Number four, the Supreme Court issued an unsigned order granting a request to immediately finalize its opinion in Louisiana v. Calais, which found that one of Louisiana's majority black congressional districts was unconstitutionally gerrymandered based on race. The decision will allow the state to adopt a new map before the 2026 midterms. Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson dissented. And number five, the Justice Department officially ended its investigation into Federal Reserve Chair Jerome Powell over the cost of the central bank's renovation project in Washington, D.C. in U.S. attorney for D.C. jeanine Pirro said that the Inspector General for the Federal Reserve is launching an inquiry into the project.
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The longest federal department shutdown in US History is now over. President Donald Trump signed a bill yesterday to fund most of the Department of Homeland Security restoring money for the Coast Guard and tsa. It does not include money for ICE and Border Patrol. Lawmakers are working on a separate plan for those agencies. The President expects that package on his desk by June 1.
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On Thursday, April 30, the House of Representatives passed legislation to fund the Department of Homeland Security and end the department's 76 day shutdown, the longest shutdown in US government history. The House of Representatives and the Senate each had passed separate bills to end the shutdown. On Thursday, the House approved the Senate's legislation in a voice vote under suspension of the rules, and President Donald Trump signed the bill into law the same day. For context, the shutdown began on February 14amid tensions over the Trump administration's immigration enforcement efforts, with Democrats refusing to fund the department without significant reform to Immigration and Customs Enforcement and Customs and Border Patrol. DHS oversees ICE and CBP as well as a host of other agencies including the Transportation Security Administration, the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency, the Federal Emergency management agency, the U.S. coast Guard and the Secret Service. While the shutdown paused funding for most DHS departments, the One Big Beautiful Bill act provided advance funding for ICE and cbp, allowing them to continue full operations. You can check out our previous coverage of the shutdown with links in today's episode Description the end of the shutdown comes after a weeks long standoff between House and Senate Republicans. The House of Representatives would not consider a unanimous Senate bill to fund all of DHS except its immigration enforcement agencies. Then on April 29, the House voted to adopt a Senate resolution to increase ICE and CBP budgets by about $70 billion. Following the approval of the Senate's budget proposal, the White House reportedly sent a memo urging the House to approve the DHS funding bill and end the shutdown. On May 4, Republicans in the House and Senate released the text of their plan. With $72 billion in total funding, the bill contains $38.2 billion for ICE, $26 billion for CBP and smaller amounts for DHS. The Justice Department and the Secret Service GOP leaders are aiming to pass the bill by June 1. Representatives of both parties welcomed the end of the shutdown and blame the opposition for its length, House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries said. For more than two months, the Donald Trump and House Republicans have kept the Department of Homeland Security shut down because of their toxic demand to spend billions of taxpayer dollars on ICE brutality. Today, the extremists back down Representative Andrew Garbarino, Republican from New York and chair of the House Committee on Homeland security said. For 76 days, congressional Democrats forced a shutdown of the Department of Homeland Security. While the majority of the department has now been funded, I remain committed to ensuring every component of DHS is, including those tasked with border security, has the resources and oversight needed to succeed. Roughly 1,100 CISA staff reportedly left the agency during the shutdown. TSA staffing had a turnover of 8%, nearly double its usual rate of 4.6%, according to DHS Secretary Mark Wayne Mullen. Today we'll get into what writers from the left and right are saying about the end of the shutdown, and then Senior Editor Will Kbach will give his take. We'll be right back after this quick break.
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But with the shutdown now in its 11th week, Congress is playing with fire, Lindbergh said much of the activity of prevention consists of informed speculation about what might happen. The idea is to map out plausible sequences of events leading to a bad outcome, then to derail the sequence. A lot of planning and wargaming is essential to getting ahead of potential threats. Yet the partial shutdown at DHS has forced much of this activity to close shop as non essential, lindbergh wrote. The Secret Service and the Transportation Security Administration were both on the scene Saturday to perform essential functions, and they did their jobs. Because Democrats loathe the Trump administration's immigration policies, it falls to the GOP to find ways to fund dhs. Never has non essential been so essential in times. Republican Representative Randy Feenstra, the Republican from Iowa, argued the DHS funding lapse has strained homeland security operationally. Agencies are struggling to pay vendors, maintain facilities and support critical travel. These are not just abstract problems. They have direct consequences at our ports of entry. CBP facilities risk losing essential services, including utilities and communications, if payments lapse, Feenstra said. Law enforcement officers incurred travel expenses they may not be reimbursed for, adding further strain on their families. Training programs across multiple agencies have also been canceled, and critical cybersecurity efforts have been scaled back, increasing vulnerabilities to foreign adversaries. The impacts extend far beyond just border enforcement. FEMA announced that it is nearing depletion of its disaster relief fund, which has been a lifeline for communities like Rock Valley when responding to emergencies and natural disasters. TSA staffing shortages contributed to longer airport wait times, delayed flights and even flights being canceled, Feenstra said. Lets be clear, this is not about partisanship. It is about ensuring that the men and women who defend our country have the support they need to do their jobs. It is about maintaining the operational integrity of the agencies that safeguard our borders, respond to our disasters and prevent attacks. In town hall, Jenny Beth Martin said now is the time to fund the Department of Homeland Security. Democrats are determined not to fund ICE and CBP lest they offend the radical base that demands defunding all law enforcement authorities and lose the base's engagement and turnout in the upcoming midterm elections, martin wrote. When many of us advocated for a shutdown in 2013 rather than providing funding to implement Obamacare, we knew that Republicans would bring the shutdown to an end if the Democrats were unwilling to negotiate. And we knew that we would have to make our case to the American people in elections, working to persuade more people to our side. By contrast, the Democrats who now refuse to vote to fund DHS or even allow the bill to come to the floor of the Senate so that it can be funded by the votes of others do not care about making their case against DHS funding electorally, martin said. They are not denying the agency funding to draw attention to a political issue. They are denying funding to the agency because they want to eliminate it. They want what they want and they want it right now and the consequences be damned. Alright, that is it for what the right is saying. Which brings us to what the left is saying. Many on the left argue Republicans caved on the DHS shutdown. Some suggest the shutdown's ending was historically unique. Others framed the lack of ICE and CBP funding as a win for Democrats. In New York magazine, Ed Kilgore said the shutdown finally ends. The surrender occurred as part of an extremely complicated series of developments in the House Republican Caucus this week that involved deals over FISA reauthorization, a farm bill and a budget resolution setting up a budget reconciliation measure to pre fund the immigration enforcement functions left out of the DHS bill to secure Democratic votes, kilgore wrote. With this assurance that unencumbered money for ICE and the Border Patrol is on its way, House Republicans apparently decided to stop taking hostage the rest of DHS, including TSA, FEMA, the U.S. coast Guard, the Secret Service and various anti terrorism programs. Members of both parties probably have mixed feelings about the DHS shutdown now that it's finally over. Democrats got the opportunity to talk for weeks about the abuses of ICE and CBP agents and to display to restive elements of the party base their ability to stay unified while fighting Trump, Kilgore said. Republicans got the opportunity to find a way to stuff ICE and CBP full of even more funding than they had before without having to consider or adopt any of the guardrails on their conduct that Democrats were demanding. And in the end, nobody in the House, in either party, had to go on the record supporting or opposing the measure that ended the shutdown. Thanks to the voice vote device in Ms. Now, James Downey argued House Republicans caved and changed the politics of government shutdowns. For the first time, the side precipitating a government shutdown neither had to cave in the end nor suffer a backlash for holding out. It seems that at least for now, the politics of shutdowns have fundamentally changed. It should be acknowledged at this point that unlike last year's shutdown shutdowns, this one was over one department and not the whole government, downey wrote. The shift in shutdown politics may be a function of two circumstances, but neither is changing soon. It certainly helps Democrats that congressional Republicans can barely keep their ship afloat. The relationship between Johnson and Senate Majority Leader John Thune is frosty at best, and while Republicans narrow House majority would challenge any speaker, Johnson's tenure has consisted largely of disorganization, punctuated by last minute scrambles to push through multi pass bills, Downey said. With midterms looming, Congress could punt the next round of funding bills until after votes are cast, as it did in 2024. But with even some Republicans expecting Democrats to flip the House and perhaps the Senate, a postponement could hurt the GOP's leverage. Regardless of the date for the next funding fight, though, Democrats should reprise and even deepen the resolve they showed in this one in the New Republic hafees, Rashid wrote. Republicans caved on the shutdown without funding ice. The bill passed by a voice vote in the House is a win for Democrats, as it still includes no money for ICE or Border Patrol and is now headed to President Trump's desk to be signed into law. House Speaker Mike Johnson reportedly decided to finally support the bill after a private meeting with his fellow Republican leaders earlier in the day, where they agreed that the situation couldn't continue, Rashid said. Previously, House Republicans had criticized their counterparts in the Senate for passing the measure with a voice vote, which doesn't record individual members votes, only to adopt the same method on Thursday. DHS Secretary Mark Wayne Mullen complained last week that the department was almost out of money and soon wouldn't be able to pay its employees. Now, assuming that Trump doesn't veto the bill, employees will still be paid, Rashid said. But the question of ice's future is still unanswered as Democrats want the agency reformed at minimum, with some calling for its abolition, and Republicans seem to be fine with the violence it visits on American cities. For now at least, ICE won't get any more money. Alright, let's head over to Will for his take.
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Thanks, John. All right, here's my take. So this is the way the shutdown ends. Not with a bang, but a whimper. Maybe it's just me, but I expected a record shattering shutdown of a purportedly critical federal department, no less, to feel like it meant something. Instead, very little seems to have changed, except maybe that our government dysfunction has deepened. DHS is responsible for ensuring homeland security, and while 76 days with a partially operational department likely weakened our security apparatus in many invisible ways, the department's partial shutdown didn't upend the federal government. Instead, it was more like a rash flaring up on occasion, like the airport wait lines, but mostly melting into the background as a kind of low grade annoyance. Now that the Department of Homeland Security's external problems are over, however, its internal problems are just beginning. During the shutdown, critical DHS agencies were forced to scale back important functions for Instance, the Federal Emergency Management Agency female restricted disaster related travel and the Coast Guard withstood energy shortages at duty stations as it racked up millions in unpaid utility bills. Then there's the staffing issues. Roughly 1,100 cybersecurity and infrastructure security agency workers have left since mid February, a massive reduction for an agency that was already struggling with headcount. And last week DHS shared that over 1,000 Transportation Security Administration officers organization also left the agency during the shutdown. While it's a relief that the remaining TSA workers will again have a reliable paycheck, replacing 1,000 employees lost in 2.5 months even at a 50,000 person agency will take time. Time that the TSA doesn't have. As the DHS stressed before the shutdown ended last week, quote ahead of the FIFA World cup and summer travel, this employee loss has significantly decreased TSA's ability to meet passenger demand and left critical gaps in staffing, end quote. The issues at cisa again, that's the cybersecurity and infrastructure security agency are similar. The agency's operations were already floundering pre shutdown due to a lack of a Senate confirmed agency head. Now with elevated cybersecurity threats to the US amid the Iran war, the agency tasked with cybersecurity and infrastructure protection across all levels of government is operating with a skeleton crew. In April, Acting Director Nick Anderson testified that CISA's capacity to counter cyber threats was, quote, more limited than I would like, end quote, saying that many of its core functions were simply not possible or legally allowed during the period of a shutdown. As with the tsa, those challenges won't be resolved overnight simply by the shutdown ending. It's difficult to assess the full scope of these less tangible costs, but we know from past shutdowns that they can be pervasive. A study of the 2018-19 government shutdown found it correlated with a 48% increase in quit rates among federal workers, with more experienced workers also being most likely to depart. Another report on the 2013 shutdown found employees exposed to furloughs were 31% more likely to leave their jobs within one year. Now I know the Trump administration and others might see a long term headcount reduction as a positive, but I'm not so sure. For one, these agencies all strike me as fairly critical. I don't think anyone, Trump included, is arguing that a hollowed out TSA would be a good thing. For one, these agencies within DHS all strike me as critical, and I don't think Most people, Trump included, are arguing that a hollowed out TSA would be a good thing. And while the president has railed against CISA for undermining his claim that the 2020 election was fraudulent, the rest of us don't have to accept that framing. We're fighting a war against a country known for perpetrating cyberattacks, and tech companies are currently sounding the alarms about powerful AI models that can be leveraged for cyber warfare. Amid all of that, I want a cybersecurity agency that's beefing up its staffing, not hemorrhaging it. I'm also worried about how this shutdown contributed to an observable erosion of constitutional norms. When we covered the shutdown at the end of March, I wrote that President Trump's memorandum to reshuffle federal funds to pay TSA workers was, quote, a significant expansion of Trump's claimed power to use federal funds for purposes that Congress hasn't approved, end quote. A kind of quiet pilfering of the legislative branch's power of the purse. Well, Trump's order was indeed executed without resistance from Republican leaders. And yes, TSA agents got paid and the long airport lines mostly dissipated. But what's to stop the president, or a future one, from deploying the same tactic to resolve the next inconvenient budget fight? The coming reconciliation battle also looms large. Remember, the recently signed funding package doesn't fund ICE or Border Patrol, but Republicans are moving ahead with a plan to pass $72 billion in new funds for immigration enforcement through reconciliation, which they can pass with a simple majority in the Senate. This was the same tool that Congress used to pass the One Big Beautiful Bill act last year, which allowed immigration agencies to operate unaffected during this most recent DHS shutdown. Of course, Republicans can't just waive reconciliation like a magic wand. To do this, key roadblocks do remain. They'll have to survive the Byrd rule, which bars provisions that do not primarily affect federal spending or revenue, as well as other rulings from senate parliamentarian Elizabeth McDonough, who previously blocked Democrats from putting immigration related measures in their 2021 reconciliation bill. And of course, swing vote Republican senators like Lisa Murkowski from Alaska and Susan Collins from Maine are not a guaranteed yes on this package. But if Republicans can pass CBP and ICE funding through reconciliation, any leverage to reform these agencies will be effectively killed for years to come. While this is less constitutionally alarming than Trump's memorandum, this new norm still undermines the traditional appropriations process, which provided an annual check on agency policies. That's something important, and I think it's a huge loss, too. I'm left not only distressed, but perplexed. Democrats bet that ice's sagging popularity gave them leverage to demand sweeping reforms, but now it looks like they're going to get nothing. Republicans may not have come to the negotiating table in good faith, but at least for a brief period during the shutdown, the White House floated moderate reforms like body cameras for agents and identification requirements. Now, perhaps Democrats are content to settle for whatever electoral boost that, appearing to fight on, DHS reform will offer. But now they're staring down the distinct possibility that they'll get zero reforms and ICE will be funded for years to come. I can't help but shake my head when I see Democratic leaders framing last week's funding package as the GOP quote caving. Remind me, what exactly did Republicans lose here? Now Republicans, meanwhile, are teed up to achieve their short term goal of passing advance funding for immigration enforcement. But at what long term cost? I'm reminded of the gerrymandering fight playing out right now across the country, a race to the bottom to accomplish short term political goals to the detriment of functioning Democratic governance. Democrats are guilty of abusing reconciliation, too. The Inflation Reduction act is just one recent example, and I worry that this saga will only embolden both sides. We may be entering the age of unaccountable, preemptively funded agencies carrying out a president's agenda without fear of oversight. So maybe it's that the DHS shutdown isn't ending with a whimper, but more of a subtle crack, a tap of a hammer to a fragile foundation. We may not feel the effects immediately or even in the weeks and months ahead, but the foundation is weaker nonetheless, and there's no telling how many more blows it can sustain.
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All right, that is it for my take. Now let's jump into today's reader question. This question is from Ben in Norfolk, Virginia, and he asks in your Sunday edition this week you wrote, quote, on Thursday, the Senate voted unanimously to pass a ban on senators trading on prediction markets such as Calcium Polymarket amid rising concern over insider trading, end quote. What are the penalties if a senator ignores the band? Does the ban cover family members and business associates? Is there a similar ban in the House, the executive branch, and the judicial branch? Here's our response. Last week, the US Senate unanimously passed a rule preventing senators, officers and staff from betting on prediction markets, effective immediately. The ban is not law, but rather an Amendment to Rule 37 of the Standing Rules of the Senate, and it applies only to senators and their staff, not their family, business associates or members of the House of Representatives. Although the text of the amendment is not yet publicly available, the rule it's amending prohibits senators and their staff from profiting off of the office in any way that conflicts with their duties. So adding text to apply to prediction markets is straightforward to imagine. The Standing Rules of the Senate are enforced by the Senate Select Committee on Ethics, a bipartisan commission that hears and investigates reports of violations of this code. Repercussions for violations can range from reprimand to censure to suspension from office up to expulsion. Currently, the House's Code of Ethics does not have any regulations preventing its members from placing bets on prediction markets. At the federal level, the judicial branch does not have a similar ban either, nor does the executive branch, although the White House has issued a formal warning to its staff against placing trades or bets using private information. At the state level, New York, California, Illinois, and Maryland have all included similar ethics provisions in their official codes of conduct. All right, that is it for today's reader question. I'll pass it back over to John to take us through the rest of the newsletter. We'll talk to you tomorrow. Have a great day.
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Thanks, Will. Here's a new segment called this Day in History. After several decades of instability, the Mexican government announced in 1861 that it would suspend all payments to its European creditors for two years. Spain and the United Kingdom would cut deals with Mexico, but French Emperor Napoleon III had designs on taking Mexico by force. Napoleon III wanted to establish a colony to the south of the United States, then embroiled in civil war, and used that position to trade with the Confederacy for cotton, a resource made scarce in Europe by the Union's blockade. In 1862, well trained French troops marched from Veracruz to take the capital of Mexico City. However, they were dealt a startling defeat by a mix of volunteers and conscripts under the command of General Ignacio Zaragoza outside Pueblo on May 5. Although France would eventually go on to control much of Mexico in 1863 through 1867, the surprise victory delayed France's advance, arguably giving Union forces time to establish control in the American Civil War. The upset was heralded as a moment of national pride in Mexico and May 5th. Cinco de Mayo would eventually become a celebration of Mexican heritage internationally, especially among Mexican Americans. By 1863, Mexican Americans in California were already commemorating the date, treating it as a political and cultural moment tied to resistance and democracy. Sela Moto Casper, the executive director of Latinos in Heritage Conservation, said, you'll have to forgive me in advance. I'm going to try my best with the Polish pronunciations here. But here is your have a nice day story Polish YouTuber Piotr Hanke has built an online following for rapping under the name Watvalgang. Now he has a different claim to fame, setting the marathon live streaming record for fundraising, netting $76 million for children battling cancer. In a nine day session from his Warsaw apartment, Hanka brought on celebrity guests including Coldplay's Chris Martin and tennis star Iga Witek, drawing 1.5 million viewers to the finale. All told, Hanka netted over 276 million Polish Zwote in donations to the Cancer Fighters Foundation, a Polish organization supporting children with cancer. This simply isn't about us. It's about children and everyone who has no choice but to fight this injustice on has said let's change the way we think about cancer forever. It's not a death sentence. We will overcome it and fight it. People has this story and there's a link in today's episode description alright everybody, that is it for today's episode. As always, if you'd like to support our work, Please go to retangle.com where you can sign up for a newsletter membership, podcast membership or a bundled membership that gets you a discount on both. We'll be right back here tomorrow. For Isaac and the rest of the crew, this is John Law signing off. Have a great day y'.
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