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From Executive producer Isaac Saul, this is Tangle.
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Isaac Saul
Good morning, good afternoon, and good evening and welcome to the Tangle Podcast, a place where you get news from across the political spectrum, some independent thinking, and a little bit of my take. I'm your host Isaac Saul, and on today's episode we're going to be talking about Emile Bove and his confirmation to be a lifetime judge on the 3rd Circuit Court of Appeals. We're going to break down what happened during his nomination process, some of the things we learned about him, share some views from the left and the right, and then of course, my take before we do jump in though I want to give you a quick heads up about what's coming tomorrow. In 2023, news organizations started blasting headlines warning that the Great Salt Lake was on the verge of disappearing and could release greenhouse gases and toxic dust into the atmosphere. Then in the next few years, the alarms receded. Tomorrow, our senior editor Will Kaback is asking and answering the question, whatever happened to the Great Salt Lake's disappearance? After speaking to Utah officials, lake experts and the two leads on the study that kicked off the clamor, Will has some interesting and nuanced answers to the question. Reminder that that edition will be a members only podcast and if you want to become a member, you can go to readtangle.com membership to unlock ad free podcasts and and get members only content like that. All right, with that out of the way, I'm going to hand it over to John for today's main story and I'll be back for my take.
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John Law
Thanks, Isaac and welcome everybody. Here are your quick hits for today. First up, the Federal Reserve's Open Market Committee voted 9 to 2 to keep interest rates unchanged between 4.25% and 4.5%, citing low unemployment and elevated inflation. The vote came amid pressure from President Donald Trump to lower interest rates. Number two, with President Trump's August 1st tariff deadline approaching, South Korea and the United States announced a trade deal to lower tariffs on Korean imports from 25% to 15% and for South Korea to invest $350 billion in the United States. Separately, President Trump announced a 90 day extension on the tariff deadline with Mexico. Number three, President Trump cited Canada's decision to recognize Palestinian statehood as an obstacle to a trade deal and that the US is set to impose a 35% tariff on Canadian imports by the August 1 deadline. Separately, the US has imposed a 50% tariff on most Brazilian goods and President Trump has announced sanctions on Brazil for prosecuting former President Jair Bolsonaro for allegedly plotting a coup. Four, the Senate rejected an effort led by Senator Bernie Sanders on Wednesday to block U.S. arms sales to Israel. And number five, former Vice President Kamala Harris announced she will not be running for governor of California.
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Isaac Saul
Jumping to this now, the Senate has.
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John Law
Confirmed former Trump lawyer Emile Beauvais as a US Appeals court judge.
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Isaac Saul
This is crucial because he this is.
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John Law
Part of a lifetime appointment to the Third Circuit Court. He will hear cases from Delaware, New Jersey and Pennsylvania. Now Bovet was one of Trump's most controversial judicial picks. Two Republicans actually joined Democrats in voting against him on Tuesday. The Senate voted 50 to 49 to confirm Emile Beauvais to a lifetime judgeship on the Third Circuit Court of Appeals. Senators Susan Collins and Lisa Murkowski joined all Democrats in opposing Bovet's nomination. Senator Bill Haggerty, the Republican from Tennessee, did not vote. The confirmation follows a protracted fight over Bovet's nomination, which included whistleblower reports that Bovet acted unethically and abused his power in previous roles. For context, Bovet was President Donald Trump's personal attorney, representing him during his recent criminal and civil trials. In November 2024, then President elect Trump named Bovet principal associate deputy attorney general, the third highest position at the Department of justice. On January 20, Bovet was appointed acting deputy attorney general, while Trump's pick for Deputy Attorney General, Todd Blanch, also his former personal attorney, went through his confirmation process. On May 28, President Donald Trump announced Bovet's nomination to be a federal appeals judge. During the confirmation process, the Senate considered multiple allegations of misconduct from Bovet's time at the doj. Most notably, Erez Riveni, the former acting deputy director of the Office of Immigration Litigation, submitted a letter to lawmakers that claimed Bovet told Justice Department officials that they may need to defy court orders blocking the Trump administration's deportation of non citizens to El Salvador under the Alien Enemies Act. Rouvini then said he was fired for failure to comply with this directive. The Trump administration suspended him in April after he told a judge that he did not know what authority the US Used to justify its deportation of Kilmar Abrego Garcia to El Salvador Salvador. A second whistleblower subsequently shared information to corroborate Rouveni's claims. Separately, a group of over 900 former DOJ employees signed a letter opposing Bovet's confirmation, saying Bovet led the department's deviations from constitutional principles and institutional guardrails. Separately, in February, Bovet directed the Southern District of New York to dismiss without prejudice all charges in its corruption case against New York Mayor Eric Adams, a decision that prompted outcry over the appearance of an improper quid pro quo agreement between the Trump administration and Adams. Several federal prosecutors resigned in protest of the directive, and a whistleblower claimed that Bovet had threatened to punish lawyers who did not go along with the dismissal. Bovet told senators that the decision to drop the charges against Adams was well within the scope of prosecutorial discretion. On July 17, Democrats on the Senate Judiciary Committee walked out of a hearing on Bovet's nomination after committee Chairman Chuck Grassley, the Republican from Iowa, refused requests to allow further debate on the whistleblower claims. Grassley said his staff's review of the issue could not verify that Bovet urged staff to defy the courts, adding, even if you accept most of the claims as true, there's no scandal. Government lawyers aggressively litigating and interpreting court orders isn't misconduct, it's what lawyers do. Democrats were unified in opposition to Bovet's nomination after the vote. Senator Cory Booker, the Democrat from New Jersey, said Bovet's confirmation is a blow to the guiding principles of judicial independence and impartiality. Separately, Senator Murkowski said the whistleblower claims against Bovet convinced her to break party lines and vote against confirming Bovet. Today we'll share reactions to Bovet's confirmation from the right and the left, and then Isaac's take.
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Isaac Saul
We'Ll be right back after this quick break.
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Isaac Saul
No, no, no, no.
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Isaac Saul
Oh.
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So yeah, they're finding out the breed of the puppy they're rescuing so they.
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John Law
Could just be spending all their money on like pet insurance.
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John Law
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Get a quote for any breed@lemonade.com pet all right, first up, let's start with what the right is saying. The right is mixed on Bovet's confirmation, but Many praised his record and think he will be a quality judge. Some express reservations about his alleged conduct at the doj. Others say Bovet's resume justifies his confirmation. In Fox News, Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche said Bovet belongs on the bench, unfortunately, but unsurprisingly, the media has recently amplified slanderous attacks on Emil's character based on a foundation of selective leaks, misleading reports and falsehoods, blanche wrote. First, as to the termination of the leaker, it was Attorney General Pam Bondi and I who decided to terminate his employment. It was not Amil's decision, and contrary to media spin, the employee was terminated for failing to defend his client, the United States of America in open court. He was not dismissed for admitting an error in court. Moreover, Amiel has never encouraged lawyers or anyone else to act in defiance of a court order. There was no order to violate at the time of the alleged statements. No injunctive relief had been granted, oral or written. No directive was issued to reverse any executive action. These facts are not in dispute, not even by the leaker, blanche said. Emile has the backbone for hard cases, the restraint to wield judicial authority judiciously and the intellect to master complexity. He will decide cases fairly. He will apply the law as written. He will not bend to political pressure. And that is exactly the kind of judge our country needs. The Wall Street Journal editorial board argued the quality of the president's appellate nominees will influence whether judges and justices decide to retire. The concerns about Mr. Bovet's nomination aren't frivolous. He was at the center of the justice department turbulence after Mr. Trump invoked the 1798 Alien Enemies act to deport illegal aliens without due process. At a March 14 hearing discussing the possibility that a judge could block those removals, Bovet stated that DOJ would need to consider telling the courts FU and ignore any such court order. That's according to a whistleblower letter by a former government lawyer, the board said. Testifying to the Senate, Mr. Bovet didn't exactly deny uttering such a thing. Mr. Bovet also ordered an end to the federal corruption case against New York Mayor Eric Adams. This all creates an impression of Mr. Bovet as a lawyer comfortable pursuing policy outcomes by pushing legal boundaries. A judge's job is different. Maybe Republicans believe that Mr. Bovet knows the difference. He testified that he interpreted laws by turning to their text, as good judges should, the board said. Yet such nominations have a potential cost for Mr. Trump in that the Supreme Court justices and lower court judges will ponder the quality of the president's choices when deciding whether to retire or take senior status in the Federalist, beth Brehe wrote. Bove will be an effective pro liberty judge. They won't say it, but even Democrats must know Bovet is a solid pick. Many of former President Joe Auto Penn Biden's judicial picks were quite fresh out of law school with little courtroom experience and had obvious activist connections. Yet Democrats eagerly confirmed Biden's picks. This is how you know this current posturing is only politics, billhay said. Bove is currently the principal associate Deputy attorney general. Much of Bovet's career has been with the Department of Justice and handling cases involving violent crime, terrorism and drug cartels. In 2019, Bovet earned the Director's Award for Superior Performance by a Litigative Team from the Department of Justice. He graduated in the top 5% of his class at Georgetown University Law center in 2008, Ralhe wrote. Perhaps what Democrats fear most is that Bovet will bring some much needed balance to the judiciary. Alright, that is it for what the right is saying. Which brings us to what the left is saying. The left opposes Bovet's confirmation, saying his loyalty to Trump undermines judicial independence. Some say Republicans may come to regret putting Bovet on the bench. Others criticize Democrats for missing an opportunity to fill the seat in 2024. In Fox News, Ryan Croswell questioned Bovet's fitness for the federal bench. I was in the room when he made statements that my colleagues and I understood as threats meant to pressure us into signing a motion to dismiss the federal criminal case against New York City mayor Eric Adams. Mr. Bovet has since denied making any such statements in testimony before the Senate Judiciary Committee. But those denials do not reflect what actually took place, croswell wrote. By the time of that meeting, it's undisputed that he had already accepted the forced resignation of the U.S. attorney in New York, put line prosecutors from that office on administrative leave for not signing the motion, and forced out the entirety of the Public Integrity Section's management to resign when it refused to carry out his order. Bovet's nomination marks a troubling precedent, confirming a nominee who, in my view, gave testimony that was so obviously misleading to the committee and the American public. That's what makes this so profoundly disturbing, croswell said. Previous contested judicial confirmation hearings have involved accusations where one nomination's credibility was pitted against that of an accuser or judicial credential credentials were questioned, but never before has a nominee testified in such a demonstrably brazen manner. With a wink and a nod to Republican committee members. In Vox, Ian Millhiser made the conservative case against Trump's worst judicial nominee. Today, presidents typically create a bench of potential Supreme Court nominees by appointing ideologically reliable lawyers to federal appeals courts. These lawyers are selected more because of their loyalty to their political party's agenda than to any particular reason, millhiser wrote in a letter opposing Bovet's nomination. Greg Nunziata, who served as Senate Republican's chief nominations counsel during the confirmations of Chief Justice John Roberts and Justice Samuel Alito, writes that confirming Bovet would betray the decades long project of the conservative legal movement by inviting more nominations of presidential loyalists in place of committed conservative lawyers. The most recent example of a president attempting to appoint a personal loyalist to the supreme court occurred in 2005, when President George W. Bush nominated his own White House lawyer, Harriet Myers. But the Myers nomination crashed and burned in just a few weeks, largely because conservatives feared that she had a thin record on key issues like abortion, Millhiser said. If anything, Bovet's record on many of these issues is even thinner than Meyers. So by backing nominees like Bovet, Republicans risk filling the bench with the same kind of unreliable allies that they'd fought to stop in 2005. In balls and strikes, Jay Willis argued the cowardice of Senate Democrats made Emile Bovet's confirmation possible. Bovet was opposed by several prominent conservative legal activists, more than 80 former judges and more than 900 former Department of Justice attorneys who in a letter to the Senate Judiciary Committee called Bovet's confirmation intolerable to anyone committed to maintaining our ordered system of justice, willis wrote. Last year, Democrats could have used their Senate majority to confirm someone very different to fill the seat, Adil Manji. But in the months that followed as Republicans pushed an unhinged narrative that Manji, who would have been the first ever Muslim federal appeals court judge, was a cop hating terrorist sympathizer. A handful of Democratic senators began to waver. The nomination then hung in procedural limbo for nearly a year until Trump's victory in the 2024 election, which effectively killed Manji's chance at confirmation. As a result, the judgeship that could have been a dio Manji's is now occupied by Bove, Willis said. It is true that Senate Democrats held razor thin majorities during the Biden administration. But whipping the votes for a nominee as milquetoast as Manji, a big law partner who practiced at the same New York City firm for nearly 25 years, should not have been especially difficult. Instead, a Critical mass of Democrats caved to bad faith attacks rooted in howling, obvious bigotry. Alright, let's head over to Isaac for his take.
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Isaac Saul
All right, that is it for what the left and the right are saying. Which brings us to my take. So if you haven't already, I actually encourage you to read two pieces from the Fox News opinion section that we cited today. One under what the left is saying and one under what the right is saying, and just compare them to one another. I mean, you can listen to John's readings of them maybe and judge them for yourself. Personally, I think the full pieces are actually worth checking out if you get the time. The first piece comes from Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche, defending Bovet's character. And the second comes from Ryan Croswell, a former federal prosecutor accusing Bovet of wrongdoing. Crosswell claims to have witnessed some of Bovet's allegedly unethical behavior, but he's also running to be a Democratic member of Congress in Pennsylvania, so he has some obvious partisan lean. Blanche is claiming that the allegations against Bove are concocted by the media, but he's a lifelong Republican and currently serving in President Trump's, so he has some obvious partisan lean, too. When I read these two pieces side by side, I find Croswell's concerns far more compelling than Blanche's denials. Croswell is making specific and corroborated allegations that Bovet tried to force a group of prosecutors into an agreement to let Mayor Eric Adams off the public reporting. And the resignations of those prosecutors support his telling of events. And anyone looking at what happened between Trump and Adams honestly should be able to see an obvious quid pro quo. The word of a single person like Croswell is not enough to define someone's character. But my concerns about Bovet do not rely on his judgment alone. Perez Ruvaney, a DOJ whistleblower who spoke out about what he experienced while working for Bovet, has given consistent and again, corroborated testimony in public and private about Bovet's disregard for the law. In fact, Rouvaney sat for a lengthy interview with the New York Times explaining precisely what happened, why he was fired by the doj, and why he filed a whistleblower complaint. Unlike Croswell, Rouvainy is not a partisan, and if he is, he's conservative. You can listen to his actual interview if you doubt that he worked in the Justice Department's Office of immigration litigation from 2010 under Obama, Trump, Biden, and Trump again until he was fired. Earlier this year. That means he advocated for the administration's immigration agenda for the entirety of Trump's first term and again at the beginning of this term. For instance, he was one of the lawyers who defended Trump's so called Muslim ban in 2017, working in what he described as 100 hour weeks for the first months of Trump's term, trying to keep his order in place. He actually received commendations from the DOJ for his work in that case and for challenging sanctuary cities. Rouvainy leveled three specific allegations against Beauvais and the Trump administration. First, he explains that when Bovet told DOJ lawyers that they might have to tell the courts, quote, fuck you, Ruvane was assured by his supervisor that they would follow any court orders, temporarily assuaging his fears. But the next time he was in court, he said he heard his colleagues lie to Judge Boasberg about whether planes carrying arrested non citizens were taking off for El Salvador. Second, Rouveni claimed that the administration was withholding information from ICE officers so they could unknowingly break the law. Essentially, Reuveni realized that the DOJ was not issuing guidance to its employees to comply with a court order to stop removing non citizens to countries they weren't from. But the DOJ was intentionally withholding this information from ice, allowing agents to conduct illegal deportations with plausible deniability. And third, Revenue said that when he was involved in the Abrego Garcia case, Bove was upset that revenue one, admitted the US made a mistake in deporting him and two, wouldn't accuse Abrego Garcia of being an MS.13 gang member or terrorist in court, an accusation Ruvene said they didn't have the evidence to make. Ruvene put it like this. This to me was the third key example of the fu, because we are now at a point where we've admitted we did something wrong the government, but instead of fixing it, we're just making stuff up about this person signing a brief under penalty of perjury that we are submitting to the court. And so when that draft brief comes around, that's the line that's us lying to a court and that's me signing my name to that lie, end quote. Revenue refused to sign his name on the file. He was suspended and eventually fired. This is what happened at the DOJ under Beauvais leadership. Revenue is a very credible source. He's a longtime DOJ lawyer recognized by previous Trump administrations for his stellar work defending their immigration agenda. He has supported his claims with text messages and memorandums And a second whistleblower corroborated the allegations. This is not character assassination and it can't be dismissed as simply leaks. These are longtime government employees putting their names on very direct public claims of misconduct. Putting aside all the controversy, the obvious question about Bovet's nomination is whether he is qualified for a lifetime judgeship. Here the answer is not as straightforward as it should be. Bove has been a federal prosecutor for nearly a decade. He rose to senior DOJ leadership, went to a top law school, had prestigious clerkships. These qualifications paint the picture that the Senate typically looks for for a more than capable legal thinker. Unfortunately, the picture is incomplete. The American Bar association said it could not evaluate Bove because the Justice Department wouldn't release his background files, a major precedent breaking red flag. That, paired with the letter signed by more than 75 former judges and over 900 former DOJ attorneys urging the Senate to reject him, is enough to press pause. And yes, some of those signatories are stalwarts of the conservative legal movement. Oh, and one more thing. Bovet served as the current president's personal attorney and Blanche, the deputy attorney general defending him publicly, was the one who hired Bovet to his private firm to help defend Trump. This is a cesspool of cronyism, questionable qualifications and allegations of immoral behavior throughout Trump's second term. I think Tangle has done a pretty good job of two things. One, not hyperventilating over concocted controversies, and two, calling out the most worrisome nominations Trump has made to his Cabinet. The actions of many of those nominees have proven us right, and I feel confident about my concerns here, too. Bove is not the kind of person who should be serving a lifetime appointment as a federal judge. Republicans once again did not have the integrity to stand up to the President or to hold up the kinds of standards they themselves preach. And the entire country is worse off for it. We'll be right back after this quick break.
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John Law
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Isaac Saul
All right, that is it for my take. Which brings us to your questions answered. This one is from an anonymous reader in Portland, Oregon who said, what is the practical implication of a country, quote unquote, recognizing the a Palestinian state? Okay, great question. This is a really good question, and it may not surprise you to hear this answer from me, but it's complicated the decision to recognize the sovereignty of an entity can come in a few different forms. Nations can give de facto recognition of another country or ruling entity, meaning they simply acknowledge that a particular group has governing power without implying that their authority is legitimate. This recognition allows states to practically engage in dialogue, diplomacy, and trade, but it does not confer a kind of diplomatic recognition. As examples, the United nations recognizes the Taliban as the de facto ruling authority in Afghanistan, and Hamas recognizes Israel as a de facto authority, creating expectations of proper governance. In contrast, the United States does not recognize Hamas's authority, which is why the government disperses aid to Gaza without the group's cooperation. Right now, countries like France, Canada, and Australia are recognizing Palestine as a legitimate and sovereign state. This form of recognition is called de jure, meaning in law, and allows for the establishment of embassies and to sign international compacts and treaties. However, these countries are recognizing the entity of Palestine and not the rule of Hamas, which Canada, Australia, and the European Union lists as terrorist organizations. As an individual action, one state's recognition of another may not do much other than impact diplomatic relationships. However, if enough states grant de jure recognition to another, that state could have standing to say, join international organizations like the World Health Organization or the United Nations. Recognition of Palestine statehood in both Gaza and the west bank could be significant. Right now, only the Palestinian Authority, which governs the west bank, is an admitted member of the Arab League. However, the recent recognitions are creating momentum behind a movement from the Arab League to admit Palestine to the un, demand Israel's withdrawal from Gaza and the west bank, and recognize the Palestinian Authority as the ruling power in both enclaves. In effect, these recognitions are mounting diplomatic pressure for the removal of both Israel and Hamas from Gaza as one entity under one government. However, that's not really up to other states. Palestine has to apply for admittance to the UN and other international organizations itself, which would require Hamas's consent to abdicate its power in Gaza. To put a fine point on it, the international pressure is very unlikely to coerce Hamas out of Gaza, get the Palestinian Authority to govern both territories, or force Israel out of either. All right, that is it for your questions answered. I'm going to send it back to John for the rest of the pod and I'll see you guys tomorrow. Have a good one.
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John Law
Thanks, Isaac. Here's your under the Radar story for today folks. For the first time ever, India has passed China as the top smartphone supplier to the United States. The share of US smartphone imports from India reached 44% in Q2 2025, more than triple the country's 13% share in Q2 2024. Over the same period, the proportion of smartphones imported into the US from China decreased by over 50%. The shift began after the US imposed a 145% tariff rate on Chinese imports in April, prompting Apple to begin moving US iPhone production out of the country and into India. Apple CEO Tim Cook stated that China, who currently produces about 90% of all iPhones, would still be the main hub for product sales outside the U.S. sherwood has this story and there's a link in today's episode Description alright, next up is our numbers section. The number of days between Emile Bovet's official nomination and confirmation for United States Circuit Judge for the 3rd Circuit is 43. 80 former federal and state judges signed a letter opposing Bovet's nomination. Bovet served as Assistant U.S. attorney for the Southern District of New York for nine years, from 2012 to 2021. Bovet, alongside Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche, represented President Donald Trump in two federal criminal cases. Of 13 nominations, four judges have been confirmed for federal judgeships in President Trump's second term. Four judges have been rated as well qualified by the American Bar Association. That's the designation the organization gave to Bovet next to a note that read insufficient information. 100% of the federal judges that were appointed by the Biden administration were rated qualified or well qualified by the ABA, and 96% of federal judges appointed by the first Trump administration were rated qualified or well qualified by the aba. And last but not least, our have a nice day story. People suffering from type 1 diabetes must closely monitor glucose levels, and if they develop low blood sugar, they can solve the issue by eating carbohydrates. However, the condition can only be treated by an injection of glucagon when it becomes too severe, and some people, including children, have trouble detecting hypoglycemia and administering treatment. Now, scientists at MIT MIT have developed a new implantable device that can detect low blood sugar and deliver emergency glucagon automatically. The researchers have also successfully tested the device with epinephrine, meaning that it could be used to treat severe allergic reactions. They hope to begin clinical trials within the next three years. MIT News has this story and there's a link in today's episode description. Alright everybody, that is it for today's episode. As always, if you'd like to support our work, Please go to readtangle.com where you can sign up for a newsletter membership, podcast membership, or a bundled membership that gets you a discount on both. In tomorrow's Friday edition, Senior Editor Will K. Beck will be answering the question, whatever happened to the Great Salt Lake's disappearance? As Isaac mentioned at the top, this newsletter and podcast will be available for members only. So if you haven't signed up for a membership, now's a great time to do so. Issac, Ari and Camille will be here for the Sunday podcast and I will return on Monday. For Isaac and the rest of the crew, this is John Law signing off. Have an absolutely fantastic weekend, y'. All. Peace.
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Isaac Saul
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