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Paige Desorbo
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Hannah Berner
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Paige Desorbo
And the bras? Soft, supportive and actually breathable.
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Hannah Berner
Yes. Lord knows the girls need to breathe. Also, I need my PJs to breathe and be buttery, soft and stretchy enough for my dramatic tossing and turning at night. That's why I live in my Tommy John pajamas.
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Paige Desorbo
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Hannah Berner
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John Lowell
From executive producer Isaac Saul.
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Isaac Saul
This is Tangle. Good morning, good afternoon and good evening and welcome to the Tangle podcast, a place we get views from across the political spectrum, some independent thinking, and a little bit of my take. I'm your host, Isaac Saul. Today is Monday, October 6th, and we're going to be talking about the federal crackdown happening in Chicago and Portland. Lots of stuff going on. I've been gone for the last week, as you probably noticed. So first of all, just a big thank you to the team for stepping up. I was in Italy for a very good friend's wedding that I turned into a rare but much needed vacation. Got to spend some time with my wife and my son and my family and a bunch of my closest friends all in Florence, which was beautiful, and Italy, which is a fantastic country. Great food, good people, awesome time. And now I'm back in the real world and I'm excited to be here. I'm pumped to be back on the mic, back in the arena. I'm feeling refreshed, ready to go, and we've got a lot of big news to cover this week. Before we get into today's main topic though, I want to give you a quick reminder that on Friday the team published a two part series on the lesser known Trump appointees that are shaping U.S. policy. This was an awesome piece. I read it. I didn't have any part in it, in editing it or anything, so I got to read it just as a consumer and then listen to parts of the podcast and and it was fantastic. It was so helpful as a breakdown of what's happening behind the scenes and what some of the major news stories are missing about the way US Policy is changing and the people who are shaping it. And it's worth checking out. So you can find that on our website or scroll back in the podcast feed and go listen to that episode, which is very much worth your time. All right, with that, I'm gonna send it over to John for today's main story and I'll be back for my.
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John Lowell
Thanks, Isaac, and welcome everybody. Hope y' all had a wonderful weekend. I myself got to spend some time with my wife and my daughter and some friends as well, and also got to spend Sunday alternating back and forth between Mickey Mouse clubhouse and football. So it was all in all a really great weekend. I wanted to highlight a couple of answers that some people wrote in for my question about how you manage your anger. Thomas wrote in to say that the book Unoffendable by Brant Hanson really changed how he manages his moments of anger. It's helped in his personal relationships and in managing difficult conversations. William also wrote in and said that he channels that anger into lifting heavy weights and listening to emotionally resonant music. William, I'm right there with you. Lifting heavy weights in the gym is always a go to for me. And also love the Deftones. Have them on some workout playlists of mine too. Thanks y' all for writing in. Really appreciate the honest responses. And for this week, my question is, what are some of your deepest values and how do they affect or determine your relationships in your life? I hear people saying all the time like, ah, they don't believe in the same things I do, so I can't really be friends with them. And especially in politics, that seems to come up a lot. So I'm curious as to what your deepest values are, how they affect your relationships, and a bonus question of if you can make room for people who might have different values than you. Or you can write in to me@johnjonadtangle.com Looking forward to your thoughts and responses. It's been really encouraging and inspiring to read. And as always, let's bring the best of ourselves to everything that we do in the hopes that we can spread some positivity and joy to everyone around us. All right, with all that said, here are today's quick hits. First up, negotiators for Israel and Hamas traveled to Egypt to begin indirect negotiations over a plan proposed by President Donald Trump last Monday to end the war in Gaza. Hamas has said it agrees to some points of the plan, but has not accepted others, including the demand that it fully disarms. Number two, A slew of national and local Republican leaders, including President Trump, called on Jay Jones, the Democratic nominee for Virginia attorney general, to drop out of the race after text messages from 2022 surfaced showing Jones wishing violence on then Virginia House Speaker Republican Todd Gilbert and his family. Number three the Supreme Court paused a ruling by a federal judge that had blocked the Trump administration from removing protected status from thousands of Venezuelan nationals. Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson wrote a dissenting opinion calling the order yet another grave misuse of our emergency. Docket 4 Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth said that the US military struck a boat off the coast of Venezuela that was allegedly carrying illegal drugs, killing four people. And number five, the partial government shutdown continued into a sixth day. The Senate is scheduled to vote on Monday on Republican and Democrat led funding bills, but the measures are expected to fall short of the 60 votes needed to pass.
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Isaac Saul
Overnight clashes and arrests in front of Portland's ICE facility. And today, President Trump posting on social media that the National Guard is now in place and has been dedicated dedicated to restoring law and order.
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John Lowell
All this following months of occasional back.
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Isaac Saul
And forth skirmishes between protesters and federal.
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John Lowell
Agents in recent weeks, President Donald Trump deployed Illinois National Guard troops to Chicago and attempted to mobilize the National Guard to Portland, Oregon, leading to arrests and clashes with protesters in those cities. In Chicago, hundreds of federal officials carried out a large raid at an apartment building on Tuesday, leading to a reported 37 arrests of alleged unauthorized immigrants. In Portland, a federal judge temporarily blocked the Trump administration from deploying the Oregon National Guard. Then on Sunday, Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth called up 400 members of the Texas National Guard for deployments to Portland, Chicago and other cities to support federal agents and protect property. White House officials say the law enforcement activity in Illinois is necessary to maintain public safety in and around Chicago while also protecting immigration authorities from heightened threats. Tuesday's raid, a joint operation involving multiple federal agencies and utilizing Black Hawk helicopters, targeted a residential building allegedly frequented by members of the Trende Aragua gang. However, witnesses and residents said that nearly every building resident was detained, including children and U.S. citizens in some cases without clear explanations for their arrests. Also on Tuesday, President Trump suggested in a meeting with military leaders and Secretary Hegseth that cities like Chicago should be training grounds for our military, describing the unrest over immigration enforcement and federal troop deployments as a war from within. The comments drew strong rebukes from Chicago Mayor Democrat Brandon Johnson and Illinois Governor Democrat J.B. pritzker. Sending troops into our cities, thinking that that's some sort of proving ground for war or indeed that there's some sort of internal war going on in the United States is just, frankly, inane, pritzker said. Tensions between Immigration and Customs Enforcement officers and protesters and escalated on Saturday when federal agents were allegedly rammed and boxed in by 10 cars near an ICE facility outside Chicago. Officers fired shots at a woman in one of the cars, saying that she was armed with a semiautomatic weapon. No one was seriously hurt, but Department of Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem announced that additional personnel would be deployed to the area in response to the incident. Separately, on Saturday, federal Judge Karen Immergut, who was appointed by Trump in his first term, issued a temporary restraining order blocking the federal government from deploying deploying 200 Oregon National Guard troops to Portland. Judge Immergut found that the size and nature of the immigration protests in the city did not justify mobilizing the Guard, writing that President Trump's statements to the contrary were simply untethered to the facts. The order will remain in effect for 14 days unless extended. In response, the Trump administration filed a notice of appeal to the 9th U.S. circuit Court of Appeals. However, after the Trump administration mobilized members of the California National Guard to Oregon, Judge Emmerga convened another hearing and issued a broader ruling barring the government from sending any National Guard troops to Portland while the restraining order is in effect. Today, we'll share views from the right and the left about the federal activity in Chicago and Portland, and then Isaac's take.
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John Lowell
All right, first up, let's start with what the right is saying. The right mostly backs Trump's actions in Chicago and Portland, with many arguing that protests are out of control. Some say a dearth of local leadership requires federal intervention. Others suggest deploying troops won't fix the underlying problems fueling the protests. In the Daily Signal, Jarrett Stepman wrote Trump is right to clamp down on Portland's Jacobins. Federal Immigration and Customs Enforcement facilities have been besieged for months in the Oregon city, with little indication that local authorities will do anything to get control of the situation. It couldn't be clearer that Portland's leaders have little interest in getting the rioters under control outside of pressure from the Trump administration, Stetman said. The primary issue right now for Portland is not just an intractable problem with basic street crime, though that was a big one after the George Floyd riots when the city defunded the police. No, the problem is that Portland is returning to violence and chaos because organized agitators in their city, like Antifa and other similar groups want to stop federal immigration enforcement. They are throwing a continual violent tantrum because they aren't getting their way. Not only are the ICE facilities besieged on a regular basis, but many residents are fed up with having their lives disrupted while local officials officials do nothing, stepman wrote. Since Portland is clearly not willing to do its job to protect the lives of federal employees in their city, the Trump administration has a duty to step in and put the kibosh on Portland's Jacobins. NPJ Media Michael A. Lett said Trump is showing why order is needed in cities like Portland. Trump has done a great job in Washington, D.C. when it came to turning around their misfortunes because the leaders eventually worked with him to find that level of peace. But in Chicago and Portland things are not that easy and now I wonder just how long it will take for a resolution to be found, lutz wrote. A majority of the problem again comes down to leadership. For example, Illinois Governor J.B. pritzker has made it clear that he is not a fan of Trump, insisting that he is threatening to go to war with an American city when in fact the war is coming from within due to his own problematic leadership. Poor leadership is going to lead to the wrong kind of pushback and as a result the lack of any real progress within the state. And that's why Trump is doing what he can on his end in an effort to bring true law and order back to these fallen states, lett said. So here we are. Trump's trying to push for law and order within the states, and the combined efforts of these violent Antifa types and Democratic leaders are now creating a dangerous situation. In Reason, Catherine Mangou Ward argued deploying federal troops is not a sustainable solution to crime in American cities. An August Associated Press NORC poll found that 81% of respondents view crime as a major problem in America's large cities while 66% view it as a major problem nationwide, Mangou Ward said. But a military occupation of American cities is neither constitutionally sound nor fiscally viable legally and logistically. You can't solve deep social and policing problems with Humvees parked at intersections forever. These deployments tend to devolve into a high risk form of political theater, rewarding mayors and presidents who want to look tough while leaving communities no closer to a lasting solution and America one step closer to authoritarian rule. The idea of uniformed federal agents patrolling city neighborhoods as if they were appropriate for everyday law enforcement feels profoundly out of step with the spirit of America's founding values as we approach the semi quincentennial, Mango Ward said. The Constitution's architecture was designed to prevent just this kind of centralization where standing force functions not as a last resort but as a default mode. Letting soldiers or masked federal officers replace traditional policing undermines the boundary between citizen and subject. Alright, that is it for what the right is saying. Which brings us to what the left is saying. The left opposes the administration's actions in cities, saying Trump is grossly exaggerating the situation. Some call on protesters to resist Trump's attempts to antagonize them. Others say troop deployments will only increase the likelihood of violent disorder. In the New York Times, Nicholas Kristof wrote, Mr. President, may we interest you in a naked bike ride? The National Guard troops dispatched by President Trump to fight domestic terrorists in this war ravaged city of Portland, Oregon, will face an unexpected naked bicycle riders. Cycling in the buff is a Portland specialty, and one organization has announced a naked ride in response to the militarization of our city. Such is the war zone here, kristof said. National Guard troops could help Portland if they rented office space, but the way Trump dispatches troops to fight a war from within won't solve the city's problems and may inflame them. Because I've spent much of my career covering authoritarian governments, I'm particularly alarmed by Trump's attempt to create, in effect, his own Praetorian Guard available to punish critics or Democratic cities. That is standard autocratic behavior, and in extreme cases such as in Tiananmen Square in 1989, I've seen such troops used to massacre protesters, kristof wrote. I don't think this will happen here. But Trump has long had an interest in marshaling military forces to suppress opponents, the Oregonian editorial board said. Keep proving Trump wrong. Portlanders love a good social media throwdown, and President Donald Trump's characterizations of Portland as war ravaged invited the onslaught. With their lighthearted humor, Portlanders are displaying the quirk and creativity so deeply ingrained in the city's culture while showing just how unfounded Trump's claims are, the board wrote. Amid the uncertainty, Portlanders must pause and recognize how much is at stake as the country heads toward the midterm elections, when voters will decide whether America is on the right path. This is not just about protesting inhumane immigration enforcement or defending Oregon from federal overreach. Trump's military ploy to suppress one block of protesters is yet another page from his playbook of bulldozing rights and norms. While insisting such action is justified, Portland's response must help show the rest of the country how wrong he is, the board said. The mayor and City Council must reinforce Portland police's authority to step up their presence at protests and quickly intervene if any criminal behavior occurs. They must understand that protecting public safety is not the same as supporting immigration enforcement. In the Chicago Tribune, David White argued Chicago is right to resist Trump's tactics. President Donald Trump told generals this week that cities such as Chicago are under invasion from within and must be crushed with force, serving as a training ground for American troops. History and science warn when federal police use force to suppress dissent, larger and more violent protests follow, White wrote. Consider two philosophies of policing. Escalated force means aggressive tactics tear gas, rubber bullets, baton charges, mass arrests, militarized gear meant to break up crowds and crush dissent. Negotiated management, by contrast, treats protests as political expression protected by the First Amendment. Yet Chicago has periodically returned to the hard knuckles approach, often with more harm than good. The George Floyd protests in 2020 showed the same pattern. Nationwide, escalated force was followed by greater unrest, while negotiated management saw fewer confrontations, White said. The role of law enforcement is to serve and protect, not enable federal escalation. That means rejecting militarized policing and standing between Chicagoans and outside forces who would inflame unrest. Alright, let's head over to Isaac for his.
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Isaac Saul
All right, that is it for the left and the right are saying. Which brings us to my take. When President Trump deployed troops into the nation's capital to police crime, I said that it was clearly a trial run for other cities. Trump made no secret of it, and now that prediction has self evidently come true. As with the DC Deployment, I am vehemently opposed to the president's use of the National Guard in Chicago and Portland. He's now checking off three of the five boxes. I said I'd be watching to determine whether he was pursuing an authoritarian style of governance, a development that is deeply alarming as an American and makes our work at Tango incredibly difficult. And just as I said a few weeks ago, I set out these five parameters before Trump's second term ramped up. They were designed as a forward looking gut check, not as alarmist assumptions about what Trump would do in office. But fully describing why these deployments concern me requires acknowledging the problems that have compelled so many people to support them. So first, I want to make the best argument I've heard for Trump's actions, starting with Chicago. Over 10 million unauthorized migrants entered the country under Biden, while Democratic leaders told us the border was secure and many of those migrants went to Chicago. Trump is sending ICE to Chicago, which under decades of Democratic leadership has been home to some of the country's most dangerous neighborhoods, to make good on his deportation pledges that won him the election. It makes sense to want federal troops there to protect ICE agents because Chicago's leadership won't support the immigration enforcement effort, its police don't have a handle on the city's most dangerous neighborhoods, and we've seen what appear to be organized attacks on ICE agents. The argument is similar in Portland. The city's federal facilities, including ICE detention centers, have been the targets of protests and demonstrations. In some cases, these demonstrations have been violent or dangerous. Portland police's inability to get a handle on the situation has forced Trump to deploy federal troops to protect federal law enforcement and federal buildings. Basically, he wouldn't be doing this if leaders in Chicago and Portland had control of their cities. An easy and immediate counter argument is that these deployments are illegal and will be halted by the courts. I think that is actually a likely outcome, though. The courts move slowly and Trump moves fast, and it's impossible to know how many appeals and refilings the cases will require before they're settled. For instance, Trump deployed troops to Portland for 60 days. The deployment could easily end before a binding court order permanently halts it. Obviously, the president violating the law or a state's sovereignty should be enough to compel people against this move, but it clearly isn't. Very few Republican leaders are objecting to Trump's deployment. His voters seem invigorated by it, and pro Trump pundits seem outright supportive of it. I can understand this posture. An immigration crackdown is politically popular and fears about crime are high, so a lot of people see a president doing something legal arguments aside as refreshing. While I believe that the legal limitations on Trump's power are sufficient reason to oppose them, I'm also more compelled by a different these actions cost us too much. Some costs I accept. For example, I'd be happy to see my tax dollars go towards securing the border and paying for more immigration judges to process asylum claims and bring order to our system. Trump has approved those actions, and I support them. Increased border security with technology and troops is a worthwhile cost for more order to our immigration system. I own property near the border in West Texas, and I accept that increased security in this area means I have to go through checkpoints and submit to questioning by Border Patrol agents. I also accept the cost of changing our asylum system. This one's tougher for me because it means we as a nation are going to be much stricter toward the downtrodden and desperate who come here seeking a better life. But our asylum system is broken and it is being abused, and it needs to be reformed for the greater cause of improving our entire immigration system. These costs are all worth it. But other costs give me pause. Is it worth normalizing masked agents in America roaming the streets in unmarked cars, snatching up people who look or sound like immigrants? Is it worth abandoning due process and deporting people without hearings? Is it worth treating apartment buildings in Chicago like terrorist hubs in Afghanistan? Is it worth having soldiers rappel from helicopters into their homes? Is it worth detaining American children, dragging them out of their homes naked and afraid? Perhaps to some, all of this is worth it if the upside is rounding up illegal immigrant gang members who are terrorizing communities. But what if these raids are consistently pulling in American citizens or people here legally and nonviolent criminals? What if, despite all this, the government cuts highlight reels of said raids to share on social media, treating our constitutional rights like a video game? Do I want there to be order in Portland? Of course I do. Like many Americans, I watch Portland's 2020 protests devolve into property damage, looting and arson, and I wondered, where are the real leaders on the left who can control their own cities? But Portland gets to decide how to govern itself. It has elections where citizens get to choose their own future and determine how their city is run and decide what environment they want to live in? Is the cost of fixing Portland worth accepting a president flouting a court order from a judge he appointed who explained in great detail why the justification for his troop deployment was unwarranted? Is it worth having a president describe US Cities as training grounds for our military and quite obviously reveling in the thought of a military crackdown on citizens he sees as his political enemies? Something else about this moment worries me, too. As Trump's actions have become increasingly alarming to me over the last few months. I try my best to fulfill the promise of my take by being both honest. I'm alarmed and fair, not exaggerating or sensationalizing the situation or taking any partisan angle. The unfortunate result is that a lot of tangled readers who support the president have unsubscribed, accused me of having Trump derangement syndrome, or believe me to be so biased that I can't see the genuine threat the left poses, a threat that they say needs to be stomped out. This is not a new phenomenon or unique to the right. Just recently we lost a lot of liberal readers for our coverage of Charlie Kirk. We lost a lot of Democratic voters during the Biden administration for criticizing his policies and for suggesting he was unfit for a second term. What worries me now, though, is that the underlying root of this dissatisfaction seems to be a genuine desire for Trump to gather more power. Top aides to the president are now openly calling for a crackdown on prosecutors and judges and describing legitimate rulings from Trump appointed judges as legal insurrection. Both sides increasingly see each other as existential threats that have to be dealt with in an immediate, unyielding fashion. This dichotomy has cornered the American citizenry into a moment that feels hard to navigate out of. It's really not difficult to imagine where all of this is going and see a very, very dark future. What we need now are leaders willing to pump the brakes and step back from the brink. Unfortunately, there don't seem to be many in sight. We'll be right back after this quick break.
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Hannah Berner
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Isaac Saul
All right, that is it for my take today. Which brings us to your questions answered. This one's from Cheryl in Pella, Iowa. Cheryl said, as a staunch progressive, I firmly believe we should keep the subsidies in place for health insurance. My husband keeps arguing that it will fund insurance for illegal immigrants. What is the reality? Okay, so the Affordable Care act subsidies Democrats are pushing for during the government shutdown will not fund insurance for unauthorized immigrants. In fact, ACA benefits do not and have never gone to those residing in the country illegally. But the misconception is understandable. Republicans and Democrats have been fighting over two different sets of ACA benefits this summer. First, there are the extended ACA benefits. These enhanced premium benefits were introduced during the pandemic and they reduced premiums for ACA enrollees and expanded the eligibility pool to more people in the middle class. Enhanced premium benefits are set to expire at the end of 2025, but Democrats are pushing to make them permanent. At the same time, Democrats want the Medicaid cuts passed in the One Big Beautiful Bill act to be repealed. Second, benefits for lawful immigrants who are not citizens. In July, the OBBA restricted eligibility for subsidized ACA marketplace to some lawfully present but non permanent resident immigrants, refugees, asylees, those with temporary protected status. These restrictions are set to take effect on January 1, 2027. Additionally, a rule from the Department of Health and Human Services interpreted deferred action for Childhood Arrival Recipients or DACA children who came into the country illegally with their parents, also known as Dreamers, as not lawfully present and eligible for ACA benefits. Democrats oppose these changes too. Put simply, Democrats have fought against the changes in Bucket two and they are currently fighting against the changes in Bucket one. Contributing to this conflation, reliable conservative outlets have been putting these two issues next to each other, creating an implication that my emphasis added here, quote, those enhanced subsidies were supposed to be temporary and were set to expire at the end of 2025. Democrats want them extended. In addition, Democrats are screaming bloody murder about making sure illegal immigrants don't get covered, national Review's editors wrote. Democrats now want to undo most of the health care spending reductions, including restoring health care for illegal immigrants, and on top of that, they want to extend Obamacare subsidies for insurance companies, the Washington Examiner's editors wrote. So Democrats do want to maintain expanded eligibility for healthcare benefits to immigrants regardless of their permanent status, but that push still only applies to those in the country with authorization. Separately, the government shutdown only concerns extended ACA benefits, which do not apply to unauthorized immigrants. All right, that is it for your questions answered today. I'm gonna send it back to John for the rest of the pod. Again, good to be back with you guys and I will see you tomorrow. Have a good one. Peace.
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John Lowell
Thanks, Isaac. Here's your under the Radar story for today, folks. On Friday, a federal judge sentenced the person convicted of attempting to murder Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh to eight years in prison and a lifetime of supervised release. The Justice Department had sought at least a 30 year sentence in the case, but Judge Deborah Boardman noted several mitigating factors that led her to opt for a lighter sentence, including that the would be assassin self reported to law enforcement after staking out the Justice's house. Furthermore, the judge expressed concern that the offender who now identifies as a transgender woman would face adverse conditions in prison due to President Trump's executive order requiring transgender inmates to be detained in prisons that correspond to their biological sex. Fox News has this story, and there's a link in today's episode Description alright, next up is our numbers section. The reported number of law enforcement officers involved in the raid on a Chicago apartment building on Tuesday is 300. The number of arrests made since the start of the Trump administration's heightened immigration enforcement actions in the Chicago area is 800, according to federal officials. The number of arrests police have made outside an Immigration and Customs Enforcement facility in Portland, Oregon, since protests at the building began in June, not including arrests made by federal law enforcement agents, is 36. The approximate number of California National Guardsmen who mobilized Oregon on Sunday before a federal judge blocked their deployment was 100. According to a September 2025 NPR Ipsos poll, 38% of US adults support deploying National Guard troops to a major city in their state for law enforcement efforts, while 49% oppose it. And last but not least, our Have a nice day. Story A cascade of kindness recently uplifted a beloved staff member at a high school in Georgia. Ms. Len, the parking lot security guard at Flowery Branch High School, was facing financial struggles and car trouble. The school's principal, Joe Efarra, decided to help, offering to buy her a new tire. Then, local repair shop Christian Brothers Automotive raised the bar, gifting Ms. Len a 2014 Nissan Altima. Some of the school students also joined in, detailing the car and covering its registration costs. The community members then came together to hand Ms. Lin the keys of her all expenses paid new car. Sunny Skies has this story and there's a link in today's episode description alright everybody, that is it for today's episode. As always, if you'd like to support our work, Please go to readtangle.com where you can sign up for a newsletter membership, podcast membership or a bundled membership that gets you a discount on both. We'll be right back here tomorrow. For Isaac and the rest of the crew, this is John Law signing off. Have a great day, y'.
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Hannah Berner
All.
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John Lowell
Peace.
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Isaac Saul
Our Executive editor and founder is me, Isaac Saul, and our Executive producer is John Lowell. Today's episode was edited and engineered by Dewey Thomas. Our editorial staff is led by Managing Editor Ari Weitzman with Senior Editor Will Kick K Back and Associate Editors Hunter Casperson, Audrey Moorhead, Bailey Saw, Lindsay Knuth and Kendall White. Music for the podcast was produced by Diet75. To learn more about Tangle and to sign up for a membership, please visit our website@retangle.com.
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Paige Desorbo
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Hannah Berner
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Paige Desorbo
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Hannah Berner
Same they're so light and so comfy. And if it's not comfortable, I'm not wearing it.
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Paige Desorbo
And the bras? Soft, supportive and actually breathable.
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Plus they're so cute because they fit perfectly.
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