Stripe’s $53B PayPal Offer, OpenAI’s First Device, TBPN’s New Business Ideas | Diet TBPN

Summary

TBPN Diet: Stripe's $53B PayPal Offer, OpenAI’s First Device, and New Business Ideas

July 16, 2026
Hosts: John Coogan & Jordi Hays

Episode Overview

This Diet TBPN episode dives deep into breaking tech news and creative ideas, focusing on:

• Stripe’s monumental $53 billion acquisition offer for PayPal and its industry implications
• Rumors and details about OpenAI’s first consumer hardware device
• A volley of creative and often humorous new business/product ideas from the TBPN crew
  The tone is fast, irreverent, and insightful, with plenty of in-the-moment product brainstorming and tongue-in-cheek commentary.

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1. Stripe’s $53 Billion Offer for PayPal

The State of PayPal

• Decline in Value: PayPal stock is down over 80% from its COVID-19-era highs.
• Strong Fundamentals Despite Decline: Still generating $5.5B in free cash flow from 400M consumer accounts—“You’re getting a 10% free cash flow yield” (Sam Altman, 01:00).
• Strategic Asset: “That’s sort of the white whale of consumer. How deep can you go in the KYC flow in the consumer bank relationship? You really know these customers, which is valuable for a potential buyer like Stripe in this case.” (Sam Altman, 01:35)

Who Could Buy PayPal?

• Stripe: “They have a lot of desirable assets for Stripe. A consumer-facing checkout bank account details for hundreds of millions of consumers that you could integrate into Stripe's checkout flow and they have a consumer brand in Venmo.” (Sam Altman referencing Sheil Monot, 02:00)
• Apple: Also mentioned as a potential player, but culture fit and antitrust fears cited as issues.
• Visa and MasterCard: “PayPal's checkout button placement is enormously valuable real estate…acquiring the largest independent online checkout provider would and should face brutal regulatory scrutiny.” (Sam Altman quoting Sheil, 04:44)
• Elon Musk/X: Speculative, given Musk’s original involvement and his bandwidth being “spread impossibly thin.”
• J.P. Morgan: “Makes the most sense... Venmo gives them a P2P brand they’ve never been able to build.” (Sam Altman, 05:35)

The Integration Challenge

• Culture Clash: “PayPal is a 'sprawling legacy fintech with 25,000 employees'.... neither Stripe nor Apple would want to absorb that.” (Sam Altman, 03:11)
• Operational Know-How: Stripe would have to dramatically reduce headcount and run PayPal far more efficiently: “If you could make PayPal even run half as well as Stripe, that's probably worth double what it's currently worth.” (Tyler, 06:41)

Deal Details

• Structure and Valuation: $53 billion offer ($60.50/share, 28% premium over previous close, but steeply discounted from pandemic-era valuation).
• Financing: $50B committed in bank financing, with Stripe partnering with Advent International for equity.
• PayPal’s Reluctance: “PayPal has been reluctant to engage with the offer thus far.” (Sam Altman, 07:31)
• CEO’s Motivation: Recently appointed PayPal CEO Enrique Lores “can't imagine that he took the job wanting to just basically be acquired in a short period of time.” (Tyler, 08:38)

Deal Outlook and Industry Impact

• Pushback: Michael Burry, a large shareholder, is opining publicly that the offer is too low.
• Market Position: Stripe is now much larger than PayPal and would be pushing harder into consumer-facing products.
• Competitive Context: “There's fierce competition from Apple Pay, Shop Pay, Klarna…” (Sam Altman, 08:55)

“I think it'd be really awesome to watch this play out, see what they do with it, but it does seem like it'll take a few more rounds of negotiation.”
— Sam Altman (09:48)

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2. OpenAI’s First Hardware Device: AI Companion Speaker

Leak & Core Features

• Device Details: Rumored to be a screenless, movable smart speaker: “Designed to serve as a new kind of home computer for the AI era.” (Sam Altman, 10:29)
• Jony Ive Collaboration: Legendary designer reportedly involved in device development.
• Personalization & Capability: “OpenAI envisions it as an AI companion that gets to know its owner… can even draw on personal information like email to provide more useful assistance.” (Sam Altman, 10:37)
• Mechanical/Lifelike Elements: “Will include mechanical elements that move on their own, along with a camera and other sensors to understand the surroundings.” (Sam Altman, 12:33)
• GPT Live: Real-time conversational mode, contextually aware—should “hold more natural conversations and recognize when you enter a room.”
• Launch Outlook: First device expected to unveil this year, with a 2027 planned release.

Playful Take on Hardware

• Comedic Concept: “Sort of a function one concert level speakers that have wheels and can be wheeled around. It’s a movable smart speaker. It actually weighs one ton.” (Joking by Sam Altman & Tyler, 11:08-11:18)

The Importance of Agentic Devices

“We’re now crossing the chasm of like the Open Claw experience. ...It’s computer use plus agents plus desktop integration that makes it ultimately more usable.”
— Sam Altman (11:57)

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3. Brainstorm Bonanza: (Semi-Serious) New Business Ideas

Taste as a Notification Layer

• Oral Wearable: “A custom fit oral wearable that turns AI agent status into flavor. So you can feel a ChatGPT Codex run without watching the terminal.” (Tyler, 14:20)
• Sensory Feedback: Sour for finished tasks, spicy for errors, bitter for depleted API balance, sweet for general success.

“You get a sweet pop in your mouth that rewards the win. And it's also a Pavlovian feedback loop because you're just on the hunt for the next burst of flavor.”
— Sam Altman (15:25)

Laptop Detailing Service

• Startup-Adjacent Idea: Monthly “computer detailing service” for startups and SMBs in SF, keeping laptops spotless.
• Information Security: Parody of privacy paranoia—“our detailers will not photograph, memorize, transcribe, trade upon, tiff off a roommate, or otherwise profit from anything visible on your screen.” (Sam Altman, 17:32)

Paradox Toothpaste

• Luxury Refillable Toothpaste Jar: “What if toothpaste came in a luxurious jar?... Paradox is designed to be seen and used with intention.” (Sam Altman, 18:04)
• Rejected on Practical Grounds: “This is a bad idea.” (Sam Altman, 18:46)

Keyboard Water Bottle

• Hybrid Device: “A water bottle with the keyboard wrapped around it… when you're in the act of drinking water, you can't [speak], so you have to start typing.” (John & Sam, 19:02–19:29)
• Commentary: Compared to the “Nvidia purse”—fashion for the Geek Economy.

“Chip” – The Cute Autonomous EV

• Pitch: Compact EV robot car, “talks, parks itself... more customized than your coffee.”
• Demo Reaction: “This is bold. This is going to take some regulatory approval… But I love the vision.” (Sam Altman & Tyler, 21:40–21:49)
• Market Perspective: Entry price could be $15K–30K, in line with luxury golf carts.
• EV Startup Cycle: “Interested to see can this come to market in two-year timeframe, or three years... Based on China’s speed, I certainly hope that startups are able to bring cars like this to market much faster.” (Sam Altman, 23:38–25:10)

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4. Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Stripe buying PayPal:
  “Stripe is a fun option… It's funny, this Thiel-backed fintech company buying a Thiel-founded company. Full circle.”
  — Sam Altman (07:31)

• On taste-based notifications:
  “If everything is green... you get a sweet pop in your mouth that rewards the win. And it’s also a Pavlovian feedback loop because you’re just on the hunt for the next burst of flavor.”
  — Sam Altman (15:25)

• On privacy in laptop cleaning:
  “We clean screens, we do not read them. Even if your screen contains an unreleased earnings report, even if the font is very large... our detailers will not be trading on your inside information.”
  — Sam Altman (17:36)

• On the EV startup challenge:
  "I'd be really disappointed [if it drags]; and that might be regulatory failure, or just the supply chain... Based on the speed with which we see China shipping all sorts of vehicles that crab walk and spin around... I'd hope startups are able to bring cars like this to market much faster."
  — Sam Altman (25:10)

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5. Key Timestamps

• 00:01–09:48 — In-depth: Stripe’s $53B offer for PayPal
• 10:08–13:57 — Leak/analysis: OpenAI’s first hardware device
• 13:57–15:51 — Brainstorm: Taste-based agent notification device
• 15:51–18:53 — More business ideas: Laptop detailing, Paradox toothpaste
• 19:02–20:10 — The keyboard water bottle concept
• 20:18–25:10 — “Chip” autonomous EV and discussion on EV startup market cycles

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6. Episode Takeaway

This Diet TBPN episode delivers tech commentary at its sharpest—combining breaking news with playful product pitch sessions and deep, candid insight into the modern startup and fintech landscape. Whether it’s massive M&A (Stripe/PayPal), hardware innovation (OpenAI), or speculative business ideas, the crew’s chemistry and wit keep the content both highly informative and unmistakably fun.

Transcript

[Sam Altman]

Big news in the fintech world. Not related to Ramp actually, but Stripe, another Founders Fund project. It's Founders Fund Day. Stripe is offered to buy PayPal. This was rumored and on the timeline on and off over the past year, as PayPal's been a little beat up, we can pull up the five year chart. It's down over 80% since the pandemic highs. If you go back further, the 2020-2021 era for PayPal was like sort of an anomaly because of the big shift to E commerce during the pandemic boom. But things have not been looking good for the last five years. And so just a couple was it a couple months ago, Sheil Monot posted in February of 2026. He posted a little, a little question for the timeline. He said, so who's buying PayPal? He says it has the opportunity of being one of the great distressed value opportunities in fintech history. It's down 85% at the time. Still, still generating $5.5 billion in free cash flow. This is a $50 billion company. We'll go through the PayPal, the Stripe offer, which is at 53 billion. But you know you're getting a 10% free cash flow yield. I'm unaffected.

[Tyler]

Sorry, I'm not working through these. These new Sam, we got new ones.

[Sam Altman]

But if you think about it, it's like you have a $50 billion company printing 5.5 billion in free cash flow. You can use a lot to finance debt, obviously, which is what's proposed here. 400 million consumer accounts. So lots of consumers have PayPal accounts, have Venmo accounts. Maybe they're not fully active, but they're ready to be engaged. It's a huge footprint and huge distribution mechanism. And they have bank info attached that's difficult. You can't get from many other consumer applications. That's sort of the white whale of consumer. How deep can you go in the KYC flow in the consumer bank relationship? You really know these customers, which is valuable for a potential buyer like Stripe in this case. So checkout buttons are on millions of merchant sites, although that has been slowing. And that's part of the reason why a change of ownership might make sense at this point. And they also have this peer to peer brand with Venmo, which was bought by Brian Johnson Braintree and then sold to PayPal. Old lore. So Shiel, the first company he calls out is Stripe. He says they have a lot of desirable assets for Stripe. A consumer facing checkout bank account details for hundreds of millions of consumers that you could integrate into Stripe's checkout flow and they have a consumer brand in Venmo. Apple would also be a potential buyer, says Scheele. Good compliment to Apple. Pay for e commerce penetration. They never got social payments going. Scheel says those are the two logical options from a business value creation perspective. But he identifies a problem. He says in both cases, Apple and Stripe, the culture fit makes them a non starter.

[Tyler]

I take it back. They actually did buy a BNPL platform, which one that I've never heard of called Payde 2021 for 2.7 billion.

[Sam Altman]

Okay, so they. So so they do have an asset there that they are hopefully trying to

[Tyler]

grow, but prior to that they had already built their own.

[Sam Altman]

Got it. So shield calls out that culture fit might be a problem with PayPal integrating into Stripe. PayPal is a quote, sprawling legacy fintech with 25,000 employees. That's a huge company. Decades of technical debt. Neither Stripe nor Apple would want to absorb that. Although technical debt, you can clean it up. Coding agents, not too bad these days. Apple also might face big tech antitrust with this type of thing. That's a good call out. And yeah, you do have to wonder. Stripe incredible on the product side, on the innovation side, on the just building a fantastic massive $159 billion as of last tender offer business. But are they the team to be the ruthless cost cutters? If that's what it takes to turn PayPal around, that might be a different challenge culturally. Same thing for Apple. They're not this private equity firm that goes in and buys legacy assets and turns them around. So a little bit of a culture shift that I think Sheila is correct to call out. He also identifies Visa and MasterCard as potential buy, so they could both afford it. And they've been creeping into merchant acquiring and checkout. Also, we talked about that. The big banks are now taking a shot across the bow of Visa and MasterCard with their own card network. So there's potential that Visa and MasterCard might want to expand into a different territory, although that's not what's playing out right now. But who knows what other bidders will come out of the woodwork now that Stripe has made this offer to buy PayPal for 53 billion. So PayPal's checkout button placement is enormously valuable real estate for either Visa or MasterCard. The networks have been trying to move beyond interchange into direct merchant relationships. And PayPal could accelerate that by years. I think they may be burned out on antitrust. Either network acquiring the largest independent online checkout provider would and should face brutal regulatory scrutiny, says Shield. He goes on, he says, what about Elon? Elon Co founded PayPal and always wanted it to be called X. So there's some poetry in it coming back under his fold as X. Of course he is a Stripe shareholder, I believe. I think he was an angel investor. One of his very rare angel investments was Stripe. So you know he might be getting a slice of PayPal with this. Not too bad. His bandwidth is spread impossibly thin across Tesla, SpaceX XAI. This is pre merger X politics. And replying concerning to post at 3am never been a problem for Elon. But he said but you could have made the case he was spread too thin before he started acquired the last several companies too. Technical debt at PayPal is a big challenge that he knows I would never count him out. I just don't see it though. And then he says in his opinion, Shield says JP Morgan makes the most sense. They've spent heavily on payments and acquisition and an acquisition could get them closer to building a consumer super app alongside Chase. 50 billion would be a huge acquisition even for them, but they could stomach it. Assuming they could get regulatory approval. Venmo gives them a P2P brand that they've never been able to build, especially among younger consumers. PayPal's branded checkout button sits on millions of merchant sites. Remember, didn't J.P. morgan. Is it J.P. morgan that bought that company that Charlie Javis founded and then she went to jail or was accused of crimes because. And that pitch for her company was consumer facing, consumer facing.

[Tyler]

They had a relationship with Alleged. Yeah, I guess.

[Sam Altman]

I think she's been convicted.

[Tyler]

Yeah. They positioned it as having a lot

[Sam Altman]

of relationships with younger consumers, college students. And so I think the deal came in like north of $100 million. And then it was later alleged or discovered that those accounts were maybe generated programmatically. I think this was the pre AI era. Now it's even easier if you need to generate a bunch of fake data, but don't do that because it's fraud.

[Tyler]

Yeah. The question is like Stripe makes so much sense because to be able to pull off an acquisition like this, to be able to get the level of debt needed to do this, you need to have so much confidence that they're going to actually be able to. I'm assuming they'll end up reducing headcount pretty dramatically. I'm assuming Stripe looks at this and says, hey, I don't think we need to 25,000 people running this business. So who has the operational strength and know how to make PayPal run. If you could make PayPal even run half as well as Stripe, that's probably worth double what it's currently worth. So yeah, if you're, if you're a lender here, I don't, I don't see, or a partner, I don't see that you can find a better partner than, than Stripe on a deal like this, period.

[Sam Altman]

Stripe is a fun option. I agree with this. It's funny, this teal backed fintech company buying a thiel founded company, Full circle. The first offers already facing some pushback. Michael Burry, I believe is a shareholder and he posted on his substack about why he's not selling at this current price. He thinks that PayPal can get back to their previous share price from a year ago. But the basic structure of the deal is as follows. 53 billion for all of PayPal. $60.50 per share offered, 28% premium over yesterday's closing price. But it's a steep discount to last year's valuation. 50 billion has been committed in bank financing and the FT is reporting that PayPal has been reluctant to engage with the offer thus far. Stripe is much bigger than PayPal at this point. Also interesting, this offer was apparently sent over to PayPal weeks ago, maybe a full month ago based on the reporting, and it didn't leak. So whoever's working on this team, good job. Kept it. Yeah.

[Tyler]

They're taking it public. They're taking it public. ENRIQUE Laura's the CEO. CEO over at PayPal. Just got the gig. He had been over at HP.

[Sam Altman]

Yep.

[Tyler]

And you can't imagine that he's, you know, took the job wanting to just basically be acquired in a short period of time.

[Sam Altman]

Exactly.

[Tyler]

I would imagine he wants to get credit for a property.

[Sam Altman]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

Turnaround here.

[Sam Altman]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

And so I think they're going public with this now in part to try to put pressure.

[Sam Altman]

So Stripe is partnering with private equity firm Advent International for the deal. They have a lot of deal making experience in fintech specifically and I think they're going to go 5050 on the equity portion. But then there's a whole bunch of bank financing coming in and they will point in their offer to the fact that branded PayPal checkouts are slowing. There's fierce competition from Apple, Pay shop, Pay Klarna. These are reason to sell. PayPal will likely fire back saying, hey, we just brought in a fresh CEO, we have a restructuring plan in place, we're executing against that. Once that happens, once we're successful, we will get back to the 70s for our share price, which we traded at just a year ago. So yeah, maybe we're not going to go back to the pandemic highs anytime soon, but this offer is just too low for right now. But we will see overall, I mean Stripe has done an excellent job expanding into many adjacent markets. Atlas is a great example and they've never crack consumer but also they've never really tried in my opinion. And so I think it'd be really awesome to watch this play out, see what they do with it. But it does seem like it'll take a few more rounds of negotiation before anything fully materializes. Anyway, there is news out of OpenAI, the first consumer hardware device will reportedly be an AI companion speaker. According to Bloomberg, the device will be screenless and movable, designed to serve as a new kind of home computer for the AI era. And I believe Tyler has a mock up of what we think it would look like. I think I sent it to you. Did that make it into the timeline? Let's pull that up when we have a second. It will be able to answer questions, control smart home devices, play music and tap into GPT's capabilities. But the bigger goal is for it to become increasingly personalized over time. OpenAI envisions it as an AI companion that gets to know its owner, understands their habits and can even draw on personal information like email to provide more useful assistance.

[Tyler]

And if we have the image here.

[Sam Altman]

Oh yes, pull up what what I think it probably looks like based on this description, that it's screenless, movable and designed to serve as a new kind of home computer for the air. That's what I'm hoping for. Sort of a function one concert level speakers that have wheels and can be wheeled around. It's movable smart speaker.

[Tyler]

It weighs. It actually weighs one ton.

[Sam Altman]

Yes, yes.

[Tyler]

Because the onboard battery system. Yes, they want it to be mobile. They don't want you to worry about.

[Sam Altman]

Exactly, exactly. Imagine just wheeling this around and just pumping out Tiesto at concert level volumes

[Tyler]

throughout your home inside any room in your home.

[Sam Altman]

Any room in your home. Ideally those wheels would be motorized. It could follow you around and deafen you in any room. Sort of Brian Johnson's worst nightmare. Not to call back Brian Johnson but unlike today's smart speakers, the device is designed to feel more life.

[Tyler]

And yes, that is a bit.

[Sam Altman]

Yeah, this is a joke.

[Tyler]

This is a joke. But we have not been intentionally, not been read in on anything in device land because we want to figure out what's happening in Real time.

[Sam Altman]

But if you've been using codecs and you are running Codex on or just the new ChatGPT app which is fully codexified, if you've been running it on your computer, it's pretty remarkable. When you're on your phone and you're and you remote into your computer and you can have it go and just open your actual email and if you're logged into a new site, it will just use your actual login to go and open the website in your Chrome browser which is logged in and get you whatever information you need. So having the full control, I think that people are with the ChatGPT app on iOS integrating to Codex or ChatGPT app on Mac, we're now crossing the chasm of like the Open Claw experience. For people that weren't ready to set up the Open Claw whole agentic workflows and do all of this stuff jump through all the hoops there. These are just apps that you can install. You never really get hit with a terminal window whatsoever. So the next wave of consumers are adopting effectively these. I don't even know they're agents, but it's more like computer use plus agents plus desktop integration that makes it ultimately more usable. So unlike today's smart speakers, the device is designed to feel more lifelike, according to Bloomberg, and it will include mechanical elements that move on their own, along with a camera and other sensors to understand the surroundings. Powered by GPT Live, OpenAI's new real time voice mode, it should be able to hold more natural conversations and recognize when you enter a room. You'll also be able to take it around the house thanks to its rechargeable battery. Jony I've is helping design the product. Bloomberg says OpenAI's hardware team is developing roughly five AI devices with the speaker expected to to be the first targeting and unveiling this year ahead of a planned 2027 release. We have another example of what we think they should do in the device battle. The new smart device that I want from OpenAI is of course the. You've heard Greg Brockman say this taste is a new core skill, right?

[Tyler]

Yep.

[Sam Altman]

So what can computers what are they uniquely bad at doing?

[Tyler]

Taste.

[Sam Altman]

Creating tastes for you. Yeah, right. There's no real smell o vision yet. There's no computer device. There's no smart device that actually puts a taste in your mouth to signal what's going on with your AI agents. So I put together melt my pitch for the next AI device from OpenAI,

[Tyler]

a custom fit oral wearable that turns AI agent status into flavor. So you can feel a chatgpt Codex run without watching the terminal.

[Sam Altman]

Yes. So. So you don't need to look at a screen. This is perfect. If you're trying to cut back on your screen time, you don't need to hear anything. You can just listen to the beautiful surroundings of wherever you are. And yet you're still tapped in. You still know whether your build is failing or not. Because you pair with Codex. It maps the signals and it ships by taste. So when your agent is done, a clean sour pulse tells you that it's time to review the work.

[Tyler]

If something breaks, like a good.

[Sam Altman]

Yeah, sort of like a Sour Patch Kids. Nice. It's a little sweet, but it's sour. It lets you know, hey, it's time to go check on what's happening. Review some code. Make sure everything's shipping as you hope it is. If something breaks, you get a flash of heat. It gets spicy in your mouth. This pulls your attention. You got to lock in so you have some spicy flavor in your mouth. If your API balance hits zero, you get this bitter taste. It's not good. You gotta go refill.

[Tyler]

This bitter note makes the problem impossible to ignore.

[Sam Altman]

Yes. But if everything is green, everything is shipping appropriately, everything's good to go. You get a sweet pop in your mouth that rewards the win. And it's also a Pavlovian feedback loop because you're just on the hunt for the next burst of flavor. And it can also look like an iced out grill, which might be nice.

[Tyler]

More seriously, we were over here at tvpnhq. Any idea that we have immediately gets turned into a website now.

[Sam Altman]

Yes.

[Tyler]

We have the Laptop Detailing Company of San Francisco.

[Sam Altman]

Yes.

[Tyler]

And, and this is a business that we actually think should be built.

[Sam Altman]

Yes.

[Tyler]

John was cleaning his laptop last week and whatever product you had ordered off

[Sam Altman]

of, I didn't order it. Team ordered it. It's a, it's a normal like screen wipe. But I didn't realize that you're supposed to use gloves when you use these screen wipes. And it gave me a chemical burn all over my hands. Be very careful. Like my whole. Just wanted to clean on my finger screen peeling off. It's been terrible.

[Tyler]

So we think that there is a real business, silly, but real business opportunity to make a la computer, you know, like a computer detailing service, like a car detailing service for laptops. You sign up a bunch of companies, startups in San Francisco, you know, early stage companies, enterprise, et cetera. You give them a monthly plan to keep all of Their employees. Laptops clean and polished. And. Yeah, this was. This was one shot, and I think it gets the job done. So no excuses. I think that the only thing I disagree with on the site is the pricing.

[Sam Altman]

The pricing. How much?

[Tyler]

I think. I think 20. 29, 99.

[Sam Altman]

Well, you know why this is so subsidized? Because the screen cleaners are looking for trade secrets and then trading off of them. But, of course, if you're doing this, you need to have the. The. No. No insider trading guarantee, which is featured here. To be extremely clear, our detailers will not photograph, memorize, transcribe, trade upon, tiff off a roommate, or otherwise profit from anything visible on your screen. 100% information is not used. Right.

[Tyler]

That's.

[Sam Altman]

Let him know.

[Tyler]

That's a great.

[Sam Altman]

You gotta let them know.

[Tyler]

That's a great offer.

[Sam Altman]

We clean screens, we do not read them. It's almost like she doth protest too much. Even if your screen contains an unreleased earnings report, even if the font is very large, even if the ticker symbol is impossible to miss, our detailers will not be trading on your inside information.

[Tyler]

I think these have to be on site visits.

[Sam Altman]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

Yep.

[Sam Altman]

What's another big problem in the world? Big problem is that everyone knows the phrase, you can't put the toothpaste back in the tube. Well, what if you could? What if you could. What if toothpaste came in a luxurious jar? The company's called Paradox toothpaste. Out of the tube, it's a refillable, frosted glass jar that turns the most ordinary part of your morning into a ritual worth displaying. Do you think this would sell Paradox? Most toothpaste is designed to be hidden. Paradox is designed to be seen and used with intention. Twice a day scoop, one precise pearl. No crusty cap, no guesswork, no wasted squeeze. Brush your teeth. Then you can.

[Tyler]

What do you do with the spoon, though?

[Sam Altman]

You just dip it back in the toothpaste. Luxurious toothpaste.

[Tyler]

It's over for this idea.

[Sam Altman]

This is a bad idea.

[Tyler]

It's funny, though.

[Sam Altman]

It solves the problem. You can't put toothpaste back in the tube. Everyone's been clamoring.

[Tyler]

Everyone's been clamoring for this.

[Sam Altman]

To put the toothpaste back in the tube. Now you can. Tyler made one. He has a pitch for Khidra.

[John]

Yeah, this was another idea I had for an OpenAI device. So basically, it's a water bottle with the keyboard wrapped around it.

[Sam Altman]

Okay.

[John]

So if we can pull this up here, you can see, like, you know, a lot of times you're typing and then you go to grab water.

[Sam Altman]

You're thirsty, you want to keep typing.

[John]

Yeah. And this also is especially prescient now because of everyone's using whisper.

[Sam Altman]

Right.

[John]

You got to talk and you can't talk while you're drinking water. Right.

[Sam Altman]

So why not just put a microphone on here instead of keyboard?

[John]

No, no, that's the whole point. When you're in the act of drinking water, you can't.

[Sam Altman]

Oh, so you got to switch to typing.

[John]

So you have to start typing.

[Sam Altman]

That's right.

[John]

It's almost like a flute.

[Sam Altman]

Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.

[John]

I think this can be pretty promising.

[Sam Altman]

I actually think that when you showed me this image, I think just aesthetically it's a cool looking bottle. Even if the keyboard isn't functional whatsoever. I think people would just rock this type of bottle because they like the aesthetics of a keyboard. Sort of like that Nvidia purse. You've seen the GPU purse. That's. It's clear plastic and then Inside is a. A 100 or some sort of Nvidia GPU and it just sort of shows you the circuit board. And the circuit board is the art, is the design of the purse. I thought it was pretty cool. I would pick one of these up if you manufactured one.

[Tyler]

What do you think? Absolutely not. We have another. New car alert. New car alert. This one, the car is called Chip. Chip Motors.

[Sam Altman]

Let's play this.

[John]

It is.

[Tyler]

It is funny. It is funny.

[Sam Altman]

I want to see their.

[Tyler]

You know, a year ago, you could have been sitting there thinking, why has no one made a cute EV car for getting around your town or your neighborhood? Yeah. Why is no one.

[Sam Altman]

And now there's like seven companies.

[Tyler]

There's a bunch of companies. Apparently a lot of people had the same idea.

[Sam Altman]

Okay.

[Tyler]

Jameson from the CEO of Chip Motors says the next great American car is a robot. It talks, parks itself. More customized than your coffee. Chip, you can observe today.

[Sam Altman]

Let's play this video. I want to see it.

[Tyler]

Yes. Saturday's here.

[Sam Altman]

I'm Chip, by the way. Let's get moving. Hi, Chip.

[Tyler]

Hey, Chip.

[Sam Altman]

Hey, My cruise here.

[Tyler]

Ready to roll.

[Sam Altman]

Oh, he's got crazy fomo.

[Tyler]

That's right. Go get him, guys. Have fun.

[Sam Altman]

Love you too. And I'm talking to myself.

[Tyler]

Hi.

[Sam Altman]

Go park, Chip.

[Tyler]

You got it, boss.

[Sam Altman]

I like the LED screen on the front. I've seen demos of that in like, Chinese. Chip, I forgot the snacks again.

[John]

Can you run to the market on it?

[Sam Altman]

Drives itself. This is bold. This is going to take some regulatory approval.

[Tyler]

Yeah, yeah. Okay. So I love the vision.

[Sam Altman]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

And I think as just the base model in its current design will sell units. Right.

[Sam Altman]

I, I mean there's like to channel Doug demuro, he'd say it's no, there's no way it's going to wind up shipping at 15k. There's going to be a bunch of upgrades. It's going to be difficult. But yes, like at 15k with these features like 100%. But yeah.

[Tyler]

Even at somewhere in the range of, you know, 20 to 30, I think these things sell because I know what these sort of like higher end neighborhood golf carts go for. They're already all in that range. So yes, I agree it's probably but

[Sam Altman]

at this point you said like, yes, I will buy this, this neighborhood golf cart to like seven different golf carts and you're like 400k in the hole on golf carts and you could have just got a lucha and chop the

[Tyler]

top, chop the top on the luche.

[Sam Altman]

You gotta chop the top.

[Tyler]

It's not a bad idea. Imagine your, the example I think they used was like a kid's soccer practice. Can you imagine like parking for a kid's soccer practice or soccer game and being like, yeah, robot that I just bought, like go park yourself. Like that just sounds like the sketchiest situation.

[Sam Altman]

This customizer is so cool. You can get livery of like an American flag from the factory.

[Tyler]

It's taking a different direction than Amble. Amble is betting that you're going to want something that has less technology. Right. More simplicity. They're going very tech forward. Everything from autonomous driving to you know, screens and AI in the device. Different, different bets, different customer bases. I think that can both work. We're, we're in touch now with, with the chip team so we'll, we'll look to get them on, on the show at some point soon and hopefully they can just drive this thing right, right behind the horse and get on the set.

[Sam Altman]

I'm excited. I mean I do really, really hope that the time to market for startup these weird like sort of niche vehicles and these new EV makers shortens because we had this moment where it was impossible to start a new car company. Then Elon built Tesla into what it is, the number one selling car in I think the US and in China the Model Y. So huge success. And then there were a number of follow ons that were like Nikola and a few others that either ended very poorly or went bankrupt or didn't really get to breakthrough. And they took years and years and years and billions of dollars in capital to ship something. And they weren't really able to find their footing in the market because at the time when for example, like Lucid, Lucid eventually launched a premium ev, SUV or a premium eventually launched an suv, but a sedan. And by that time like the Taycan was out and a few other. And Mercedes had the eqs. And so there were a lot of other major brands that had been able to deliver on a similar promise on a similar timeline. Whereas Tesla's advantage was that they were able to be the first EV and they had like a monopoly on EVs for like a decade. Basically it was the only viable one. It was like that or like the Nissan Leaf. And now there's more competition but they're established. I'm interested to see can this come to market in two year time frame or three years something as opposed to. I would be really. I'd be really disappointed. And that might be regulatory failure. That might just be the supply chain. There might be a variety of different things. But based on the speed with which we see China shipping all sorts of vehicles that crab walk and spin around and do jump and all these crazy features, I would certainly hope that startups are able to bring cars like this to the market much faster. We'll see you tomorrow.

[Tyler]

Do us a small favor and have the best Wednesday afternoon of your life.

[Sam Altman]

Indeed. Indeed.

[Tyler]

Just do it.

[Sam Altman]

Sign up for a newsletter tvpn.com it's

[Tyler]

the least you could do. Yeah, please.

[Sam Altman]

And we'll see you tomorrow.

[Tyler]

We love you.

[Sam Altman]

Goodbye.