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#4445 Making Mr. Wrong
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A viewing of an old 80s movie has Andrew and Luke wondering when John Malkovich became a Serious Actor. And Luke is still embarrassed about a “four grape breakfast” situation that unfolded in his hotel this morning.
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Andrew Walsh
An old Gus is the biggest catfish in the pond.
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Luke Burbank
Legend has it the only bait that'll.
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Andrew Walsh
Catch old Gus is a piece of old Gus himself.
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Luke Burbank
So every time they catch him, they.
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Andrew Walsh
Cut off a little piece of him.
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Luke Burbank
So they can catch him.
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Andrew Walsh
Now, how did the very first person catch old Gus? Well, that's a story for another time. Right now. Tbtl. I saw a woman psychiatrist, and she said I was OCD one cool dude. And she understands the way I think right now. And everything's cool, everything's copacetic. Everybody's happy. And I'm happy, too.
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Luke Burbank
I don't even know what that means.
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Andrew Walsh
No one knows what it means, but it's provocative. They said, you know what? We need to have a third interview.
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Luke Burbank
With you because the notes from the social worker is that you seem anxious.
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Andrew Walsh
High strung and eccentric. Yeah, that's what I do. That's the cornerstone. It's the business plan.
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Luke Burbank
And we've become great friends. I mean, close. We'll just sit in the front room.
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Andrew Walsh
And we'll sit there.
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Luke Burbank
He'll walk, he'll go to the front.
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Andrew Walsh
Door, kind of knock on the door.
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Luke Burbank
And then sit down. Then I'll sit, then he stands, and he's out in the front. Then he'll come in. We just sit there and he'll stand and I'll sit. And then I stand and you sit. And then we're both looking at each other and we're just nodding like a couple of nodders. Right, let's get to the jokes. Well, all right. Hel. Hello, good morning and welcome, everyone, to a Tuesday edition of tbtl, the show that just might be too beautiful to live.
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Andrew Walsh
It is political correctness run amok.
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Luke Burbank
My name is Luke Burbank. I am your host. I'm an activist and house party enthusiast coming to you from beautiful San Rafael, California, where we don't got sunshine today. We got some clouds, but it's still lovely here. It's green, it's hilly, it's beautiful. We've learned how to pronounce the name of the city, and I think things are going to start happening for us right now on episode 4445 in a collector series, Let the Fun Begin. Did get off to a little bit of a rough start this morning where I was publicly embarrassed trying to get breakfast at the hotel here. So far, this breakfast has been a disaster. We will talk about that. Also, Saturday Night Live has apparently, apparently they have apologized to the actor Amylou Wood from the White Lotus for their portrayal of her in a recent sketch I have to be honest with you. That was, I think, the way that they sort of made fun of her teeth. It wasn't a nice move. But that was not the primary issue with that sketch. It was just that it was. I know you're just trying to be stupid and ass funny, but it's not funny. We will get into that as well. Oh, and we're gonna talk to this guy. Guess what? He's the longest running cobro of the show. Maybe best known for his depictions of the tall ships. I'm almost positive of that. Are you sure? That's what they said on Ask Jeeves. He is Andrew Walsh and he's joining me right now. Good morning, my friend.
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Andrew Walsh
Good morning, Luke. It's San Rafael, by the way. You say all three. Oh, okay.
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Luke Burbank
A new wave of emails has come in.
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Andrew Walsh
Yeah, exactly.
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Luke Burbank
We need more clarifying the clarifications.
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Andrew Walsh
No, you nailed it. You nailed it. San Rafael.
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Luke Burbank
Oh, man. I was walking around San Rafael yesterday just like I owned the place. Now that I knew how to. How to say it. I do love the. The architecture here in Northern California. It brings back for me like a buried memory of my fairly brief childhood in even further north in California, in like Eureka, California, where I was as a young, young person. It's this kind of intersection of like Victorian stuff that you'll just see. There's just a lot of. I guess it just must have got built up in the like late 1800s, early 1900s. A lot of Northern Cal, probably the gold rush. And it was. I had a beautiful afternoon. I just wandered around in the sunshine.
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Andrew Walsh
You go, that Amy's place.
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Luke Burbank
I didn't. I failed you.
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Andrew Walsh
No, that's okay. It wasn't on the show.
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Luke Burbank
Host and a scary monster.
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Andrew Walsh
And as a scary monster, I shouldn't have asked. I would have been on the show. Had you.
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Luke Burbank
You know what? Actually, that's good deduction on your part. But. But also, no, I. You know, I'm trying. Even with the vegetarian stuff, I'm trying to not go ham.
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Andrew Walsh
Yeah.
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Luke Burbank
On the processed stuff. So I went into this little. I think it was called the Flat Iron Flatiron Grill. Maybe it was like a bar restaurant. And I sat at the bar and I watched the San Francisco Giants just absolutely lay waste to the Philadelphia Phillies. And I felt like I. This is not a humble brag, but I. Everybody was very nice there. But I felt like I was quite out of step with the scene at the bar because what I ordered was a cup of lentil soup and then something called the Crispy Asian salad, no meat, and a Diet Coke. I just felt like I was being a real. No fun Nick. But it was delicious and I enjoyed it. And I did have a moment. You might appreciate this where the Giants just got. Absolutely. They got gifted a call where their pitcher. So the Phillies were down by four, but they had. It was real. Muto was batting for them. We know that guy.
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Andrew Walsh
Yeah.
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Luke Burbank
And sorry. Yeah, for the Phillies. Real Muto.
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Andrew Walsh
I accidentally made him an Atlanta Brave at one point, like in the recent. In a recent show. And I want to correct the record on that. Sorry. I got the division right. I knew as I was saying it he wasn't a Brave. Anyway. Go ahead.
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Luke Burbank
He was at bat and it was three and two. There was two guys on. And the pitcher for the. For the Giants threw a ball that was well out of the zone. It was at least 6 inches out of the strike zone. And it was called Strike 3. And had it been a walk, as it should have been, it would have been bases loaded, tying run at the plate, which would have just been kind of. It might have even been Bryce Harper. Might have been the tying run at the plate, which is a good tying run to have at the plate. And also weird, by the way, speaking of Mormons, which Bryce Harper is. They have a Mormon Bible.
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Andrew Walsh
That was an interesting segue because I thought you were just making up that we were talking about Mormons.
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Luke Burbank
No, but I noted that here in this hotel in San Rafael, they have a Gideon Bible and a Mormon. Whatever the Mormon Bible is. I guess it's called the Book of Mormon.
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Andrew Walsh
Book of Mormon, Yeah.
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Luke Burbank
I think, as the musical is famously established, that's classic. When's the last time you were in a. And this is a new. This is an AC Hotel. This is a new fancy hotel where they like to embarrass me at breakfast. The fact that they've got both a Gideon Bible and a Book of Mormon, isn't that kind of a throwback?
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Andrew Walsh
Well, I mean, it depends on what part of that is a throwback. I think the idea of Bibles in hotel rooms is a throwback yet. Now I'm trying to remember, if I go to a new hotel, is there a chance there isn't a Bible? Because for some reason I haven't seen.
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Luke Burbank
A Bible in a hotel room because of the. I guess you could say the strata of hotels that I tend to stay in because I'm usually not paying for them. I have not seen a Bible or a Book of Mormon in a hotel room in. Well, since I can remember and that's.
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Andrew Walsh
The way it should be. I feel like I, you know, it's.
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Luke Burbank
So strange throw a Quran in if we're doing this right.
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Andrew Walsh
But I did. Veeves and I on our road trip down to the Grand Canyon, I know we stayed in.
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Luke Burbank
You probably stayed in a Book of Mormon when you were in Kingdom.
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Andrew Walsh
Actually, you did, Right. I know that we stayed in some hotel rooms.
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Luke Burbank
He literally. Joseph Smith opened the Book of Mormon. You climbed into it and slept.
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Andrew Walsh
I was going to try to riff on some of the storyline of the origins of that religion, but I. Oh.
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Luke Burbank
You mean the angel Moroni and the plates revealed. Sure.
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Andrew Walsh
And I didn't want to steal that from you.
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Luke Burbank
From me, exactly.
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Andrew Walsh
So I'll just skip over all of that and respect our Mormon friends. But yeah, generally speaking, I just, you know, I probably stay in lesser hotels than you, so maybe it's more common to have a Bible in a cheaper hotel. I don't know.
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Luke Burbank
But that would be my guess. Yeah.
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Andrew Walsh
It's a dream. That like, thing though, like it's 2025 and it's like even in it, like you said a new hotel. Like, if you feel like the hotel has been there since it was okay to smoke in hotels and you're like, okay, whatever. It's a whole.
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Luke Burbank
If you can put a quarter into a device that makes the bed rattle.
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Andrew Walsh
You mean like they did in that sexy scene in Making Mr. Right, which Genevieve and I watched last night. I don't know if you've ever seen.
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Luke Burbank
That movie, but I give it full.
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Andrew Walsh
Throated, two thumbs up. Despite some shaky performances by John Malkovich, believe it or not.
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Luke Burbank
Did he read. Did he revive the role of Teddy KGB from Rounders?
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Andrew Walsh
No, this is early. This is like mid.
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Luke Burbank
Do we need to revisit the topic of John is John. Had John Malkovich been getting away with bad acting right under our noses for all these years?
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Andrew Walsh
That's the thing. Like, it's so this is pretty early in his career. I know that we're getting this.
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Luke Burbank
We are bringing this back to Bryce Harper, by the way.
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Andrew Walsh
We're bringing it back to Bryce Harper and then we're getting it back in Bryce Harper how you were embarrassed at breakfast. But maybe it later on we can talk about the movie making. Mr. Right. I had no context for it. The TV, I've never heard of it. Last night it's. John Malkovich plays both a like, tetchy scientist who invented a robot for some sort of Globo tech firm and a woman who's a really good, like, top of her game. PR person has to basically sell this robot to the American people. And the robot is also played by John Malkovich because it's made completely in the image of the nerdy scientist who created the robot. But also he gave the robot, it turns out, a large member. And it's never revealed whether or not that was made in the likeness of his creator. But it does become a body reference throughout. It's a hell of a.
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Luke Burbank
Kind of like a sort of a nutty professor adjacent like a nerdy inventor guy who also has a version of himself that's actually quite interesting to the women.
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Andrew Walsh
Well, here's the deal. I don't like the way I set that up because I'm really. I apologize. I'm not in my. I'm not in top form here. I'm still just waking up.
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Luke Burbank
My project to convince you is 2pm failed miserably today.
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Andrew Walsh
The problem is the way I described that movie was quite sexist. It's not really about him. I was starting with the Malkovich because that's what was on my mind. It's more about the woman. But the woman, I don't know her name.
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Luke Burbank
What else has she been in?
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Andrew Walsh
Is she making well known person making Mr. Right? I don't think so. Although she's very much of a. She was amazing in it too. Which is. Her name is Anne Magnuson, who I was unfamiliar with. But she's like kind of a. She's like a go get. It takes place in Florida, in Miami, by the way, which is interesting because there's some like kind of Cuban politics involved as well because she's dating who's running for Congress.
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Luke Burbank
But she really is that person played by Andy Garcia who gets a recuban American role.
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Andrew Walsh
He is played by somebody who, I don't know, maybe Ben. I'm looking at the IMDb here. He might have been Ben Masters, I think. I don't really know that name. But she's a real pistol. She's awesome. By the way, the character that Ann Magnus this in place, she's a real go getter. She is the focus of the movie. It is her film. And she plays Frankie Stone, of course, Frankie Stone. She plays Frank famously. She plays Frankie Stone, the PR person to the stars. And it's her job to sort of like make this. But then the robot gets loose. But the thing is the way John Malkovich plays it, like some of the robot scenes, it's really like he's kind of doing Simple Jack a little bit. You're like, I don't know about that. And it's also just bad at times. He has one amazing line where he's describing being kind of put off when his own robot tries to give the man his money. No, he says he kissed me on my. Very near my mouth in the way. He said it was a very John Malkovich way of saying it. It had me laughing out loud. But aside from that, you would be shocked that one of the greatest actors of a generation made this movie. Because not only is it like, you know, it's not that the movie's terrible, but literally some of his performance is really rough.
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Luke Burbank
Well, this is what I'm wondering. I mean, I'm actually really questioning this. Like we. We hold John Malkovich up as he's in this new film, by the way, where he is once again playing a extremely over the top character. I forget the name of the film, but it's basically like he's some sort of performance artist who's doing like a. I think it's an A24 film, which, you know, is always the mark of quality. But like, it's weird how we just allow certain actors to chew the scenery and we just go, that's really good acting. And then other ones were like, that's John Travolta.
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Andrew Walsh
Yeah, right. Like, how do you.
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Luke Burbank
How do you get to be Malcatraz versus Travolta? Like, when did we decide that when John Malkovich is just being again, I keep going back to this Teddy KGB thing, but it's like it's a. It's a ludicrous acting job by John Malkovich as a quote, unquote Russian poker player whose tell is that he eats Oreos in a certain way that indicates to Matt Damon that he doesn't have the cards or whatever. Like, is it possible John Malkovich is a bad actor?
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Andrew Walsh
When did we start taking him seriously is my question? Because I mean, I do like him. I do take him seriously. I'm not questioning that until this very moment.
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Luke Burbank
But maybe for me, I would say the apotheosis of Malkovich was as I already used the term Malcatraz. It was probably in the Being John Malkovich, Charlie Kaufman film. And that was extremely meta and very sort of like self aware of Malkovich.
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Andrew Walsh
But isn't that already built on the idea that he is an actor losing Dangerous Liaisons? Okay, yeah, right.
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Luke Burbank
Very like he's being very serious. He's one of America's most serious bald actors.
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Andrew Walsh
He is very serious.
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Luke Burbank
I think that's what we're getting down to. It's like America allows exactly one bald actor, one male bald actor a generation, and we decided it was Malkovich.
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Andrew Walsh
Well, I do recommend, with many, many caveats, if you want a silly movie that you're not going to take very seriously, but you want some really amazing set and some amazing costume design, set.
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Luke Burbank
In 1987, I believe, of Anne Magnuson.
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Andrew Walsh
I mean, just her outfits alone, Luke, make you want to watch this movie.
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Luke Burbank
Are you. Were you guys still on to be. Was the tubi still on from last night?
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Andrew Walsh
You know what? I don't remember what the platform was. All I know is the TV said, hey, I was looking for some escapism while I folded some clothes kind of earlier in the evening. And the TV said, hey, do you want to watch this Mel Brooks movie called Getting in Trouble or something? It was suggested some Mel Brooks movie where he's like, a rich guy who has to pretend to be poor. And I put it on, and Genevieve's like, we literally watched this, like, three months ago, and it's terrible. And I was like, yeah, it rings a vague bell. So then I was like, well, what else you got for me? And then it started offering me up a bunch of, like, just 80s kind of schlock.
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Luke Burbank
Okay, back to Bryce Harper and The Philadelphia Phillies vs. The San Francisco Giants. Do you say verses or verse? I feel like I grew up saying versus. I say V, and I feel like smart people, like our friend television's Chris Hayes. When I hear him on his podcast, he says, verses.
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Andrew Walsh
Oh, no.
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Luke Burbank
And I got verses from. I thought I got that from Nintendo.
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Andrew Walsh
Oh, like versus.
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Luke Burbank
Ever written out or it was versus. I feel like sometimes when you were doing two player, there was. There was a universe in which on Nintendo, or maybe just like James DeMuth said to me, oh, we're gonna do verses here. And so maybe I got the wrong.
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Andrew Walsh
Well, it's not. It's not Kramer versus Kramer. Right.
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Luke Burbank
Thank you. It is Kramer versus Kramer. Why are we saying it's like China verse us?
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Andrew Walsh
Yeah. Oh, I don't know. See, I don't know that I had. I don't know that I've picked up that. People say that I had never noticed.
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Luke Burbank
You have not gotten it on the verse.
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Andrew Walsh
No, no. But I do think saying V is a way of, like, making it seem like you have, like, a legal background or something. What about that? Love it.
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Luke Burbank
I'll allow it.
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Andrew Walsh
Kramer. Yeah.
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Luke Burbank
So, okay, San Francisco Giants v Philadelphia Phillies. I'm sitting in the Flatiron Grill, eating the least fun meal they sell and watching the game. But I'm watching it with a secret, which is I don't care about either of these teams, really. I guess I would sort of default to the Phillies because of my Philadelphia roots. But what happens is the pitcher throws a pitch well outside the strike zone, and it is called a third strike. And everybody in the bar is celebrating, and I can't let it go that this was not a strike, even though this benefited the San Francisco Giants. And I was like, ooh, they got one there. And everyone was like, really? I was like, oh, yeah, that was out of the zone. The guy. Was it low? And I was like, no, it wasn't low. It was outside. And then they show the replay, and it is well outside the zone, and they're like, I guess. And I was like, oh, my goodness, this is what it is to be a fan. Like. Like this. I'm. I'm observing their bias from a. Like a. You know, a sort of a 30,000ft. Like, this was by any definition, not a strike. But because they're Giants fans and they were happy with the outcome, they thought it was a borderline pitch.
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Andrew Walsh
You know, I know that I have all kinds of biases that I'm sure affect my sports viewing, and I would argue that I'm not the most informed viewer on some of these sports. But I will say with baseball, I feel like I kind of do track when the Mariners are also getting breaks. Like, there are plenty of times where you're watching, you're just like, oh, my God, like, we really got screwed there. We really. And you're black and white. But then there are some times where it's like, okay, we kind of got that one back now. There's some situation.
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Luke Burbank
Zone is what it is.
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Andrew Walsh
It is. And there are some situational things, too. You know what I mean? Was it a, you know, called third strike? Well, that's going to be a lot more, you know, infuriating potentially. Or sometimes it's actually the second strike is called in and makes them blow their. Their third strike, you know, because of.
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Luke Burbank
The whole exaction of the at bat.
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Andrew Walsh
But it depends on where it happens in the game, where it happens. Who's. You know, who's. Who's on the bag. So anyway, like, I do try to, like, when I see my team get a break, I try to, like, kind of clock that and be like, okay, okay. I sort of, you know, the strike zone is. Is definitely it. It goes as far east as Bel.
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Luke Burbank
Well, I. And I. I try to be the same way.
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Andrew Walsh
Bellevue. Damn.
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Luke Burbank
Yeah. That would be north that'd be north. But, but also sometimes, depending on who the umpire is, it can go as north as Bellingham.
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Andrew Walsh
Yes, exactly.
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Luke Burbank
But yeah, I try to do the same thing. I try to be very clear eyed about when the Mariners get a break because again, for people that don't watch baseball these days, there is this little superimposed strike zone square which every year when the umpires get together at Coconut Grove or wherever they get their cabal together, they must just, there must be an effigy of that superimposed strike zone that they burn every year because just what an absolute performance review on your job. Every pitch that thing is. And it is, I mean, it really is the reason why we need robot umps because the strike zone is a very knowable thing and we don't need Angel Hernandez guessing. I think he's not in the league anymore. But you know what I mean, it just, it just should be a thing that we're using the best that whatever technology brought frickin Lauren Sanchez and Katy Perry back to Earth from Blue Origin yesterday, whatever that technology is, use it on strike zones. We, we can do this.
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Andrew Walsh
Use it on something important. So were you following some of the spring training? Right? I don't know that this is where we needed to take the show. And I think some of our listeners.
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Luke Burbank
Are probably, we've covered the Bryce Harper shooting.
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Andrew Walsh
We covered that.
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Luke Burbank
But it's the natural nec.
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Andrew Walsh
It sort of sounds like the robots, the robots are coming. Right. But it's not going to just be a. First of all, it's not going to be Mr. Right. The John Malkovich robots will not be hugely hung. That would be awesome.
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Luke Burbank
Just imagine a massively hung robot just behind the catcher.
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Andrew Walsh
He's just like sweetly touched. But it's going to be more like, well, you can challenge it. Right? They were doing this in spring training and I think maybe still in the minors this year. It's like, well, if you don't like the call of the ump, you can challenge it. And then they'll go to the robot and then see how the robot tracked it and then you can kind of overturn it or not. But I heard that during spring training more often than not, and this might have just been people choosing their moments to challenge incorrectly, but it sort of sounded like more often than not the umps calls stood even after scrutiny.
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Luke Burbank
I'm not surprised by that because if the manager is challenging it based on their perspective, like they probably don't get. Like they probably are. My guess is they're not seeing the Same footage we're seeing. Or maybe they are. Like, the thing that tells me it wasn't a strike is not my inherent sense of the strike zone. It's that there's a superimposed rectangle, and I see the circle thing go not in the superimposed rectangle. Does Dan Wilson get to see that? Is that what he's challenging based on? Or is it that he just from looking from the dugout, thinks that the ball was not where the umpire said it was?
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Andrew Walsh
That's a really good question. I assumed that the people calling the challenge. Wait.
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Luke Burbank
Oh, maybe they're upstairs.
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Andrew Walsh
Yeah, that's right. I think that, like Dan, I think they have people who do have eyes on some sort of technology.
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Luke Burbank
Okay.
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Andrew Walsh
I don't know. It's technology, but that. Definitely a different perspective than him because he's like, the manager will often wait. Right. To hear from upstairs, but I don't know.
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Luke Burbank
Do the headphone signal.
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Andrew Walsh
Right. But then the thing is, if the people who are making that decision have the same view that the umps would in review, why wouldn't it. Why wouldn't the challenge be upheld 100% of the time? Does that. Does that make sense? You know, yes, if they're all reading off the same script. I mean, I think the important thing here is. Can I talk you into a Making Mr. Right special edition film soundtrack that I just stumbled on? Let's just say that track 17 through 24 are all by Chaz Jankel.
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Luke Burbank
Oh, sure. Chaz Jankel, Sure.
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Andrew Walsh
Yeah. In the lab. That must be the, like, the more the score part of the movie because you have the chem tech promo video music. Ulysses Escape. Ulysses is the name of the robot, by the way. And he does escape. I meant to tell you earlier.
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Luke Burbank
Is that a James Joyce reference what.
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Andrew Walsh
It was, I'm assuming, or a Ulysses S. Grant.
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Luke Burbank
Was Ulysses S. Grant famously hung. I believe he did have an issue with alcohol dependence.
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Andrew Walsh
What was. Wasn't there also a Ulysses, A poem? Who wrote the famous poem Ulysses?
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Luke Burbank
I think that was. I thought that was a book by James Joyce or a poem by James Joyce.
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Andrew Walsh
No, no, it was a book by James Joyce. But I thought there was a. Yeah, Alfred Lord Tennyson, I think. Also a poem called Ulysses. I only know that because one time I got excited about the idea of Ulysses. One time because I think.
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Luke Burbank
Is that your next project now that you've finished the Count of Monte Cristo?
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Andrew Walsh
That's right. Yeah. I'm gonna. No, I don't think I could ever touch that. But I Think there was a bit of pop culture that I learned was based on Ulysses. It might have been a song. I might be thinking of the song by Jefferson Airplane that would sort of track out. And I remember being in brother Giao's class and he must have been my lit teacher.
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Luke Burbank
Whoa. This is at a Walsh or Ignatius.
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Andrew Walsh
Saint Ignatius. He is now the president, by the way, I believe. I don't know if he's still Brother or Fi. I assume that he's Father Giao now. But he was like a young. Fresh out of the seminary. He was such a young man when he was teaching us. I think it was his rookie year. Do they call it rookie year when you're a teacher for the first time? I think it was his rookie year and we all really liked him and he was a great teacher. And I think he was teaching us something about Ulysses. And then I brought in, I believe, a Jefferson Airplane CD or I told him, I'm like, hey, Jefferson Airplane has the song called Ulysses. I think it's based on this. And I think he said, I think that's based on the poem. And that's why. Because that's how he became president. And then I said, sir, I knighted him and he became president and a priest.
- [24:04]
Luke Burbank
You were like, you did it. You unlocked the path to presidency. Yes. I would absolutely do an entire show or maybe a side project on the soundtrack to Mr. Right. Becca and I were having a conversation the other day about top five film soundtracks.
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Andrew Walsh
Oh, that's an interesting conversation.
- [24:23]
Luke Burbank
And I was showing my age and my. I guess you could say my sort of predilections. Is predilection ever used in a non negative term? I just meant the things I like. But I feel like predilection is usually the thing right before something bad that a person did.
- [24:37]
Andrew Walsh
I use that word a lot.
- [24:38]
Luke Burbank
Predilection for. And then fill in the not good blank.
- [24:42]
Andrew Walsh
Right. I don't think it's. I don't think it's necessarily negative, although it might just be the way we commonly use it that way. But I'm not sure I like to use that word. But then I always get insecure using it.
- [24:54]
Luke Burbank
I. I said, I think Lost in Translation has the greatest film soundtrack of all time. And then followed by the big chill.
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Andrew Walsh
Are you serious about the big chill?
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Luke Burbank
Well, you know, it's a. It's got a lot of, you know, the.
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Andrew Walsh
No, no, I'm not challenging you. I'm sorry. That was a rude thing to say. It's an incredibly famous soundtrack. It's Just from a different generation. So I wasn't sure if you were saying that because it's. Because so many people have said that before. I wasn't sure if you were sort of saying that, like, this shows my generation. And then you went with the generation older than you. But. No, that. That's a good answer. Terrible. For. For. Now you're in. Now you're in your head. Like, I'm insulting you. Like, it's not a good soundtrack. Of course.
- [25:29]
Luke Burbank
Listen, it's not the first and it.
- [25:31]
Andrew Walsh
Won'T be the last soundtrack or.
- [25:33]
Luke Burbank
No, you've insulted me.
- [25:34]
Andrew Walsh
Oh, yes.
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Luke Burbank
No, I think, you know, I think I got the Big Chill. Well, so here's. Here was my way into the Big Chill soundtrack. And by the way, you're absolutely right. I think that is kind of, like, commonly described as, like, it was. It seems like it maybe was the first soundtrack that people were like, hey, soundtracks are good, or something. Like, it's. It's pretty much the most famous, most famously appreciated soundtrack. But here was the thing, because I grew up in a weird Christian environment where we didn't. There was a lot of music that was kind of off limits. Like, I didn't grow up in a home where the Big Chill was either viewed as a movie or the soundtrack was appreciated. And so I remember getting to college and being somewhere, and again, we're talking, like, 1995 and somebody playing the CD soundtrack to the Big Chill and me literally being like. Like, this is really good. This is. This is some solid, like, Marvin Gaye, Carol King, whatever's on there. You know what I mean? Just, like, some recognized hit songs that they just put on there so that, like, Kevin Klein and I don't know who else is in that movie. I've never even seen that.
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Andrew Walsh
I saw it once, but I was in college, I want to say, so I don't recall.
- [26:40]
Luke Burbank
I think it's a movie where a bunch of people in their maybe early 30s get together. I think someone has passed away, and they all meet up at a house to memorialize the person. And then, you know, big chilling ensues or whatever it is.
- [26:53]
Andrew Walsh
There should be a name for that genre. Right? Because there's a lot of movies like that. And I think Big Chill, I'm assuming sort of definitely, if they didn't create the genre, set the standard for it, certainly, like, kind of young adults are like kind of like that phase of.
- [27:06]
Luke Burbank
Life, people finding who they are in the world or whatever.
- [27:09]
Andrew Walsh
Exactly. But they've been apart from each other. People who were once Very, very closely bonded. Have been apart for a while, while they've been becoming adults and growing and then they get together during that ph. Life. You know, sometime somewhere between your 20s and 30s, right. I mean, it was 30. I never saw the show 30 something. Was there any. Was there sort of that vibe in that TV show? 30s?
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Luke Burbank
I think that's exactly what the vibe was of that TV show was basically like. Like what I would now consider early adulthood. Your 30s. Yeah, certainly, you know, trying to kind of navigate your way through it and figure out, you know, who you are going to be in the world or something. I think I would imagine that 30 something was more or less the television version of whatever happens in the Big Chill. That reminds me, by the way of one of my most. And I've had a lot. But one of my most cringy moments, which was when Camaro. Kevin. I tried to force Genevieve to watch Beautiful Girls.
- [28:01]
Andrew Walsh
Yeah.
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Luke Burbank
Which I've never exactly that kind of movie. It's. And it was. We were very. Well, I was very drunk. I believe Karmaro. Kev was into his cups. I don't know what Genevieve's status was, but it was like. We were just like, it's. It's literally one of the best movies that's ever existed. And then we all sat around in Kevin's living room at about one in the morning watching it. And just the. The absolute devastation that crept over me realizing, oh, this movie is shite.
- [28:30]
Andrew Walsh
And was it also. Was it also very. I literally have not seen this movie, but I've heard you guys tell that story before or I remember you guys all kind of like laughing or cringing about it like the next weekend or whatever. Was it also because there was a woman in the room and it was like a real bro y movie in a way that you had. That didn't help because I haven't seen it. That's a legit question.
- [28:49]
Luke Burbank
It's basically like, yeah, it's exactly that kind of Big Chill sort of thing, which is. It's. I think it's. It's maybe Christmas time or Thanksgiving. It's a holiday and everyone's coming back to their upstate New York town. Well, not everybody. In fact, most of the people have just been there. But Timothy Hutton's character, he's kind of the, you know, the protagonist, I guess, comes back up for the holiday and sort of re engages with all these people who, you know, he hasn't seen for a long time. And they've all got their stories and their high school versions of each Other that they're trying to kind of square with. It definitely has there. Well, so Michael Rapoport is in it and he is in love with Martha Plimpton. And Martha Plimpton is a waitress and is basically Michael Rapaport's character is this, this like guy who's full of bravado, but it's kind of not really done a ton with his life. But he has these speeches that like 20, I thought they were profound at age 22, like where he's talking about women and supermodels and he, he buys this ring from Martha Plimpton and it's like a, it's like a champagne colored diamond which he's been talked into as being the, the new cool thing, but she's kind of put off by it. All of the stuff that Michael Rappaport's character is saying, which I just thought, which blew my mind at 22. It's just the dumbest shit. Yeah. As a 45 year old guy or however old I was watching, I was like. And yes, Genevieve being there watching it didn't help. But even I think absent that I would have been like, oh, this is all just dumb. None of this holds up.
- [30:23]
Andrew Walsh
Yeah. You know, there is a hey Dummies question in our list. This isn't exactly what you're getting at. My brain is just. It's like jazz today.
- [30:32]
Luke Burbank
It's just like, I love it, I love it.
- [30:34]
Andrew Walsh
It's like, Lou, I'm just not having. I'm having a trouble like kind of forming thoughts. But there's a great question that I keep returning to, to potentially answer in a hey Dummies video. But I find it to be man's world. What was that all about?
- [30:52]
Luke Burbank
Jazz. I don't know.
- [30:53]
Andrew Walsh
Oh, jazz.
- [30:53]
Luke Burbank
Okay, sure, I was gonna, but then I thought that was too long. So then I just played Scatman's World. But now we've taken more time with that.
- [31:05]
Andrew Walsh
So you're talking about things that you revisit and it's sort of cringy. And like I have things like that I can't like off the top of my head, I would say like the Doors. Now I like that as a much younger person, but like the idea that the Doors just blowing my mind with Jim Morrison's lyrics and like getting into like the, the depths of the Doors and going on that whole journey like that really blew my mind as a younger person. Now I haven't rejected the Doors. I don't want to insult do fans. I didn't know you were A Doors fan. But, you know, like, I might privately put that I. Hey, listen, if you don't think I privately put on the song the Soft Parade every now and then and stomp around the basement to all 18 minutes of it, you got another.
- [31:44]
Luke Burbank
If you want to know, a snapshot of the difference in the stuff that we tend to appreciate. It's like the only Door song that I have any patience for is their most Elvis number, Touch Me.
- [31:57]
Andrew Walsh
Oh, yeah, that's a good song, which.
- [31:58]
Luke Burbank
I love, but I think I love it because it just sounds like a song Elvis would have done. And you're in, like, you're. You're in minute 16 of the soft Parade.
- [32:05]
Andrew Walsh
Although, is the. Is that off of the Soft Parade? No, I don't think that might be off.
- [32:09]
Luke Burbank
I had Soft Parade, Andrew. I had a Doors greatest hits tape that just tells you how committed to the Doors I was. I was willing to listen to one of their songs as long as it was a greatest hit.
- [32:19]
Andrew Walsh
Yeah, I think that was off the Soft Braid. But it's interesting because that's the problem with the soft braid. I'm blanking. I want to say it was their sophomore effort. Now I'm just getting into Doors talk here, but it was a little bit all over the place. Like, the. The song the Soft Parade is like a 10 minute long. Like, it begins with him saying. With no music. It begins with him speaking like a priest. When I was back there in seminary school, Luke, you would hate it so much. You would hate it so much. And. And I just. I could probably recite the whole thing to you right now. But then also, when Val Kilmer died.
- [32:51]
Luke Burbank
I did have a moment of thinking I should go back and watch Oliver Stone. Doors.
- [32:55]
Andrew Walsh
You shouldn't. Like, you should just remember it in your head. However you did. He's like, I loved that mo so much. Who plays Andy Warhol? It's. It's. What's his name from Back to the Future. Hey, you get your damn hands off her. Right? It's.
- [33:08]
Luke Burbank
Oh, Crispin Glover, isn't it?
- [33:10]
Andrew Walsh
Crispin Glover. He brings Andy phone. God gave it to me. Or what does he say? You can. You can talk to God on it.
- [33:19]
Luke Burbank
Like, you know, the only thing I can think about with Andy Warhol is allegedly he had halitosis, the real person. And for some reason, and I learned that detail, or I was told that, or read that 25 to 30 years ago, somebody was listing in some book the kind of things about Andy Warhol, like he had. Apparently he had pretty bad skin and he wore wigs, obviously, and he had halitosis. And that was like. The point of this was he was working. He was working with a pretty bad starting circumstance. But then he became, of course, this extremely influential person. And he also was allegedly not very nice. Like, there was a lot not going for Andy Warhol. But the bad breath thing has never left my mind since I heard that. I don't even know if it's true, but I've never been able to let go of that.
- [34:01]
Andrew Walsh
Do you know, And I don't know if I can find out the spot here, but you.
- [34:06]
Luke Burbank
I just. I just. Willie Boop Henderson, you. I just jazzed you so hard about Andy Warhol's breath.
- [34:13]
Andrew Walsh
Well, it's driving me bananas. Basically, what you just described is a. Here, I'm going to try playing this here and then we'll get to that. I'll just try to finish my thought on this hey, dummies. Question. But the music. Look, I get it.
- [34:26]
Luke Burbank
I'm not always fun to be around. I can be loud and abrasive. My breath. The doctors say I have incurable stink tongue.
- [34:35]
Andrew Walsh
But I don't care what other people.
- [34:37]
Luke Burbank
Think of me as long as they listen to what I have to say.
- [34:41]
Andrew Walsh
I can't remember where it goes from there.
- [34:42]
Luke Burbank
Also from incurable stink tongue.
- [34:45]
Andrew Walsh
Think about incurable stink tongue. That's David Cross from Kimmy Schmidt. Anyway, there's this interesting question. So there's the things that we loved, that we grow up and we're kind of like, oh, wow. With either modernized or adultized or whatever. That's cringy. But maybe, like me, I like to keep a little bit of love for those things, maybe even if it is just privately in my heart, but hold.
- [35:03]
Luke Burbank
Space for those things, actually.
- [35:05]
Andrew Walsh
But there's a really interesting question from a listener who wants to know, is there anything. And don't answer this. Now, Luke, if you think of a good answer, maybe save it for an upcoming video, because I would love to answer this. What is something that you loved but was sort of ruined either by something you did in a moment or somebody did to you or something that you can't question back to. And I feel like there are definitely things that, like, I now associate with, you know, something that I loved. But if I listen to it now, like, I can think of. I don't want to get into it. I think of one song that I used to love in high school, but then I associate. I associated it with a girl I had a big crush on and then some awkward moment involving Me and her. That in that song. And I'm like. When I hear that now, I only think of a really awkward. And it doesn't even matter. Like, I'm an adult. I'm an adult man in a stable relationship. Like, there's nothing about that moment that should hurt me anymore, but it still just hurts me because it was me and I was awkward, and it just makes me cringe. But aside from that, which I clearly don't want to get into the details on, I can't think of something, some piece of art that I used to love that has been ruined by circumstance.
- [36:13]
Luke Burbank
Yeah, I would. I don't know if I have a great answer to that. Excuse me. What I would say is there's a lot of stuff that I loved that has been ruined by how bad it is.
- [36:24]
Andrew Walsh
Yes. Looking back on later. Yeah.
- [36:26]
Luke Burbank
But not by the circumstances of. Not by, like, me embarrassing myself at a viewing of the thing or a listening of the thing that has now made it inextricably linked in my mind.
- [36:38]
Andrew Walsh
Well, that's good.
- [36:39]
Luke Burbank
Well, yeah, we talked about this the other day on the show. I guess I should say I'm grateful that I don't. I don't ruminate a lot on. I should ruminate more like you ruminate too much, and I ruminate not enough about things. And I don't tend to go back into things that I said that I wish. I mean, there are probably some exceptions. There's definitely plenty of behaviors that I wish I wouldn't have done, but I don't relitigate a lot of stuff in my mind about things that I said, which, again, I feel lucky about because I say so much stuff. My whole job is saying stuff. And if I were inclined towards that, it would be a tough situation, as you have expressed to me at times. I mean, this is a really weird job for you that you're asked to just talk for a minimum of five hours a week on this show and that you tend to sometimes go back and rethink those things, and that can kind of bug you.
- [37:32]
Andrew Walsh
We should really move on because I don't know if we want to get to the top stories today, but there are some good ones in there, and I feel like I've held things up. But I texted you the other day because we were talking baseball. I don't. Well, we talk about baseball a lot, but a couple of weeks ago, I think talking about that Giant series, speaking of the Giants, I thought I was saying in my memory of a conversation we had had a couple of days Earlier, I'm just driving along, and suddenly I'm like. I think I referred to Verlander, Justin Verlander, as Max Scherzer during a conversation. Like, I'm just driving.
- [38:05]
Luke Burbank
You didn't, by the way.
- [38:05]
Andrew Walsh
You said Verlander for some, like, because of their names. Both, like, kind of aging.
- [38:10]
Luke Burbank
And they're both, like, grizzled. Grizzled top really good pitchers who are now grizzled and looking at 40 who.
- [38:16]
Andrew Walsh
Have ERs in their name. Scherzer, Verlander. And so I've always gotten those two names confused. And I was driving along, like, just not a care in the world. Actually, I think coming home from buying my new audio board, which is still just delighting me, that everything finally, just everything is working in my studio. Knock on wood. I'm just having a nice sunny day. And then all of a sudden, I was like, oh, no. Two days ago, I confused Verlander and Scherz. Not a huge deal. But then I remembered, and this is a real story. I was recounting this. A listener had written in earlier this week, I think, talking about some anxiety they were having. And I sort of just like, weirdly kind of like, opened up and gave way, way too much TMI about this moment that I had in a record store about, I'm going to say a couple of months ago, Genevieve had gotten me a gift certificate to a record store in the Fremont area that I had not heard of. It's a small little place. I wish I could shout them out, but I can't remember the name of it now. But I plan on going back and supporting them. It was a really cool thing. Genevieve got me this gift certificate. We're gonna go record shopping together, which is also just sort of part of the gift. It was a nice afternoon, Went to lunch, went to this record store, and I'm looking for records, and I'm flipping through some, like, Big band records or something, and I think I saw a Glenn Miller record. And I'm like, glenn Miller? Yeah. We were talking about Glenn Miller on the show, right? We're talking about how he disappeared, like, during World War II. And then I'm like, wait, was that Benny Goodman or Miller? And then I'm like, wait, maybe that was Goodman. Then I'm like, wait, was I talking about. Was I describing Benny Goodman as a trombonist, or was I describing Glenn Miller as. Because I cannot. And it occurred to me, I think I've been confusing those. I know one of them plays trombone, one of them plays clarinet. But I think in my head, I'm often confusing which one is which and which one disappeared. And, Luke, I am not joking. I'm not looking for any kind of special counseling from you here. But I am somebody who is not a stranger to feeling intrusive thoughts or having them sneak up on me and feel uncomfortable. Luke, I had an almost physical. And I don't know why I had an almost physical reaction to this.
- [40:29]
Luke Burbank
Of all the topics.
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Andrew Walsh
I don't. Maybe it's because maybe, like, jazz and baseball, two things that we're talking about more and more on the show. I'm deeply insecure in my handle on a lot of the basics of it because I came to them later and maybe also especially because of jazz. You know, that people love jazz. And I don't know. And I feel like a poser when I talk about jazz. I don't know what it was, but I was in the record store. Luke, I swear to God, if Genevieve wasn't there, I probably would have put my records down and just gone for a walk because I was overwhelmed. I was just like, who was listening to this? Now, I did not receive one piece of feedback about that, so I still don't know.
- [41:05]
Luke Burbank
I think we. Wikipedia, if I remember this. Converse. This Glenn Miller conversation, first of all, I don't think in any way you said he was Benny Goodman. And also my memory of it, and this is a while ago.
- [41:16]
Andrew Walsh
This is a long time ago.
- [41:17]
Luke Burbank
I remember Googling because the question was, like, how did Glenn Miller die? And I think what we found out was. Or we were reminded of was his plane disappeared over the English Channel. But I remember in the conversation looking it up on Wikipedia. So that tells me that you weren't calling him Benny Goodman. That would have been corrected in the moment.
- [41:35]
Andrew Walsh
Okay. Yeah, that's right. If you were looking it up as we're talking, maybe it's fine. And also the fact that nobody, I mean, somebody would have written in, gently or otherwise, to say to like, oh, I think you're confusing these two, but I can't explain to you, like, and again, I've had intrusive thoughts. I don't even know if that's an intrusive thought. It intruded on my life, I'll tell you that much. I was. Luke, I was standing in the corner, like, Genevieve. I mean, I don't know if she can hear me now, but, like, she was in the store, and she has no idea that I went through, like, almost like a mental breakdown that lasted, like, maybe just a few minutes. But was so real. As I'm thinking back when we talked about this two months ago, did I go on and on and on about Benny Goodman, who went missed miss during World War II? And I was just. Like, I was just standing there. I think I froze. Like, I was just so mortified by the whole thing. And like, you say, like, here it is. Like, you know, it's months later, it's sunny outside my window. Talking about it covers me a little bit here. Like, okay, I'm a dingus. But there was just something about standing in that record store thinking that maybe tens of people heard me make an egregious mistake about two jazz giants. And, like, I just. I almost couldn't navigate my way out of there.
- [42:47]
Luke Burbank
I wonder if that also has to do with the state of the world. Like, just the general sort of panic that we're all in, at least if we have brains. That it just. The stakes of everything, somehow. That's your. Maybe that's your. The anxiety that you're feeling generally is just hit and different and so something as kind of minor as Benny Goodman v.
- [43:11]
Andrew Walsh
Glenn Miller.
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Luke Burbank
Glenn Miller. Thank you.
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Andrew Walsh
Yeah. I can't.
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Luke Burbank
We only said the name eight seconds ago.
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Andrew Walsh
No, I can't keep them both in my head either. That's the thing I real said. I. That. That suddenly, too, I'm like, wait a second. How off. How many times throughout my life have I confused these two guys?
- [43:25]
Luke Burbank
I don't think. Just so, you know, just so you can sleep tonight, Sir, I don't think that. I don't think you were calling him Benny Goodman. I think. I think you were on point and under budget with the description of Glenn Miller. And just so that you can take that one, you know, put that one on the side.
- [43:42]
Andrew Walsh
Good. Fantastic.
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Luke Burbank
We was hoping for some razzle D. Razzle dazzle. Razzle dazzle. That's right, man. Razzle dazzle. On your mark. On your mark.
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Andrew Walsh
Get set, get set now.
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Luke Burbank
Ready, Ready. Go. Everybody.
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Andrew Walsh
Razzle dazzle.
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Luke Burbank
All right, let's thank some dazzling donors, these incredibly generous folks. They will forgive us. They will permit the occasional jazz legend mix up, and they continue to financially support the show with a dazzling amount of dough, of course. We're talking about Deb Tanas of Tacoma, Washington. Hey, Tacomi.
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Andrew Walsh
A Tacomi. That's right. Thank you.
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Luke Burbank
Hi, guys. Yes, all three of you. Last year, when Luke was flying solo, I shared my journey of walking the Camino de Santiago for 500 miles and how TBTL got me through some challenging days. Oh, yeah, that's I would love to do that someday, but by the way, the Camino de Santiago, I believe that's in Spain, and it sounds like quite the adventure.
- [44:45]
Andrew Walsh
I've never heard of it. And when you're flying solo, did you do a show without me where you're taking phone calls or.
- [44:50]
Luke Burbank
I think I might have done a. Did I do a week or was it just a day? Felt like Andrew. It felt like a lifetime. There was certain kind of a thing.
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Andrew Walsh
Where it must have been when I was in Croatia.
- [45:02]
Luke Burbank
In Croatia, I think our vacation. By the way, are you going to Croatian Day at the Mariners this year?
- [45:07]
Andrew Walsh
Yes, I am. Yes.
- [45:09]
Luke Burbank
I think I just cleared my schedule. I think I'll be.
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Andrew Walsh
Are you serious? Oh, that's great. It's gonna be a huge. I have. I'm gonna be also coming with a high school friend and then his kiddo and a friend of his. So I'm rolling in five.
- [45:21]
Luke Burbank
I'm probably bringing Becca. I'm gonna pick up random Croats on the way.
- [45:25]
Andrew Walsh
This is gonna be a huge. We're gonna have, like a whole section of.
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Luke Burbank
Of people fun. I'm excited. I didn't go to one game last year, which is a travesty. Anyway, Deb says, okay, 2024 was a tough one to endure. This past election cycle and some family challenges has really validated how important my favorite podcast family is to me and how the daily welcomed banter was really a needed distraction from real life. Thank you. Thank you so much. A huge shout out to my favorite fellow 10 Lisa Moylen Potts, Chris Surface, and Jordan Anderson. Stay cool.
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Andrew Walsh
Stay cool, dudes.
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Luke Burbank
Dude. We love. We love all of this. We love the community. We love the shout outs to other members of the community. And Deb, we really appreciate you supporting the show and I'm glad that we were able to distract you a little bit from real life, which is pretty rough these days for a lot of us. You heard Andrew already in the record store, just basically battling. Yeah, battling with intrusive thoughts. I think we're all having versions of that. So glad we could help out a little bit and thank you for making this thing possible. Maestro, on your mark. On your mark.
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Andrew Walsh
Get set, get set now.
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Luke Burbank
Ready, ready, go. Everybody rattle. It's Jeff Zapata from Seattle, Washington. I wonder if Zapata is Zapato. That's a Spanish for shoe. I wonder if zapata is. Is like some kind of deriv. What is it derivation from that? Derivation.
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Andrew Walsh
I do like the word derivation. You mean like maybe way back in the Day.
- [47:01]
Luke Burbank
I don't know, it just looks and has many of the letters of the Spanish way.
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Andrew Walsh
Could have been a. What do you call somebody who works on shoes? A cobbler. No.
- [47:08]
Luke Burbank
Yeah, yeah. You call them a Daniel Day Lewis.
- [47:11]
Andrew Walsh
You do that? Certainly do. The Phantom thread. Wait, no, that's My Left Foot I think you referenced. Huh.
- [47:16]
Luke Burbank
No, I think it's phantom thread.
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Andrew Walsh
I don't. I've never seen My left foot. I just assumed if it was shoe related. Maybe you were afraid.
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Luke Burbank
That's an amazing guess because. Do you know the plot of My Left Foot? No.
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Andrew Walsh
I have seen the phantom thread.
- [47:27]
Luke Burbank
He is a person. He is playing a real life person named Christie something or other who was an artist who could only move their. They only had physical control of their left foot.
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Andrew Walsh
Oh, yeah, now that you say that, I realize that yes, they had.
- [47:39]
Luke Burbank
Yeah, they. The breast of their body was racked with some sort of a, you know, palsy of sorts. But they could control their left foot. The real person. And he played that person. Did he win an Oscar for. That was his first. That was maybe his first Oscar.
- [47:52]
Andrew Walsh
I'm not sure. I just love the idea that I'm out here telling people that My Left Foot is a story about a cobbler.
- [47:59]
Luke Burbank
Pretty great. That's a pretty great poll. We know Jeff loves it. Jeff says I don't care for writing these things. However, I've recently had a knee replacement surgery. Surgery. Thanks. Osteoarthritis. That has given me more downtime than normal this year. I'm supporting the POD for the hours of archived content that I can listen to throughout the experience. This experience. Aside from sports, I'm not the biggest TV and movie guy, but I can always listen. Interesting enough, Jeff does love the movie. What was it? Building Mr. Right.
- [48:32]
Andrew Walsh
Making Mr. Right.
- [48:33]
Luke Burbank
Making Mr. Right. That's the one movie that Jeff loves. And so this. He really super served that P1 today.
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Andrew Walsh
And he loves. And he doesn't like sports. He likes Giants vs. Phillies games and that. He likes talking about the zone and expanding.
- [48:46]
Luke Burbank
Exactly. He's a Bryce Harper aficionado. I'm not the biggest TV movie guy, but I can always listen to the guys ramble on about God knows what. Just knowing that at some. That at some day they will be joined by a professional like John Sklaro and if I may quote Paul Harvey, a good day.
- [49:05]
Andrew Walsh
Wait, is that how Paul Harvey began his little commentaries or did he sign off with that? I didn't.
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Luke Burbank
I thought he signed off with that interest.
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Andrew Walsh
Yeah, because he's the. That's the rest of the story. Right.
- [49:17]
Luke Burbank
No, no, you're right. You know what? And that's the rest of the story is how he signed up. So maybe Good day was how he started.
- [49:22]
Andrew Walsh
Maybe. Yeah. Huh? Yeah.
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Luke Burbank
I don't think. Yeah, you're right. Because. And his whole thing was like. And that's. And then I feel like over the years, the pause between. And that.
- [49:31]
Andrew Walsh
Yeah.
- [49:31]
Luke Burbank
And the rest of the story. Yeah, Just that that pause expanded eventually. It was over three minutes.
- [49:37]
Andrew Walsh
Yes.
- [49:37]
Luke Burbank
I was the entire segment. I love that move.
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Andrew Walsh
I think I've said this to you before, but I remember doing a TV project where I think it was my class and I was being graded like, the project was about me as a, Like a producer and cinematographer. I know I had to produce like a new. A TV news feature of some sort. And my friend Brian saw Warwick is his full last name. You might know him. People in the Pittsburgh area might know him from the radio waves. He was like my. He was my reporter and I had him doing a stand up or something somewhere. I have no idea what the story was about. Right. But I made sure, like, it was not supposed to be a funny bit at all. It was just a straightforward news story. But I had him just like put the longest pause between. I think it was. For WKSU News, I'm Brian Soorek, and I thought that was just a nice little. It was not a comedy project, but it made us laugh. Our.
- [50:38]
Luke Burbank
By the way, good on that. WKSU churning out two broadcast professionals.
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Andrew Walsh
Yes. He's the one who got me into. He's the one who literally got me in the door at wksu. He. I. There are many people that I owe my career to or blame my career on, depending on your mood. He is one of them. Yet he's an important one. Yes.
- [50:58]
Luke Burbank
Well, listen, thank you so much to both of our donors today. We could not be doing this without you, Deb and Jeff. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
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Andrew Walsh
I'm Andrew Walsh.
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Luke Burbank
Hello and welcome to Top Story. Okay. I'll try to make this quick, but the breakfast thing at this hotel is a very small thing. But it did make me feel embarrassed, which was after my little workout stuff, I went downstairs to get a cup of coffee. Coffee. I went to the front desk and I asked, are they still doing coffee? And she said, yes. Actually, you know what? They're still doing breakfast like another 15 minutes. Or she might have even said, you're in luck. They're still doing breakfast. I was like, oh, okay. And so I walked over to The. Where the coffee was and also where this, like, really nice, like, breakfast buffet spread was. It was one of those real Fapoon moments.
- [51:54]
Andrew Walsh
Yeah.
- [51:54]
Luke Burbank
A really beautiful continental breakfast. And I was like, crazy.
- [51:57]
Andrew Walsh
This one Germany is like.
- [52:00]
Luke Burbank
I was like, go AC Hotel San Rafael. Like, this was, you know, everything you could imagine. And so I went over there and I got a bowl, and there was a lot of people eating breakfast. And I was sort of late to the party, so I felt like I was being slightly clocked coming in. People were noting that I was there. Maybe they heard of the podcast. I don't know. And I looked around, and I did this moment of trying to decide, like, what I wanted to do was maybe get, like, two cinnamon rolls and a, you know, whatever of sausage or something. Whatever my most decadent thoughts would be. But I was like, I'm trying to be healthy boy. And so I was like, maybe I'd start with the fruit. Maybe I'll just get some fruit. So I go over and I get, like. I'm. There's a little tongs, and I start to get grapes. I'm placing, like, four grapes into my bowl. I'm gonna. But I'm gonna do some scrambled eggs, too, because this. That's, like, high protein, and I think, you know, minimally processed. I'm like, this is gonna be great. And the. A person from the hotel comes out and says, oh, can I get you breakfast? And I was like, well, I'm getting it right now. I was like, no, I'm good. I'm getting it. And she sort of stands there awkwardly, and she goes, so, are you gonna have breakfast? And I was like, yeah, I'm getting it right now. And then I realize, oh, oh, this costs money. This is not a faboon situation. This is not a Hampton Inn continental breakfast. This is, like, probably 20 or $30, because that's why they have every kind of thing here right now. There's no. Because I remember thinking, like, how are they making. How are they making money on the hotel rooms when this is a really elegant spread of food.
- [53:37]
Andrew Walsh
Interesting. And is she also, like, supposed to be like, is it table service? Is that also part of the confusion?
- [53:44]
Luke Burbank
Well, I. I don't know. I mean, I think maybe I could have ordered. I think I probably. My guess is there was two options. I could have just ordered a breakfast. I could have got, like, bacon and eggs and whatever that they would have brought to me, or I could have opted for the breakfast buffet, which would be kind of like, choose your own adventure. But what was Happening was she was trying to indicate to me that this costs money. And then. And the thing is, I don't eat. I typically don't eat a lot of breakfast. Breakfast. And I was just going for this because it was free.
- [54:14]
Andrew Walsh
Yes.
- [54:15]
Luke Burbank
And because I was like, they do have some healthy options. Or I'll have some fruit, I'll have some scrambled eggs. This will be a pretty good start to my day. But I was not trying to pay $30 for it. But I already had four grapes in the bowl and I was. And people are looking at me because I'm now having this protracted, awkward conversation with this very nice, by the way, server because I'm not understanding what's going on. And now everyone's kind of watching me. And I didn't want to say this because of my insecurity, but I just had to say to her, does this cost money? And she said, yes. And I said. And then I was tempted to just buy it because I didn't want to be embarrassed. Yeah, like, and just be like, yeah, yeah, it costs money. And I'll have all of it. I'll take all of it. But I just went like, well, then I'm gonna not do this. And I go, should I put the grapes back? And she goes, she just looks at me and she says in a very funny way, she goes, I'll let you have the grape. And then I said to her, I go, I just hustled you for four grapes. And then she laughed and then it ended. Okay. But there was this. I almost bought like a twenty plus dollar breakfast buffet so I wouldn't be embarrassed in front of people I don't know by having to ask, does this cost money?
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Andrew Walsh
Yeah. Yeah. Because you and I, neither one of us want to ever seem cheap. Right. Like just generally or like, I don't.
- [55:35]
Luke Burbank
Know what's going on.
- [55:36]
Andrew Walsh
Well, certainly. Yeah, certainly that.
- [55:38]
Luke Burbank
Even though I rarely know what's going.
- [55:40]
Andrew Walsh
On, but I do think that there's something about money for both of us that is like, in the moment. You don't want to be like, how much? How much?
- [55:49]
Luke Burbank
You know, I don't like asking what anything costs.
- [55:51]
Andrew Walsh
How much is if you have to ask, you know, like one of those things. Just kind of like, we never want to seem, like, kind of cheap either. Like, we don't want to spend money or are not gracious with our money and tipping or something like that. And so I could see this moment being very much like, well, the only reason I'm here is because I'm with you. Like that idea of, like, a free breakfast sometimes just hits, right? You know, it's like, oh, yeah, I'll just, I'll just delve into this, this continental.
- [56:13]
Luke Burbank
Oh, my God. I was like, this is amazing that they do this for us, right?
- [56:17]
Andrew Walsh
But then if you're kind of like, hey, listen, directly across the street from the hotel, there's a restaurant that is basically a continental breakfast. And you can pay for food and take what you want and then pay for it. I'd be like, I'm not really interested in breakfast this morning. Not because I'm cheap. It's just like, that doesn't sound good. There's just something about the ide of a hotel breakfast being free. And you're like, I'm just gonna lean into this. And then. But you don't want to be like, well, oh, I have to pay for these grapes. Then I'm out of here. That's the worst. Yeah.
- [56:44]
Luke Burbank
And like, there was something about how the person at the front desk, by the way, again, everybody at this hotel is amazing. Like, they're just, like, really professional, really nice. Like, great staff, great training. But something about the fact that she said, like, you're in luck. That also primed my brain to think I was getting something for free. Yeah, like, you're in luck. The Starbucks is still open. Okay, well, is it daylight? Of course they're open, right? Like, yeah, I'm in luck. I can go pay $20 for this Continental breakfast or whatever. You're in luck.
- [57:12]
Andrew Walsh
This car is yours if you pay me $30,000. I don't know what cars cost.
- [57:19]
Luke Burbank
Oh, a lot more than that now, I believe, because they drive themselves. I'm not happy about. How smart is that? I'm not happy about everything increasing in cost. But I, I, I am feeling some kind of weird because, you know, my whole thing is. This is unrelated to what we intended to talk about for the top story, which was Saturday Night Live being bad.
- [57:38]
Andrew Walsh
Let's save that for tomorrow. I'm gonna read.
- [57:40]
Luke Burbank
Yeah, yeah, let's do that.
- [57:41]
Andrew Walsh
Because I've only seen the headlines and stuff. Let me watch that, and I'll.
- [57:44]
Luke Burbank
And let me re watch it, because I watch. Yeah, I, I actually watched about 70% of it yesterday, and then I just clicked it off because I was so, like, I went into it because of the controversy, and then I watch it on. I was just like, everybody needs. Everybody associated with this just needs to be fired, including Lorne Michaels, which is an unfair standard.
- [58:01]
Andrew Walsh
Cringy. Okay, bottle this for tomorrow.
- [58:06]
Luke Burbank
Anyway.
- [58:07]
Andrew Walsh
Now I'm Sorry I got you off.
- [58:08]
Luke Burbank
Track, but honestly, I think the listeners appreciate it. I think I've jazzed. I've jazzed as hard as somebody needs to jazz.
- [58:15]
Andrew Walsh
I pulled that rug underneath you. You were. You were talking. I said. I. I basically said, stop talking about that. And then you didn't have another vine to go to my ap. Really rough.
- [58:26]
Luke Burbank
I've got to go interview Lars Ulrich.
- [58:28]
Andrew Walsh
Good luck. Anyway, and then you're getting on a plane tonight, and then you're heading and I'm coming home.
- [58:33]
Luke Burbank
And then tomorrow, I'll be at the Madrona Hill studio, which I'm very excited to be. And I. I'll be in. I'll be in my best frame of mind. Hopefully. The Mariners will be fresh off of a win against the Cincinnati Reds against Ellie. What's his name? De la Rosa.
- [58:46]
Andrew Walsh
De La Rosa. Yeah. I'm actually.
- [58:47]
Luke Burbank
That guy is a phenom.
- [58:48]
Andrew Walsh
I know. I'm kind of. I. That's. That's a. That would be a fun team to root for, I think. I don't know much about the Reds, but the Reds, circa 2020, 23, 20, 25, that this era that they're living through seems like a fun team to root.
- [59:02]
Luke Burbank
The Reds have had a couple of eras that have been great. They had the Big Red Machine, which was like the Pete Rose, Joe Morgan era.
- [59:09]
Andrew Walsh
I think I just rewatched the other day of him just, like, taking that.
- [59:14]
Luke Burbank
Guy out in the All Star Game. I don't think that guy was ever right.
- [59:18]
Andrew Walsh
What's the All Star Game where he basically checks that guy like.
- [59:22]
Luke Burbank
Yes. I mean, literally illegal move in current Major League Baseball.
- [59:27]
Andrew Walsh
I believe that it was an All Star. A meaningless All Star Game.
- [59:32]
Luke Burbank
And then they had. Then the Reds had the Nasty Boy era. They had Chris Sabo at third base. They had Rob Dibble. They had Randy Myers. They had, like. They had this, like. And now I guess they're in the De La Cruz era, which is. Which is really fun for them. Yeah. I find them to be a very rootable team and very rootable city, other than the next three games where I hope that the Mariners prevail.
- [59:52]
Andrew Walsh
Mortal enemies now.
- [59:53]
Luke Burbank
Exactly. They're dead to me. So, anyway. All right. I think that's enough for one day. The good news is we will be right back here tomorrow with more imaginary radio for all of you, including a. A takedown of Saturday Night Live's comedy choices. If there's anybody who knows good comedy choices, it's me.
- [60:11]
Andrew Walsh
There's no way I'm getting you to watch making Mr. Right on the airplane. Is there. It's not even probably.
- [60:16]
Luke Burbank
I've already established I'm bad with the down. Stop all the downloading. But me be. I do like this thing that you guys do, which I should understand this intuitively based on all of our conversations, but you are really open to experience when it comes to 1980s movies.
- [60:31]
Andrew Walsh
Oh, yeah, definitely. Just something that sets a mood while you play cards or something.
- [60:35]
Luke Burbank
I like that. I think that's actually a fun way to experience content. I'm. I'm too in my head about it generally. It's like, is this the perfect movie for me at this very moment? Which is way too high of a standard for watching content.
- [60:47]
Andrew Walsh
Yeah, I like the vibe. It's. It's. It's called a midlife crisis.
- [60:52]
Luke Burbank
Let's be honest. Midlife. I keep calling myself middle age. I'm like, that is not accurate, sir. I'm well over the hill. But anyway. All right, thanks for listening, everybody. We'll see you tomorrow. In the meantime, have a great Tuesday, and please remember, no mountain too tall.
- [61:07]
Andrew Walsh
And good luck to all. She is cluttering his progress with useless nonsense, monopolizing very valuable training time with God knows what emotional tics that I have worked to get out of my own personality. She has managed to drum into him overnight.
- [61:38]
Luke Burbank
This morning, Ulysses met me in. In that hall, and he kissed me.
- [61:46]
Andrew Walsh
Right near my mouth.
- [61:48]
Luke Burbank
I guess he likes you, Jeff.
- [61:50]
Andrew Walsh
Power out.