Andrew Walsh (3:02)

To me. It look like a leprechaun to me.

Luke Burbank (3:05)

When the citizens of Mobile, Alabama, specifically the Creighton neighborhood, thought they saw a leprechaun. And. And we're gonna talk about that one of these days. I just promise you we're definitely 100% going to talk to this guy. Though the aforementioned Andrew Walsh, longest running cobra of the show, may be best known for his depictions of the tall ships. He's got big travel plans tomorrow, gentlemen, to bat for.

Andrew Walsh (3:27)

We leave at 9:30. Ish. Ish.

Luke Burbank (3:30)

And he's joining me right now. Good morning, my friend.

Andrew Walsh (3:33)

Good morning, Luke. I wish you could smell me right now. Something I've never said to you before, but boy, do I smell good right now. I spent your intro putting some shea butter infused lotion.

Luke Burbank (3:48)

Seven white people on my hands. You shea butter.

Andrew Walsh (3:51)

So good for you. Then also shout out now this is interesting. This is a new phase of my life. Shout out to the listener on Slack who suggested I'm gonna start sleeping with

Luke Burbank (4:00)

one of those kind of head coverings, that silk that keeps your hair in order.

Andrew Walsh (4:05)

We'll see where that goes. But shout out to the listener on Slack who suggested that I grab some cuticle butter from Burt's Bees. I've never been a Burt's Bees guy.

Luke Burbank (4:15)

Cuticle butter. Well, the thing is, it's butter made out of cuticles. That sounds disgusting.

Andrew Walsh (4:20)

It's actually very tasty. It's good. It goes. It's like truffle butter. Like you don't use a lot of it. You know what I mean? It's gonna kind of a little goes a long way. I don't actually have issues with my cuticles themselves, but I told you on the show the other day that I'm getting a lot of dry, like breaks in my skin right at the tip of my thumb.

Luke Burbank (4:41)

We call it Bob fingers.

Andrew Walsh (4:42)

We call them Bob Walsh thumbs. Yeah, because I used to think it was because he was working so hard every day. Maybe he, like me, was just washing dishes in the winter too much. I don't know. But it was really, really painful. Really painful. And somebody said, Burt's Bees. Lemon butter cuticle cream.

Luke Burbank (4:58)

Oh, you're going lemon butter.

Andrew Walsh (5:00)

I mean, it's all they have. But it's smell. I got it from Grove Co. Smells wonderful. And honestly, between the shea butter, the lemon butter, like, I smell fantastic. This whole room and I got some fresh coffee in here. It's all intermingling. If you were to. If you were to stop by right now and walk into my office, it would smell so inviting.

Luke Burbank (5:22)

I am so jealous of the last part. Well, first of all, I love all of this for you. And I know this isn't.

Andrew Walsh (5:28)

Maybe.

Luke Burbank (5:28)

I don't know if you would file this under the category of, like, self care or pampering yourself, but I love that you're doing this for yourself. And I should start doing a little bit of it more. Just kind of like, you know, I bought some, like, a while ago, I bought some, like, moisturizer, you know, and I thought maybe before I go to bed, I'll just throw a little moisturizer on and just kind of try to keep things hydrated. And the few times that I've done it, it's felt very. Like, it's very calming, very relaxing, very. Just kind of like, hey, I'm glad I did that. Or even something like, I got a pedicure. Becca and I got pedicures a while ago. Now, to be honest with you, that didn't turn out great for anybody involved. I was very. I'm very ticklish. And the other problem was the person doing the pedicure, who I have an extreme amount of. Like, I really am trying to constantly signal that I do not think I am a superior human, even though I'm sitting on a literal throne while they're literally kneeling at my feet doing a thing on my. On my toes. I kept reminding myself, this is the job these folks do. You're gonna tip them a lot and just maintain eye contact and be friendly and let's get through this together. But the thing was, the woman, I think, didn't want to cause me any pain. And so she didn't do the. I do this crazy thing where I. Not to be gross, but particularly on my. My two, like, big toes. I kind of clip my toenails at the edges in a certain way so that they won't become ingrown. Because with the jogging and stuff, that can be a problem. She didn't go quite as hard on that. Kind of clipping the edges of them kind of down a bit, because again, she didn't want me to be in pain. And so then I had to end up doing that later on. But all my point is just like

Andrew Walsh (7:13)

2 stars out of 10.

Luke Burbank (7:16)

Yelp review of a lifetime.

Andrew Walsh (7:18)

Exactly. We'll be hearing.

Luke Burbank (7:20)

Let's talk more about coffee because I'm really jealous that you have an ample supply of coffee in your house. Because guess what happened to me this morning, Andrew? I came out here to the studio. I brought this coffee carafe thermos, this thing that. My coffee is made in a coffee pot. It's a stainless steel coffee pot, but very insulated. I guess I don't know why I feel the need to. To clarify that other than to say you can't see how much coffee's in here. It's. It's opaque. It's stainless steel. And this morning I made coffee, and then I got distracted doing other things. And then I came out here and I did my little jog, and then I was just dealing with various things, and then I took my shower and then it was time to do the show. And then I got all my stuff, I grabbed the coffee pot, and I came out here and there's no coffee in the coffee pot because the two feral raccoons that have been living at my house on and off this week drank all of the coffee.

Andrew Walsh (8:22)

So you mean the. The beans. You were out of beans or ground coffee or.

Luke Burbank (8:26)

I made coffee.

Andrew Walsh (8:27)

You made it, and they drank the whole pot. Oh, they.

Luke Burbank (8:30)

My parents drank all of the coffee.

Andrew Walsh (8:34)

The coffee that you had made for yourself.

Luke Burbank (8:36)

That I had. That I had, you know, lovingly prepared for myself. That's. Okay, listen, I'm slightly exaggerating. I did have like a half of a sip of coffee this morning. I made the coffee. I poured like a. Not even a third of a cup, and I put a little splash of half and half in there. And I had like two sips while I was chatting with my dad at like 7:30 this morning. And then I went about the rest of my morning and then only revisited. I was really excited to have a nice piping hot cup of coffee while talking to you this morning, Andrew. And. And there's no coffee in there. But it's. The thing is, it wasn't in the sink. It wasn't like the top was off.

Andrew Walsh (9:13)

It was sitting back.

Luke Burbank (9:14)

It was sitting in the coffee machine where, like, if that's where this thing sits when it still has coffee in it, that's. That's the agreed upon. Agreed upon?

Andrew Walsh (9:26)

Yeah. No, if it's sitting in there and you've made Coffee. You assume that there's still coffee in there for you. I agree. Now you have cough. Do you want to pause? Do you want to make some fresh coffee for yourself? That might be.

Luke Burbank (9:38)

Email me some.

Andrew Walsh (9:39)

Could I email you some maybe when we get to the break before the donors.

Luke Burbank (9:43)

I'm fine. I mean, honestly, complaining about it has given me the jolt that caffeine would have. That's so I.

Andrew Walsh (9:49)

Better than coffee.

Luke Burbank (9:50)

You know how it is. You just kind of get it in your mind. Well, I'll be honest with you, Andrew. This is really part of a larger. I talk a lot on the show about my little sort of my coat hook moments. My little moments where things I look forward to for weird reasons that are specific to me, but I get excited about these little moments playing out. And one of these little moments actually was it had. It had. 80% of it had played out this morning. The last 20% was the coffee.

Andrew Walsh (10:17)

Yeah.

Luke Burbank (10:17)

But here was the first 80%. I now have, Andrew, a very nice looking and functioning undermount sink here in the kitchen island of the Madrona Hill studio. And what that means is I no longer have to wash my coffee cups in the bathroom sink. And by wash, because I never fully wanted to acknowledge the reality of the situation. I didn't even have like, I didn't bring in like dish soap or, you know, a sponge or anything. I didn't have proper equipment in the bathroom of the Madrona Hill studio. I would just, after I got done with the show, I would take my coffee cup in there, ball up some toilet paper.

Andrew Walsh (10:58)

You roll up some toilet paper on your.

Luke Burbank (10:59)

Or just find some on the floor,

Andrew Walsh (11:01)

get it nice and wet. Wet, wet toilet paper. Yeah, I'm with you.

Luke Burbank (11:05)

No, no coffin for me. Just wet, wet toilet paper.

Andrew Walsh (11:08)

Because we know how toilet paper, how, how well it reacts to wetness.

Luke Burbank (11:12)

And I would just like run the water. By the way, there was no hot water in here, even though I have paid years ago for this very expensive and very technically advanced thing. It's like an instant on hot water tank. Are you familiar with these?

Andrew Walsh (11:26)

No, it's.

Luke Burbank (11:27)

It basically just means that you can have hot water in your, your house or your apartment or whatever, but you don't have a big tank that's full of water that's being warmed all the time. It. This thing is so powerful that as the cold water comes into it, it instantaneously turns the water hot and then sends it out to, you know, whatever you're doing. Point is, I had only cold. We had never. It was installed, but not Hooked up. I had only cold water in the bathroom sink and none of the proper. I would just dump the coffee out. What was left over. I would run the cold water. I would use my hand to kind of just mostly clean it. Just on a visual basis. This was. There's no antibacterial happening. None of the real work of cleaning a cup was happening here. But. And then I would put it upside down on. And I had a few of these cups just on like a little kind of hand towel that had just been sitting in there for whenever. From whenever. Well, when the sink was fully completed yesterday and fully operational, I came out here and I got. Oh, by the way, I did find a Scrub Mommy under the sink in the. In the main house.

Andrew Walsh (12:31)

Not a mini, though. You like the minis. You like the scrub babies.

Luke Burbank (12:34)

What about mommies? How do those fit in those? Those aren't the ones I was getting from.

Andrew Walsh (12:39)

Mommies are full size, but they're soft on one side and. And, you know, traditional Scrub Daddy on the back.

Luke Burbank (12:46)

That also applies to real mommies.

Andrew Walsh (12:47)

Well, that's.

Luke Burbank (12:48)

They're full size, but they're soft on one side.

Andrew Walsh (12:50)

That's why that's. It is interesting. I. When I start to break down, like, what they're going for with gender and the whole scrub universe, but just kind of leave.

Luke Burbank (12:59)

If you get into some kind of legal trouble, you better hope Scrub Mommy answers the phone and kind of is the one running a little interference with Scrub Daddy.

Andrew Walsh (13:07)

But I think the thing. And I've never. I've actually looked for these. I. I thought I would surprise you sometime with buying. Said that used to stay in some hotels. I know we talked about this recently.

Luke Burbank (13:16)

Yeah.

Andrew Walsh (13:17)

The res. They had. I think they called them Scrub Baby. Baby. Is that what they call it? Or Scrub Junior.

Luke Burbank (13:21)

Scrub Junior, Yeah.

Andrew Walsh (13:22)

Scrub Baby, I think. I don't know, it sounds like it would be maybe creamy. Yeah. What about. Exactly.

Luke Burbank (13:31)

Let's stop joking there.

Andrew Walsh (13:31)

Let's be.

Luke Burbank (13:32)

I think I stopped right at the right spot.

Andrew Walsh (13:35)

Yes. We're gonna get all the way down to scrub Zygote. But yeah, I. So. But I don't think the things that you like these little mini guys, I don't think they're for sale to the rep market. Yeah. So you found gold, huh? You found a mini?

Luke Burbank (13:49)

I did. And in fact, you know, that's a good reminder to me that the next time I'm looking at various hotels and in an area, if I see a residence in as one of the ones that, like, for instance, CBS is approving for me to stay at. Maybe that pushes me in that direction. Just on the chance of getting my hands on some sweet, sweet scrub. Scrub Babies. Scrub Juniors. But all of that is to say I brought. Last night, I came out. I brought out the dish. I have my Mrs. Meyers dish soap. I had a scrub Mommy that was still in the package, was under my sink. I had some garbage, you know, like, kitchen garbage bags. And I got the little kitchen area all set up, and I washed. I properly washed the cups, and I put them on this really cool drying rack that, like, came with the sink. That's, like, kind of a. Anyway, it's.

Andrew Walsh (14:37)

It's a cool.

Luke Burbank (14:38)

It's a cool. It's. You roll it out. It's flat, but it's got these bars. And then, like, it's kind of padded on the end. I put a dish towel under it. I just was, like, really excited about this scene. And I washed all the cups and I stacked them up, and I kind of organized some of the kitchen area. And I. I really think part of my excitement about the coffee this morning was that I was going to have my coffee, Andrew, in this cup. This. I feel strangely confident today. Snoopy and Charlie Brown cup.

Andrew Walsh (15:05)

What do we say that material is?

Luke Burbank (15:06)

Milk glass.

Andrew Walsh (15:07)

Milk glass, yeah. Very classic.

Luke Burbank (15:10)

And like, for the first time in, I'm going to say, a couple of years, well, since the opening of the Madrona Hill studio for business, for podcasting, I was gonna have my coffee out of this cup that had been properly washed and dried. And I was excited about that moment. And then when I went to pour the coffee in and there was none, that moment was ruined for me.

Andrew Walsh (15:33)

Well, I can maybe turn that frown a little bit upside down because. Do you have the breaking news Sounder, by any chance? Because we're gonna need the break canoes Sounder.

Luke Burbank (15:42)

Yeah.

Andrew Walsh (15:43)

And we're gonna need you to check your TVTL breaking news text messages on your phone at the same time. Because I just sent you something that says, guess what's back. Vanessa's Scrub Babies. These sponges were developed and designed for our Scrub Daddy Scrub Mommy users with smaller hands. The power of Scrub Daddy and Scrub Mommy in a smaller size. And it is called Scrub.

Luke Burbank (16:05)

The power of Scrub Daddy compels you.

Andrew Walsh (16:07)

It does say Scrub Daddy, Scrub Babies. So I'm thinking this is the s. I've never seen these irl, so I can't guarantee these are the same, like, level ones, but, I mean, and they're affordable, by the way. You can get two of these things for about Nine bucks. Which seems about right. They'll last you for a little bit. Go. Go to it. Make all your dreams come true today.

Luke Burbank (16:29)

Yeah, well, I'm actually pretty psyched about this scrub mommy. Which again, I was confused about the. About the whereabouts or origins of it, but like it.

Andrew Walsh (16:36)

Oh wait, you do have a. So wait, I'm a little confused.

Luke Burbank (16:38)

I've got a mommy in here.

Andrew Walsh (16:39)

It is a mommy. So it's full size, just soft on one side, scrubby on the other.

Luke Burbank (16:42)

Full size but soft on the other side.

Andrew Walsh (16:43)

Oh, okay. Gotcha. Exact.

Luke Burbank (16:45)

Maybe.

Andrew Walsh (16:45)

So do you still feel the appeal of the baby ones though? You liked those baby ones.

Luke Burbank (16:49)

And I did like them at the time. Maybe moved on. I think I may have aged out.

Andrew Walsh (16:55)

I'm sorry. Well, you've aged out of babies. You know what? There are worse things. There are worse things. I misunderstood that. I thought you were still on this sort of Sisyphean, you know, journey to try to find these tiny guys.

Luke Burbank (17:08)

But what I'm saying is if I'm staying at a residence inn and I see one there in the kitchenette, I'm not, not gonna throw it in my bag.

Andrew Walsh (17:16)

But you're not. You're not going to scrub daddy mommy.com backslash babymommy. By the way, speaking of buying things, I am about to hit go on something here. Except maybe I should wait until I'm back from Hawaii so I'm not getting packages when I'm gone. Not that it's a big deal, but you mentioned that it's spring and we've been talking about coffee. That is when a middle aged man's thoughts turn to coffee shandies from Broadcast Coffee. And I'm looking at. This is the. And I'll be honest with you, it

Luke Burbank (17:48)

is the first day of spring. Andrew.

Andrew Walsh (17:50)

Exactly. And I think our friend Barry, of course, Barry of Broadcast Coffee is why we call him Broadcast Barry.

Luke Burbank (17:55)

Yeah, he's of so much more now. He's of Black Moon Pizza and Anessa.

Andrew Walsh (18:00)

And I was going to call him Black Moon Barry, but I think we're going to stick with Broadcast Barry.

Luke Burbank (18:05)

Black Moon Barry sounds like he has been rustling horses in the west and we're afraid of him coming into the saloon.

Andrew Walsh (18:12)

That's. You're probably right.

Luke Burbank (18:13)

You know, Black Moon Berries coming.

Andrew Walsh (18:15)

When you said wrestling, though, I saw it more as a alligator. Like alligator wrestling. Like from the swamps. Like Here comes Black and a guy

Luke Burbank (18:23)

that Lana Del Rey would like.

Andrew Walsh (18:25)

Sure, Most likely. Right, Exactly.

Luke Burbank (18:28)

I think her husband's named Black Moon.

Andrew Walsh (18:30)

I think I just Got frame mocked by Black Moon.

Luke Burbank (18:34)

Brutally frame mod by Black Moon.

Andrew Walsh (18:35)

Barry, it's been rough over here, but yeah, Barry sent us some cans of iced coffee, which you can buy at Broadcast Coffee. Is it broadcast coffee.com? i believe that's the. The website I'm on there now.

Luke Burbank (18:46)

I'm gonna sign that.

Andrew Walsh (18:47)

But anyway. But some of them are also. So if you know what an Arnold Palmer is, and I think most people do, he was a golfer. But it's also the name of a beverage that is half.

Luke Burbank (18:56)

That is Broadcast Coffee Roasters dot com.

Andrew Walsh (18:59)

Oh, Broadcast Coffee Roasters dot com. Thanks for the clearance on, because I'm already on the checkout page, so it sort of messed up what the URL looks like for me. But so if you know an Arnold Palmer half lemonade, half iced tea, this is replacing the iced tea with iced coffee. So it's half lemonade, half coffee. It is a distinct flavor. The first time I drank one of these, I thought I was just opening up a regular can of iced coffee. And it was shocking to me. But I remember where I was. It was going to be my shower iced coffee. I had just gotten done working in the yard. I had gotten a pint glass. I had my round ice in there, and I had poured the iced coffee, which turned out to be an iced shandy over the ice. And I was getting in the. The shower and I was so excited about this. And it just, it, this taste sensation just blew me away. I looked at the can, I was like, oh, my goodness. This isn't just coffee. This is a coffee shandy. I had to look it up. And I just, I made my own, like, really poor man's versions of these throughout the summer. Just taking like, you know, cold coffee and mixing it with like, literally the. What is the Old Time Lemonade? Is that the brand of powdered lemonade that I usually volunteer?

Luke Burbank (20:12)

Goodness.

Andrew Walsh (20:12)

Country time. Country time.

Luke Burbank (20:13)

Country time.

Andrew Walsh (20:14)

Yeah. I always have country time lemonade here during the summertime for my volunteer work. So I would mix some of that up and make my own. But I mean, nothing beats the real thing. And you're right. Like, by the time I'm back from Hawaii, I think that real spring will have kicked in. It's going to start feeling very summery, and we're going to get close to shandy time. Andy's Love Shandies.

Luke Burbank (20:35)

I think the first. This came up last time we discussed these, but I think the first. First time. And I could have been misunderstanding it at the, at the very beginning of this, but I think the first time. Are there shandies that also do have, like, beer in them or alcohol does shandy, or am I just thinking of a rattler as a sh. Does a shandy ever have an alcoholic component?

Andrew Walsh (20:58)

I don't know. Maybe. If the. Maybe. I'm totally guessing here. I don't know. I would guess that maybe a beer shandy would be lemonade and beer, and so beer would be the component.

Luke Burbank (21:08)

A shandy is a refreshing beer cocktail, typically 50, 60, 40. Mix of light beer and citrus mixer, like lemonade. So you're totally right. So the first time I heard of a shandy, it was a. It was a beer thing. And so when we got those, because Barry was nice enough to send us some of those, I was like, well, I'm gonna. I need to really wait until I'm in the right frame of mind for this. Like, you know, I need to. I'm kicking back or whatever, because this is essentially a beer. And then I remember you telling me, like, yeah, I had one in the shower. It was amazing. And I was like, should we check on Andrew? Is he okay? But that's. I've always. I've always thought of them as an alcohol product, but as we've learned from Bear, they don't have to be. No, I guess the shanding is the mixing of something and the citrus. Right?

Andrew Walsh (21:47)

Is that. I guess so. So, I mean, I'm kind of learning. I don't know that I ever played in the shandy space before. I kind of had this thing. But there are very few food and drinks in my life, or at least putting myself on the spot here, that I can remember the first time I tasted it, and it had that kind of an impact on me. Right. And now I'm so looking forward to it. And I didn't get any during the winter because that just. I don't want to delude the experience, you know?

Luke Burbank (22:12)

No, it's like, you listen, now you're speaking my language of this kind of. I don't want to say weird, but this, like, not depriving yourself, but just setting up very kind of hard and fast rules around enjoying certain things, because those are the things we enjoy during this part of the year and not that part of the year. And the enjoyment of them for me is increased by the fact that I don't have that in the wintertime. I have that in the spring and the summertime. Now, would you consider ordering a shandy? Getting a shandy when you're in Hawaii, which is a very typically warm and tropical place, and by the way, how are you feeling about this? You've got. You got this trip coming up tomorrow, I guess. Would this fall into the category of big weekend plans?

Andrew Walsh (22:53)

I am actually not heading out tomorrow, heading out on Sunday.

Luke Burbank (22:58)

Oh, okay. Well, that's still part of the weekend.

Andrew Walsh (23:01)

The biggest one I've ever. Yeah. I think our flight is kind of midday, but even Genevieve, who runs very much like you when it comes to airport travel, is saying that we should be leaving ourselves a lot of time at the airport after hearing a lot of horror stories regarding getting through security during this partial shutdown situation. And so you definitely don't want to be, you know, stuck back here while we watch our plane fly off to Hawaii without us. So we'll be getting to the airport, I think, pretty early, probably. I think our flight's at noon. We'll probably get there around 6, 7 in the morning. No, I'm not sure. But it is a midday flight, so that is the good thing. I think both our flight there and back are, like, ridiculously comfortable. Exactly what I like, not having to wake up super early to catch a flight.

Luke Burbank (23:50)

But also 7am Like, I'm flying out on Sunday to go to Florida.

Andrew Walsh (23:53)

That's your flight. Takeoff time, 7:00am yeah. So getting, you know, for me, that would mean getting to the airport around 5. I know that you don't do it quite that excessively, but.

Luke Burbank (24:02)

No, dude, like, I'm with you on this. Like, it is. It looks like. It looks. It looks very, you know, sort of dicey out there. And like, when I'm. I probably won't get there at five, but I'm not going to get there at six, if that makes any sense. You know, I'm equally scared about this.

Andrew Walsh (24:18)

Yeah. So I am. So I love that we got these flights. Genevieve booked these flights, and they're just sort of perfect because the other side of that coin as well, we're taking a flight that is at like, I don't know, four or five, six in the afternoon or evening. Well, then that leaves you in this position where you're waiting around all day for your flight, especially if you're already on vacation. Like, we've had to do this a few times where it's like we're checking out of the hotel or wherever we're staying at 11am and now we have six, count them, six hours just to kick around and wait for our time to go to the airport. So anyway, all the travel looks pretty comfortable, God willing. And the creeks don't rise, as you like to say. And yeah, by hopefully. Oh, and the time change works in our favor.

Luke Burbank (25:01)

That really works in your favor, heading out there.

Andrew Walsh (25:03)

Yeah. So I'll. We should be arriving around one in the afternoon or something on Saturday, I think, or I'm sorry, on Sunday, which will still give us plenty of like, sort of that. And that's a great time to arrive on vacation too. I think like midday. You don't have a full vacation day ahead of you. You can, you can unpack, you can kind of get settled, but there's still time to go to the beach. You know, you still get that sunset or whatever. Yeah, I'm looking forward to the.

Luke Burbank (25:27)

So you've got tomorrow to like, pack and get ready to go and everything. And then I'm guessing you also did. You were able to negotiate a buffer day on the way back.

Andrew Walsh (25:35)

I think we're flying back either Saturday or. Yeah, Yeah, I think we're flying back on Saturday, which means I have all day Sunday. Yeah.

Luke Burbank (25:42)

Good, good. Yeah, I, I've, you know, I. Obviously, I. Well, it's funny that I say this because I have historically been, you know, the kind of person who, if I'm coming back from a trip or if I'm going on a trip and I'm excited about the trip, it's a vacation, you know, I'm like, I'd rather just, you know, have Sunday there, wherever we are, and I'd rather get to enjoy the day and then fly home and then I'll just get, you know, hit the hay when I get home, etc. You're more of a get back maybe a day before and then have a day to kind of reintegrate, decompress, do all that stuff. That is very much how Becca is wired. And now as a result of traveling with her and knowing that, like, that's her preference. So if I'm the one booking the travel, which is how it tends to go, I will now, I tend to go towards that because I just know that I could push it. I could be like, sorry, that's what we're doing. But I also know that's going to stress her out. I think I'm starting to kind of ever so slightly come over to the buffer day side of things.

Andrew Walsh (26:37)

They're wonderful days. First of all, one thing for me is whenever I get home, no matter how late at night or middle of the day or whatever, I will fully unpack my bag. Like, I do not like to let it set 100%. Oh, I thought I was gonna say your move. I like. You get everything out of There you get a load of laundry running immediately you're washing all your vacation clothes and then you're just like puttering around. I mean, maybe you pop yourself a little gummy or something, put some Columbo on the TV and just put everything back to where it came from.

Luke Burbank (27:12)

We close the things that close.

Andrew Walsh (27:14)

Close the things that close.

Luke Burbank (27:16)

Yeah. Cause like we're gonna be. And by the way, we're still gonna be doing shows next week. We've. We've got a bunch of great, A bunch of great programming, everybody involving me and Andrew and some special guests and it's gonna be a good week of shows. But. But I'm gonna be. And I'm gonna be doing the Monday show from Florida.

Andrew Walsh (27:34)

Why are you in Florida? Just vacationing as well.

Luke Burbank (27:36)

I'm doing a TV story about this guy in Coco beach who is an opera singer by training. But the opera work is a little slow down there in the Greater Orlando area. And so he had to get kind of a day job and it is selling used cars. And at some point he decided, why don't I bring together my two passions? And so he's been doing these local car commercials where he sings opera in them and they've become a hit in that part of Florida. So I'm going to go, go talk to this guy. I'm gonna go out on the car lot with him. I'm gonna get to experience this opera singer turned car salesman in Florida. But. But then I'm gonna come up to Seattle. Becca's gonna come meet me, and then we're gonna hang out in Seattle for a few days and go to opening day for the Mariners and all that.

Andrew Walsh (28:22)

Oh, so Becca is not going to Florida with you. This is a work only thing.

Luke Burbank (28:26)

This is a work only thing.

Andrew Walsh (28:27)

Okay.

Luke Burbank (28:28)

I'm gonna be. I'm gonna be doing TBTL and, and filming stuff most of the days. It's also listen. And we've probably got listeners that live down in this area. It's. You know what it really came down to, like back to the hotel stuff. I don't know if you've heard, Andrew. It's a tumultuous time at the Columbia Broadcast System, AKA cbs. And they have.

Andrew Walsh (28:48)

Wait. Whiskey Fridays are locked in though, right?

Luke Burbank (28:51)

That's a non negotiation.

Andrew Walsh (28:52)

Okay, good.

Luke Burbank (28:53)

Shandy Fridays remain Shandy locked in. Chander days. That's on. That's on the chopping block. Chandra days are being, are being eliminated. Whiskey Friday is still. It's still happening. But. And so like I was, I was, I was kind of I was really sort of shocked when I. Because it's like, it's Florida, you know, and it's like, hey, well, that could be kind of fun. And in the, my earlier days of doing these TV stories, I was pleasantly surprised often at the, what the selection of hotels were that CBS or Paramount or now Skydance had negotiated these rates with. Sometimes they were pretty nice hotels. Kind of a fun thing to get to go to a new town and stay in a nice place. Well, they have really. I don't know if they've stopped negotiating properly or if they just like. It is not uncommon now to be going somewhere and to. Let's just say the city is Cocoa Beach, Florida and there are no hotels within 20 or 30 miles that are available at the price point that CBS is willing to authorize.

Andrew Walsh (29:52)

Okay.

Luke Burbank (29:53)

You know what I mean?

Andrew Walsh (29:53)

Yeah. I didn't know where Cocoa beach was and so I immediately looked it up on the map and I didn't realize that it's right. It's on the Cape there, right above Cape Cape Canaveral or right.

Luke Burbank (30:02)

Yeah, it's right by like the Space coast or whatever.

Andrew Walsh (30:04)

So this is like a pretty, pretty nice place to stay, I would guess, if you were vacationing and not working or not. Is it more of a, an industry area?

Luke Burbank (30:13)

I've never, well, here's the thing. I've never been there, so I don't think. My sense is that, you know, the entire sort of Atlantic and I would guess Gulf of Mexico coasts of Florida are nice places to be and have some nice hotels. I don't think this is, you know, West Palm Beach. I don't think it's the toniest area of the Florida coast. But I also don't think it's, you know, I, I'm not going to name any city or area because then that will be offensive to people over there. But yeah, the point is I was like, I was like, I'm gonna be staying, you know, at like, like the, you know, the, the roadway in, in, you know, in Kissimmee or something. Like, I could not find a hotel that was approved that was like anywhere near the beach or that was kind of above like a two star. And maybe this speaks to my intense privilege and how spoiled I've been, but really when I looked it over and I figured out also the itinerary and the schedule which is going to be kind of fly in, do a bunch of stuff, fly out. All this is to say, I said to Becca, I don't think this is going to be like a Super fun. This isn't going to be a fun Florida vacation. Also, side note, we were just in Miami like a month ago. That was a super fun Florida vacation. So. So anyway, we're meeting in Seattle. This is a long way of me saying I decided, oh yeah, we should probably. We're going to come back on Saturday instead of Sunday because I. I self reported. I self reported to jail. To buffer day. Jail. I literally was one that was like, yeah, I could probably use a buffer day. I could probably use that Sunday back home. Kind of just get everything in order, probably do some yard low key, probably do some yard work and be ready for Monday morning. So that's a very, very time consuming way for me to say, I think I may have seen the light on the buffer day thing.

Andrew Walsh (31:53)

Speaking of yard work, though, you've triggered me a little bit and you don't owe me an apology for that. There is no way for you to know that you were triggering me, but you did trigger me. And I want that on the record because we are getting near yard work season and I do think that Veavs and I. I don't know if this is just occurring to me now, but I think we might have an accidental tradition of taking trips around this time, maybe near the end of winter, because I do feel that. And this doesn't even apply to our time in Seattle only, but also maybe in New Hampshire, that we would maybe go on a trip and then come back and. And spring is sprung sort of. God, I wish I had sound for that. Like what is. Yes, actually, something like that. I'm glad you have that. But anyway, and so I'm kind of ready when, you know, when I get back to be drinking shandies and mowing the lawn and everything. But Luke, because of all this work that's going on in our house and around our house, our garage is basically unpassable right now. It's still got just a lot of big, heavy wood in there and all kinds of like tools and equipment. And the lawnmower is the way in the back.

Luke Burbank (32:57)

Now about borrow one from your across the street neighbor. Yeah, right, the sign enthusiast.

Andrew Walsh (33:02)

Yeah, exactly. You'll throw it in the middle of the street. But anyway, I was looking in there yesterday because about three weeks ago there was some there. There was some very long grass that honestly I should have trimmed before winter set in that had been kind of driving me crazy all year. And then when we had some nice weather a little while ago, I was like, this cannot stand anymore. It was looking really bad. It's Right outside my window here. So I actually spent a day, I think you spen a day doing some real yard work. I spent a day sort of getting things in order and getting the. What we like to now call a whipper snipper or a weed eater, as I called it growing up that I was able to get access to. And so I did some really good cleaning up of the stuff that needed to be cleaning up. Everything is fine in the yard right now. But I did have a moment of panic. And this is a. This is a problem in my life where I am, as Genevieve would say, maybe borrowing trouble, or as my friend Aaron would say, forward tripping or something like that. Like future tripping. Future tripping. Like, everything is fine. Everything is fine right now. But I was standing in the garage getting kind of an uncomfortable feeling, my heart rate going up a little bit, looking at how inaccessible my lawnmower is and all of the things that I would need to mow the lawn and thinking, I'm going to need to mow the lawn at some point. What will the condition of my garage be at that point in the future? What if my dog doesn't like the

Luke Burbank (34:18)

sound of the lawnmower?

Andrew Walsh (34:19)

What if my dog doesn't like the sound of the lawnmower? We have to sell the house so that me and the dog can go on the road together with little bindles and ride the rails. That's pretty cool. Yeah.

Luke Burbank (34:29)

That mad about that.

Andrew Walsh (34:30)

But do you think I'd be good at riding the rails? That's probably a lifestyle that'd be good for me. How many showers do they have on those boxcars?

Luke Burbank (34:37)

Okay, that part would be hard for you. But you impressed me, Andrew, with our hitchhiking trip that we did in the Midwest. You were game for that, and you were out there on the side of the road. You made a good sign. Granted, we were not as successful at the hitchhiking as we wanted to be be. But you were up for that. You showed me that you. You could be. You could ride the rails.

Andrew Walsh (34:59)

Well, you know, are we.

Luke Burbank (35:00)

Do we say. We don't say hobo anymore?

Andrew Walsh (35:04)

I guess not. Yes.

Luke Burbank (35:05)

Do we say hobosexual? When a woman finds out that the guy who's been crashing with her and is her boyfriend actually is just kind of a shady guy? Because I. I think that's one of the greatest. One of the greatest things that's actually out there.

Andrew Walsh (35:17)

That's. That's a. That's a term.

Luke Burbank (35:18)

I didn't make that up. It's basically like. Like Women comparing notes on like they meet a guy. I've got a. Andrew, could you imagine if I have a specific guy in mind who might fit this bill? Like basically the women comparing notes on like meeting a guy and like you hit it off and maybe you start dating and he's kind of in between places or he's, he's, it's, there's just some kind of mystery around it and he's kind of like he stays at your house a couple of times and then suddenly he kind of. It's kind of living with you kind of couch surfing, but at your place. And then his bad. His stuff is here. And then you realize at some point he's a hobosexual. He just, he just stealth moved into

Andrew Walsh (35:54)

my place and he doesn't, he doesn't

Luke Burbank (35:55)

have, he never had a place and he didn't let me know that. And now here he is. Anyway, I don't know if we're allowed to say hobo anymore. I'm not allowed to, but I don't

Andrew Walsh (36:04)

know if that's John.

Luke Burbank (36:04)

Proper nomenclature. Right.

Andrew Walsh (36:06)

I know he's a guy who really

Luke Burbank (36:07)

an entire, an entire literary career built on it.

Andrew Walsh (36:10)

Yeah. But anyway, yeah, I was gonna say though, I'll figure out the lawnmower situation. I just. You brought that up. And it reminded me of that moment of panic that I had yesterday.

Luke Burbank (36:20)

I mean, I'm starting to wonder if. And we've got lots to talk about today, including the full story on the Dream Kid. But like, I'm starting to wonder if Elon Musk's dreams of an electric future are a little overblown. Andrew. And by that I mean, you know how I love my electric riding mower, my Ryobi. I've even learned how to change the blades on it. I now have a. Oh, by the way, my tire inflation. Remember I bought like a rechargeable little tiny air compressor, worked like a charm. Just absolutely pumped up those tires on my riding lawnmower very effectively. But I'm wondering if it has. Here's the thing. All of my neighbors. Well, that's not true. Two of my neighbors have riding lawnmowers and they of course have the gas powered car kind. And it seems to me like they've got more torque thrust. Like I never see them. Like I have to do a lot of babying of this, of this riding mower when the grass is long and wet as it is right now I'm looking out at my yard as I so often am and like I have to be really Strategic about how I. So if the lawn is too long, what I have to do is start off and try to mow it at like maybe three inches.

Andrew Walsh (37:35)

Yeah, good.

Luke Burbank (37:35)

You can change. You kind of change the.

Andrew Walsh (37:37)

The.

Luke Burbank (37:38)

And it's barely making a difference, but it's taking it down enough that it's kind of like then. Then I can do the whole lot at 3 inches. But now my battery power is kind of getting pretty low. So then I've got to recharge it a little bit and maybe come back and hit it at like 2 inches.

Andrew Walsh (37:52)

One battery.

Luke Burbank (37:53)

I have one battery. It's not even. I mean, it's. Maybe you could take it out. I've never even seen the battery. It seems like it's very integrated into the. It's not.

Andrew Walsh (38:00)

Oh, you plug the whole damn car in or the whole.

Luke Burbank (38:03)

You plug the whole damn mower into a. To a charging thing. It's not, not. It's not part. Even though it is a Ryobi. It's not one of those things where I can take a battery out and plug it in. It's kind of part of the deal. And like, you know, and what I realized is it's like the things that are great about it is it's environmentally better, it's quiet. But things that are less good about it is I don't think it's as effective. It's just a good old fashioned Toro that's gas guzzling. And so, I mean, I'm not. Listen, I'm gonna. I'm going to keep riding this ryobi until it stops working. I'm not about to change to a gas powered one, but I am. I wonder if it was one of those things where like I got on the. I jumped on the electric riding mower train a little before they had fully like. I bet you if you buy one right now, it's a lot better than the.

Andrew Walsh (38:48)

Yeah, I was going to say. I'm pretty surprised to hear that, to be honest with you. The charging thing is the charging thing. And in fact, even my little push mower. And we're talking about very different lawn care situations here. But even my push mower, it only has one battery and it usually does not quite make it through the entire yard that I need to do. But what I'll do is I'll take that battery out and then charge it when it's getting low. And then I'll switch to weed eating for a while, which is also an electric thing. And I only have one battery for that. So then I'll Weed, eat for a while or whip or snip, whatever. We're inclusive here. It's a big tent and then while the other one's charging and then kind of go back and forth. But this year I think I'm going to get a second battery for mine because batteries, you know, the longer they're in existence distance, the less of a charge they hold. And I think that that's going to make a huge difference in my lawn mowing if I'm ever able to access my lawnmower again.

Luke Burbank (39:38)

So worth it. I mean for the other stuff that I have, all everything else in the Ryobi family of products I have, they all use the same. I think it's like maybe 40 volt battery and I've got like four chargers that are just charging those 40 volts sort of constantly. So those ones are great. The thing is that yeah, the lawnmower needs like, like a. Something that's more substantial.

Andrew Walsh (39:59)

But the problem is not. I, and I hate to say this, I say this, it's going to sound accusatory. I think the problem is you're not a real people and you didn't steal people.

Luke Burbank (40:10)

No.

Andrew Walsh (40:10)

You went with Ryobi.

Luke Burbank (40:12)

Yeah. No, I mean I, I was just worried about going to prison for life for stealing people stealing people. I just thought it wasn't worth it. For mowing the lawn, we are really

Andrew Walsh (40:22)

getting into real people steal people territory. That's another thing along it's almost real

Luke Burbank (40:27)

people steal people time of year.

Andrew Walsh (40:29)

Exactly. Along with coffee shin. It's the time of year where a middle aged man's thoughts turn to real people stealing people and coffee shandies. Because Steel, the power equipment company is a big underwriter of your Seattle Mariners. And so there's a lot of commercials where the. I believe the slogan is still real people steal people. Which still sounds like a threat to me.

Luke Burbank (40:52)

But you know what? It won't be, Andrew. It won't be. It's not the water season anymore. Right. Because of the fact that. And people have been reaching out to this, you know that our brand is very strong with bagel, bagel, bagel, bagel boogal with blazing bagels. That went out of business.

Andrew Walsh (41:08)

Yeah. Apparently not.

Luke Burbank (41:09)

The water guy. Big Mariner sponsor as well.

Andrew Walsh (41:11)

Certain blaze of glory, I would assume. Kind of sad to hear that. I didn't go there a lot. I tried a couple of times. They had a new location that opened up in the University district. Or that's not really the U district. Right. That's more like University Village area. Oh down by the village, kind of by six. It's like kind of at 65th. Like, if you were taking the back way into U Village, you know, kind of where your burger master used to be, kind of.

Luke Burbank (41:35)

Yeah, yeah.

Andrew Walsh (41:37)

Your kid Valley. I always get that wrong, but yeah. Anyway, so it was kind of in that area, but I stopped in, like, I think I tried it twice. But it was one of those times where. And you know what? Maybe this is an indicator of some things they had going on or where I chalked it up to being kind of that weird post pandemic time when things were open but staffing was really hard or whatever. A couple of times I went in there, like, I think I ended up leaving because one time it was randomly closed and another time it just like. It just seemed chaotic in this way that I was like, I don't think that I'm all in on this thing.

Luke Burbank (42:08)

Is it possible it was the water?

Andrew Walsh (42:11)

Maybe it was the water. And again, I'm not saying to dance on their grave. That was a while back. And I remember even thinking, like, I'm not complaining about this. This is the weirdness of the time times. But apparently the people who originally ran the place had. I think either. I think they retired. Right. And.

Luke Burbank (42:28)

Well, it was the guy. It was the. It was the. It's not the water guy who had founded it, who had stepped away. I think I was reading in the Times maybe a year or so ago, but I think it was being run by his daughters.

Andrew Walsh (42:39)

His two daughters, I want to say. Two daughters. Yeah.

Luke Burbank (42:42)

What's interesting that I didn't expect was I believe one of them, her name is Whitney Ballen, is a singer of note in Seattle.

Andrew Walsh (42:49)

Oh, yeah. I didn't know that.

Luke Burbank (42:50)

Unless there's two Whitney Ballins, which is a very specific. They were like, you know, they were the Times was reaching out to her for a quote about the sort of, you know, what's going on with Blaze and Bagels. And she was talking about it in her capacity as the person in charge of Blaze and Bagels. I was like, isn't that that singer that I like?

Andrew Walsh (43:05)

Interesting.

Luke Burbank (43:06)

It's a kind of a song kind

Andrew Walsh (43:07)

of singer, songwriter style.

Luke Burbank (43:08)

Yeah, yeah. Just kind of. But anyway, I was. That. I didn't realize that her. That singer's dad was the. It's not the water guy. Yeah, It's a surprise to me.

Andrew Walsh (43:16)

I don't know. They just sort of made it sound like the business. They didn't get into details. One thing I like is they didn't like, like A lot of businesses go out of business, and when they do in Seattle, they like to take a swipe at Seattle culture or politics or something along the lines of that. And there was none of that in there. There was no blaming.

Luke Burbank (43:35)

He actually specifically said, it's not the

Andrew Walsh (43:37)

politics, not the taxes.

Luke Burbank (43:40)

It's not Katie Wilson.

Andrew Walsh (43:42)

It's not the fact that we actually have to pay our employees a livable wage. There is none of that. It was just like, it sounds like the business just wasn't working. And it started with maybe their wholesale business as well, which I guess they were selling bagels to grocery stores and stuff. And then I think that was the first operation to sort of shutter.

Luke Burbank (43:58)

So, yeah, rip blazing bagels. We had some listeners who were associated with that place, and we got a lot of mileage out of those commercials, which I thought were pretty great.

Andrew Walsh (44:07)

Yeah. And shirts. I still have mine.

Luke Burbank (44:09)

Oh, right. Yeah. We was hoping for some razzle dazzle. Razzle dazzle. That's right, man. Razzle dazzle.

Andrew Walsh (44:17)

On your mark. On your mark. Get set, get set now.

Unknown Speaker A (44:20)

Ready, ready, go.

Luke Burbank (44:22)

Everybody rattle dazzle, everybody. All right, let's thank some dazzling donors. These are a couple of folks that we're going to thank today who are donating to the show each month. Or maybe they donated at the THON in a. In a lump sum, but they are keeping TBTL in business. This is 100%. Listen, listener supported podcasting here. And it's thanks to Erica Mittendorfer, who's in Seattle, Washington.

Andrew Walsh (44:51)

Erica. Thank you, Erica.

Luke Burbank (44:54)

We've been saying Erica's name for many, many years on this show. Erica. Thank you. Erica says, I like to use my 15 seconds of TBTL fame to thank Luke, Andrew, and John for being part of my days since 2012. This really is special. Wow, Erica. That's a. It's a good run. 13, 14 years we're talking about.

Andrew Walsh (45:15)

Yeah.

Luke Burbank (45:15)

I'd also like to thank Sarah Nichol Smith, realtor and sponsor of this dazzling donorship, for helping sell then buy a home in six months in a tough Seattle market.

Andrew Walsh (45:26)

Whoa.

Luke Burbank (45:28)

So our friend and can I say, Andrew, a real estate agent, you have also worked with.

Andrew Walsh (45:32)

Yes, of course. Our friend and personal realtor to the star, Sarah Nicholas.

Luke Burbank (45:36)

That's right.

Andrew Walsh (45:37)

Yes.

Luke Burbank (45:37)

And by that we mean bingo.

Andrew Walsh (45:39)

Yes.

Luke Burbank (45:39)

Sarah Nichols Smith obviously also was the real estate agent to Erica.

Andrew Walsh (45:45)

Yes. I think what happened was Sarah Nichols Smith said, if, you know, if anybody wants to take advantage of my services, hire me to buy or sell a home, and I will offer up a dazzling donorship. In your name. And I think that's exactly what we have here. Which is awesome for like a zillion different reasons.

Luke Burbank (46:03)

I love to see this. Yeah. This kind of like tens working with tens and then tens sponsoring tens on dazzling donor messages. It's all coming together. The. We talked. This is Erica talking about her time with Sarah Nichols Smith. We talked in TBTL drops throughout the process. Jalapena 100% would recommend. Can you imagine the looks on the faces of the notary?

Andrew Walsh (46:28)

Yes. Right.

Luke Burbank (46:29)

As. As paperwork is being signed and as people are just saying, like, let the fun begin.

Andrew Walsh (46:34)

Well, I was wondering how much of that actually ended up in the paperwork as well too. That's an interesting thing to contemplate.

Luke Burbank (46:40)

Yeah.

Andrew Walsh (46:40)

Right.

Luke Burbank (46:40)

Contractually.

Andrew Walsh (46:41)

Right.

Luke Burbank (46:41)

Like we seller will present the home clean as your mama's forehead. Very good buyer will get the keys at either 1turdy230 or 330. Now for something near and dear to my heart. If you live in the greater Puget Sound area and you want to get outside or try a new activity with cool people, including me, check out the Mountaineers. They're a non profit dedicated to helping people explore the beauty of Washington safely. With many activities to choose from, they also work to conserve the wild places that need help now more than ever. Come on, join us. I also met my 11 Justin via their hikes. Though it is not a formal dating service, go to mountaineers.org or reach out to chat. So let me just. I'm gonna. I'm gonna give the LB summary. It's like the AI summary, but somehow even less accurate. The LB summary of what Erica is saying is if you live in the PNW and you're. You're looking. You're interested in buying a house or selling a house, reach out to Sarah Nichols Smith. If you're interested in getting out to the great outdoors, definitely check out the Mountaineers. And low key, if you wouldn't mind meeting somebody interesting. Although it's not a dating service. It worked for Erica.

Andrew Walsh (48:00)

It worked for one person. But past results do not guarantee future performance.

Luke Burbank (48:06)

There you go. Exactly. Erica says there truly is no mountain too tall. She would know, what with being in the Mountaineers.

Andrew Walsh (48:12)

Yeah.

Luke Burbank (48:13)

Isn't that that band that does that hey ho song? I love them.

Andrew Walsh (48:15)

That is that band, I think.

Luke Burbank (48:17)

Yeah, Yeah, I think it's the Lumineers.

Andrew Walsh (48:19)

Oh, you're right. There's an ears in there.

Luke Burbank (48:22)

Erica says powah out. Thank you, Erica. We really do appreciate it. And congrats on the. On the house, maestro.

Andrew Walsh (48:29)

Let's turn that 11 into a 10, shall we?

Luke Burbank (48:31)

Yeah, that's a project for 20, 26.

Andrew Walsh (48:34)

Ready, go.

Luke Burbank (48:36)

Everybody rattle dazzle. Well, if it isn't Brandt Severson of Moraga, California, in the East Bay between Berkeley and Walnut Creek.

Andrew Walsh (48:48)

Well, we all knew that. Yeah, I mean, obviously, but I appreciate the detail.

Luke Burbank (48:53)

I was. That's. I'm. I would love to steal the valor of that and act like I just knew that off top of my head. That is in Brandt's, like, you know, submission here. I. If I. I would have guessed that Moraga, California, I would. We've talked about it before. I know we have, but I would have guessed it was more central California, and I would have been wrong. So now I know where it is, and I know that Brandt said this in his message. He says, I started listening during the pandemic. Whoa, Brandt.

Andrew Walsh (49:18)

Well, you're a mere baby. You're like a scrub baby.

Luke Burbank (49:20)

Exactly. I am fascinated, Andrew, at the family structure of the scrub devices. Scrub daddy, scrub mommy, scrub baby, scrub stepbrother, who scrub daddy tries to be basically treat like his own scrub child. But, like, there are times when you can see he's getting a little more mad.

Andrew Walsh (49:41)

Can I just put scrub stepchild? I'm not the scrub daddy. I'm the daddy who scrubbed up. Scrubbed up, Yeah. I think is the. What you're looking for there.

Luke Burbank (49:50)

God, I love that funches bit. I love that so much. Brant says I started listening during the pandemic based on a recommendation from another podcaster. Hey, look who it is. Sam Dingman.

Andrew Walsh (50:00)

Oh, it's Sam, our old palace.

Luke Burbank (50:03)

Our favorite baseball podcaster, Sam Dingman. My first episode was episode number 3,000, 294 on 11, 16, 20, and I felt like I'd found two friendos right away. Ah, Brandt does my heart good. While I've never gone back and listened to earlier episodes, I've listened to every episode since. I enjoy it all. I rarely feel like I need to throw my phone. Well, that's good. That puts you in, I would say, a small, small percentile of the listeners, Brandt. But okay, so I have a lot of gratitude for the community and the kind banter five days a week. When I first listened, I was moved by Andrew's feelings around aging and then passing a good old cat, Theo, as I recall. I think Brandt recalls accurately. We're just talking about Theo the other day on the show.

Andrew Walsh (50:46)

Yeah, yeah, I see. I was a little confused there. So not talking about my own aging, but the aging of my old cat, Theodore, who eventually did pass.

Luke Burbank (50:53)

No. You're talking about your aging is very upsetting to Brandon.

Andrew Walsh (50:57)

We did that. Less. A little bit awful. I mean, it ranks with you talking about how you cut your toenails.

Luke Burbank (51:03)

Or don't.

Andrew Walsh (51:03)

Or don't.

Luke Burbank (51:04)

Or didn't. Two star Yelp review.

Andrew Walsh (51:07)

Yes.

Luke Burbank (51:07)

Since then I've really enjoyed hearing about Professor Bananas and Bubbles. And now, of course, Bingo. This is.

Andrew Walsh (51:14)

Will.

Luke Burbank (51:15)

Will this be the. No. This is not going to be the longest you've been away from Bingo, Andrew.

Andrew Walsh (51:18)

Is it? No. No.

Luke Burbank (51:20)

I.

Andrew Walsh (51:20)

We've taken other. We've taken other trips before. Yeah. Yeah.

Luke Burbank (51:24)

The cat talk motivated me to adopt a cat in March of 2021. Thirteen year old Tiger.

Andrew Walsh (51:31)

Tiger.

Luke Burbank (51:33)

I formalized his name to Eldrick. If you're a golfer, you know, I believe that's Tiger Woods.

Andrew Walsh (51:39)

Oh, that's interesting. I did not know.

Luke Burbank (51:42)

I don't believe Earl woods named his son Tiger. That would have been pretty. Pretty sick. And enjoyed four great years with him until he crossed the Rainbow Bridge last June. I'm sorry. I mean, listen, I don't. We don't need to. If we start going down this road, we'll be here till sunup. But there's something really special about people that, and the relationships. And I haven't done this myself, but I've heard this from people who I know have, who adopt an older animal and get to really bond with that animal and make the last portion of that animal's life really special. Oftentimes animals that have maybe not had the greatest first couple of. Of phases. And so that's so cool, Brandt, that you and Eldrick, you and Tiger got to. Got to hang out for those four years. He had a fantastic last few years and brought me and my family and friends so much joy. So my plug is to take the plunge and adopt a pet and to the guys, keep the pet talk coming, including Gigi and Becca's cat. Oh, boy. Holly. Holly is. Holly is an Interesting one. 1. I've only known Holly in her very, very. That's Becca's cat, a tuxedo cat who is extremely stoic. Not, not rude, not mean, but just like the opposite of Bubbles. Bubbles is. Is active to a fault and all up in everybody and everything all the time. Holly is just happy to chill in a corner of the couch and watch the world go by. I'm still trying to get inside Holly's head now. Becca adopted Holly or you know, actually I think maybe Holly was like one of those kittens that was in a box outside of a grocery store kind of thing when she was just a tiny, teeny, tiny kitten. But I met Holly when Holly was a. A female cat of large carriage and fully grown. And I can't picture the teeny, tiny version of Holly. I only know this one, but I endeavor to get. I mean, she's 100% less annoying than Bubbles, so she and I have a special bond just based on that.

Andrew Walsh (53:39)

Somebody sent a video yesterday, totally randomly. A friend of ours sent a video of Bingo when he was just a tiny baby. So they must have come over and, you know, met Bingo for the first time and took a little video and sent it to me and Genevieve just randomly. And there's something about getting a photo or a video of your cat when they were your pet, when they were a little puppy or kitty or whatever it is, and you're just, like. Just out of the blue like that. It was really. He still had. His coloring was still distinct, so that he just had a round. Almost a perfectly round circle of dark fur kind of framing his face. And that's where I was like, oh, we should have named him Spaceball because he looked like a little Spaceball. But then that sort of hyperactive mode. Exactly. I still. So when I see old photos of him, I'm like, oh, there's our old little Spaceball.

Luke Burbank (54:27)

I mean, again, we've talked enough about your trip and the return from your trip, but would you say you're more excited to go to Hawaii or to come home on Saturday and see?

Andrew Walsh (54:35)

It is weird, man. Like, I know that you think it's a little bit much, but I like that.

Luke Burbank (54:40)

That's not my point.

Andrew Walsh (54:41)

No, I know. But I was where I spent him this morning. I'm gonna miss you so much. And yesterday he was especially so. Like, there are just certain days where he's a little bit more. He's never, like, aloof, but there are days where he's a little bit more content to just sort of be by himself. Today is a day that Genevieve and I are both working from home, and so he's, like, going crazy. I mean, you can watch his energy level sort of change based on what's going on. He's like, oh, my friends are here today. So he's, like, ripping up the house and running around, not causing trouble. And I'm just kind of like, oh, it makes me feel bad because. Because not only are we leaving, we have a great, you know, friend who's a house sitter who's going to come and look after him, not stay here, but come a couple of times. A day to look after him. But because of the work going on downstairs, we're gonna have to seclude him to the upstairs of the house. Now I know how this sounds. Some cats have to spend many days in some sort of a crate or something if they're being boarded. Not a crate, but you know what I mean. Like a little locker or something. And he has the whole upstairs of a house. He's going to be fine, but his people are going to be gone. He won't have access to his little windows down here where he likes to watch the rabbit. And I kind of already was feeling a little bit bad for my boy, but I'm looking forward to seeing him when we get back.

Luke Burbank (55:49)

Does he? I'm doing this because Brandt wants more pet talk. Also says, here's hoping Andrew and Genevieve adopt a dog as well. Power out. I do think that's on the horizon.

Andrew Walsh (55:58)

Yes, sir.

Luke Burbank (55:59)

But like, something that Becca and I have noticed about Bingo, and I don't know if there's something other cats do about Bingo.

Andrew Walsh (56:04)

Sorry, Bubbles.

Luke Burbank (56:04)

Bubbles, I should say say, but you're talking about Bingo. Kind of like being extra on today because you and veebs are working from home. This is Bingo's move. Or, excuse me, Bubbles's move. Why did we have to have cats? Why are their names so similar? And can we just change it to Bungo? Can we morph them into one name? Be easier for me. So last night I got done doing Livewire. By the way, what a fun show. Thanks to everybody who came out. But I was driving home and Becca didn't make it because she had some work stuff. So I was calling her, just checking in, and I had texted her. This is like 10:30 at night. I texted her if she was still up, and she's like, yeah, I'm sitting on the couch. I got two cats sitting on top of me right now, which is.

Andrew Walsh (56:42)

Oh, that's great.

Luke Burbank (56:43)

That's. I think that's the kind of the default situation there when. When it's just her. It's her, a crossword puzzle and a two cats.

Andrew Walsh (56:50)

Oh, sitting on. Even Bingo. It has to be a pretty special occasion for him to actually sit on me. Like, it'll happen from time to time, but it's not a gift.

Luke Burbank (56:59)

Live in for all of Bubbles. Kind of like neurodivergence and aloofness and behaviors that I don't fully understand. If you sit on the couch for long enough and it's just you. And this is where I'm going with this. In like at my place or at the apartment, she will come over and she will jump on your lap, and she will eventually kind of, like, circle, and then she'll, like, lay down for a while. And it's like, such a great feeling because she's so active most of the time.

Andrew Walsh (57:24)

Time.

Luke Burbank (57:25)

But then the second that I'm on the phone with Becca, the second that Becca's not paying attention to Bubbles, she's up. She's walking behind the tv, almost knocking it over. Almost knocking over this porcelain thing. This happens, too, when we're at Becca's place together, if we're not just sitting silently, which is, I guess, how Bubbles feels like that indicates attention is being paid to her. If we're talking to each other, Bubbles goes into, like, a, you know, oppositional defiant disorder cat. And it's. I know this sounds crazy, like we're trying to, like, you know, like, read into the mind of this cat. But it's very. Like, if I'm there, like, at the place by myself, Becca's doing something else. It's me and Bubbles. Bubbles will come sit on my lap and just chill. If Becca and I are talking or watching tv, are doing anything that isn't focused on the cat, she just starts climbing on top of the refrigerator. She becomes a problem. And our theory is it's. She's noticing that she's not the object of attention.

Andrew Walsh (58:23)

Oh, I don't think that's.

Luke Burbank (58:24)

Can that be a real thing?

Andrew Walsh (58:25)

Absolutely. I mean, I think that. I mean, cats communicate. And also, like, I see it. I've seen it a million times. Bingo. Well, first of all, Bingo is very communicative, and he's always letting us know what he wants. And we keep his little. He's got two little toys that are, like various toys on the ends of sticks, right? Like, one is more of a kind of a metal thing with a feather on the end that sort of whips around a little bit. And the other one is more of a string and a stick with a feather. And we keep them on this one chair. And most of the day it's fine. But when it's time to play, he comes and he gets me, and then he runs to the chair, and then he runs back to me. And then he looks at me, and then he kind of bats at it, and then he looks at me. And then if I don't start playing with him, he's like, okay, I guess I'll make my own fun, Andrew. And he'll literally jump up.

Luke Burbank (59:11)

You let him call you Andrew?

Andrew Walsh (59:12)

Yeah. It's Fine. I wonder.

Luke Burbank (59:13)

There's no discipline in this house.

Andrew Walsh (59:15)

He. He will go up on the TV thing. And again, I'm very lucky. He doesn't really cause any kind of real trouble. Like, a little bit on the couch, he scratches a tiny bit. But he also, I'm pretty sure, does that to get our attention. But. But, yeah, if he's not getting enough attention, he climbs up on the TV thing and he just like, one by one, I have, like, three GI Joe guys just sitting up there. They're like, kind of like taking a lunch break or whatever, and he'll just, like, take one of them. He just knocks it off. Off, and then he looks at me, and then he goes to the next one, and then he knocks it off, and then he looks at me. And this isn't just, like, random behavior. This is when I refuse to engage with him with the actual toys that he had tried to get me to play with. Like, they absolutely do things for attention.

Luke Burbank (59:57)

But here's what the. The difference is. There's something that you could do with Bingo that would make Bingo happy, which is you can go play with the little stick thing. I feel like bubbles. Bubbles will just be knocking stuff off of the. Off of the counter and just, like, mean mugging you. But then if you went over and tried to interact with her, she would also be uninterested. Oh, really?

Andrew Walsh (60:16)

Oh, that's why it's so weird.

Luke Burbank (60:17)

It's like. It's just kind of like. It's just like. Just. You guys, stop talking. Nobody be on the phone. Nobody be on their computer.

Andrew Walsh (60:23)

Look at me.

Luke Burbank (60:25)

Look at me.

Andrew Walsh (60:25)

Yeah, look at me. Look at me.

Luke Burbank (60:28)

Anyway, thanks to our donors. Couldn't do this without you.

Andrew Walsh (60:36)

Hello. Hello, and welcome to Top Story.

Luke Burbank (60:39)

Good. An hour and three minutes into the show, it's time for Top Stories. And this is just, I guess, an update on the. The actual story behind the. The kid who we. This was in a dazzling donor message, right? They. Somebody asked this week, could we play that piece of tape that they really liked?

Andrew Walsh (60:57)

Good remembering. I couldn't remember why it came up on the show, but, yeah, I think it was just yesterday or the day before we played this tape, which has been in the TBTL catalog lexicon for years and years and years now. Probably even predating me because this went viral on YouTube in, like, 2011. It's just a kid. And as we described it the other day, he's talking directly into the camera. It's not like kind of accidental footage. He's being interviewed, but the backdrop just sort of looks like it's school picture day at Sears or something. And we're like, what. What was this from originally?

Unknown Speaker A (61:34)

Have you ever had a dream that. That you. You had you. You could. You do you would. You want. You. You could do so you. You do you could. You. You want. You want him to do you so much. You could do anything.

Andrew Walsh (61:51)

God. Slaps so hard. It's better every time I hear it.

Luke Burbank (61:56)

Absolutely fine. It's aging like fine wine.

Andrew Walsh (61:58)

Exactly. And it was interesting that we've played that and heard that so many times and seen it again. It went viral. It's not like we made it go viral so many times, But I'd never really stopped to think, like, wait, who was talking to him? Why was he saying this? What was with that backdrop? And some folks sent us a video that was made by BuzzFeed, I think, like, four or five years ago, where they actually interview that kid who's now an adult. And he kind of tells they do. And he seems like a very charming young man, honestly. And kind of coincidentally, about six months ago, somebody at Boing Boing, a different publication, wrote, whatever happened to the. Have you ever had a dream kid? And this is Jennifer Sandlin writing for Boeing Boing there. What a coincidence that you happen to

Luke Burbank (62:46)

have that sound effect on this the first day.

Andrew Walsh (62:48)

I'm actually just really stopping to think about how perfect that really was. You did not pull that because you knew we had a Boing Boing article.

Luke Burbank (62:56)

I didn't know where this. I've done no research on. On this update.

Andrew Walsh (63:00)

So anyway, I think the writer, Jennifer, takes a lot of the information she gets from this YouTube video that was released a few years ago, but does a really good job of sort of kind of summarizing it and contextualizing in a way that I really like. And basically, he explains that this video was originally from 1999. Luke. And again, to what the circumstances were was, for some reason that I'm not entirely clear on, HBO was doing a documentary about schools or maybe this particular school. And I think his mom, I want to say his mom might have worked for hbo. There was some connection there. And so an HBO crew came to his school way back in 1999 just to interview a bunch of kids. I don't know specifically what they were trying to get at. I don't think it was related to Pizzagate. I'm not exactly sure this was 99, but. So they're just, like, interviewing kids. And he is asked some sort of question. I'm looking to see what the Actual question was. But what I learned is what he's trying to do there is, quote, something from the movie Hercules. Have you heard this before or is

Luke Burbank (64:15)

this brand new information? No, animated. The animated show Hercules movie Hercules.

Andrew Walsh (64:20)

I think what it was was they asked him whatever questions they were gonna ask him him. And then I think they said I didn't have great answers to many of the questions. This is the kid as an adult speaking. But I knew I was going to shine when the producer asked about dreams. See, that's close to my heart right there. And then it says in that moment, he remembered a scene from Hercules where Hercules gives a speech about dreams. I found this tape. I don't know that it's necessarily a speech, but he tried his absolute best to recite the speech. And at the time he thought he had done pretty well. Now here I'm gonna play for you the tape. It's not really so much a speech, at least that I could find. I believe it's this six seconds of tape here.

Luke Burbank (65:01)

Look, I gotta do this.

Unknown Speaker A (65:03)

Haven't you ever had a dream, something you wanted so bad you do anything?

Andrew Walsh (65:07)

So that gotta be it is what he's trying to say. I gotta do this.

Luke Burbank (65:12)

Haven't you ever had a dream, something

Unknown Speaker A (65:15)

you wanted so bad you do anything?

Andrew Walsh (65:16)

Now let's A, and B, the this.

Unknown Speaker A (65:18)

Have you ever had a dream that. That you. You had? You. You. You could. You do. You w. You want. You. You can do so you. You do. You could. You. You want. You want him to do you so much you could do anything better.

Luke Burbank (65:36)

Nailed it.

Andrew Walsh (65:36)

Know what he's trying to say?

Luke Burbank (65:38)

Oh, my God, that's incredible.

Andrew Walsh (65:40)

There are some more dazzling details in this because I don't know when the last time you've actually put eyes on this Luke is, but what I remember about it is when the kid is talking, his eyebrows are sort of, you know, he's kind of got that worried look on his face, kind of furrowed brow. He's Jennifer Garnering it up a little bit. You know, he looks a little bit worried.

Luke Burbank (65:59)

Once upon a Farm

Andrew Walsh (66:02)

when she starts a commercial saying, as a small business owner, I freak out. It drives me crazy. That's not what you do. That's not what people know you for. Sorry, I gotta blow my nose. I was laughing so hard that I just.

Luke Burbank (66:17)

That leaking, by the way, I just want to. I just want to echo your previous comment that this is. I've always loved this tape. This is improved by so much knowing what he was trying to do. I gotta say there's something about the idea, too. And I hope I understood you correctly with. I love the idea that this kid, when he was done saying this, felt like, yeah, I pretty much nailed that.

Andrew Walsh (66:40)

Yeah.

Luke Burbank (66:41)

I really hope. I truly hope that was what he thought, because a. He did in his own way. But also, I just love that that's

Andrew Walsh (66:47)

literally the quote that he says as an adult addressing this. He says, so I was remembering him, like, sort of furrowed brow throughout, which it is true. And I've gone back and I watch it, but then he says, at the time, I thought I had done really well. And he says in his buzzfeed video, and you had look at my signature lean back and smile. It's just like, yeah, yeah, I totally nailed that. And it's true. If you watch it, he gets done and he smiles and he leans back like a cool cat. And it's true. He's really proud of himself. This is where the story actually gets even a little bit better, Luke. So he's really excited. He's like, I nailed that. This question about dreams is definitely going to make it into this documentary. Then they're also.

Luke Burbank (67:32)

I mean, listen, no offense, because I don't want to take the shine off of this, but he. He's slightly pulling a burbs there where he's like, I'm gonna get into the documentary by quoting Hercules. Sure, yeah.

Andrew Walsh (67:42)

But somebody else.

Luke Burbank (67:43)

Where's the attribution, bro?

Andrew Walsh (67:45)

Yeah, right. So now I'm gonna read directly from the Boing Boing article instead of trying to summarize on the fly here. It says, a few months later, he and other students featured in the film were invited by HBO to attend the premiere of the film in New York. Now, I don't know where this was originally, so how far they're traveling, but that must be a huge deal, right? Right, to be traveling to New York to see yourself in a film. To his surprise, his interview wasn't included in the movie itself, but it was added as an outtake at the end of the film. And he recounts that as his part was being played, the whole audience started laughing. He was embarrassed. And he remembers being angry at the producers, thinking that they had manipulated the film to make him look bad. Some of his family members ended up buying the film on vhs and he said that he had to keep watching it at family gatherings. They would fast forward to it, they would play it, and he hated it. And he said it remained buried until he was in high school. Then in 2011, someone posted the clip on YouTube and it became viral. And Then, let's see here, it says it got up to, like, 85 million views. And that's just one of the YouTube instances of it. And then I guess he did eventually kind of come around to enjoying it. But it bums me out for him to be sitting there with all of these other students, and he's like, I can't wait till they put my part in there. Then it's not in there. And you think you've been left out. And then they put you in as a joke. What am I, a joke to you at the end? And everybody bursts out laughing. Now, if you and I were in that theater, we would have been laughing, too. Like, it's brilliant. It's absolutely wonderful. And he has a great attitude about it now, but at the time, he thought he was going to be a star.

Luke Burbank (69:25)

I can totally identify with that feeling of, first of all, what his expectation was. But then also, there's no way for a kid that age to understand that the reason that the producers made it, the tag on the movie, the. The outtake, is because it's so genius. It's so much better than anything else that happened in the movie. But to have everybody laughing.

Andrew Walsh (69:48)

Yeah.

Luke Burbank (69:49)

And to have it not be presented in the way you were expecting, that would just be crushing at that age.

Andrew Walsh (69:54)

Yeah.

Luke Burbank (69:54)

I guess the lesson being in, most of the people listening here are our age, you know, or maybe. Maybe around our age, so they know this. But it's like your perception of stuff as a kid is so different than the perception that you will have as an adult. Looking back on him, you know? Yeah.

Andrew Walsh (70:08)

Yeah.

Luke Burbank (70:08)

And sad for him that he had that period of time where it was embarrassing to him, because if only he could have fast forwarded to, like, now realizing, no way, dude. That was so freaking awesome what you did.

Andrew Walsh (70:18)

And I really like his vibe in the. In the video in which he talks about this. And I could even call it up if you. If you want. It's just one of those, you know, buzzfeed videos that has a lot of kind of music tinkling underneath it. So I didn't grab any of the tape, but for the most part, he just seems like. I mean, how much can I tell you about a man that I've seen four and a half minutes of on a YouTube video?

Luke Burbank (70:37)

We know he's a fan of the movie Hercules.

Andrew Walsh (70:39)

We know that he likes Hercules, but he just doesn't seem, like, busted in any kind of way. You know what I mean? He seems to have exactly the right attitude about this, which is sort of like, yeah, it's kind of a funny story, but it's also like, number one, it doesn't seem like it defines him or he hasn't gone and tried to. He's not like, in talks, as far as I know, to make the. Did you ever have a dream movie or limited series on Fubo or something like that?

Luke Burbank (71:07)

It's a house with him, the apparently kid and Charlie. That hurt guy.

Andrew Walsh (71:11)

Exactly. Exactly. Like, it just sort of seems like it's a fun thing from his past that he has kind of come to appreciate for exactly what it is and nothing more and nothing less.

Luke Burbank (71:20)

I. Andrew, thank you for sharing that with me and. And.

Andrew Walsh (71:23)

And for the listeners for sending it.

Luke Burbank (71:25)

Yeah. Who weren't familiar. And also, I want to thank the universe for not milkshake ducking that kid.

Andrew Walsh (71:31)

Yeah.

Luke Burbank (71:31)

Over. Well, not being like.

Andrew Walsh (71:32)

I do have to tell you about something he posted on Reddit.

Luke Burbank (71:36)

The apparently kid. Not the apparently kid. The dream.

Andrew Walsh (71:38)

Wait, you're.

Luke Burbank (71:39)

You're joking, right?

Andrew Walsh (71:40)

Joking, though.

Luke Burbank (71:40)

Oh, got me scared there, Andrew. That hurt.

Andrew Walsh (71:46)

He's not. He's. I'm not going to Ken bone him. He. Here. Here I go once again with the email. Every week, I hope that it's from a female. Oh, man. It's not from a female.

Luke Burbank (71:59)

All right, email or vmail before we get on out of here on this Friday.

Andrew Walsh (72:05)

Yeah, you had one and I had one. Right. Both of these are emails. Did you want to share yours first

Luke Burbank (72:09)

or you want me to. Yeah, mine is. Mine is. Is short but sweet. So it's. But it's important, Andrew, because it is.

Andrew Walsh (72:16)

Is.

Luke Burbank (72:17)

It's proving once again that I am not as insane as I seem sometimes. Listener. Joyce, on the subject of salt. Peter, remember we were talking the other day about something, and I made some kind of a joke, probably inappropriately so, about saltpeter. And I said, that's something that I had always heard was, like, associated with, like, curtailing male arousal. And we were trying to figure out. And then I was looking it up and the Internet was not. Not confirming it for me. Certainly the AI wasn't. And then I thought, well, maybe it's because it has the word Peter in it and you salt the earth. Maybe I just invented this in my brain and I very quickly just decided I was. I had lost my damn mind. But Joyce. Joyce was there for me when I needed them most. Joyce says it was widely referred to as something that inhibited sexual desires in movies, especially related to World War II. You assumed you made it up, probably because you're too Young to recall the ancient cultural reference. And you didn't ask the AI the right question. So what I should have said was salt Peter idea that inhibits sexual desire. As a boomer who watched tons of old films and TV in the 50s and 60s, I recall the teasingly joking references and figuring it out. This is from Joyce, I believe in Toronto. So this was a cross. This was an international rumor by the way. There's no truth to it. So the point is not that saltpeter because then I looked it up this morning. The point is not that saltpeter has any effect on that at all. It was just a silly urban legend. But it was a silly urban legend that was a feature in movies and TV shows. And so that is how it got into my brain. So I did not completely invent the idea of this, even though it is in fact not a factual thing.

Andrew Walsh (74:00)

And it's interesting that it was in movies and TV shows depicting the military because when I type in whatever Joyce suggested there salt Peter male inhibits sexual desire. I just type that in. Now the very first thing to pop up is an article from the Military Times from about four years ago that says saltpeter for sex drives. And the urban legend of the military's libido manipulation. I have.

Luke Burbank (74:24)

That's from Boners in Uniform, right? That's my favorite.

Andrew Walsh (74:27)

I was going to say I like the all girl punk band and libido manipulation. That's one of my favorite. It's one of my favorite.

Luke Burbank (74:34)

I saw them open for L7 the crocodile back in the 90s.

Andrew Walsh (74:39)

Very good. So anyway, that's really interesting. Well thanks for being our fact checking cuz there.

Luke Burbank (74:42)

Yeah, thanks Joyce. Listen, I'm always open to an email that says that I wasn't completely and totally had lost my mind.

Andrew Walsh (74:50)

So thank you Joyce and I wanted to share this. I know you saw this too, Luke. Cause I think you might have responded to this email today. Lisa wrote in about our conversation about. About Bill the Beer man and Rick the Peanut Man. These were two vendors, peanut vendors, beer vendors from the Kingdome here in Seattle way before my day. It came up because your mom, I'm going to say this. I know that she could potentially hear this show. I didn't want to say this to her face, but she brought up a saying that her sister used to say to her when she was talking too much.

Luke Burbank (75:23)

I think it was her aunt, her great aunt Blue.

Andrew Walsh (75:26)

And it was take your tongue on a sleigh ride. And she thought that that meant shut up. Take your. Take your Tongue on a sleigh ride. Stop talking so much. Which didn't seem right to me. I think maybe the.

Luke Burbank (75:37)

Didn't make a lot of sense.

Andrew Walsh (75:38)

No, it seems like the family was misusing it a little bit. And when I typed in that phrase, I saw was that. Not that it wasn't a phrase, but that maybe it was just the meaning had been mangled. Because we learned pretty quickly that a beer vendor. And again, this was. I didn't type in Seattle or anything. I just typed in that phrase about taking your tongue on a sleigh ride. And the first thing that popped up was that there was a beer man named Bill the Beer man, who you remember from the Kingdome days, who would yell something like, take your tongue on a sleigh ride. Cold beer. Ice cold beer here. And that's what kind of got us talking about these two legends. And you actually had experience with them, right? Like you saw them?

Luke Burbank (76:16)

Yes, more so with. Because I was a little too young for beer in those days. Although that guy was iconic, it was really more real. Rick the peanut guy, who, as I mentioned the other day, his whole thing was he was a master at throwing peanuts. Bags of peanuts to people behind the back. And he had, like, created this technique where he would kind of make sure he would crumple the foil bag that had the peanuts in it so that it was, you know, not gonna come apart. And then he would just. And he could do this, like, from, you know, very far away from the person. And the fun part, too do. And I kind of said this the other day was like, you would, like. He'd be going, peanuts, peanuts. And as a kid, like, if, you know, on the rare occasion I could get my dad to spring for peanuts or maybe I'd have my own money, you'd kind of signal him, and he'd give you a nod like he. Like you were now on his radar, but he wasn't going to just come over and hand you the peanut. So he's going to work the section, and at some point, he was going to give you another look almost with a. Like a Peter Falk. As you wish. Glint. And then that meant he was about to. To fire a bag of peanuts at you from behind his back, and it would come right to you.

Andrew Walsh (77:19)

Well, I will say, though, as I'm clicking around a little bit more, this. This expression, take your tongue on the sleigh ride. It's not. The Internet does not have a million examples of it or, like, people saying, you know, like, any kind of idiom.

Luke Burbank (77:33)

Yeah.

Andrew Walsh (77:33)

You know, antiquated or modern. There are a million websites that are going to give you the background on it. And it's just. It doesn't seem to be that. It looks like some people are attributing it to very loosely to like an ice cream vendor. And that would make a lot of sense. Right. Like if you're selling ice cream cones,

Luke Burbank (77:52)

that is your sleigh ride for the tongue.

Andrew Walsh (77:54)

Exactly. And I'm wondering. But then. Oh, but then here's somebody else who's saying, some people said, why don't you freeze your teeth and give your tongue a sleigh ride? Which that would appear to be closer to what your mom maybe was saying.

Luke Burbank (78:07)

Again, that sounds like a lot of work.

Andrew Walsh (78:08)

I don't know, it's just first you

Luke Burbank (78:10)

gotta freeze the teeth.

Andrew Walsh (78:11)

Yeah.

Luke Burbank (78:11)

I'm wondering if Bill the beer man heard the, you know, the ice cream kind of idiom and then he just. And then he just kind of modified it for his beer sales.

Andrew Walsh (78:23)

Yeah. My mother still spouts, this is just some rando online. My mother still. Sorry, Trisha, for referring to you as a rando. Trisha, somebody who left a comment in February of 2010. My mother still spots a lot of gems from her childhood. Her two favorites are why don't you freeze your teeth and give your tongue a sleigh ride? A phrase she used often in the presence of my son who would never stop talking. So I now feel like I disrespected your mom at the beginning of this conversation. Again, add it to the list. Sorry, Susie, but anyway, I thought that was all interesting. Let me share more of Lisa's note here. She says, I grew up in Seattle and I was a. I love this. I want to know if this rings any bells for you, Luke. I was a Pepsi Junior Mariner in the very early days of the Mariners and the Kingdom Dome. Parenthetically, a whole posse of kids and two dads would pile in the wagon and go to about seven games every season on some super cheap deals. That was a Pepsi Junior deal, apparently. Did you ever take advantage of that?

Luke Burbank (79:18)

I didn't, but I was very envious.

Andrew Walsh (79:20)

You were aware of the Pepsi Junior?

Luke Burbank (79:22)

I. I'd hear them announce it. You know, they'd be promoting it in the Kingdom to the eight people that were there enjoying the Pepsi. Probably still. Tom. Hut one, Hut two, Hut. Butler joined the Pepsi Junior Mariners. And you know, we, we weren't a Junior Mariners family, but. But yeah, no, I thought that was very cool. Any association with the team being able to say that I'm a Junior Mariner. I mean, that would have been dope.

Andrew Walsh (79:43)

It would be interesting if you would have ended up being a Pepsi guy instead of a Coke guy had you been part of that.

Luke Burbank (79:47)

Yeah, I bet you that's part of. Well, they just sponsored it because they're trying to do name recognition. But it'd be funny if that was also part of, like, Pepsi's attempt to. I mean, they did call themselves the voice of a new generation.

Andrew Walsh (79:58)

Yeah.

Luke Burbank (79:59)

Maybe they were just like, we're going to get kids associated with Pepsi. I mean, probably that's what was.

Andrew Walsh (80:04)

Get them young. Yeah. Let's see here. Lisa says that, referring to Bill the Beer.

Luke Burbank (80:08)

I was a Camel cigarette youth.

Andrew Walsh (80:10)

Yeah.

Luke Burbank (80:11)

So that worked.

Andrew Walsh (80:12)

There were dozens of us. Lisa says, I have a lot of memories of both of those vendors and, of course, watching the team from the absolute back of the dome in the top deck. So that's where those Pepsi Junior.

Luke Burbank (80:24)

That was the thing about any of those promotions. Any of those, like, you know, deals where it was like. And get, you know, special discount tickets. It was like you got the worst seat at the games that literally no one wanted to go to.

Andrew Walsh (80:36)

Yeah. Now, Lisa says, a big standout memory for me is a little later, my friend Laura's mom and stepdad were big baseball fans. And in the 80s and early 90s, maybe they got married and had a small reception at their house. A small reception at their house. But Bill and Rick were at the reception passing out beer and tossing peanuts. Literally tossing peanuts.

Luke Burbank (80:58)

Amazing.

Andrew Walsh (80:58)

This from Lisa in Ben says, I love this walk down memory lane. I'm jealous. I wasn't even a Mariners fan. I didn't even live here. I didn't know what a Mariner was.

Luke Burbank (81:06)

It never even occurred to me. Talk about thinking outside the bag. Like, of course, you know, these guys were kind of. They were local celebrities. And my guess would be that they. They made good tips, and they probably were. You know, they were making a pretty good living for what they were doing. But it is kind of seasonal work, if you think about it. There's not a game every single day. And so, of course, Rick would come to your barbecue or party and throw peanuts, probably for a reasonable fee. Of course. That was doable. But, man, that would have exploded my mind if I showed up somewhere and he was there slinging peanuts.

Andrew Walsh (81:46)

I'm gonna put you on the spot because I've been thinking about this for the past couple of minutes, and I can't think of an example that's perfect myself. But what would be The. The equivalent of that today because at first I was like, oh, it'd be like having Aaron Goldsmith gold. But that's not right because he's an announcer. That's a bigger role in the organization. He works for the Mariners, you know, like somebody who's more like a. More of a people's hero, you know? Would it be like somebody dressed green for the Seahawks games? I don't know those people.

Luke Burbank (82:17)

It'd probably be like painted hawk or back in the day, big low. The guy with the big C fence sign. Yeah, like, probably that's the closest thing we have. But again, not to. Not to end the week on a predictable but kind of, you know, complaining note. But I'm guessing that you would. They would. Whoever is in charge of the concessions at the Mariners game would frown upon a concessions person throwing the peanuts behind their back. You know what I mean? Like, I feel like we don't have. Have as many of these kinds of folks because I think that we just live in a world with more rules and liability and more cor. I mean, corporate greed is all part of it. Just, like, I just don't think it's a place that is as conducive to as many characters kind of developing in the way that it was. And so, yeah, I can't. Like, for instance, and I don't go to nearly as many Mariners games as you do, but, like, are there any concession folks at the Mariners games that. That you remember that come around? And I mean, I know they have concession people, but a lot of it now seems like you're buying it actually from the. The concession.

Andrew Walsh (83:25)

Oh, they do come around. They do come around. And I can't compare to the oldie days. I'm just guessing that it's less of that than it used to be, because you're right. There's so many concession stands around. And I mean, and this gets into a little bit of a. A kind of a back in my day vibe, which I don't even really have a back in my day for this kind of experience.

Luke Burbank (83:46)

Cody here was back in his.

Andrew Walsh (83:47)

That's right. I'm still mad that Cody never took my suggestion of writing about how light bulbs are such a mishigas these days. Oh, I was. I was taught that I've been using mishigas wrong.

Luke Burbank (83:59)

Okay. I feel like I use mishigas semi regularly and probably wrong as well. I think of Michigan. Well, why don't you tell me how you. How you've been using it and told you.

Andrew Walsh (84:10)

Well, it wasn't me. It was actually she was somebody, I guess was a very good humored person who. I think Genevieve used this in a work meeting. Mishigas. Because it is a great word, and I think she used it in the manner that. I don't want to malign her if I'm misunderstanding this, but the way I always think of mishigas is just like a big mess. It's just like a chaos, and there's a big mess. Things went off the rails. We have a mishigas here, but I guess it has to have more of a. More of like kind of a clownish or humorous sort of context. Like, a mishigas isn't just like, I spilled chili all over the carpet. The mishigases. Two literal clowns came in here in a clown car. One of them squirted me in the face with a flower, and then I spilled chili all over the car. But I don't know if I have that exactly right. But I think it would be.

Luke Burbank (84:56)

Yeah, it'd be more like if you were being crazy. So, like, isn't it like, meshuggah is crazy in Yiddish? So I think mishigas is that. I think it would be like the chili. This is how I would use it. Like, or try to like, the chili got spilled because you were balancing it on your forehead.

Andrew Walsh (85:11)

Yeah. Doing something silly.

Luke Burbank (85:13)

It was a mishigah. It was a crazy behavior by you that created this.

Andrew Walsh (85:17)

So you knew that. Yeah, I think I was.

Luke Burbank (85:19)

I, I. But I also think there were many years where I was also just meaning any kind of. Any kind of a. Just like a messed up situation. Like, you know, but not because of crazy behavior. So, like, traffic was a mishigas, was it? Well, it would be if a small clown car broke down and all the clowns got out and started doing the macarena.

Andrew Walsh (85:40)

Right.

Luke Burbank (85:40)

That would be meshuggah of them.

Andrew Walsh (85:42)

Or if a truck that was carrying bowling balls. Bowling balls and honey crashed at the.

Luke Burbank (85:48)

Which one weighs more?

Andrew Walsh (85:50)

Well, if you drop a bowling ball,

Luke Burbank (85:52)

I saw the honey. I was. I was sending something back at the UPS store or. Boy, we gotta go. I know you got people to see and places to be, but one thing I've noticed, because I live alone and because I do still order a lot of things online, more than probably I should. And then I do sometimes return those things. Like, I ordered a rice cooker, and then I decided, I'm gonna just learn how to cook rice in a pot. And I did. And now that's what I'm doing. I don't need the rice cooker. It's a unitask, or as you like to say, Andrew Drew. So I took it back and I realized returning things to Amazon. Amazon, or as some call it, Amazon,

Andrew Walsh (86:30)

I would get in the zone.

Luke Burbank (86:32)

Amazon. Returning things to Amazon is extremely female coded. Except me, when I am standing in that UPS store with my Amazon return, it is me and about 12 other people in line with our boxes. And I am, am every time the only male with box. It's very much like it seems to be. And I'm not saying this is how it should be. It just feels like it's very. It's something that usually falls to, I think, the women in a household environment for whatever reason.

Andrew Walsh (87:03)

Yeah, I was going to ask you what you think of that, because I

Luke Burbank (87:07)

think it's just part of a larger way that our society remains.

Andrew Walsh (87:10)

You think it's that like, it's like, oh, it's this kind of like the work that kind of for the whole family that tends to fall on the woman. Or it could also have to do with like, demographics of who's doing more online shopping for things that are potentially returnable. Like, I have a thing. I don't, you know, I don't, I don't relish in breaking things down by gender, especially for me, because I don't think that I fall in line with a lot of the stereotypes. But, like, I really do hate the idea of returning things. And like, I don't. I just don't think Genevieve does. Like, Genevieve will just try. She'll buy something online. And usually the things you have to return, not always, but often are maybe a clothing item because it didn't quite fit right, you know. Yeah. And even though I'm not using Amazon anymore and Amazon makes it so easy to return things, a lot of companies do. They have to. That's what the standard is. And I still use Stitch Fix sometimes to buy like, you know, shirts or, you know, clothing or whatever. And I bought a pair of shorts I was very excited about that should have it fit all of my fit. You know, the size seemed right, but for some reason this brand of shorts came and they just did not fit me. And I was like, oh, God. And I'm like Paul Rudd pout stomping, like, return this thing. And all I had to do is put it back in a plastic bag, put a sticker on it, and literally hand it to somebody at the UPS store that is a block from my house. You know, I mean, it's not a big deal, but like, I just have this mental block about it.

Luke Burbank (88:32)

Well, I think there's two. There's a couple of different sort of, sort of versions of this. So when I was living in Portland proper and I would take something back, there was an easy return place, you know, because Amazon owns Whole Foods. A lot of Whole Foods have these like Amazon return hubs in them. And when I would be in those lines, I would, I would text Becca. I always call Becca a return girly because that's her. She, you know, she buys clothes online. Not really from Amazon per se, but she buys clothes online line without being worried about if she has to return them. She's just like, yeah, I'll buy. She doesn't. She hates trying on clothes in the store. She'll buy clothes in the store without trying them on, go home, try them on, be like, yeah, not for me. And then has a new errand she has to do of returning that to me. Seems insane.

Andrew Walsh (89:18)

Yeah. I also hate trying things on at the store, but I would rather do it at the store and at least know that I'm not coming back.

Luke Burbank (89:25)

But I'd always be texting her in that line at the Whole Foods because it would be a me and a number of women who appear to be returning clothes who were, you know, just had bore a lot of outward similarities to Becca. A certain kind of look, a certain kind of fashion, a certain kind of what I perceive to be lifestyle of living in the Pearl of Portland and returning that thing that you bought from Lululemon online that you didn't really want and you're returning it, you know, through this whatever thing. But the ones in the, at the UPS store down in Longview, that feels more like the, the, the labor of being the, the wife and mom in the family. You know, who knows what's in those boxes. But it's like, you know, your husband is at his, you know, more typical. Whatever, nine to five. You may also have a job, but somehow your job has a little bit of flexibility because somehow you're standing in this UPS store at 2pm on this Thursday. And I'm there because I'm a podcaster and I live alone and there's no one to return the stuff except me.

Andrew Walsh (90:20)

Yeah, exactly. You have to get Bubbles back in your life and send Bubbles down to the store with your little package to return things for you.

Luke Burbank (90:27)

Yeah, maybe just like, maybe just put her in one of the boxes and mail her off somewhere.

Andrew Walsh (90:33)

I think about that story a lot. Do you remember when that poor little kid, I mean, everything turned out okay? Which is the only reason I'm bringing it up. But like, yeah, it was a true, true accident. And the family was just absolutely. Well, they were bereft when they thought they lost their cat. And then it turns out that their cat crawled into a box that they were shipping back to Amazon because cats will do that all the time. I think Bingo does this all the time. He just. He sees a box, he goes into box. That is it. That is like the. The straight line of logic for this cat.

Luke Burbank (91:03)

Let's not over complicate it.

Andrew Walsh (91:04)

Let's not overcomplicate it. Is that a box? A cat? I'm going to go in that box. And so some poor son of a gun of a cat was shipped many. I don't know how long it took, but it was many days before the cat was returned to its owner. I believe an Amazon worker found the cat or opened the box with the cat in it, and the cat ended up being okay and they reunited. So I wouldn't even bring that up if that was not the ending of that story. But I think about it a lot. Yeah.

Luke Burbank (91:27)

I'm very. Well, a. Bubbles doesn't live here. And be. I'm very, very careful with. I check these boxes for any kind of wildlife before I. Before I return them down to the store. So I feel like I was going somewhere with that UPS store story outside of the gendered nature of it. But you know what? Honestly, I think we've all. I think we had more than enough for me this week. And I think you can probably call this good.

Andrew Walsh (91:48)

What did we. Because I know I was. I was. It doesn't matter. I didn't have anything great to say. I was just gonna talk about the vending situation changing at ballparks, and that's what got you on that. And I can't remember what. What about vending at a ballpark led

Luke Burbank (92:01)

to returning what I was. Well, one thing I was going to say about the ballpark concessions was. And this is real back in my day, it's that the food now at the baseball stadium is so varied.

Andrew Walsh (92:14)

Yeah.

Luke Burbank (92:14)

It's not conducive to being carried around in a. In a. In a crate. You know, you're not going to bring around sushi, maybe. I mean, you could, I guess, but it's like it used to be. Hot dogs, peanuts, Cracker Jacks. It was pretty straightforward. And now the appeal of the stadium is this whole wide variety of food and just not. It's not designed to be carried around the same way as the stuff in the 80s when I was going.

Andrew Walsh (92:36)

Yeah, because people are coming to the ballpark for things. Like, it was one of the only places where you could get that fancy. What is it, Modi Pizza or whatever. People are coming for these. It's like. And. And that's fine. Like, not everybody who comes to the ballpark is there because they love the game, which totally makes sense. So I. I think it's fine. I'm not, like, trying to, you know, cast aspersions on that, but it is just different. And you're just not going to be, like you said, slinging sushi rolls through the stands.

Luke Burbank (93:02)

I am thinking about. On Thursday. I am thinking about getting one of those fairies.

Andrew Walsh (93:06)

Yeah.

Luke Burbank (93:07)

With some. With some Jojo's in it. That actually looks kind of fun.

Andrew Walsh (93:11)

Yeah, those look really good. Yep. Yeah.

Luke Burbank (93:13)

If. If the next time we dial up, Andrew, and you see, I have a fairy. A little. A little fairy. Fairy. Whatever you want to call it.

Andrew Walsh (93:19)

Very sold. Yeah. Fairy boots.

Luke Burbank (93:22)

But behind me, you'll know that I. I succeeded in my mission. So, anyway. All right, that is gonna do it for today's episode and bring us to the end of our broadcast week. Thank you so much for hanging out with us for all these hours. We're gonna be back here on Monday with more imaginary radio for you, so please do join us for that in the meantime. Meantime, have a great weekend. Take care of yourselves, and please remember, no mountain too tall.

Andrew Walsh (93:42)

And good luck to all. Power out.