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Welcome to Rad History, a podcast about the 80s and 90s. The last time things were relatively normal and chill. I'm Brian McCullough. I thought of another holiday themed episode for you because I thought of toys on a Saturday in, say, 1987. The ritual for my family tended to go like this now and again. Pile into the family car sometime after lunch, probably still in your soccer uniform, the minivan would merge into a slow moving caravan of station wagons and wood paneled wagoneers, all heading toward the same big rectangular box rising out of the strip mall asphalt. You'd see it from across the parking lot, the rainbow block letters, the backwards R, the cartoon giraffe beckoning from the sign like a mascot for childhood itself. It hit you the moment the automatic glass doors slid open, a distinct industrial cocktail of vinyl, cardboard, sugar and floor wax. It was the smell of potential. It was the sensory overload of walking into a warehouse that didn't just sell toys, it seemed to stockpile them for the apocalypse. You were greeted by the towering shelves stocked so high that the boxes on the top tier blurred into a colorful haze near the industrial lighting Your you grabbed a shopping cart. Not a small basket, but a cart deep enough to hold a bicycle, and you entered the racetrack. The floors were bare tile or concrete, no frills, just a kind of fluorescent Runway stretching into the distance. And then the aisles. There was the world of Nintendo Isle, glowing with fiber optic signs where you had to grab a yellow paper slip to claim a video game from a terrifying cage like booth at the front of the store. There were the aisles of pink and purple boxes for Barbie, the walls of blister packed GI Joes, and the bicycles dangling from the ceiling like bats in a cave. For a couple generations of Americans, Toys R Us wasn't just a store. It was a pilgrimage site. It was the physical manifestation of the post war American promise that if you were a good kid and your parents worked hard, you could have everything. But the story of how that place came to exist and why it's mostly gone starts four decades earlier in a much smaller room Underneath a bicycle sh in Washington D.C. in 1948, a GI named Charles Lazarus came home from World War II with no real sense that he was about to redraw the retail map. He was 25, a former cryptographer, the son of a man who fixed and sold used bikes out of the family home in Washington D.C. but what Lazarus did have was a hunch. All his buddies coming back from the war were saying roughly the same thing. They were going to get married, buy a house in the suburbs and start having kids. Aaron Blakemore, writing for history, described how Lazarus listened to those conversations and realized there was a wave coming, a generation of parents who'd need stuff for their babies. So instead of going to college on the GI Bill, he did something more in line with how he'd been raised. He took $5,000, went into the basement space below his father's bike shop on 18th street in Northwest D.C. and opened a little store selling cribs, strollers and and high chairs. The unglamorous infrastructure of the baby boom. He called it Children's Bargain Town. At first, it was exactly what it sounded like, a baby furniture shop. But parents started asking the obvious question, okay, I've got the crib. Where do I get the toys? Lazarus began stocking a few cheap playthings, rattles, small dolls, simple cars, just to see what would happen. What happened was the next day a parent would come back to buy another toy because the first one had broken. That was the epiphany. A crib you sell once, maybe twice to a family. A toy that's a consumable it breaks, the kid gets bored, the next birthday rolls around. Toys were something you could sell over and over to the same household. By the mid-1950s, Lazarus had quietly pivoted. Baby furniture became the side business. Toys became the main event. Lazarus was not the first person to sell toys. He was the first to ask, what if we sold them like groceries? He started expanding. The name changed a few times. Baby furniture and toy supermarket, children's supermarket. But the concept sharpened. The stores got bigger, shelves got taller. He experimented with self service aisles and warehouse style displays. In 1957, he dropped Baby furniture entirely, renamed the company Toys R Us and planted that backwards R in the logo as a kind of semiotic wink. This was a kids world where grammar and adulthood didn't quite apply. Again, supermarkets were the model. Long aisles, pallets of merchandise, fluorescent lights instead of soft lamps, concrete and tile instead of carpet. Toys weren't behind glass or in mahogany cabinets the way they might be in a department store downtown. They were right there, reachable in bulk. Michael Rosenwald at the Washington Post quotes Lazarus summing up the concept in one sentence. What we are is a supermarket for toys. The bet was that American parents flush with post war prosperity, moving to the suburbs, driving station wagons, would respond to selection and price more than atmosphere or service. And they did. The 1950s and 60s were actually a golden era for toys themselves. Mr. Potato Head Barbie, the Easy Bake Oven, Hot Wheels, GI Joe. Iconic brands were being born seemingly every Christmas. At the same time, Japanese factories were cranking out inexpensive tin robots, cars and stuffed animals Lazarus bought by the container load, filling his shelves with things that looked exotic but were cheap enough to stack high and discount. He also brought in a kind of proto Silicon Valley mindset. Decades before data driven retail became jargon, he installed a computerized inventory system that fed sales data from cash registers back to headquarters every day. From his desk, he could see which SKUs were moving and where and reorder accordingly. A retail analyst told the post in 1982 that Toys R Us information systems were revolutionary in concept, comparing them to IBM. That data let Lazarus do something most mom and pop toy stores never could. Squeeze suppliers. He demanded long payment terms, early access to hot products, even exclusives. Author Eric Clark in the Real Toy Story describes how Lazarus effectively turned toy makers into year round manufacturing machines serving his calendar, not theirs. It was the classic big box retail play. By the late 60s he had four stores and $12 million in annual sales. In 1966, he sold the chain to Interstate Stores for $7.5 million, staying on to run the division. When Interstate stumbled into bankruptcy in 1974, largely because of an over aggressive push into discount department stores, it was the toy business that kept the whole thing from collapsing. In 1975, Lazarus was put in charge of the entire company. He sold off the losers, kept the toy stores, and in 1978 reorganized the surviving business around one Toys R Us. That same year, the company went public. It had about $200 million in sales. Ten years later, that number would be 2 billion. To understand how big Toys R Us became, it helps to picture the retail landscape it bulldozed. Before Lazarus, toy retailing was fragmented. You had small family run to shops with a few hundred SKUs. And you had department stores that treated toys as a seasonal thing, something you set up in November, tore down in January and ignored the rest of the year. Toys R Us flipped that on its head. Toys were the whole business year round. The chain used its volume to negotiate deep discounts from manufacturers, as I said, and passed much of that on to consumers. The Walmart model, but also selection. By the 1980s, a typical Toys R Us store carried something like 18,000 different items. Retail analysts began using a term for what Lazarus had created, the category killer. Instead of being one player in a department store's toy section, Toys R Us became the place you went for toys full stop. In a 1998 timepiece, Carl Taro Greenfield called the chain the original category killer, noting that Lazarus had turned it into a nationwide network with 1,400, 462 stores, with roughly 25% of the U.S. toy market by 1990. The success reshaped the entire industry. Toy makers redesigned their packaging around the demands of Toys R Us. Boxes had to stack neatly on high shelves. Graphics had to pop from a distance on wide aisles. Lazarus chain became such a big customer that manufacturers built their production schedules to match its promotional calendar. One industry profile later observed that by the end of the 1980s, Toys R Us had driven its two largest toy store rivals into bankruptcy. Internally, the culture revolved around growth and uniformity. Stores were virtually identical. Giant boxes near busy arterials and malls, but not in the malls, with shelves stacked almost to the ceiling and minimal staff whose main job was stocking, not hand holding. Computers told headquarters what was selling, headquarters told stores what to carry. The centralization was so pronounced that chain store magazines coined a phrase, the Lazarus factor, for the mix of data, obsession and the expansion drive that defined the company. Everyone's using AI agents to automate tasks, manage workflows, and even make a decision or two. But here's the problem. AI agents can mess up and make mistakes. They delete the wrong files, make changes you didn't want, or just go completely off script. Then you're left to clean up the mess. Unless you've got Rubrik Agent Cloud. Rubrik Agent Cloud is the only platform that allows you to monitor, govern, and rewind AI agent actions. One platform to help you unleash more agents faster without the risk. 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Lazarus himself was candid about what motivated him. He once told Forbes, the one enormous advantage that we have over other retailers is that we are in a business that we love. And that love, or at least the enthusiasm for toys, extended into branding. If the stores were spartan, the marketing was anything but. In the early 1970s, Toys R Us introduced a lanky, smiling giraffe named Jeffrey as its mascot. He starred in print ads, then made his way to TV commercials, eventually acquiring a whole cartoon family his wife, Gigi, Kids Junior and Baby G, who showed up in spots that were basically animated toy catalogs. But the masterstroke came in the early 1980s, when the company's ad agency, J. Walter Thompson, set out to create a jingle Kids Could Sing. Copywriter and future Blockbuster novelist James Patterson and colleague Linda Kaplan Thaler have talked in interviews about banging out the tune on a toy piano, trying to think like children. The result, of course, was the earworm that will now be stuck in your head for the rest of the day, a song about not wanting to grow up because you were proudly a Toys R Us kid. The lyrics painted the store as a place where there were a million toys to play with, from bikes to trains to video games. Commercials showed real kids singing it in aisles that looked impossibly vast. All right, look, here you go. I found a version of it that's very, very 1990. As you're about to hear, I Don't Want to Grow Up. Do I Want to Grow up I don't want to grow up Do I want to grow up? I don't want to grow up I'm a Toys R Us kid There's a million toys that Toys R Us and I can play with Trains do video games. That jingle and that giraffe took what could have been a cold warehouse and turned it into something that, in the minds of US children at least, felt almost magical. Parents may have dreaded the meltdowns that happened there, but their kids knew the tune by heart, and one trade article years later called the song the advert jingle of a generation. By the mid-1980s, Toys R Us had become less a store than a stage set for childhood. Saturday trips there were part of the fabric of suburban family life. Birthday parties often ended with a pilgrimage to Toys R Us so the guest of honor could pick something off the shelf. Christmas meant not just catalogs but physical reconnaissance. Kids roamed the aisles, mentally circling what they'd ask Santa for. And Lazarus kept pushing. He launched Kids r us in 1983, applying the same supermarket for everything concept to children's clothing. And later came Babies R Us, which circled back around to his original baby goods idea. But with big box efficiency at its peak in the late 90s, the Toys R Us empire had seven divisions, more than 1400 stores in over 20 countries, and billions in annual sales. From the outside, it looked unstoppable. From the inside, though, the cracks were already forming. Now I know what you're thinking. But the first threat actually wasn't from the Internet. This isn't a Blockbuster Video like story of technology outmoding a retail concept. The idea of an IRL toy store still very much works. The problem was other big box stores. By the 1990s, Walmart, Target and Kmart had discovered something Lazarus already knew. Toys bring in families. But where Toys R Us lived and died on toys, the discounters could treat them as so called traffic builders, selling hot items at or below cost to lure shoppers into the store, then making profit on, say, laundry detergent and underwear. There's a 1998 story from Time magazine titled Turmoil in Toyland that draws a grim picture of this sudden new landscape. Walmart's share of the US Toy business had climbed steadily. Targets had doubled. Recently, Toys R Us share had dropped from around 25% in 1990 to 20% by the end of that decade, and its stock price had been sliced in half in a year. The company, as one analyst told the magazine, was in a knife fight for every dollar. CEO Robert Nakasone put it More bluntly, when you earn a dollar, it's got someone else's blood on it. Meanwhile, Toys R Us was also fighting fires of its own making. Those computerized inventory systems that once gave it an edge could also clog warehouses with slow moving merchand. They weren't managed well. Reporters touring stores in the late 90s described backrooms stacked floor to ceiling with unsold toys tying up capital while discounters beat them on price out front. Customer service, never the chain's strong suit, became a bigger liability as parents grew used to better trained associates at places like Target. And the stores aged poorly. The once stunning aisles began to look dingy, fluorescent, chaotic. The very uniformity that had been an advantage made it hard to reinvent. And then of course, did come E Commerce, because Toys R Us did try to play the Internet game at the peak of the dot com bubble, a startup called Etoys had launched in 1997 and despite having a fraction of the revenue, briefly had a stock market valuation higher than Toys R Us. It was a wake up call. The Internet was coming for retail. Toys R Us had a website, but but it was a disaster. During the Christmas season of 1999, they were overwhelmed by orders. They promised delivery by Christmas and failed spectacularly. Thousands of kids woke up on December 25th with nothing under the tree but an I'm sorry email from Toys R Us. It was a PR nightmare. We will never let this happen again, Toys R Us executives promised. But instead of fixing their own infrastructure, instead of hiring engineers and building warehouses designed for shipping individual boxes, they kind of panicked and punted. Toys R Us made a fateful decision outsourced the future. In the year 2000, it signed a 10 year deal with Amazon to be the exclusive seller of toys and baby products on Amazon, even redirecting ToysRUs.com to Amazon's platform. In return, it paid Amazon tens of millions a year and got to skip the messy business of building warehouses and websites. For a while, the partnership looked like a win win. Amazon got a trusted toy brand on its digital shelves. Toys R Us got online presence without the headaches. But Amazon being Amazon, it also wanted variety. Amazon launched to third party merchants around this time. And so within a few years, other retailers were selling toys on the platform. Even if Amazon itself still was giving exclusivity to Toys R Us. Toys R Us cried breach of contract and sued. A New Jersey court eventually agreed Toys R Us should have had exclusivity, giving it the right to terminate the agreement. And so in 2009, Amazon paid $51 million to Toys R Us to settle on paper. Toys R Us had won, I guess. But in reality, it had spent Most of the 2000s letting Amazon teach American parents to buy toys online while falling a decade behind in learning how to do E commerce itself. At the same time, the company was resorting to more traditional big box tricks to keep profits up. Private label products, store remodels, attempts at more experimental layouts. There were bright spots. Babies R Us especially, was a strong performer. But the core toy business was under relentless pressure from discounters and the growing habit of clicking Buy now. Which is why, in 2005, when a trio of private equity firms showed up with a giant checkbook, Toys R Us executives and board members listened. In July 2005, Bain Capital, KKR and Vornado Realty Trust announced they were taking Toys R Us private in a $6.6 billion leveraged buyout. The deal included the Toys and Babies r US chains, WorldW. On the day the acquisition closed, the press release read like a celebration. The new owners talked about building on the many strengths of Toys R Us as the premier specialty retailer of toys, children's and babies products in the world. They pointed to more than 1500 stores globally, hundreds of Babies R Us locations, and a strong brand that still dominated kids imaginations. What didn't make it into the warm quotes was the other side of a leveraged buyout, which would be the leverage to finance that $6.6 billion price. The buyers loaded Toys R Us with billions in new debt. Over the next decade, the company would be carrying around roughly $5 billion of long term obligations, a weight that might have been manageable for a no growth cash cow utility, but was deadly for a retailer that desperately needed to renovate stores and reinvent its online presence. Basically, the story here is that private equity did what private equity often does. Stores were closed. Real estate was Monet. Fees flowed back to the owners. At least $180 million by some estimates, just from advisory and monitoring charges. Even as the company struggled, there were serious efforts to right the ship. Jerry Storch, a former Target executive, came in as CEO and tried to modernize the chain, building out toysrus.com and experimenting with new store formats. Later, Dave Brandon, fresh from Domino's Pizza's own transformation and Lazarus like rejuvenation, took a turn at the wheel. In a business school podcast years later, Brandon would talk about how frustrating it was to see potential fixes on the whiteboard but lacked the capital to implement them. Hamstrung by the debt his predecessors deals had strapped onto the company. All the while, the ground under retail was shifting. Smartphones turned comparison shopping into a thumb flick. Amazon prime habituated parents to having toys appear on their doorstep two days after the kids saw a YouTube unboxing video. You didn't need to load the kids into a minivan to go to stare at a wall of boxes. You could scroll instead. Toys R Us didn't just have a strategy problem. It had a time and money problem. As Wharton marketing professor Barbara Kahn and her colleagues put it bluntly, the company failed to innovate its business model, incorporate technology, or adapt to changing consumer behavior, even when executives knew what needed to be done. Brighter stores, better training, more creative merchandising. A truly integrated online offline experience. They were writing those plans with an anvil chain to their ankles. By the mid-2010s, if you walked into a Toys R Us, you could feel the fatigue. The bones were still the same as they'd been in 1987 long aisles, concrete floors, a sea of boxes. But the magic was leaking out. Shelf tags were sometimes handwritten. Clearance bins bled into regular sections. The video game area, once the shrine at the back of the store, felt like an afterthought next to GameStop, let alone digital downloads. Competition was everywhere. Amazon in your pocket, Walmart on the highway, Target in the nicer strip mall. Even dollar stores nibbling at the edges with cheap impulse buys. In September 2017, the company finally flinched. Toys R Us filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection, listing more than $5 billion in debt. The stated plan was to restructure, renegotiate with creditors, and emerge in slimmer form. Executives stressed that stores would remain open through the holidays.
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Executives tried to explain that bankruptcy didn't necessarily mean liquidation. Then the holiday season went badly. Vendors spooked by the filing tightened credit and demanded cash up front. Shoppers stayed away from a retailer whose future seemed murky. In early 2018, the company announced it would liquidate its US operations, closing more than 800American stores and hundreds more globally. The world's biggest toy store was, at least on paper, done. The shockwaves hit in two directions inside the toy industry. Manufacturers panicked. For decades, Toys R Us had been the place where mid sized brands got shelf space, where niche products could break out, where year round ordering smoothed out the seasonal boom and bust of toy production. Analysts estimated that a fifth of some toy makers revenue flowed through Toys R Us. A Forbes columnist called its collapse a harsh blow to American toymakers and a rallying cry about the fragility of retail distribution. Out in the suburbs, parents and kids made farewell trips that felt strangely like wakes. Social media filled up with photos of empty Jeffrey statues and half lit signs. The jingle, the one about not wanting to grow up, got quoted and memeified with a dark twist. In the end, the store hadn't grown fast enough. And then there was Charles Lazarus. In March 2018, just days after Toys R Us said it would close its US stores, the company's founder died at age 94. The Washington Post framed the timing as a kind of tragic bookend. The man who had built the empire lived just long enough to watch it crumble. It would be tempting to end the story there, to let the lights click off and the sliding doors close for good. But if there's one thing private equity and brand management firms are good at, it's refusing to let a well known logo stay dead. Yes, the stores went dark, but the brand did not. In 2019, a new entity called True Kids bought the intellectual property of Toys R Us and Babies R Us out of bankruptcy. A couple of experimental smaller format stores opened in the US with an assist from Target on the website side, but they fizzled and closed by early 2021. Then that same year round two brand management firm WHP Global acquired a controlling stake in Tru Kids and set about turning Toys R Us into what the industry now calls an asset light business. Fewer giant stores, more licensing deals and pop ups. More focus on the logo than the real estate. WHP boasted that the Toys R Us and Babies R Us brands brands already generated about $2 billion in annual global retail sales through nearly 900 stores and e commerce sites run by partners in more than 25 countries. The strategy in North America has been kind of a retail afterlife. In late 2021, a new toys R Us flagship opened at the American Dream Mega mall in New Jersey. 20,000 square feet, two stories, complete with an ice cream shop and in store experiences. Another flagship followed at the Mall of America in Minnesota. More importantly, In August of 2021, WHP cut a deal with Macy's Toys R Us sections inside department stores, plus a branded toy presence on Macy's dot com. By 2022, Macy's said there would be Toys R Us departments in all of its US stores ranging from small corners to 10,000 square foot mini stores and big urban flagships. There are now airport stores, a Toys R Us at Dallas Fort Worth for example, and seasonal pop ups in malls and lifestyle centers. WHP has announced plans for a couple dozen new standalone across the US and as of late 2025 you can walk into fresh built locations in places like suburban Illinois or Texas and see a new school Jeffrey presiding over claw machines and shelves of slime and Lego. It's maybe not the same, and it's maybe not supposed to be. These aren't the big box temples of the 80s. They're more like pop up shrines to nostalgia, meant to tap into the emotional capital that the brand still holds for us Gen X and millennial parents. The company that Lazarus built, the vertically integrated data driven warehouse size category killer, is gone. The brand that he named and the giraffe that fronted it live on in smaller doses as a kind of retail ghost. Which raises the question, what did Toys R Us actually leave behind? You can argue about whether Toys R Us kind of had to die. Some observers point to debt and mismanagement. Others say the big box model itself was destined to be hollowed out by online shopping. But you can't argue with the imprint it left left. There are at least three big pieces of its legacy. First, Toys R Us helped invent modern big box retail before Home Depot did it to hardware and Best Buy did it to electronics. Toys R Us did it to Toys Pick a category. Build enormous stores devoted to that category. Use data and volume to negotiate brutal deals with suppliers. Pass some of that savings on to shoppers and drive smaller competitors into the ground. Retail historians routinely cite Toys R Us as the first true category killer. That model shaped the suburbs. Some of us grew up in those huge windowless rectangles near the mall, the ones that might now house a furniture outlet or a Spirit Halloween store. They're the physical artifacts of the Lazarus way of thinking. He proved you could run a national chain from a central computer system using real time sales data to manage inventory decades before that became standard practice. Second, Toys R Us didn't just sell toys. It changed how we kids thought about them. By making toys a year round business, it normalized the idea that you might get a new toy on a random Saturday as easily as at Christmas. No more waiting for the Sears catalog to decide what Voltron Santa was going to get you. It was waiting for you right now in April. And by giving manufacturers a giant showcase, it encouraged them to profile up their ip. More characters, more tie ins on tv, more brand universes. Why do you think there was the rise of toy driven cartoons in the 80s? Toys R Us had a big role in that. He man, Transformers, My Little Pony made a lot more sense economically to have things like that. Once there was a chain that could stock the figures. Those shows were designed to sell every day. And the jingle. And Jeffrey did something subtler. They invited kids to identify not just with a toy, but with a retailer. To say you were a Toys R Us kid was to say something about your place in the consumer universe. It was one of the first mass market campaigns that turned children into a branded demographic, a template that's been copied by everything from fast food chains to streaming apps. And third, Toys R Us downfall became a case study in the limits of leverage and nostalgia. When Toys R Us collapsed, there was a rush to blame Amazon. And sure, E Commerce did hurt. But the postmortems from academics and journalists converge on a more mundane villain. Debt. Private equity. The 2005 leveraged buyout saddled the company with billions in obligations at exactly the moment it needed flexibility to reinvent itself. Fitch Ratings noted that the Toys R Us bankruptcy spiked default rates in retail leveraged loans. Analysts at Axios and elsewhere pointed out that while the business had problems, the capital structure turned those problems into a death sentence. On top of that, the company made strategic choices, particularly the early outsourcing of its online presence to Amazon that traded short term convenience for long term capability. By the time it tried to catch up in digital, others had set the rules. And yet, even in failure, the brand proved weirdly durable. The fact that we're talking about Toys R Us pop ups inside Macy's in 2025 says something about how powerful those childhood associations remain. WHP Global's Asset Light strategy depends on that, the idea that you can separate the emotional aura of a name from the messy business of running big boxes and still make money. For people who grew up in Toys R Us heyday, though, the real legacy is kind of more personal. It's it's that sound of that automatic door whooshing open on a December afternoon. It's the way your breath caught when you turned a corner and saw an entire aisle of Star wars figures or NES games. It's the feeling of clutching a gift card or a crumpled birthday 20 from grandpa, knowing you had the power to choose something off those towering shelves. Charles Lazarus once said the advantage his company had was that it loved the business it was in for a long, long stretch of the late 20th century. That love was returned in the delighted squeals of kids racing down endless aisles. In the end, as one toy industry analyst commented, the tragedy was that quote they failed because they ceased to love toys. Maybe that's the simplest lesson in the whole Toys R Us saga. You can build systems, squeeze suppliers, cut deals with tech platforms, and lever up balance sheets. But if your stores stop feeling like places of wonder if somewhere along the way you forget why kids wanted to go there in the first place, place no amount of nostalgic branding can save you, please, please, please rate and review us on whatever podcast app you're listening to me on right now. It helps people find this show and Happy Holidays. Foreign.
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