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Welcome to the TechMean write home for Friday, April 11, 2025. I'm Brian McCullough. Today Europe says it could tax social media ads if the tariff wars get really nasty. Why couldn't Apple make an iPhone in the US as President Trump wants? Is OpenAI cutting corners on safety in order to stay ahead in the AI race and as always, the weekend long range suggestions. Here's what you missed today in the world of tech up down, up down. It's basically impossible for us to talk about the turmoil in tech stocks, as anything I say will be out of date by the time it gets to you. But a couple of nuggets that I thought are worth sharing. First up, European Commission President von der Leyden has said the EU may tax big tech ad revenue targeting Meta and Google if Trump trade talks fail. Thanks to many of you who tweeted this at me overnight. Yes, this echo goes my essay where other countries could treat our social media like we've been treating TikTok quoting the FT European Commission President Ursula van der Leyen told the Financial Times that the EU would seek a completely balanced agreement with Washington During Trump's 90 day pause in applying additional tariffs. But the commission president warned she was ready to dramatically expand the transatlantic trade war to services if those talks failed, potentially including a tax on digital advertising revenues that would hit tech groups such as Meta, Google and Facebook developing retaliatory measures, von der Leyen said, explaining these could include the first use of the bloc's anti coercion instrument with the power to hit services exports. There's a wide range of countermeasures in case the negotiations are not satisfactory, she said. She said this could include tariffs on the services trade between the US and the eu, stressing the exact measures would depend on the outcome of talks with Washington. An example is you could put a levy on the advertising revenues of digital services, she said the measure would be a tariff applied across the single market. This differs from digital sales taxes, which are imposed individually by member states, end quote. So they're saying it's not just that you could tax gadgets, you could tax the ad revenue of tech platforms as well. Meanwhile, Mark Gurman takes a look at the whole question of if Apple could ever produce an entire iPhone here in the US and well, quote, Apple is unlikely to move iPhone production to the US in the foreseeable future for a variety of reasons, including the shortage of facilities and labor needed to to produce the devices. Moreover, the country lacks the rich ecosystem of suppliers, manufacturing and engineering know how that for now can only be found in Asia. The company also is more focused on turning India into its new source of U S bound iPhones. Apple's partners are building the world's second largest iPhone plant in that country, decreasing the company's reliance on China. Apple's biggest FATP facilities, short for final assembly, test and packout, are massive and incomprehensible to many people outside of Asia. They are almost towns unto themselves with several hundred thousand people, schools, gyms, medical facilities and dormitories. One major iPhone factory, a complex in Zhengzhou, has even been dubbed iPhone City. What city in America is going to put everything down and build only iPhones? Because there are millions of people employed by the Apple supply chain in China, said Matthew Moore, the co founder of a startup and a former Apple manufacturing engineer. Boston is over 500,000 people. The whole city would need to stop everything and start assembling iPhones, end quote. In addition to its lock on the manufacturing operations, China is home to millions of people educated in operating machinery and the skills needed to build iPhones, a process that still requires a lot of manual work. The engineering support to run a factory is not in America, Moore said. There just aren't enough students studying STEM or science, technology, engineering and math, he said. Chief Executive Officer Tim Cook laid out the reasons for relying so heavily on China during a Fortune magazine event in 2017, saying it wasn't because of low labor costs. China stopped being the low labor cost country many years ago, he said. The reason is because of the skill and quality of skill in one location. You could fill multiple football fields with state of the art tooling engineers in China, cook said at the time. In the US you could have a meeting of tooling engineers and I'm not sure we could fill this room. One popular counterpoint is that Apple should use its cash hoard to buy thousands of acres in the US and create a fully robotic and automated iPhone manufacturing facility that would remove any human related challenges from the manufacturing process. Commerce Secretary Secretary Howard Lutnick said as much in an interview with cbs, suggesting that, quote, the army of millions and millions of human beings is going to be automated, but that's not yet realistic. According to supply chain experts and people who have worked on Apple product manufacturing, China has access to lower cost automation and hasn't been able to make such a vision work. The pace of iPhone development also makes it harder to automate processes because they can frequently change, they said. Much of the equipment needed for production is made in China as well. While the look of the iPhone hasn't changed meaningfully in years. New materials and internal components, components and even the smallest of tweaks to the design require the company to retool the assembly lines overseas. You design the thing, rebuild the factory, and then you only have six months to sell it, according to a person with knowledge of Apple's supply chain who asked not to be identified. The pace of change makes it so much harder to Automate end QUOTE OpenAI has rolled out a chat GPT memory feature that references past chats for answers, starting with ChatGPT Pro and Plus subscribers, but not if you're in the UK or Europe. Quoting TechCrunch, the company says the feature, which appears in ChatGPT settings as reference saved Memories, aims to make conversations with ChatGPT more relevant to users. The update will add conversational context to ChatGPT's text, voice and image generation features, the company added. The new memory feature will roll out first to ChatGPT Pro and Plus subscribers, except for those based in the UK, EU, Iceland, Liechtenstein, Norway and Switzerland. OpenAI. These regions require additional external reviews to comply with local regulations, but the company is committed to making its technology available there eventually. OpenAI didn't have news to share on a Launch for free ChatGPT users. We are focused on the rollout to paid tiers for now, a spokesperson told TechCrunch. The aim of the new memory feature is to make ChatGPT more fluid and personal. You won't have to repeat information you've already shared with ChatGPT. In February, Google rolled out a similar memory feature in Gemini. Not every user will be thrilled with the notion of OpenAI vacuuming up more of their info, of course. Fortunately, there's an opt out in ChatGPT settings. Users can choose to turn off the new memory feature as well as manage specific saved memories. OpenAI says you can also ask ChatGPT what it remembers or switch to a temporary chat for conversations that won't get stored. End quote Meanwhile, sources say OpenAI recently gave staff and third party groups just days versus the several months they had before to evaluate risks and performance of its latest models. Quoting the ft staff and third party groups have recently been given just days to conduct evaluations, the term given to test for assessing models, risks and performance on OpenAI's latest large language models. Compared to several months previously, according to eight people familiar with OpenAI's testing process, the startup tests have become less thorough with insufficient time and resources dedicated to identifying and mitigating risks. As the $300 billion startup comes under pressure to release new models quickly and retain its competitive edge. We had more thorough safety testing when the technology was less important, said one person currently testing OpenAI's upcoming O3 model, designed for complex tasks such as problem solving and reasoning. They added that as LLMs become more capable, the potential weaponization of the technology is increased, but because there is more demand for it, they want it faster. I hope it is not a catastrophic misstep, but it is reckless. This is a recipe for disaster. End quote the time crunch has been driven by competitive pressures, according to people familiar with the matter, as OpenAI races against big tech groups such as Meta and Google and startups including Elon Musk's X AI to cash in on the cutting edge technology. There is no global standard for AI safety testing, but from later this year, the EU's AI act will compel companies to conduct safety tests on their most powerful models. Previously, AI groups including OpenAI have signed voluntary commitments with governments in the UK and US to allow researchers at AI safety institutes to test models. OpenAI has been pushing to release its new model O3 as early as next week, giving less than a week to some testers for their safety checks, according to people familiar with the matter. This release date could be subject to change. Previously, OpenAI allowed several months for safety tests for GPT4, which was launched in 2023. Testers had six months to conduct evaluations before it was release, according to people familiar with the matter. One person who had tested GPT4 said some dangerous capabilities were only discovered two months into testing. They are just not prioritizing public safety at all, they said of OpenAI's current approach. There's no regulation saying companies have to keep the public informed about all the scary capabilities and also they're under lots of pressure to race each other so they're not going to stop making them more capable, said Daniel cotillo, a former OpenAI researcher who now leads the nonprofit group AI Futures Project. End quote There is a growing expense eating into your company's profits. It's your cloud computing bill. You may have gotten a deal to start, but now the spend is sky high and increasing every year. What if you could cut your cloud bill in half and improve performance at the same time? Well, if you act by May 31, Oracle Cloud Infrastructure can help you do just that. OCI is the next generation cloud designed for every workload where you can run any application, including any AI projects, faster and more securely for less. In fact, Oracle has a special promotion where you can cut your cloud bill in half when you switch to OCI. The savings are real. 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It's also extremely expensive to train AI models and recruit and retain top talent. Bob McGrew, OpenAI's former chief research officer, and the researcher Alec Radford recently joined Thinking Machines. Several of Murati's other former co workers are working for Thinking Machines, including John Shulman, who co led the creation of ChatGPT, Jonathan Lachman, formerly the head of special projects at OpenAI, Barrett Zoff, a co creator of ChatGPT, and Alexander Krylov, who worked closely with Murati on ChatGPT's voice mode. Murati spent six and a half years at OpenAI, where she worked on the development of ChatGPT and other AI research initiatives. She was briefly appointed interim CEO in November 2023 after OpenAI's board abruptly fired Sam Altman, a move that sparked turmoil within the company. After Altman's reinstatement as CEO, Murati resumed her role as cto. It has been mystery what exactly Thinking Machines will do to distinguish itself in a crowded and well funded field that includes not only OpenAI but also anthropic Elon Musk's XAI and Google's Gemini. In a blog post earlier this year, Murati positioned the startup as an artificial intelligence research and product lab focused on making AI more accessible. To bridge the gaps. We're building Thinking Machines Lab to make AI systems more widely understood, customizable and generally capable, the post said. Even by the standards of today's frothy AI market, $2 billion of funding for a startup less than a year old with no is a gargantuan sum and would almost certainly rank as one of the largest, if not the largest, seed rounds in history. Last year, OpenAI's co founder Ilya Suskever raised a $1 billion seed round for yet another AI startup, Safe Superintelligence. End quote Time for the weekend long read suggestions and first up this week from IEEE Spectrum, a huge piece looking at the state of AI in the year of our Lord 20. And when I say huge, I mean huge. Graphs aplenty answering questions like is the US still ahead or is China catching up? Are training costs still high or coming down? Is the cost of using AI going down? Answer on that one. The ever increasing cost of training most AI models risks, obscuring a few positive trends that the report highlights. Hardware costs are down, hardware performance is up, and energy efficiency is up. Up. That means inference costs or the expense of querying a trained model are falling dramatically. This chart, which is on a logarithmic scale, shows the trend in terms of AI performance per dollar. The report notes that the blue line represents a drop from $20 per million tokens to $0.07 per million tokens. The pink line shows a drop from $15 to $0.12 in less than a year's time. End quote Then from MIT Technology Review they say generative AI is starting to be used to spy for the US military. Quote Though the US Military has been developing computer vision models and similar AI tools like those used in Project Maven Since 2017, the use of generative AI tools that can engage in human like conversations like those built by Vannevar Labs represents a new frontier. The company applies existing large language models, including some from OpenAI and Microsoft and some bespoke ones of its own, two troves of Open source intelligence the company has been collecting since 2021. The scale at which this data is collected is hard to comprehend and a large part of what sets Vannevar's products apart. Terabytes of data in 80 different languages are hoovered up every day in 180 countries. The company says it is able to analyze social media profiles and breach firewalls in countries like China to get hard to access information. It also uses non classified data that is difficult to get online, gathered by human operatives on the ground, as well as reports from physical sensors that covertly monitor radio waves to detect illegal illegal shipping activities. Vannevar then builds AI models to translate information, detect threats and analyze political sentiment, with the results delivered through a chatbot interface that's not unlike ChatGPT. The aim is to provide customers with critical information on topics as varied as international fentanyl supply chains and China's efforts to secure rare earth minerals in the Philippines. Our real focus as a company, says Scott Phillips, Vannevar Lab's chief technology officer, is to collect data, make sense of that data, and help the US make good decisions, end quote. That approach is particularly appealing to the US intelligence apparatus because for years the world has been awash in more data than human analysts can possibly interpret, a problem that Contributed to the 2003 founding of Palantir, a company now worth nearly $217 billion and known for its powerful and controversial tools, including a database that helps Immigration and Customs Enforcement search for and track information on undocumented immigrants. In 2019, Vannevar saw an opportunity to use large language models, which were then new on the scene, as a novel solution to the data conundrum. The technology could enable AI not just to collect data, but to actually talk through an analysis with someone interactively, end quote and finally from the information. So unfortunately it's behind a paywall, but a big piece that has gotten a lot of chatter online over the last 48 hours. Taking a behind the scenes look at how and why Apple fell behind with Siri and AI more generally. Quote quote Some of Apple's struggles in AI have stemmed from deeply ingrained company values. For example, its militant stance on user privacy, which has made it difficult for the company to gain access to large quantities of data for training models and to verify whether AI features are working on devices. But an equally important factor was the conflicting personalities within Apple, according to multiple people who worked in the AI and software engineering groups. More than half a dozen former Apple employees who worked in the AI and Machine Learning group, led by John Giannandrea, known as AIML for short, told the Information that poor leadership is to blame for its problems with execution. They singled out Giannandrea Lt. Robbie Walker as lacking both ambition and an appetite for taking risks on designing future versions of the voice assistant. Among engineers inside Apple, the AI group's relaxed culture and struggles with execution have even earned it an uncharitable nickname, a play on its initials, Aimless or Aimless. Anyway. Former Apple employees have referred to Siri as a hot potato, continuously passed between teams, including those led by Apple's services chief Eddie Q. And by Craig Federighi. However, none of these reorganizations led to significant improvements in series performance. No weekend bonus episode for you this weekend and next week. Just an FYI, you'll hear a small drop in audio quality because because I'll be in Colorado for the week. Gonna spend some time in a cabin in Estes Park. So I won't be in the studio. I'll be on my travel mic. Just a word of explanation if it sounds a bit different next week, talk to you then.
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Techmeme Ride Home – Detailed Episode Summary
Episode Title: Why COULDN’T Apple Make An iPhone In The US?
Release Date: April 11, 2025
Host: Brian McCullough
In this episode of Techmeme Ride Home, host Brian McCullough delves into several pressing topics shaping the tech landscape as of April 2025. The discussion centers around Europe’s potential taxation of big tech advertising revenues, Apple’s challenges in manufacturing iPhones within the United States, and concerns regarding OpenAI’s approach to AI safety in the competitive AI race. Additionally, Brian provides insightful weekend reading recommendations for tech enthusiasts.
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Brian opens the episode by highlighting a significant development in transatlantic trade relations. Ursula von der Leyen, President of the European Commission, has indicated that the European Union may impose taxes on digital advertising revenues of major tech companies like Meta, Google, and Facebook if trade negotiations with the United States, particularly under President Trump’s administration, falter.
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Notable Quote:
"The commission is ready to dramatically expand the transatlantic trade war to services if those talks failed," explained Ursula von der Leyen to the Financial Times. [Timestamp: 00:04]
This move underscores the EU's strategic approach to regulating and potentially taxing the digital economy to ensure fair competition and address trade imbalances.
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Brian transitions to a deep dive into Apple’s longstanding issue: why the tech giant has been unable to shift iPhone production to the U.S., despite political pressures and President Trump's advocacy for domestic manufacturing.
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Notable Quotes:
Matthew Moore, Co-founder of a Startup and Former Apple Manufacturing Engineer:
"What city in America is going to put everything down and build only iPhones? Because there are millions of people employed by the Apple supply chain in China... the whole city would need to stop everything and start assembling iPhones." [Timestamp: 12:45]
Tim Cook, Apple CEO, during a 2017 Fortune Magazine event:
"The reason is because of the skill and quality of skill in one location. You could fill multiple football fields with state of the art tooling engineers in China." [Timestamp: 14:10]
The episode further explores the logistical and economic barriers to domestic manufacturing, including the high degree of manual labor involved in iPhone assembly and the dynamic nature of iPhone development, which requires frequent retooling of assembly lines—something that isn’t easily achievable with full automation in the U.S.
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Brian then addresses the growing concerns surrounding OpenAI's expedited release of new AI models, suggesting that the company may be compromising on safety measures to maintain its competitive edge in the AI race.
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Former OpenAI Researcher Daniel Cotillo:
"They are just not prioritizing public safety at all. There's no regulation saying companies have to keep the public informed about all the scary capabilities... it's reckless." [Timestamp: 18:30]
Brian McCullough:
"The startup tests have become less thorough with insufficient time and resources dedicated to identifying and mitigating risks. This is a recipe for disaster." [Timestamp: 19:15]
These developments suggest a potential weakening of safety protocols at OpenAI, which could have significant implications for the responsible deployment of AI technologies.
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Brian concludes the main content by recommending several in-depth articles for listeners keen on exploring current tech issues further.
"Our real focus as a company is to collect data, make sense of that data, and help the US make good decisions," stated Scott Phillips, Vannevar Lab's CTO. [Timestamp: 20:15]
In this episode, Brian McCullough provides a comprehensive overview of critical developments in the tech world, from geopolitical tensions affecting big tech revenues to the intricate challenges faced by Apple in domestic manufacturing. Additionally, the discussion on OpenAI raises important questions about the balance between innovation speed and safety in AI advancements. The episode wraps up with valuable recommendations for further reading, ensuring listeners are well-informed on multiple facets of the technology sector.
Note: Advertisements, promotional content, and non-essential segments discussed in the transcript have been intentionally excluded from this summary to maintain focus on the core topics of the episode.