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Tech Policy Grind
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On the Tech Policy Grind Podcast, we discuss the most pressing issues at the intersection of law and technology. We chat with friends and fellows of the Internet Law and Policy Foundry about their perspectives on emerging topics in tech law and policy. From AI to cybersecurity, internet governance, privacy, and more - join us weekly to dig into the latest in tech policy!
The Tech Policy Grind was created by Fellows from the Internet Law and Policy Foundry. The Foundry is a collaborative organization for Internet law and policy professionals who are passionate about disruptive innovation.
Reema Moussa is our host and executive producer. Evan Enzer is our editor, Daniela Guzman Peña produces the show, Lama Mohammed is our social and promotional coordinator, and our accessibility coordinator is Allyson McReynolds.
If you’re interested in supporting the show, reach out to us at foundrypodcasts@ilpfoundry.us.
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Making the Case Against Aerial Surveillance, with the ACLU’s Jay Stanley [S5E2]
Mar 1, 202400:34:02Tap to summarizeWelcome to the “Tech Policy Grind” podcast by the Internet Law & Policy Foundry! In this episode, Foundry Fellow Katelyn Ringrose sat down with Jay Stanley, Senior Policy Analyst, at the ACLU’s Speech, Privacy, and Technology Project, to discuss Jay’s work on aerial surveillance law and policy, with a spotlight on the work that the ACLU is doing to keep you safe from eyes in the sky. While these two drone on about aerial surveillance (no pun intended), check out some of the resources listed below. This episode will be part of a mini-series on surveillance law and policy with some amazing future guests, so thank you for listening, and stay tuned for our next episode! DISCLAIMER: Katelyn engaged with this episode by the Internet Law & Policy Foundry voluntarily and in their personal capacity. The views and opinions expressed on this show do not reflect the organizations and institutions they are affiliated with. Bios: Jay Stanley started working on privacy and technology issues at the ACLU five weeks before 9/11. His role at the ACLU is to help the organization think through, monitor, and explain the impact of new technologies on our privacy, free speech and other civil liberties. He has worked on a wide variety of cutting-edge science and technology issues and authored and co-authored a variety of influential ACLU reports, policy papers, and blog posts. Among his current areas of focus are aerial surveillance, digital identity, digital currency, and license plate scanners. Before joining the ACLU, he worked as an analyst at the technology research company Forrester Research, and did graduate studies in 20th century American history at UVA (ABD). As Google’s Global Policy Lead for Law Enforcement and Government Access, Katelyn Ringrose works on any and all issues tied to data governance. Prior to her current position, Katelyn served as the Future of Privacy Forum’s Christopher Wolf Diversity Fellow — working on data privacy and security. Through the International Association of Privacy Professionals, Katelyn holds CIPM, CIPP-EU, and CIPP-U certifications & is a 2021 Fellow of Information Privacy. Katelyn was chosen as a 2022 Out in National Security Leader, and is a former board member for Women in Security and Privacy (WISP) in Washington, DC. She writes about issues tied to state/federal privacy legislation; sensitive personal data; and appropriate safeguards for cross-border transfers. Find Katelyn’s law reviews and articles in Berkeley Tech Law Journal, Berkeley Law Review, Denver Law Review, Notre Dame Journal of Emerging Technology, Notre Dame Law Review, on IAPP and FPF’s websites, and more. Resources: ACLU White Papers Eye-in-the-Sky Policing Needs Strict Limits Press on surveillance in the sky ‘Drones as first responders’ programs need guardrails, says ACLU Key drones-related court cases ACLU v. CBP – FOIA Case for Records Relating to Government’s Aerial Surveillance of Protesters Leaders of a Beautiful Struggle v. Baltimore Police Department
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State of the Net Live 2024: Neurotechnology and Privacy, a New Era of Internet Geopolitics, and the Legal Landscape for Online Expression [S5E1]
Feb 22, 202400:53:41Tap to summarizeWelcome back to the “Tech Policy Grind” podcast by the Internet Law & Policy Foundry! To kick off Season Five, the Tech Policy Grind is bringing you to State of the Net 2024 Live! On February 12, 2024 officials from the executive and legislative branches joined internet and tech advocates in Washington, D.C. to discuss topics such as child online safety, AI regulation and governance, internet access and affordability, the legal and regulatory landscape on online expression, and more. In this episode, we put together three conversations from our live recording at the conference. Foundry alum Lama Mohammed chatted with Jameson Spivack, Senior Policy Analyst, Immersive Technologies at Future of Privacy Forum on the challenges of balancing progress and privacy when it comes to neurotechnologies. Then Senior Foundry fellows Sasa Jovanovic and Daniela Guzman Peña sat down with Colin Crowell, the Senior Advisor & Managing Director of The Blue Owl Group to discuss how internet geopolitics and diplomacy will evolve in the next era of the web. Finally, we had the chance to speak with Nicole Saad Bembridge, Counsel at NetChoice, about the legal landscape for Supreme Court cases this year, which might reframe the boundaries of online expression and platform liability. So sit back, relax, and enjoy a wide-ranging episode that showcases some of the key issues that were discussed at this agenda-setting conference. Thanks for listening, and stay tuned for our next episode! DISCLAIMER: Daniela, Lama, and Sasa engaged with this episode by the Internet Law & Policy Foundry voluntarily and in their personal capacity. The views and opinions expressed on this show do not reflect the organizations and institutions they are affiliated with. Bios: Jameson Spivack: Jameson Spivack leads the Future of Privacy Forum’s work on immersive technologies like extended reality, neurotechnologies, and virtual worlds. He works with a range of stakeholders from industry, civil society, and academia to understand the impact of emerging privacy laws on immersive technologies, and to develop best practices for organizations developing or deploying them. Previously, Jameson was an Associate with the Center on Privacy & Technology at Georgetown Law, where he worked on research and policy advocacy related to algorithmic technologies like face recognition in the criminal legal system. Colin Crowell: Colin Crowell is the Managing Director of The Blue Owl Group. Colin is an international tech policy consultant and the former Vice President of Global Public Policy, Government, & Philanthropy at Twitter. During his 8+ years at Twitter, Colin built an award-winning philanthropy program and engaged with global policymakers and civil society on a range of Internet policy issues. Prior to joining Twitter, Colin worked as Senior Counselor to the Chairman of the Federal Communications Commission and previously spent more than two decades on Capitol Hill drafting telecommunications and Internet laws on the committee staff of then-U.S. Representative (now Senator) Ed Markey (D-MA). Colin was the 2020 Commencement Speaker at the LBJ School of Public Affairs at the University of Texas – Austin. He is a graduate of Boston College with a BA in Political Science and a minor concentration in Computer Science. After college, Colin was a Jesuit International Volunteer in Arequipa, Peru. Nicole Saad Bembridge: As Associate Director of NetChoice’s Litigation Center, Saad Bembridge focuses on NetChoice’s litigation and amicus efforts. She specializes in reviewing federal and state legislation that affect the First Amendment, freedom of speech, Section 230 and AI. Before joining NetChoice, Saad Bembridge worked as a legal associate at the Cato Institute’s Center for Constitutional Studies, where she co-authored twelve appellate amicus briefs, a policy analysis on content moderation paradigms, and provided analysis on a broad range of constitutional and statutory issues of first impression. During law school, she worked at the United Nations and at Georgetown University’s Institute for Technology Law & Policy. Saad Bembridge earned her J.D. from the Georgetown University Law Center, where she was a Technology Law and Policy Scholar. She holds B.A.s in Economics and Piano Performance from the University of Washington, Seattle. Resources: Neurotechnology and Privacy The Neurorights Foundation Risk Framework for Body-Related Data in Immersive Technologies A New Era of Internet Geopolitics The Blue Owl Group Center for Democracy and Technology Electronic Frontier Foundation Telecommunications Act of 1996 Digital Services Act Legal Landscape for Online Expression Moody v. NetChoice, LLC NetChoice, LLC v. Paxton Murthy v. Missouri National Rifle Association of America v. Vullo Lindke v. Freed and O’Connor-Ratcliff v. Garnier
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The Tech Policy Grind Signs Off (For Now!) [S4E38]
Dec 29, 202301:07:43Tap to summarizeThis final episode of the Tech Policy Grind season 4 stars Class Four Internet Law & Policy Foundry Fellows Meri Baghdasaryan, Lama Mohammed, and Reema Moussa one last time before their fellowship with The Foundry ends in January. In this episode, the fellows reflect on the highlights of 2023, including the growth of the podcast, the Foundry’s participation in the State of the Net, and our renowned Trivia Night. Meri, Lama, and Reema share their 2024 plans, and some of the Class Four Fellow’s favorite memories at The Foundry, including a star feature from Joseph Catapano. Listeners will also get a sneak peek into Season 5 from the show’s new co-executive producers, Class Five Fellows Evan Enzer and Daniela Guzmán Peña. Finally, thank you to our Class Four Fellows for all of your valuable contributions to the Tech Policy Grind and to the Foundry! Resources in this episode: State of the Net 2023 ICANN IAPP Check out the Foundry on Instagram, Twitter, or LinkedIn and subscribe to our newsletter! If you’d like to support the show, donate to the Foundry here or reach out to us at foundrypodcasts@ilpfoundry.us. Thanks for listening, and stay tuned for our next episode! DISCLAIMER: Reema Moussa, Lama Mohammed, Meri Baghdasaryan, Joseph Catapano, Rebeeca Kilberg, Evan Enzer, and Daniela Guzman Peña engage with the Foundry voluntarily and in their personal capacities. The views and opinions expressed on air do not reflect on the organizations Reema, Lama, Meri, Joseph, Rebecca, Evan and Daniela are affiliated with.
Transcribe →How to Start a Tech Policy Podcast and Other Stories with Reema Moussa [S4E37]
Dec 21, 202300:38:15Tap to summarizeThis week, Meri Baghdasaryan sits down with Reema Moussa, the host and producer of this podcast. Reema is currently a third-year J.D. Candidate at the USC Gould School of Law focused on cybersecurity, privacy, internet governance, trust & safety, and other tech law and policy issues. In this episode, Meri takes Reema through an introspective conversation about Reema’s journey as a law student and an ILPF Fellow, as the fellowship (and her time in law school) comes to an end. In addition, Reema reflects on her path to internet law and policy, starting with a formative college internship at the International Telecommunication Union in Geneva, which sparked her interest in international law, AI policy, and cyberwarfare. She then explains how she has found a niche at the nexus of cybersecurity & privacy, trust & safety, business, and the law over the last several years. Then, Meri and Reema get into her experience as a Foundry fellow and executive board member. She also highlights some of her other internships and organizations she’s been involved in. Reema discusses her passion for being a bridge between professional communities and her goal of harnessing communication as a lawyer to drive innovation. As a tech optimist at heart, she discusses how she balances her motivation to use the law to protect people from the potential harms or abuses of technology, with her belief that technology can ultimately make the world better. Resources mentioned in the episode: International Telecommunication Union University of California Santa Barbara, Women in Cybersecurity World Summit on the Information Society Conference AI for Good Conference Future of Privacy Forum Electronic Frontier Foundation ABA AntiTrust Section – Privacy and Information Security Committee Sentinel One Intellectual Property and Technology Law Clinic at University of Southern California Gould School of Law Goodwin Procter VMCA Advogados California Lawyers Association, Privacy Section LA County Bar Association, Privacy and Cybersecurity Section Internet Law and Policy Foundry Leading from the Heart Foundation (coming in 2024) Check out the Foundry on Instagram, Twitter, or LinkedIn and subscribe to our newsletter! If you’d like to support the show, donate to the Foundry here or reach out to us at foundrypodcasts@ilpfoundry.us. Thanks for listening, and stay tuned for our next episode! DISCLAIMER: Reema Moussa and Meri Baghdasaryan engage with the Foundry voluntarily and in their personal capacities. The views and opinions expressed on air do not reflect on the organizations Reema and Meri are affiliated with.
Transcribe →A 2023 Privacy Law Update with Keir Lamont and Divya Sridhar [S4E36]
Dec 14, 202301:13:16Tap to summarizeWelcome back to the Tech Policy Grind podcast! This week, Reema chats with Keir Lamont (Future of Privacy Forum) and Divya Sridhar (BBB National Programs) on the core 2023 privacy law updates you need to know. They cover updates since Keir was on the show last year discussing his 5 key predictions for 2023 – including how those predictions panned out, what actually happened, and what’s coming up in 2024. As the Director of Privacy Initiatives at BBB National Programs, Divya’s portfolio encompasses the design, development and launch of multiple industry self-regulation privacy programs. She is a seasoned leader who previously served in numerous capacities at think tanks, private companies, and nonprofits leading government affairs and policy work. Keir Lamont (CIPP/US) is the Director of the Future of Privacy Forum’s U.S. Legislation team. In this role he supports research and independent analysis concerning federal, state, and local consumer privacy laws and regulations. Keir previously held positions at CCIA and the Program on Data and Governance at Ohio State University. He holds a J.D. from Georgetown University Law Center and a B.A. from the University of Florida. You can check out Keir’s blog post on questions for 2024, last year’s episode, Divya’s articles mentioned, and other useful resources below. Resources mentioned: Privacy Legislation in 2023: What’s Coming in the New Year? with Keir Lamont [S3E28] Five Big Questions (And Zero Predictions) for the U.S. State Privacy Landscape in 2024 DAAP Decisions and Guidance Not So Sweet Sixteen: Teen Privacy Considerations and Injunction Junction: Considerations with 1A and the Age Appropriate Design Code BBB National Programs Comments to the NTIA/White House on teen privacy. Taking a risk-based approach to health data privacy (iapp.org) New WA Consumer Health Law Drives Call to Action: Adopt Robust Standards in the Health B2C Marketplace AI in Hiring and Recruiting Principles and Protocols Check out the Foundry on Instagram, Twitter, or LinkedIn and subscribe to our newsletter! If you’d like to support the show, donate to the Foundry here or reach out to us at foundrypodcasts@ilpfoundry.us. Thanks for listening, and stay tuned for our next episode! DISCLAIMER: Reema engaged with this episode by the Internet Law & Policy Foundry voluntarily and in her personal capacity. The views and opinions expressed on this show do not reflect the organizations and institutions she is affiliated with.
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