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Justin and Jason talk about how Justin thought it was Independence Day for real, his early life as a struggling musician, and the story of how he hustled his way into the technology industry, Math Academy's Twitter/X push, recent growth and future goals, Colby the intern and the possibility of bringing on a freelance developer, Ray Kurzweil's new book The Singularity Is Nearer, the show Time Trap, season 3 of The The Bear, and the movie No Hard Feelings, why Jason couldn't stand watching the series Palm Royale, the 30 for 30 documentary on Lance Armstrong, and the series Tour de France Unchained. Artwork by https://sonsofcrypto.com. Join our Discord, chat with us and fellow listeners! https://discord.gg/2EbBwdHHx8

Justin and Jason interview Jeff Atwood, co-founder of Stack Overflow and the Stack Exchange network, about how he got started as a coder and his passion for programming and mentoring, how he and Joel Spolsky came up with the idea for Stack Overflow, his belief in free software and the Open ID initiative, the process of raising venture capital for Stack Exchange and his views of entrepreneurship, why he and Joel stopped doing the Stack Overflow podcast and whether they might start up again, and the hardest step when scaling a web app.