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I've walked a lot in these shoes today. These souls have ground into the pavement of downtown Minneapolis, the rubber mats of my car, the linoleum of a gas station bathroom, and the play doh crusted carpet of a daycare. Embedded in the tread smear, a toddler booger. Little leftover norovirus. Maybe. Maybe if I'm really lucky. Little fleck of dog poop makes you sick just thinking about it, right?
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Hey, y'. All, Elise here. That shock and awe you just heard from the audience is because Katherine, who until this moment was holding her shoe in her hand, had just licked the bottom of her dirty shoe and then put it back on.
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So, yeah, that happened. And while you may not have tasted what I just tasted, you felt what I felt. Your sympathetic nervous system activated, increasing your heart rate and tensing your muscles. Your anterior insula flared, creating a feeling of disgust, little nausea, slight gag reflex. Am I going to get sick now? I don't know. But I do know. I am so glad you're uncomfortable. Congratulations, truly. Because that discomfort, that is the first essential step to creating confident kids. And you can trust me on this one. I make kids uncomfortable for a living. This week I had an 8 year old stab me with a needle twice, took a kid into a basement on a spider safari and played Uno on the bathroom floor with an understandably reluctant teen. It's only Wednesday now. I'm not doing this stuff because I'm an evil psychologist. I'm doing this because as a pediatric anxiety and OCD expert, I'm a professional bravery coach. I'd like to tell you about a kid that I worked with years ago named Sammy. Sammy was this sweet little third grade stringbean who lived for adventure. Bright, curious, optimistic, could tell you everything you honestly never needed to know about airport design. But Sammy had a bees. His brain appreciated bees, vital pollinators. His body, however, reacted like they were flying yellow needles with some anger issues. As soon as those leaves turned green, Sammy would initiate his own personal bee safety protocol. No sweets outside, social distancing from the flowers, even staying inside during his family's cabin trips. When Sammy got to me, he and his parents had tried everything to get rid of this anxiety, deep breathing, distraction. No luck. They had also debated the fear. Endlessly. His parents would reassure him. You won't get stung, Sammy reminded his parents they were not fortune telling wizards in four how do you know this phobia was stealing Sammy's childhood? One sunny summer day, at a time when I sing Happy Birthday with a cringing 12 year old as loudly as possible in the grocery store produce section, when I rank order photos of vomit by chunk level or yes, when I lick my own dirty shoes, I don't just do it for fun. Although, believe it or not, sometimes it's very fun. I do it for kids like Sammy because there is a method to this madness. And after a decade of clinical practice helping kids be brave, it's become clear to me that the method, exposure therapy, isn't just the gold standard treatment for child anxiety and ocd. It is a secret parenting playbook for raising kids that thrive. I want to share that secret playbook with you today. But before we talk about what to do, we need to talk about what we are up against. It's a wild, worried world out there, folks. According to the National Survey of Children's Health, pediatric anxiety diagnoses rose by nearly 30% from 2016 to 2019. And that was before COVID But you don't need stats or lists. You have felt this because thanks to evolutionary biology, when kids get anxious, adults get anxious too. Now I have two girls and home is the hardest clinic that I have to work in. When one of my little gals looks up at me with the big teary eyes, AKA the mommy bat signal, my nervous system does the same thing that yours does. It responds as though I have discovered that the kitchen is on fire. The amygdala, the watchdog in our brain, starts barking and the fight or flight system kicks in and adrenaline surges and there is this instant magical transfer of distress. Her emergency becomes my emergency. And in an emergency, what do you do you rescue the child now? I am proof that professional degrees do not make you immune to this. In my eldest daughter's four short years of life, I have become a one woman emotional SWAT team more times than I can count. I've answered questions for my daughter when she clams up with a new adult. I've sacrificed my sleep and allowed our little human space heater into the big bed for the night. I have forfeited all privacy while peeing because even that closed bathroom door feels too far away. Now all of this is what I call parenting for comfort. And it is the single most natural and well meaning and deeply flawed thing that we do in the anxiety treatment world. Parenting for comfort has another accommodation. In my office, it looks like the parents who removed the everything green from the house because green meant vomit. In Sammy's case, it looked like kind, loving parents who altered family plans from outdoor fun to indoor fun. No picnics at the park, no meals on the deck at the cabin. Parenting for comfort is not limited to the parents of anxious kids. It's also the common thread in the last 30 years of parenting trends, from the helicopter parenting of yore to the gentle parenting of today. All of it is rooted in this idea that healthy is a synonym for happy. But I have watched this approach play out hundreds of times in my office, and I can tell you there are three big problems with parenting for comfort. First, it places an incredible burden on parents. It turns us into this stressed out member of the Feeling Secret Service tasked with controlling something we just can't another person's emotional experience. Second, it teaches kids that hard feelings are an emergency. When we cancel that picnic in July or open the bathroom door midstream, we may not say it, but our actions shout, this feeling is a problem. Third, it doesn't work. We can't eliminate the pain or mistakes of childhood. They're a part of the process of growing up. We cannot guarantee emotional comfort when discomfort is a side effect of being alive. If life won't promise comfort, our parenting can't either. Instead of parenting for comfort, we need to be parenting for confidence. When you parent for confidence, you flip the script. Our goal is not to get rid of anxiety, uncertainty or distress. Our goal is to build coping efficacy, what I call handleability. This deep in your bones belief, I can handle it. That is the heart of exposure therapy and the key to raising kids that thrive. Not avoiding hard feelings, but experiencing them and still saying, I can do this. Our kids don't require a comfortable life. They need comfort with discomfort. So how do you do this? How do you parent for handleability? When Sammy got to me, all that he and his parents had tried hadn't really worked, and he was waiting to see if I would waste his time too. But I surprised him rather than reassurance or relaxation or distraction. With Sammy and with hundreds of other kids, I use the recipe that exposure therapists have relied on for A, B Bengals C. Anxiety plus bravery equals confidence. Notice anxiety is not the problem. It's a core ingredient. It's actually central to how the brain learns safety through what's called inhibitory learning. Bravery only rewires the brain when fear is present. No one gets confident they can handle hard stuff without handling hard stuff. I explained to Sammy that worry is a bossy bully. But bullies stop messing with you once you say no. In order to shrink worry, he needed to show that bully who's boss through practice. Being brave. Now, of course, Sammy was immediately convinced by my explanation and was like, ah, yes, Kathryn, absolutely. Give me some bees. No. Oh my gosh. He was like, thanks. Hot take. I will consider that. But this is where grown ups come in. A growing body of research from Yale Child Study center and others shows that we as parents can change child anxiety just by changing our own behavior. If we parents go from prioritizing comfort through accommodation to prioritizing confidence through practice, we can make it much more likely that kids will take that leap into brave action. Parenting for confidence means supporting kids at each step of the ABC recipe. It means creating opportunities for anxiety through adventure. No kid jumps off the high dive if you never take them to the pool. I asked Sammy's parents to give him some confidence building opportunities by resuming their family's summer fun. Walk to ice cream, smell the flowers, eat the watermelon on the cabin deck. Parenting for confidence also means be the bravery you wish to see in your child. Show your kid that they can handle this by modeling it. Do the scary thing. Sammy's parents didn't make Sammy go outside on the deck, but they did go out there and enjoy some watermelon. Despite the wasp. This is jumping in the pool and showing the water's fine. Third, we need to celebrate confidence building actions. Cheer for and reward those brave steps. Brave is hard work, and hard work deserves reward. Sammy built a bravery ladder to face his fears. It went from bee pictures to videos to Dan. Dan is a deadbeat in a jar in my office. And finally, real bees. Each step earned brave points, which Sammy cashed in for trips to new restaurants. Now, at this point, a warning parenting for confidence is brave parenting. It asks for bravery from kids, yes, but it requires bravery from parents. Watching your kid panic before the hockey game and sending them out onto that ice anyway. Asking them to eat in the den of snakes that is a middle school lunchroom. Or if you are me, peeling your protesting 1 year old off your body, passing them to a teacher at daycare, and then walking out the door before bursting into tears. This is incredibly emotionally hard. These actions ask us to place a bet on our child's ability to cope when they themselves are screaming, don't bet on me. But here's a secret. The same way this anxious kids can transfer their anxiety to adults, adults can transfer their own confidence to kids, thanks to social referencing, or how kids look to adults to gauge safety. If we stand our ground and remain calm, we can lend our kids a nervous system. Our job during that wave of anxiety is not to get kids off the ride, but to be their warm, steady anchor. A lap bar on the roller coaster of distress. The secure base that says, come what may, I love you. I will always love you, no matter what. So you want confident kids? Let them struggle, not suffer. Struggle. Because confidence doesn't come from praise or protection. It comes from practice. Practice being scared and doing it anyway. It is hard, but it's worth it. Because here's the best Bravery is contagious. One act of courage lights the way for the next. Not just for your kid, but for the people around them. The kid who faces their fear of bees doesn't just play outside again. They raise their hand in class. They try out for the school play. They speak up when something is wrong, because they start to ask, what else am I capable of? And when they do, someone else gets a little braver too. By facing fear to do what matters, you give others the faith that they can do the same. That is why this work matters. Not just so your child feels less anxious, but because all of our children are inheriting a world of hard, complicated problems. Polarized communities, economic disruption, global uncertainty. These challenges won't be solved by people who need to feel good before they act. They'll be solved by people who can say, this is hard, but I can handle it. In short, brave people parenting for confidence is not a luxury. It is a legacy. Because brave parenting creates brave kids. And brave kids are the ones that will change the world. So what happened with Sammy? That is the kid that wouldn't take an apple on a walk. He looks good in the suit, doesn't he?
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Jumping back in quickly to describe the image that just flashed on the screen behind Catherine, we see Sammy in a full beekeeper suit which is covered by real bees. You just make out his face through the hooded net and he is smiling.
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There he is. And actually here he is and he is not alone.
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The audience jumps into applause as Sammy walks on stage followed by a a group of young people all carrying signs with words that describe their personal fears like flying germs and the dark. They stand around Kathryn.
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Friends, meet your world changers. And while you look up here at all of this bravery, think of the kids that you know and love. What sign do you want that child to be able to hold six months from now or ten years from now? What sign will you hold to show them the way? What shoe are you ready to lick? Revolutions begin with one person doing something hard on purpose where others can see. So please, let's get uncomfortable together, let's thrive together, and let's raise them brave. Thank you.
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That was Katharine Hecht at TEDxMinneapolis in 2025. If you're curious about Ted's curation, find out more@ted.com curationguidelines and that's it for today. TED Talks Daily is part of the TED Audio Collective. This talk was fact checked by the TED Research team and prod produced and edited by our team, Martha Estefanos, Oliver Friedman, Brian Greene, Lucy Little and Tansika Songmanivong. This episode was mixed by Christopher Faizy Bogan. Additional support from Emma Tobner and Daniela Balarezo. I'm Elise Hu. I'll be back tomorrow with a fresh idea for your feed. Thanks for listening.
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This episode is brought to you by Capital One. Capital One's tech team isn't just talking about multi agentic AI. They already deployed one. It's called chat Concierge and it's simplifying car shopping using self reflection and layered reasoning with live API checks. It doesn't just help buyers find a car they love, it helps schedule a test drive, get pre approved for financing and estimate trade in value. Advanced, intuitive and deployed. That's how they stack. That's technology at Capital One.
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