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Episode: 3 habits to practice curiosity — and escape your phone | Nayeema Raza
Date: March 12, 2026
Host: Elise Hu
Guest/Speaker: Nayeema Raza
Overview
This episode features journalist and podcast host Nayeema Raza, who explores how digital devices hijack our attention and sense of connection in daily life. Rather than framing technology as the enemy, Raza argues for reclaiming human habits—specifically, curiosity, presence, and open questioning—as antidotes to digital distraction. She shares practical advice drawn from personal experience and her work, offering listeners tools to restore meaningful connections with themselves and others, both for the current generation and the next.
Key Discussion Points & Insights
The Paradox of Modern Connection (04:42–06:14)
- Raza contrasts digital versus real-life interactions by recounting a conversation with 11-year-olds Sophie and Dylan. Sophie observes that FaceTime or playing online makes her feel "more like with them..." than being together in real life, because everyone tends to be on their phones when physically present.
- Raza underscores this as a modern paradox:
“When we are together physically, we are each alone on our phones. But when we're in our phones, that's when we can be together.”
- The phenomenon is not exclusive to children—it affects everyone, including Raza herself.
The ‘Mundane’ Tech Apocalypse (06:28–06:36)
- Raza challenges the cinematic notion of a “tech apocalypse,” suggesting that the real threat is the ordinary ways technology erodes our attention, agency, and relationships:
"It is sexy to think that the tech apocalypse is Arnold Schwarzenegger and the Terminator, but it could be so much more mundane than that. Just us driven in circles, held hostage by dropdown menus… with gadgets disintermediating us from each other, from our own bodies and from our curiosities."
Three Old Habits to Reclaim Human Connection (07:33–08:44)
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Raza presents three actionable habits to “reconnect with what matters”:
- Pause: Take just one second before reaching for your phone. Research shows it helps your brain function better.
- “Studies show waiting that long before taking action lets your brain work better.” (07:38)
- Wonder: Resist the instant urge to Google. Let curiosity float instead of drowning in information.
- “Watch a movie without googling who that actor is… You can float in your own curiosity instead of drown in information.” (08:15)
- Ask Out Loud: Have real conversations again, ask questions—even “dumb” ones—rather than looking everything up.
- “Have that fight at a dinner party instead of playing footsie with your phone. Ask something to someone you thought you couldn't learn from or someone you think you know everything about. Because the dumbest thing we can be is know-it-alls.” (08:24)
- Pause: Take just one second before reaching for your phone. Research shows it helps your brain function better.
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Raza reflects on losing her father and realizing that, at life’s critical moments, old habits—pausing, wondering, asking—matter more than data and devices.
Generational Shifts and Tech Awareness (15:10–16:09)
- Raza notes that children are aware of the risks of tech, sometimes more so than adults, and predicts a societal re-evaluation of screens similar to attitudes toward cigarettes.
"They seem more knowledgeable than us about the risks of it..."
"Fast forward 20 years... we're going to look at these screens, these screens, the way we looked at cigarettes." (15:26)
Inquiry as a Mode for Connection (16:41–19:54)
- Raza describes her interview technique with both adults and children: not imposing views, but asking open questions to invite deeper reflection. Genuine inquiry helps people realize their own perspectives and connections.
- She relates this to her journalism approach, criticizing “opinion journalism” and the loss of trust in media. She advocates for a return to curiosity-driven, question-based reporting.
Curiosity, Trust, and Connection (20:04–21:14)
- Curiosity fosters both learning and trust: when people are in a “curiosity mindset,” they not only learn more but build better connections.
“The act of curiosity and… being willing to be wrong or to not know… creates, like, a physical space that I feel… we can learn together.” (20:04)
The Value—and Vulnerability—of Dumb Questions (12:53, 21:31–23:06)
- Raza explains her podcast’s ethos (“Smart Girl Dumb Questions”):
“Inviting curiosity... suspending certainty... you change the other, you change yourself, and you change the space between you.” (20:23)
- Notable anecdote: Geoffrey Hinton, “the godfather of AI,” admits he “[doesn’t] really understand what his life’s work has been, how the brain really works.” (22:40)
- Celebrating the humility and playfulness in admitting not-knowing, Raza says:
“We really lose [the space of not knowing] as adults. Not because we're not curious ...but because we simply stop noticing. Because there is a more expedient way to know something, and because it appears strong to know something.” (23:06)
Looking to the Future: Tech and Humanity (23:50–24:54)
- Raza’s next big question:
“Do you think that the future of humanity is cyborg?” (23:50)
- She’s fascinated by questions of transhumanism, AI integration with human life, and the potential generational shift toward “Homo machinist.”
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
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On paradoxical connection:
"When we are together physically, we are each alone on our phones. But when we're in our phones, that's when we can be together."
— Nayeema Raza (05:29) -
On the subtle tech apocalypse:
"It is sexy to think that the tech apocalypse is Arnold Schwarzenegger and the Terminator, but it could be so much more mundane than that..."
— Nayeema Raza (06:29) -
On pausing for presence:
"Studies show waiting that long before taking action lets your brain work better."
— Nayeema Raza (07:38) -
On the value of questions:
“Because the dumbest thing we can be is know-it-alls.”
— Nayeema Raza (08:24) -
On the essential nature of curiosity:
“Curiosity is, like, at the heart of that. Not for play, not for show, but you’re genuinely actually curious about something.”
— Nayeema Raza (20:23) -
On generational change:
"Fast forward 20 years, we're going to look at these screens the way we looked at cigarettes."
— Nayeema Raza (15:26) -
On vulnerability among experts:
“Geoffrey Hinton… said he still doesn’t really understand what his life’s work has been, how the brain really works.”
— Nayeema Raza (22:40)
Segment Timestamps
- [04:42] – Raza interview with kids, paradox of digital/physical presence
- [07:33] – Three practical habits: pause, wonder, ask
- [08:44] – Personal story about her father, value of old habits
- [12:53] – Raza on “dumb questions” and her journalistic approach
- [15:10] – Generational awareness, kids vs. adults on tech risks
- [16:41] – Inquiry and conversation as tools for connection and learning
- [20:04] – Curiosity as a pathway to connection and plasticity
- [23:50] – Big future question: “Is humanity becoming cyborg?”
- [25:38] – Raza’s closing invitation: revive dinner table debates and conversation
Takeaways & Calls to Action
- Embrace Curiosity and Presence: Raza urges listeners to pause, to wonder, and to rediscover the joy of open questions—both to revive personal relationships and to model these habits for younger generations.
- Practice Out-Loud Questions: Don’t fear being the one to ask; vulnerability and not-knowing can spark the richest connections.
- Make Space for Inquiry: Whether at work, home, or among friends, create space for discussion and avoid defaulting to digital distraction.
- Challenge Certainty: True intelligence lies in the willingness to learn, adapt, and be open—not in merely knowing.
“I hope they will feel empowered and I hope they will fight at the dinner table. I hope they will have conversations out loud again and ask the question and get into it in conversation versus on their screen.”
— Nayeema Raza (25:38)
This episode offers a compelling, human-centered counterpoint to the narrative of technological doom—reminding us that small, intentional habits can reinvigorate curiosity and real connection in an AI-driven world.
