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You're listening to TED Talks Daily, where we bring you new ideas to spark your curiosity every day. I'm your host, Elise Hu. You've probably seen in the grocery store the salad dressing bearing the face of actor Paul Newman. It's called Newman's Own, and it turns out the brand gives 100% of its profit to purpose driven causes. All of it. In her 2024 talk, the president and CEO of Newman's Own foundation, Alex Amuyel, sheds light on the ingredients it takes for other companies to follow suit.
Madison H.
I was at a restaurant in Miami a few months ago in the now super trendy Wynwood district. Right at the center of the menu, I noticed a $26 cauliflower topped with goat's cheese and shishito herb vinaigrette. Now, $26 for cauliflower might already make you angry, but what my friends and I found particularly absurd was the restaurant's proud announcement that if you purchased this one dish, they would give 1% of the proceeds to environmental nonprofits. So let's do the math. That's 26 cents. And we can solve climate change. Yay. And it was just this one dish on the menu. You wanted to order the burrata with sudachi green tomatoes. Tough luck for the planet. This restaurant is not the only culprit when it comes to paying lip service to corporate. Giving. This type of greenwashing, in my mind, is worse than doing nothing because it obscures who's doing really good work from who's good at marketing the very little that they do. So you have to read the labels and the fine print. And I have to admit, this is an occupational hazard of mine. I am the president and CEO of Newman's Own foundation, and our mission is to nourish and transform the lives of children who face adversity. What makes us unique is that the foundation owns a food company. 100% of the profits and royalties from the sale of Newman's Own product go to the foundation in service of our mission. So when we put cauliflower on our pizza, it's 100%. We give away. Not 1%. When I tell people what I do for a living, the most common reaction I get is, wow, I grew up with your salad dressing in my refrigerator, but I had no Idea you gave 100% of profits away. 100%?
Alex Amouyel
Really?
Madison H.
You should put that on the label. Yes, we do put that on the label. Every label. But I understand the confusion. Our message sometimes gets lost in a sea of greenwashed products to the point that it's almost unbelievable when we say we give 100% away, but we've been doing this for 40 years. And I realize it sounds unbelievable or even radical to build a business and then give all the money away. But you know what sounds more unbelievable to me? That we live in a world where children still go to school hungry. A world where only the fortunate few win the lottery of birth and have the choice with what they do with their waking hours. So when we have that choice, why would we choose to build organizations to optimize click rates to get us addicted to stuff we don't need just to maximize shareholder value. Why not build organizations set up to maximize impact? We need different models, systems, and institutions. And I firmly believe organizations like ours that are 100% for purpose can show us the way. They can serve as proof points for doing business, philanthropy, and, yes, capitalism differently. And this is not about tearing capitalism down. On the contrary, it's about using its mighty power for justice. Bold ambition, I know. And it all starts with salad dressing. Or as our founder Paul Newman would say, using salad dressing for shameless Exploitation in pursuit of the common good. Paul Newman, actor, race car driver, activist, and a man obsessed with good salad dressing. Obsessed. So much so that he decided to turn his obsession into a business. Paul and his friend Hoch invested $40,000 of their own funds to get Newman's Own started. After a year, they had turned a profit of $300,000. That surprised them. Rightfully so is the type of quick return even a venture capitalist would be delighted with today. But it's what Paul did next that most surprised him. He gave it all away. So since 1982, Paul and Newman's Own have given away over half a billion dollars to good causes. And this helped spark what I call the 100% for purpose movement. Our 100% for purpose club is small but mighty. Patagonia joined our ranks a few years ago. There's also Grameen in Bangladesh, Humanatics from Australia, and the Self Employed Women's association in India, founded by activist Elbak, which now counts over 2 million members. 100% for purpose organizations combine the best of the for profit and nonprofit business models. They can be organizations truly devoted to serving people and the planet while still operating sustainably. They also avoid the pitfalls of both models constantly having to beg for money in the nonprofit world or having to put shareholder interest above all else, no matter the cost to the planet and its inhabitants. So how do you make 100% for purpose business working practice? I told you this was about salad dressing. And so just like any good salad dressing is the alchemy of the right ingredients. First ingredient make a profit. Sounds obvious, but we know many companies who never have. And listen, this is not about making a profit in your first year. But you have to remember, if your goal is to give away as much money as you can, you want a good business and product with steady positive cash flow. From Australia, Adam McCurdy and Josh Ross set out to create a 100% for purpose business from the ground up. They founded an event ticketing company called humanitx. Not because they thought, wow, ticketing, such a cool industry. On the contrary, they saw a promising market because people hate ticketing platforms with high fees, bad customer service and monopolistic trading practices. One of these companies recently got into trouble with the U.S. justice Department and Taylor Swift. Honestly, I don't know which one is worse. People thought Adam and Josh were also radical because they built a high growth tech business without taking $1 from venture capital. But I'm happy to say that in eight years they're profitable and have already given away close to $7 million in grant funding. Which brings me to ingredient number two. Raise money right. You can't give away 100% of your profits today or in the future if you give away control to investors who are not aligned with your vision. Yvonne Chouinard, the founder of Patagonia, declared Earth to be the company's only shareholder in September 2022 to great fanfare. He could only do this because he had kept Patagonia private for over 50 years. And let me be clear, this doesn't mean you can't raise money as 100% for purpose business. By definition, you're trying to be cash flow positive. That makes you attractive to banks and lenders for loans. You can also tap into sources few for profits typically have access to grants and impact investments, for example. All of this brings me to ingredient number three. Reverse the governance. People often assume that as I head up a corporate foundation, I report into the food Company CEO. It's actually the opposite, and that makes all the difference. When Paul died in 2008, he gifted the food company to the foundation. That was heavily discouraged at the time. Congress had passed a law in 1969 making it hard for foundations to own more than small stakes in for profit businesses. To close a tax loophole, Newman's Own worked with legislators to support the passing of the Philanthropic enterprise Act in 2018, paving the way for this new type of organisations and allowing nonprofits to corporate entities under the right circumstances to align with the Philanthropic Enterprise Act. We keep the Food Company and foundation quite separate, with two distinct boards of independent directors. Because the governance is reversed, the food Company's board reports to the foundation's board. We have a common brand, but the foundation's dollars can't be used to market the products. And the food Company can't tell us what organizations or causes to give to. And unlike a number of private foundations, we don't have an endowment. Why? First, because Paul said let's give it all away. He didn't say let's hoard it first so we can exist in perpetuity and then just say giving away the 5% minimum required by law. Overall, I love being endowment free because our donors are the millions of consumers who buy Newman's Own products. And we give away all that we can every year. Because children who face adversity in the US cannot wait. Fourth and final ingredient. Forget the competition. They are playing by the rules that got us to where we are today. You have to Trust that being 100% for purpose is the way to win over customers, employees, and realize your mission. Yes, you can't give company stock options, but you can provide your employees with good salaries, great benefits and a real sense of purpose. And that's what 95% of college graduates are looking for in a job. You might not have the dollars for big splashy ads and you can't slash your prices so low and lose money to meet your competition if they're willing to do that to gain market share. But 66% of customers and especially 91% of millennials say they would switch to a new product from a purpose driven company. Most importantly, remember the end game. Success is about being all in for impact and showing everyone there's a different way to do business and capitalism. Imagine what we could do if 10% of US companies joined our acts or 10% of global companies. The last thing I'll say is this. Paul used to tell the kids with cancer he met at the summer camps he founded to go raise a little hell. And perhaps a little hell raising is exactly what we need to fix this absurd world where some people can afford $26 for cauliflower and just a mile away others have to send their kids to school hungry. I invite you all to joining me in raising a little hell. Go create, convert and work with 100% for purpose organizations. The world cannot wait. We can and must build organizations and systems differently and in doing so, we can use capitalism's mighty power in service of justice. Thank you.
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Podcast Summary: "Can Salad Dressing Transform Capitalism?" | Alex Amouyel
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In the January 23, 2025 episode of TED Talks Daily, Alex Amouyel, President and CEO of the Newman's Own Foundation, delivers a compelling presentation titled "Can Salad Dressing Transform Capitalism?" At this TED Conference Global (TEDCG) event, Amouyel explores how purpose-driven business models can redefine capitalism by prioritizing social impact over mere profit.
Amouyel begins by critiquing the prevalent trend of "greenwashing" in corporate philanthropy. He shares an anecdote about a restaurant in Miami's Wynwood district, where a $26 cauliflower dish promised to donate 1% of proceeds to environmental nonprofits. Amouyel highlights the futility of such gestures, pointing out that “1% of $26 is 26 cents,” which is insufficient to make a meaningful impact on climate change (02:10).
He argues that superficial charitable contributions can obscure genuine efforts, making it difficult for consumers to distinguish between companies that are genuinely committed to social causes and those that are merely leveraging philanthropy for marketing purposes.
Amouyel introduces Newman's Own as a pioneering example of a "100% for purpose" company. Founded by actor Paul Newman in 1982, Newman's Own donates 100% of its profits and royalties to the Newman's Own Foundation, a mission-driven organization aimed at nourishing and transforming the lives of children facing adversity.
When Amouyel shares his role, Madison H. interjects skeptically at 04:01:
Alex Amouyel: "Really?"
Madison H.: "You should put that on the label."
Amouyel acknowledges the skepticism but emphasizes that, unlike other companies, Newman's Own has sustained this model for over four decades, demonstrating its viability and impact.
Amouyel outlines four essential ingredients for establishing a successful 100% for purpose business:
A robust and steady profit is fundamental. Amouyel asserts that while immediate profitability isn't the goal, a sustainable business model with positive cash flow is crucial to support philanthropic endeavors. This ensures that the company can continuously give back without financial strain.
Aligning funding sources with the organization's mission is vital. Amouyel cites Yvon Chouinard of Patagonia, who declared the Earth as the company's sole shareholder to maintain mission alignment. He also mentions Humanitx, an event ticketing company from Australia, which has given away nearly $7 million in grant funding without external venture capital (07:45).
In traditional models, for-profit companies hold control, often prioritizing shareholder value. Amouyel reveals that at Newman's Own, "the food Company's board reports to the foundation's board" (09:30). This inversion ensures that philanthropic goals supersede profit-driven decisions. Additionally, Newman's Own operates without an endowment, committing all annual profits to their foundation.
Instead of competing on conventional business metrics like pricing and advertising, 100% for purpose companies focus on customer loyalty and mission alignment. Amouyel notes that "66% of customers and especially 91% of millennials say they would switch to a new product from a purpose-driven company" (11:15). This shift prioritizes long-term impact and employee satisfaction over short-term gains.
Amouyel highlights several organizations embracing the 100% for purpose model:
These organizations blend profitability with social impact, demonstrating diverse applications of the model across different sectors and geographies.
Amouyel concludes by envisioning a transformed capitalist landscape where businesses prioritize justice and societal good. He urges listeners to "raise a little hell" by supporting and creating purpose-driven organizations. By adopting the 100% for purpose model, he believes capitalism can be harnessed as a powerful tool for social justice and environmental sustainability.
Notable Quotes:
Alex Amouyel (02:10): "When we put cauliflower on our pizza, it's 100%. We give away. Not 1%."
Madison H. (04:01): "You should put that on the label."
Alex Amouyel (11:15): "66% of customers and especially 91% of millennials say they would switch to a new product from a purpose-driven company."
Alex Amouyel's talk serves as a clarion call for redefining business success beyond profit margins. By embracing the 100% for purpose model, companies can align their operations with meaningful social missions, thereby transforming capitalism into a force for good. Amouyel's insights provide a roadmap for entrepreneurs and business leaders aspiring to make a tangible difference in the world.
This summary captures the essence of Alex Amouyel's TED Talk, highlighting the transformative potential of purpose-driven business models in reshaping modern capitalism.