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Episode: How to power the world 24/7 — without oil | Cindy Taff
Date: January 24, 2026
Speaker: Cindy Taff
Host (briefly mentioned): Elise Hu
Event: TED Countdown Summit, Nairobi, Kenya, 2025

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In this TED Talk, Cindy Taff, a former oil and gas executive turned geothermal energy entrepreneur, explores how we can achieve clean, continuous power for the world by tapping into geothermal energy beneath our feet. She explains how existing oil and gas drilling technology can be repurposed to unlock the vast stores of heat in deep, hot, dry rock—potentially replacing fossil fuels and transforming global energy systems.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Personal Journey and Motivation

• Cindy introduces herself as a Texan with a long career in oil and gas.
  • "So I went into oil and gas because energy is life and I wanted to be able to provide people with lights, air conditioning, heat, and of course, the ability to watch funny cat videos on their phone." (04:45)
• She describes her transition from oil & gas to geothermal, spurred by the renewable energy transition.
  • "It's this exciting evolution to clean, renewable energy that inspired me to leave Shell and start my own geothermal company with my partners." (05:40)

2. The Immense Potential of Geothermal Energy

• There is a vast reservoir of energy in the Earth’s crust.
  • "It actually holds 50,000 times more energy than all of the oil and gas reserves on the planet." (06:24)
• Geothermal energy is “always on,” unlike wind and solar, making it a reliable baseload resource.

3. Repurposing Oil & Gas Technology

• The oil & gas industry’s technological advances—horizontal drilling, fracking, high-precision targeting—are ideal for deep geothermal projects.
  • "Like, imagine hitting a target the size of a pizza at a depth of five miles under the ground...the technology is pretty amazing." (08:05)
• Instead of drilling for hydrocarbons, these methods are being adapted to drill for heat.

4. Limitations of Wind and Solar

• Wind and solar are intermittent. Geothermal can provide 24/7 power and serve as an energy storage medium to backstop renewables.
  • "Geothermal can do what wind and solar can’t, and that is provide power 24 hours a day, seven days a week, regardless of what the weather is." (09:06)

5. Next-Generation Geothermal: Going Deeper and Hotter

• Most current geothermal projects exploit “unicorn” geologies (e.g., Iceland’s geysers).
• The real opportunity is in deep, hot, dry rock everywhere—requiring new drilling frontiers.
  • "The real prize in geothermal is in rock that's deep hot. And so you're going to have to drill deeper. So we call this next generation geothermal, and that's where we're going." (10:18)

6. Fracking for Geothermal: Similarities and Safety

• Fracking is necessary to create pathways in hard, hot rock so water can carry heat to the surface.
  • "We are creating cracks in the rock or we're widening cracks that are already there ... with a liquid that is mainly water. We do add crushed rock called barite in the water to make it more dense." (11:14)
• Taff emphasizes that pressures are lower than in oil & gas to minimize the risk of earthquakes.
  • "We're pumping at lower pressures and lower rates ... and wanting to avoid naturally occurring faults; this allows us to make our risk of earthquakes low." (11:38)

7. Real-World Implementation

• Her company is already operating projects—such as a geothermal energy storage facility at a coal plant, helping phase out coal with round-the-clock clean energy.
  • "We're actually in the field drilling wells, building systems, and proving that geothermal technology can work in unassuming places like Texas. Who had ever heard of geothermal in Texas?" (10:54)
• They are also preparing to power a Meta data center with geothermal.
  • "Imagine again, Facebook, Instagram, WhatsApp, and of course, funny cat videos being powered by the earth's heat." (12:28)

8. Scale and Impact

• With industry-wide adoption, the oil & gas workforce and infrastructure could be repurposed for geothermal on a massive scale.
  • "Currently drilling 70,000 wells a year for oil and gas and instead have them drill for heat..." (12:43)
• Next-generation geothermal could provide up to 80% of the world’s electricity and over 100% of its heating needs by 2050.
  • "By 2050, we can deliver almost 80% of the electricity demand that the world needs and over 100% of the heat for all homes, all businesses on the planet. So energy solved, climate change solved, that better future that our kids deserve." (13:07)

9. Message of Hope and Call to Action

• Taff encourages optimism and action, emphasizing that energy is right beneath our feet, ready to be harnessed.
  • "The thing I want to leave you with is that energy is everywhere beneath our feet. We just need to tap into it. Thank you." (13:37)

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• "Do you hate me yet? Let’s hope not." — Cindy lightly addressing her oil & gas past as she begins her talk (04:26)
• "It actually holds 50,000 times more energy than all of the oil and gas reserves on the planet." (06:24)
• "Geothermal can do what wind and solar can’t, and that is provide power 24 hours a day, seven days a week, regardless of what the weather is." (09:06)
• "Who had ever heard of geothermal in Texas? It’s there." (10:54)
• "Imagine again, Facebook, Instagram, WhatsApp, and of course, funny cat videos being powered by the earth’s heat." (12:28)
• "By 2050, we can deliver almost 80% of the electricity demand that the world needs and over 100% of the heat for all homes, all businesses on the planet." (13:07)
• "I’m hoping this leaves you guys energized. There’s people like me that are already working toward this end... energy is everywhere beneath our feet. We just need to tap into it." (13:37)

Important Timestamps

• 04:19 — Cindy Taff begins her talk; introduces herself and motivation.
• 05:40 — Journey from oil & gas to the geothermal startup.
• 06:24 — Magnitude of geothermal energy resource.
• 08:05 — Oil & gas drilling technology precision and its new application.
• 09:06 — Geothermal’s unique value over wind/solar.
• 10:18 — Concept of next-generation geothermal (“deep hot rock”).
• 11:14 — Fracking’s role in geothermal (with safety notes).
• 12:28 — Powering Meta data centers with the earth’s heat.
• 13:07 — Scale of geothermal’s potential by 2050.
• 13:37 — Inspirational conclusion and call to action.

Episode Tone

Cindy Taff is engaging, humorous, and optimistic—openly acknowledging the complexity and history of the oil & gas industry while candidly pointing to a visionary, practical path forward. Her Texas-narrator wit comes through, making the prospect of a geothermal-powered future both tangible and exciting.

Summary Takeaway

Cindy Taff’s talk demonstrates that by fusing oil & gas expertise and technologies with the renewable energy mission, next-generation geothermal power can deliver clean, reliable electricity and heat—potentially solving much of the world’s climate and energy needs by 2050. The energy is already present under our feet; all we have to do is tap into it.