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Podcast Host (0:02)
Tetragrammaton.
Mike White (0:24)
I did have like my past lives. This whole past life thing where they. You do your past life. It's. Shirley McLean was a friend of mine. She was like. She made me go to New Mexico and I did this for like five days. And like the past lives are all about like so much of it is about how you died. Like how each. At least this is what this one thing was like and how much how you end it has to do with what you're still dealing with. And that like it, like the end is important and like. And in fact, like in this, this. I mean, I'm. I'm not co Signing on this, but this was just. The philosophy was that like, you know, they used light, some kind of like color therapy or whatever so that like you remember the death and then like you think of a color and then the color somehow heals or like somehow provides some kind of catharsis so that then that death is sort of lifted off of you. So you're not like still dealing with the fallout from the death or whatever. So it's just. Yeah. I mean, whether you believe that or not, it's just like as a storyteller, it makes sense that like, you know, you're always trying to figure out what is the satisfying ending for your story, like, what is the conclusion. And you think about life as this journey to death. I want for my friends and I want for my family and I want for myself a. A cushy, like a, you know, like a soft landing. I don't want to. You know, it's like you. It's like as you get older and you experience more people dying, there's very few deaths that aren't kind of grim or you go through the process of dying is also. It's about loss. You lose things along the way. I mean, especially when you're young and healthy, you look at that and be like, oh my God, this is like so depressing. Do you mean because you see people lose their hearing, their ability to control their bowels of all these things that are some sort of humiliation. But I guess. But maybe as you actually experience those things, maybe that's a part of letting go of this, you know, like, it's like getting used to the idea of losing someone. You slowly lose them. You know, you can run from those bad feelings, but they'll find you.
Interviewer (2:38)
Have you had any people close to you pass?
Mike White (2:41)
I mean, yeah, I've had a pretty good run as far as in general. Not had like major tragedies. My parents are still alive. I've had friends that have in the last couple years, but I haven't been knocked on my knees over something.
Interviewer (3:00)
Like, how did you meet Shirley MacLaine?
Mike White (3:03)
Shirley MacLaine I met at a party. And, like, I was just, you know, like, I was a fan, so I started talking to her, and then, like, she was always, like, trying to get me to do. I was always interested because I knew she. You know, I knew she was into metaphysical stuff, so I was always, like, trying to pick her brain books. Yeah, she was like, you know, know out on a limb. And I mean, she is like, next level as far as just like, somebody who's known, you know, beyond just like, as a movie star, like, you know, known all these big characters over all these decades. But, like, she also knew, like, spiritual leaders and political leaders. I mean, she was very, like. She had, like, tentacles into all of these different worlds and was like, you know, she's a primary source, so she's a trip. So. But anyway, like, I would always bug her about it. She'd be like, I'm not talking about this anymore. You're going to have to get your past lives done. And so, like, she set it all up. But.