SEC Coaches Unfiltered Comments on League's QBs & Fall Camp Updates

Summary

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That SEC Football Podcast

Episode: SEC Coaches Unfiltered Comments on League's QBs & Fall Camp Updates

Date: August 12, 2026
Hosts: Michael Bratton (SEC Mike) & Cousin Shane
Social: @MichaelWBratton @BigOrangeVolz

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Episode Overview

This episode dives deep into fall camp updates across the SEC, but the main event is a breakdown of anonymous, unfiltered SEC coaches’ comments on the league’s quarterbacks, as compiled by ESPN. Mike and Shane analyze the fairness, accuracy, and implications of these coach takes, while also bringing in the latest news on eligibility drama, key injuries, fall camp competitions, and trending storylines from across the conference.

The banter is classic: light-hearted, Southern football authentic, peppered with jokes, fan shout-outs, and a touch of grill talk (this ain’t the tofu Big Ten podcast). If you want to go behind the curtain on what coaches really think about SEC QBs in 2026—this is your episode.

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Key Discussion Topics & Insights

Eligibility & “Fifth Year” Drama

[06:20 - 11:00]

• SEC Commissioner Greg Sankey issued a statement on players with “bonus” eligibility who’ve already left for the NFL but are petitioning to return to college.
  • Examples: Texas OL Cole Hudson, Missouri’s Sterling Webb.
  • Major uncertainty over league policy—even if NCAA allows, SEC may not.
  • "If Greg Sankey wants to shut this down, he can shut it down." — Mike (09:56)
• Lane Kiffin notes it’s unfair coaches face returning players from past regimes; transfer rules must be clearer.
• Unlikely any of these returners play meaningful SEC snaps, with programs wary of both distraction and opening litigation “can of worms”.

Anonymous SEC Coach Comments on QBs

[12:00 - 35:00 | Multiple Timestamps; See Each QB Below] Mike and Shane read, analyze, and react to ESPN’s compilation of anonymous, no-holds-barred coach assessments of established SEC starting quarterbacks.

Arch Manning (Texas)

• “He’s handled the situation better than anybody could possibly do. The expectations aren't fair. He could absolutely rip it — velocity, accuracy.” — SEC Defensive Coordinator (12:10)
• Coaches see growth: first-half struggles, second-half improvement, and big-play potential with new weapons (Cam Coleman, Ryan Wingo).
• “I feel like there’s less pressure on him this season than last year.”—Shane (13:22)
• Texas widely viewed as the national title favorite.

Trinidad Chambl (Ole Miss)

• “He makes fast decisions... can obviously hurt you with his legs, he can hurt you with his arm. He's just a playmaker.” — SEC Defensive Coordinator (14:34)
• Lane Kiffin’s impact vs. Chambl’s inherent skills debated.
• Widely agreed he’s the SEC Heisman candidate.
• Shane: “He’s my number one quarterback in the QB room.” (15:38)

Gunner Stockton (Georgia)

• “He’s a better runner than you think. Really smart, pretty accurate… tough.” — SEC Defensive Coordinator (16:31)
• Not a projected NFL star, but praised as a “great college quarterback."
• Mike: “The only thing that is kind of funny is like, I don't understand why we bring up the NFL for these guys... He was awesome, you know?” (17:58)

Sam Leavitt (LSU)

• “Sneaky athletic, more elusive than you’d think… Not the talent level that normal LSU quarterbacks would be, but dangerous at times.”—SEC DC (19:39)
• Coaches say he can miss high-leverage throws but extends plays; not expected to dominate but could “get it going.”
• “He's no [Diego] Pavia,” but high upside in Lane Kiffin’s system. (19:39)
• Brian Kelly predicts 8-4 or 10-2 for LSU this year (20:25).

Marcel Reed (Texas A&M)

• “He still thinks he's a true quarterback… He doesn't really want to run, but when he does, it's the scariest part.” — SEC DC (21:17)
• Seen as inconsistent—awful halves followed by heroic second acts (South Carolina, Notre Dame).
• Shane: “Texas A&M is going to need him regardless — there’s gonna be some damn dog fights.” (22:23)

Lenorris Sellers (South Carolina)

• “He really struggles to process in the middle of a game… move him around, move coverages, he struggles. But he's so hard to bring down.” — SEC Defensive Coordinator (23:24)
• Offensive fit in Kendall Briles’ system could be key; not a pocket passer, but electric as a runner.
• Shane expects multiple 100+ yard rushing games (24:48), and for Carolina to “hit the ground running—literally.”

John Mateer (Oklahoma)

• “Washington State tape was way better than how he played last year… He's athletic. Some balls he throws very well, others he's just okay at. But the offense is suited well for him.” — SEC DC (26:47)
• Similar to Jalen Hurts: “maybe not always the prettiest, maybe not the most efficient at times, but you need a game-winning drive—he'll get it done.”—Mike (28:42)

Byrum Brown (Auburn)

• “I’m not enamored with this guy… He’s alright. Not saying he can’t be good, but not an NFL talent.” — Coach who faced Brown at South Florida (28:56)
• Skepticism about Brown’s upside, but system at Auburn could matter.

Austin Simmons (Missouri)

• “He's got physical talent, but he's a processor and he's a little robotic to me. I just don't feel like he likes to be hit.”—SEC DC (30:12)
• Concerns about durability; Simmons skipped two years of high school, hasn’t played a full season in a long time (32:04).
• “We have to see it, right?” — Shane (31:06)

Kamari O. Taylor (Mississippi State)

• “I don’t know if he’s panned out or not yet as a true quarterback, but athletically I think he’s special… he flashed.” — SEC DC (33:00)
• Excitement for potential, but too little data; could blossom into a top-five SEC QB by season’s end (33:44).

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Coaches, QB Development & Fall Camp Vibes

Offensive Systems Tailored to Talent

• Shane: “Browse… he makes it easy for Lenorris. He takes some of those options out… that’s why South Carolina won’t sputter out of the gates.” (24:48)
• New OC at A&M (Holloman Wiggins) says: “We’re putting more on [Marcel Reed]. We’re going to go as he goes.” (52:05)

Deeper Roster Nuggets & Fall Camp News

[43:15 - 49:24]

• Oklahoma adds Arkansas transfer DT Danny Sila (eligibility pending); also Colorado State RB Lloyd Avant could be a fall-camp breakout.
• Texas focusing on physicality: “Today we ran 16 straight runs. There’s no passes. We want to be a team that can run the football when you know we’re going to run it.” — Steve Sarkisian (47:21)
• “This is what can make Texas dangerous, brother.”—Shane (48:48)
• Sark on Arch Manning: “Arch probably talks a little more shit than people give him credit for... Now Arch has more confidence.” (49:33-50:33)

Camp Injury/Health Updates & Progress

• LSU: Sam Leavitt fully participating, impressing coaches (62:21)
• South Carolina: Beamer non-committal on DL Dylan Stewart & Jacarius Peak. “I don’t feel like South Carolina needs to rush any of them.” — Shane (71:11)
• Bama: Offensive staff mum on QB separation ("No separation, even battle", 66:18); young RBs showing out led by A.K. Deer and E.J. Crowell. “Two-headed monster”—Mike (68:14)
• Tennessee: Early buzz that George McIntyre may be pulling ahead in the QB competition (76:46). Downfield accuracy in the Heupel system discussed (78:39).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “This ain’t no tofu Big Ten podcast… Down the South, we grill.” — Shane (05:20)
• “He [Arch Manning] loves football. He loves to practice, he loves to work... Arch probably talks a little more shit than people give him credit for.” — Steve Sarkisian on Arch Manning (49:33)
• “You know who’s got all the accuracy in the world? Liquid.” — Mike, during membership shoutouts (79:38)
• On Marcel Reed: “You tweet Marcel Reed’s a bad quarterback and watch the bookmarks—then Aggies gonna let you know if he has a good season.” — Shane (53:45)
• Coach John Sumrall on building toughness, not breaking down players: “I want to always build them up... Sometimes it’s gotta be really, really freaking hard to build them up. But I don’t want to ever break them down—if they’re broke down, they’re not any good.” (57:18-58:43)
• “We’re going to convince you that a 9-3 SEC team belongs in the College Football Playoff.” — Shane (45:17)
• Sam Leavitt: “[Louisiana] kind of felt almost fake to me… I didn’t think it was a real place.” (64:08)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Eligibility drama/SEC ruling: 06:20 – 11:00
• Anonymous coach QB comments (per QB): 12:00 – 35:00
  • Arch Manning: 12:10 – 14:15
  • Trinidad Chambl: 14:48 – 15:38
  • Gunner Stockton: 16:24 – 18:11
  • Sam Leavitt: 18:39 – 20:54
  • Marcel Reed: 21:16 – 23:15
  • Lenorris Sellers: 23:24 – 25:38
  • John Mateer: 26:47 – 28:42
  • Byrum Brown: 28:56 – 30:12
  • Austin Simmons: 30:12 – 32:28
  • Kamari O. Taylor: 33:00 – 35:11
• Fall camp news/camp standouts: 43:15 – 49:24
• Sarkisian on Arch Manning & team dynamics: 49:33 – 50:33
• New QB coaches & offensive changes (Texas A&M, A&M OC Wiggins): 52:05 – 53:45
• Bama camp (QB/running backs): 66:18 – 68:14
• South Carolina injuries/incoming OL Darius Gray: 73:03 – 75:10
• Tennessee QB battle (George McIntyre/Faizal Brandon): 76:33 – end

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Final Thoughts & Vibe

• Wide-open, competitive SEC quarterback race in 2026; lots of “prove it” situations.
• Many QBs praised for grit, athleticism, but question marks remain about NFL upside and playmaking under pressure.
• Under-the-radar fall camp standouts and transfers could swing team fortunes.
• Coaches and analysts agree: SEC will again be a “meat grinder”—physical, deep, and with few obvious weaknesses at the top.

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For Full Unfiltered QB Comments & Further Banter:
Listen starting at [12:00] for the coach-by-coach reactions.

For Fall Camp and Team Updates:
Jump to [43:15] and beyond for breakdowns on camp standouts, injury watch, and roster moves.

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Transcript

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[Mike]

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[Shane]

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[Mike]

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[Shane]

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[Mike]

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[Mike]

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[Shane]

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[Mike]

All right, Chase. So hey, we got all kinds of news and notes across the sec.

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Mike]

But I thought this would be kind of interesting too. I want to shout out espn. They did. They're still doing some work. Oh, wait. Oh, one other thing real quick before we get to that.

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Mike]

Greg Sankey. So he's issued this big lengthy list. I'm not going to read the whole damn thing here. But basically what it says here, Shane, you know, these. All these guys that I got an extra fifth year to play and the guys that. So moving forward, this is not an issue. Where this is potentially an issue is a guy like, you know, Cole Hudson, I believe is his name. Texas offensive lineman who.

[Shane]

Yeah, who was.

[Mike]

He's out of eligibility. He's been in the NFL. Now he's back on Texas roster or Sterling Webb at Missouri. There's so many of these guys. So Greg Sankey has put this out and says, hey, hey, people. Eligibility rules, including those related to. To courts that, you know, we are still working through this. So I don't. Just based on this, which again, this is a letter from Greg Sankey that he sent to every SEC institution today. I don't know that these guys that. That are Coming back from the NFL, I don't know that they're going to be eligible. I really don't.

[Shane]

I don't think so, Mike. You know, I. I really don't.

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[Shane]

I think mainly because it opens up a bigger can of worms. You know, I. I think you would just think of it from Sanki's point of view, Right? Yeah. We let one or two come in, and then that just opens up more lawsuits, Mike. You know what I'm saying? It just opens up more opportunity. And I feel like you've had your opportunity, and it's time to. I mean, it's time to grow up. Right? Get a big boy job, so.

[Mike]

And Lane Kifford made a really good point. It's the first time I believe something he said. But in his most recent LSU press conference.

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Mike]

So they asked him, you know, like, how are there guys on last year's team that. That you're going to welcome back? And he's. He's like, hey, buddy, I. I've been here for six, seven months. These guys didn't even play for me.

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Mike]

So how do I, you know, do they want to play for me? Do I want them on the. On the roster? And this is the only option we're giving guys is you could go back to the school you were at. What about when there was a coaching change, like at lsu? He says, if you're going to do this, you got to open it up to everybody. Which. Yeah. Which they're not doing. Like, you have to. You have to essentially go to the team you were already at.

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Mike]

Unless. Shout out Boomer sooner. Shane, we'll get to them in a minute. But one of the. They just picked up a guy.

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Mike]

Like, for whatever reason was out of eligibility. He said, hell, I'll just throw my name in the portal. So he's in the portal. So they. They got him. But again, will he be eligible based on this statement that Sankey put out? Maybe not.

[Shane]

And we're. I mean, dude, we're getting there. We're a few weeks away from playing football. So I. I mean, even now, if you get them on the roster, it's like you're limited on what, you know, what you can do with them. You're not going to mess up your rotation. I mean, it's like a practice squad member at this point. Right. And if they want to come down there and practice, be around the team, that's great. But I don't know, man. It just doesn't feel like any of these boys are going to hit the

[Mike]

football field and similar again, it's not exactly apples to apples, but remember, Alabama had that guy, I believe his name was Charles Bettyco, basketball player who was like, in the NBA, came back and played for Alabama. It was the SEC that was like, no, no, no, no, we're not doing this shit. Yeah, it was not, you know, so SEC can block all this. I saw someone in the comps, they're like, ncaa has already cleared us. Well, the SEC has got more say over the SEC than the. The NCAA has over the sec. I know that's confusing, but if Greg Sankey wants to shut this down, he. He can shut it down.

[Shane]

And I. I feel like you have to, right, because this kind of all got thrown together at the last second anyway. We're not just going to open up the door and say, you know what? You know, let's. Let's figure it out. Let's let them play for that. It's just. I feel like it's more distraction from the actual. I mean, we're not talking, you know, Trinidad or. We're not talking about Diego Pavia coming back and playing for Vanderbilt, you know what I'm saying? We're talking about a couple of guys that. That could help with some depth. And you'd love to have them play. I would imagine your team would love to have them. But it's. It's when you do that, then all of a sudden you're creating just more. More possibilities for just drama, if you will.

[Mike]

Right. And, you know, we see all these court cases. What you're not going to see, Shane, I guarantee it. You're not going to see any one of these, whether it's Texas, Georgia, lsu, whatever. Yeah, they ain't going to sue the sec. They won't do it. So, again, I. I think it's. It'll ultimately come down to the sec. I really do.

[Shane]

Well, let me ask you this. Are you hearing anything from the other conferences? Big Ten aces.

[Mike]

Pay attention to those.

[Shane]

Well, I'm just saying, I. I totally agree, but if you're meeting one of these teams at the playoff, or if one's coming, I don't know, to Austin, Texas, is this something that's going to pop up where. Okay, yes, we won't do it, but another conference will allow it.

[Mike]

Don't know, don't care. Okay.

[Shane]

All right. Just saying, that's how fresh this is. We don't even know yet. We will find out for you.

[Mike]

Well, we'll. Let me call Josh Bates, see what he's got. Apparently, he's Big Ted Fate down?

[Shane]

Yeah, he's getting, he's getting all kind of whispers up there too. Eddie, I just heard a rumor like your dms are not like mine.

[Mike]

All right, so what I was trying to lead with there, Shane, we've got some really good work here from espn. They have got some unfiltered anonymous coach comments on the SEC quarterbacks.

[Shane]

Ooh.

[Mike]

So this is a little bit different than anything that I've seen before. And they've only done the established starters. So otherwise, you know, Tennessee, we, we would talk about them. We don't know who the starter is. Vanderbilt, Florida, on and on. So I don't have comments for, for those guys. I, I got all the SEC ones that they had available. So here's the ones for Arch Banning. And honestly, Shane, I thought all of these were very, very fair, which is also why I wanted to showcase him. Here's what they said about Arch Banning. He's handled the situation better than anybody could possibly do. The expectations aren't fair. So personally, I hope he's got. He has a great year. Hopefully. I hope he has an off game against us. He could absolutely rip it like velocity, accuracy. Said an SEC defensive coordinator. He got a little out of whack and made some mistakes, but then people were really defending him. It's going to be really easy this year because people are going to have to double Cam Coleman. He's a real one and so is Ryan Wingo. So it's like you can't double both of them. So again, I, I feel like these are largely fair comments here with the Arch Manning hype and, and he failed to live up to it, but played a lot better in the second half and, and now he's got some better weapons to work with.

[Shane]

Yeah, and it, and it's funny because Arch was really asked to do probably more than most quarterbacks ever get asked, you know, and you. In just our lifetime, it, it almost feels like these quarterbacks are being pressured younger and younger, and there's no way you were going to keep Arch Manning on the, on the sideline. So he got thrown out in it. And I wouldn't say he sunk, but, you know, he didn't tread water there for a second and he was, you know, got a little bigger than, than he was expecting, but it was the progression on the back half of the season. Right. It's the additions that they mentioned in the comments that you've put around him to make his life a little bit easier. So I'm expecting more out of Arch Even though it's funny, I feel like there's less pressure on him this season than last year.

[Mike]

Oh, interesting. Apparently they, they called Mr. Heisman down there.

[Shane]

I just. Last year, I mean, we already crowned him, right. Everybody could not wait to see a Manning back in the sec and I, I just felt like that hype was. And for a younger man now, he's a little more, you know, calloused coming into this season. He's, he's not a vet, but might as well be. And I, I feel like, yeah, the expectations are down a little bit on him personally. Now the team isn't at an all time high because this is, you know, people are dubbed this year's national champs.

[Mike]

Yeah, well, if there is a Heisman leader in the sec, Shane, my money's on this man. Old Trinidad Chambl. He's a dude. An SEC coach said Lane probably gets too much credit for Trinidad. I love that comment. Trinidad is not underrated now. He's a quick decision maker. An SEC defensive coordinator said he makes fast decisions. He can obviously hurt you with his legs, he can hurt you with his arm. He's just a playmaker. He makes guys around him better. Ooh. So again, I, I think these are all fair.

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[Mike]

And it was interesting because Kiffin was kind of taking credit for Trinidad, his most recent press conference. So I love, I love the fact that, you know, again, I, I don't think there's anything inaccurate here at all.

[Shane]

It's Georgia, wasn't it? I'm trying, I try to figure out what coach said this, but you. Yeah, that's, that's the cool thing about Trinidad, you know, is, is he is a, I mean, he's just a gamer and doesn't matter what the situation is. You may think you got him boxed up, then all of a sudden he springs loose for 15 yards down the sideline. So he makes the team around him better too. You know, there you. We always talk about some of these quarterbacks, like, well, how's the offensive line? How's the wide receiver? How's the running game? You know, but sometimes a quarterback is what elevates those players around him. So, yeah, he's, I would say, by far because I do think this is a loaded SEC room. But right now he's, he's my number one quarterback in the, in the QB room.

[Mike]

It's hard to doubt him, isn't it?

[Shane]

Yeah, it really is. Even got the baby blue on today for him.

[Mike]

Well, I think the most disrespected quarterback, Shane, in the S.E.C. our man Gunner. Come on, Gunner. He's a big time winner. Here's what they said about him. He's a better, he runs it better than you think. Really smart, pretty accurate. And SEC defensive coordinator said, I don't think he's got an unbelievable arm talent, but he's pretty good. He's a great college quarterback in SEC defensive coordinator said, he's tough, so he can get some BO yards and take some big hits and all that stuff. I really like him. He's a really good player. I don't know if he's an NFL specimen, but he's a, he's a great college player. I love it. I, Again, I see. I think all these are very, very fair up to this point.

[Shane]

I, I mean, it's, it's been the knock so far, right? You look at all these QB ranks and you know who's, who's potential Heisman candidates. Gunner is a name that feels like he's always on the fringe of those conversations, but who cares, right? The ultimate goal is to win a national title. And I feel like when you do that or when you're put in one of these situations, you kind of like to have Gunner back there with the football because he's going to find a way to make it work and that's exactly what he does. I don't think they're going to be putting any statues out front in Athens down there, but I do think that they have an opportunity to win a national title because of him.

[Mike]

I. The only thing that is kind of funny is like, I don't, I don't understand why we bring up the NFL for these guys, you know, like, what does that got to do with anything? Diego didn't, did he? I don't even think he got drafted.

[Shane]

Right.

[Mike]

But I mean, he was awesome, you know? Yeah, that's got nothing to do with his legacy.

[Shane]

It's funny, while you're talking about it, I was like, dude, he'd be a hell of an H back in the NFL. You know, that's when you're talking. He reminds me of that Saints guy a few years back. I can't remember. He played quarterback and tied in and running back. He just had a little bit of everything.

[Mike]

I think was, yeah, yeah.

[Shane]

So he kind of reminds me of that. Just, he'll, he'll find a way to get in the end zone somehow,

[Mike]

as perhaps will Sam Levit. Shane, the new LSU quarterback, he played better the year before than he did last year. A defensive coordinator set to face LSU said he was really Impressive. During Arizona State's playoff run the year before. Just so sneaky, athletic, really. Way more elusive than you would think. One of those make something out of nothing kind of guys. He's good, solid passer. He'll miss on some throws that you expect him to make, to be that high level guy. But when he, but where he gets you is where he, when he extends plays. He's not the talent level that normal. LSU quarterbacks would be. An SEC defensive coordinator said if they have success, it's going to be because they got him, got him going in the system. He doesn't freak you out when you watch him, but he's dangerous at times. I would rather play him than Diego Pavia. How about that? He's no Pavia.

[Shane]

No, he's no Pavia. But you know, I, I, I feel like outside of LSU and maybe Mississippi State, I mean, not, it's, it's kind of funny how under the radar Sam Levitt is, right? With all these other quarterbacks we, we talk about, he's one that you just naturally think will be good because it's in Lane Kiffin system. Right? But this is a guy that I feel like has maybe a higher ceiling than, than we think and mainly because of the system. But if he can extend plays like you said, he's no Diego Pavia, but he doesn't have to be because he's not in Vanderbilt, you know.

[Mike]

Hey, did you see Coach Kelly? He gave a record prediction for lsu.

[Shane]

No, What'd he say?

[Mike]

You want to take a wild guess here? I'll, I'll, I'll throw the schedule up here. Overrunner's eight and a half. What do you think? Coach Kelly said LSU under Lane Kiff, they'll finish this year 8 and 4, 10 and 2.

[Shane]

Damn. He's trying to get back, huh?

[Mike]

That's him putting pressure on him, you know what?

[Shane]

Yeah. Oh, that's smart.

[Mike]

Yeah, he's always, he said the defense will be nasty. Offense always going to be good under Coach Kiffin is what he said.

[Shane]

So that's what he said. We were, we were one year away. And so Lane's got that team

[Coach Sarkisian]

shout out.

[Mike]

Brandon Rodart.

[Shane]

Hey, thank you, cuz.

[Mike]

Thank you so much for the donation. We're going to talk Texas here in a minute for old Brandon, but how about the. Ooh, now this one was, I think Shane might have wrote this one. I'm not sure.

[Shane]

A lot of big words.

[Mike]

Marcel here, Marcel Reed. The people that have been able to stop the run and play zone defense. He's Had a hard time against an SEC defensive coordinator said. Another one added, he still thinks he's a true quarterback, and we want him to keep thinking that way. He doesn't really want to run, but when he does, it's the scariest part. So. Oh, buddy. I mean, these are some harsh words. Basically saying, you know, maybe he's not a true quarterback. He's a better runner than he is a passer. Yeah, I don't, I mean, I, I, he's just such a hard one shank. Because sometimes half, half, you know, South Carolina's perfect example.

[Shane]

Yes.

[Mike]

Awful first half. You're like, we go benches this sorry guy. We can't never win anything with him. Then he comes out in the second half, he's unstoppable. The inconsistency. I see why people will throw some shade at him, but to say he's not a quarterback, that's, that's fighting words down in College Station. Shane.

[Shane]

But I, I don't know, man. I did my top three quarterbacks by the end of the season, total yards and a lot of that. I, I mean, I looked at rushing, and I feel like Marcel Reed has to go right there has to be maybe not my first. You know, got to have some progression. We got to be a quarterback first. I disagree with some of those comments, but, but, you know, don't forget, you are one of the fastest players on this football field, and you can make things happen with your legs. And so I hope they put him in the right spot, but I just think that Texas A and M is going to need him regardless, because there's going to be some damn dog fights, you know what I'm saying? And because of that, this is when Marcel Reed shined, when they were backs against the wall. You think the South Carolina game, you think the Notre Dame game, that's what we want to see is a little bit of that in his game this season.

[Mike]

Oh, Rex says Billy Lucci on line one. That's good. That's a good one.

[Shane]

All right.

[Mike]

And then we also got comments on. Ooh, Lenora Sellers. Shane Lenora Sellers. Oh, yeah, here we go. He really struggles to process in the middle of a game. SEC defensive coordinator said, when you move them around or you move things around on him, he really struggles. But I think in Kendall Brow system, if Kendall can be like, hey, you do this or you do this and take off running, he, if he can get him to that, I think the kid could be scary. He's so hard to bring down. Kendall will make him a little Bit more friendly. A different SEC coordinator said he's not going to force him to be something he's not, which I felt like he was at times. He was last year. They've got to try to win games. You're not a pocket passer. The best thing you do is take off and run because no one can tackle you. And Buddy, we've seen that at times too. I mean, this guy's a freaking tank.

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Mike]

At times. They didn't utilize him that way, particularly in the red zone last year for some damn reason. But. Interesting. Some, some harsh comments, but I think it's fair given the, the lack of production.

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Mike]

Last year. And I also think it's fair to say, man, this guy could be scary good with in this offense.

[Shane]

Well, this is the one I'm expecting to hit the ground running. Literally. And, and I like how they say browse. It's not that he has an easy offense. He makes it easy for Lenores. The he, he takes some of those options out. And not saying that he can't handle a pro style offense, but I, I do think simp this for this football team in particular especially, I mean after all the coordinators he's been through. That's why you're going to see maybe South Carolina not sputter out of the gates like they've done before in the past. So no, I'm expecting a massive season from Lenora Sellers and, and, and I hope, I hope. I mean he's sitting there. What else you got to lose? You're not coming back. You're not. You're going to the NFL regardless. At the end of this thing, I bet there's several times he's going to have over 100 yards rushing.

[Mike]

And to say that he's not a NFL passer or anything like. That's not Shane's words. That's. That's the anonymous coach comment. Right, Chad? I think, well, you'll probably say Peyton, but I think people, if they're being honest, Tom Brady's best quarterback of all time. Not even he's good when he doesn't get protection. Yeah, Lenore Sellers was the most pressured quarterback in power four the last two years. This is multiple years. So how the hell. I don't know how we can sit here and say he can't do this, he can't do that. Throw Tom Brady's ass back here in his prime, he couldn't have done shit with behind Carolina's offensive line. You know what?

[Shane]

That's right. I mean Hinden Hooker's the Only guy I've ever been able to say to do it. You know

[Mike]

he had a top 10 offensive table.

[Shane]

Yeah, he did. Absolutely. So, no, I, I did. If you're running for your life, that's exactly what you're going to get. That fight or flight. And I, I feel like they'll. But again, that was the system that he was in. This is a system that's going to put him in a better spot even if the offensive line isn't as good as maybe Chris Marler thinks. I listen.

[Mike]

All right, how about these guys on John B. Shane, his Washington State tape was way better than how he played last year. An SEC defensive coordinator said he's a really good quarterback. You've got to do a good job against him. Matier's a good player, he's athletic. Said a defensive coordinator who will face Oklahoma this year. There's some balls he throws very well and others that I think he's just okay at. I don't know if that. He's always, always reads it the best, but that offense is suited well for him and they get a lot out of them. They were some games. They were some games. He looked outstanding last year and others where he looked just okay.

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Mike]

Again, I mean, some harsh, some praise, but I think that's all fair.

[Shane]

Yeah, I, I honestly, I feel like John Mattier, second year in the SEC is going to, gonna, it's gonna be a little bit like a, a taller Diego Pavia. You know, I just, I feel like he's gonna be the one that we talk about the end of the year that just got the job done. Right. I don't, I don't think. Remember back in the day when they used to have those quarterback challenges, you know, they'd run around and throw stuff. I don't think John Mateer would win one of those. But in a pickup game and I gotta get 10 guys with me. I'd like to have John Matiere in that huddle because he's going to find a way to score a touchdown. So I, I think this is a big second year bump for him in the sec.

[Mike]

Yeah. And again, he's a very different player than this guy, but he just kind of made me think of. And I always forget he played at Oklahoma.

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Mike]

Because to me he played at Alabama forever. But Jalen hurts. Jalen hurts. Strikes me that way too. You know, maybe not always the prettiest, maybe not the most efficient at times, but you need a game winning drive or, or a conversion.

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Mike]

I don't think there's anybody I'd rather have than old Jalen hurts. He's. He's gonna get it done.

[Shane]

You know what 99 clutch. Is that a thing? I don't know.

[Mike]

Well, I'll tell you who might be clutch 99 Shane.

[Shane]

Who's that?

[Mike]

As Byron Brown from Auburn. I'm not one of these Byron Brown haters but I'm also not one of the guys who thinks he's a first round NFL pick either. Said a coach who will face Brown, a coach who faced Brown at South Florida. He's all right. I'm not enamored with this guy.

[Shane]

Oh damn.

[Mike]

Which Florida. Shane wrote this one?

[Shane]

Which Florida coach was this? You know,

[Mike]

probably Napier, right?

[Shane]

Yeah, yeah. Just one more jab on his way out to jmu. Godly. That's harsh. No, I mean, I mean this is one, this is one of the first ones that's a first year guy, you know what I'm saying? So yeah, I, I don't know. I mean the guys. I'm not going to sit here and tell you Brown's going to be the best quarterback but I'm not saying that he can't be right and goal is the system. I think anything's possible but you know, to sit here and say he's an NFL talent, I don't, I don't think that's the case either because he wouldn't have been in South Florida, you know, last year if that was but again, they grow up, they get better. He's in Auburn, he has an opportunity. Not an Auburn hater. I'm just saying I gotta see it from him before I could judge him

[Mike]

like these coaches shout out to cousin Danny every one that's playing Tennessee. He said Jim knows gonna eat him. He's fired up. How about Bazou fan chain? They're fired up for old Austin Simmons. O Anonymous com comments on Austin Simmons hey, he's got physical talent but he's a processor and he's a little robotic to me. An SEC coach said of Simmons he'll just do okay. Said a defensive coordinator set to face Simmons this year. There's definitely talent in his body. I just don't feel like he's likes to be hit. Obviously Eli Drinkowitz does a great job with those guys but there's some transition there with a new offensive coordinator, new quarterback, all that stuff so. Oh, I don't know if Missouri fans are going to like these comments Shane.

[Shane]

I mean aren't you a little worried? I mean we're just talking quarterback here and I'm not saying Austin Simmons is going to get hurt, but I mean, man, they've been pretty. I mean they've been getting screwed pretty much every year by quarterback, getting banged up or injured, you know what I'm saying? So now you got a guy that sat some of last year and I'm not saying he can't, but it's one of those, you gotta, we have to see it, right? We have to see. This is a guy I definitely don't want to see outside the tackle box, you know, and you don't need to with this running game. So I'm going to hold off judgment because I've only seen one good drive and it resulted in a touchdown against Georgia. So as far as I know, he's pretty good quarterback.

[Mike]

Well, and again, I don't know if this really matters or means anything, but I think it is noteworthy. Shane Austin Simmons also skipped two years of high of high school football.

[Shane]

Oh no, I didn't know that.

[Mike]

So he skipped two years to enroll early and then he's largely not played at Ole Miss. So I mean we're talking five years since this guy's played contact football full season. You know what I mean? Yeah, I mean, I mean that's, I again, does that really matter? I don't know, but that's, that's kind of interesting, don't you think?

[Shane]

I do. And I wonder if it helps or hurts, you know, because I've heard so fresh. I mean you hear stories, you hear guys that never picked up the football until they got into high school, you know, then you hear those ever since they were five years old, was playing football. So I just feel like everybody's body is going to react a little bit different as far as injuries concerned. And to sit here and say, you know, he's he more prone for injury. I don't know, man. We just had one that we saw and that may have been the last one that we do see.

[Mike]

Right. Well, the last comments we got here, Shane Shout out Cabario Taylor, Mississippi State's outstanding emerging quarterback. Here's what the anonymous comments are for Kamari Taylor, I don't know if he's panned out or not yet as a true quarterback, but athletically I think he's special. And SEC defensive coordinator said he had a really good year for a young guy. Another SEC coordinator said he only started two games, but he really flashed.

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Mike]

So again, not anything. Huge, huge revelations there, but noteworthy nonetheless that basically people saying I don't think he scratched the surface of what he's going to be.

[Shane]

That's exactly what this is, Mike. We don't, we don't, we don't know. And in fact I was saying the other day, I don't know where he ultimately finishes but dude, if he, if he's as good as those two game flashes that we did see, there may be a real conversation by the end of the season that he's a top five quarterback in the conference. So yeah, I feel like that's why Mississippi State fans are so excited and to be honest, why a lot of people play Mississippi State probably aren't happy to play them.

[Mike]

Right. And again, we anticipate with Zach Arnett the defense will be better. But I was still, I think realistically, Shane, if Mississippi State's going to beat some of these teams that they're not projected to beat. Yeah, they're probably going to have to outscore them. So they're, you know, you're again, you could say pressure, but I would just say unleashing Kamari O'Taylor, like go out there, if you throw a pick, we may, we weren't going to win either way. You know what I mean? But if, but if you're forcing the issue and you're making plays and the confidence grows, that's your avenue to Mississippi State having an exciting season, just having one of the best. If not, who knows, like a top three ish type quarterback by the end of the season, if you get him going, you start beating some people, that that's the path to success. I feel like just let them loose,

[Shane]

you know, I'm sure they'll try to be conservative with them at first, but there's gonna be some games they're gonna say, dude, we just need you. Just play, play some football. So those are gonna be the fun ones. There's. But I do feel like the highs and lows are gonna be very vast different, you know.

[Mike]

Right. And again, Jeff Leby, I don't know how much of a hot seat he's on, but I. You can't. At Mississippi State you can't win one SEC game in two years and not be facing some kind of pressure. So you gotta go out swinging.

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Mike]

You gotta be as creative as you've ever been. Let this quarterback do lay it all out on the line, each and every SEC game because if you don't, you're not going to be too good this year. And then there's probably going to be a new coach in there. You know what?

[Shane]

Yep. Absolutely, man. At least build some momentum, some excitement for the following season. You know, so they have some young talent that can emerge here. But, dude, you're. You hit the nail on the head. You got to win some damn SEC games, brother.

[Mike]

Hey, well, speaking of. Well, I don't know if you really want to go here or not, but we got a comment here from hookah member for 15 months, Shade. Is the Shade trade stopping in Texas? If so, I'll be there. Austin, October 17th. Come on, cuz, beers on me.

[Shane]

Yeah, absolutely. Texas is on the list. I know. Texas A and M is also on the list.

[Mike]

Seeing his 17th, he's saying Florida.

[Shane]

Well, I mean, that's. I gotta find the game, right? Ideally, I would like a. A late game. That's one thing, too. I'm kind of looking at. I don't want to do an early one. So if the Florida games at 11 Central, you know, I just feel like that takes away from the tailgate experience. And the whole point of this is for fanfare to find, you know, who's got the best damn tailgate in Austin. And I don't want to do it if it's wrapped up by 9am you know what I'm saying? So. Really depends on. On what time those games are. But, yeah, we got to go. So we're going to be going again. The first three have already been planned out. We're going to Gainesville. Week one, week two, we will be in Lexington. And then week three, Oxford, Mississippi.

[Mike]

You told me you didn't want to drive it to Nashville. Well, I. I don't think you know much about Austin. It's. Austin's a bigger city. It's. It's even.

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Mike]

And I don't know about their tailgate scene, to be honest, either.

[Shane]

Oh, really?

[Mike]

I. Yeah.

[Shane]

I mean, it's no tailgate scene. Damn.

[Mike]

I mean, it's a. It's a.

[Shane]

Like a.

[Mike]

It's a big city. You know what I mean? That one's taking a lot of grass out there that I. That I recall.

[Shane]

Hook them. Convince me. Send it to that SEC podcast gmail.com and let me know that we've got a place to put a Class C camper.

[Mike]

I mean, the campus is awesome. I'm sure it's great. It looked like it was fantastic for students here, but I don't know. How about Scott Fitz? I remember when they said Lagway was winning. The husband Simmons went from hero to zero because of two games behind an offensive line that struggled early. Yeah, lagway to a Heisman.

[Shane]

Some people had them. And, you know, I. I think P got exposed for his 25 QB rankings. And there was DJ sitting up top. I, I, Dude, I was convinced that DJ Lagway was, was going to be an elite quarterback and, you know, similar to Arch Manning kind of getting thrown into some of this.

[Mike]

But he's right. There's plenty of gr. I mean, that's, that's Austin.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Shane]

Camping World doesn't need to know that

[Mike]

they, they have more. All that, that, that's the kind of grass they have.

[Coach John Sumrall]

Yeah.

[Mike]

Go park at bad boy on 6th Street, Shane. Let me know how that works for you.

[Shane]

It sounds bad. I, I don't know. Does that sound bad? I don't know.

[Mike]

It's. Yeah, don't do that.

[Shane]

I'm losing tires.

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[Mike]

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[Shane]

What's that? Oh, your notes.

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[Mike]

Well, hey, so I tease this. Shane yeah, so Oklahoma, again, I have no idea if this guy's going to be eligible, but they're, you know, in the comments they're saying, oh yeah, we're good, we're good. Shane but they landed Arkansas defensive tackle Danny Sila, I think is how you say it. So he was a player there at the Razorbacks Last year. Yeah. This is the guy that ran out of eligibility, but it went in the portal anyway. I don't understand why, but maybe he's from the future Shane. Cause he found out this ruling hit and I can go anywhere I want. So Sooners pick him up. Another defensive tackle in the transfer portal that has got SEC experience. Now we know Oklahoma's pretty loaded on the defense.

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Mike]

So it's not like this guy's going to come in and we're going to be relying on him day one to be a starter or anything like that. But if he's eligible, which again we, we open with that Greg Sankey comment made me believe that he may not be, but if he is, Shane, you could just never have enough defensive lineman in this conference. So I love the pickup for the Sooners.

[Shane]

Yeah, I wouldn't think that would be the like you would think some of these other teams that are struggling with some defensive linemen through book his money. But I guess with the not knowing if he's going to get to play or not, you're you if you're a kid and you get to pick. I mean, hell, I'm going to go to Oklahoma because they're going to put me in the NFL at some point. So. Yeah, this is a big get. I mean you can't have enough big bodies running around.

[Mike]

Put that on a shirt, man. With this nine game sec, you're going to need them when you get to. I mean just look at the last five. Shane Carolina, who Marlowe's got me convinced they're 16. And oh, John's at Florida. Summerall's got me convinced they're going to the playoff. Ole Miss, I mean everybody we talked to at media days, about half of them said Ole Miss go with the Natty. Billy's got me convinced Elko's winning it all. And then Austin Simmons got me convinced. I mean you, you gotta have some depth here if you go compete this league. You know what?

[Shane]

Oh yeah, man. Geez Louise, it's gonna be such a fun year. I mean it is, it is. And I feel like we're gonna be a little hurt at the end because we've been beating up on each other all year long. But we're gonna convince you that a 9 and 3 sec team belongs in the, in the college football playoffs.

[Mike]

And then the only other nug here from old Norman. Shane.

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Mike]

Oh, I, you know, new name here. Not the, not the die hard Sooner fans. I'm sure they're well aware, but that they added a running Back this offseason. Colorado State transfer Lloyd Avant. Apparently, if they were playing the game today. Shane. Yeah. This may be our starting running back.

[Guest Commentator]

Ooh.

[Mike]

That's how well he's playing in camp here. So we still got Robinson, we still got some nice players there, but Avon apparently has. Has broken out. He had only 90 carries last year at Colorado State, but he had 417 yards. So nearly five yards per carry, five touchdowns, and he must be explosive. Shane. 24 catches, 260 yards. So over 10 yards per catch. Yeah, at Colorado State last year. So maybe a little bit deeper at running back than we anticipated in Norman.

[Shane]

Oh, man. What if they just turned back to old school Oklahoma? Just run in the damn football all the time. Four yards in a cloud of dust and then just lean on that defense. They, Hey, I, I feel like everybody wants to go to John Matier, you know, and Arbuckle and why this offense didn't go with at the end of the day, because it's. They didn't have balance, they didn't have a running game. So, yeah, I don't think you can have too many defensive linemans. You can't have too many running backs over there. You just need the right one on the football field. So it's time to get some bounce back in Norman.

[Mike]

Well, where they're also trying to run the ball. Shane, Run that ball down in Austin. I like these comments from old Sarkeesian. Let's kick it over to Sar.

[Coach Sarkisian]

Well, you see it in pass protection, you know, I mean, we got, we got plenty of blitzes, you know, and they got to step up and fit these guys up in pass pro. There's a, there's a, you know, you guys see the T shirts? No thud. No play. And so, you know, they've got to run with a real sense of physicality, especially in our team run periods. I mean, Today we ran 16 straight runs. There's no passes. And so, you know, we want to be able to be a team that can run the football when, you know we're going to run it and, and finding ways to run it. And that's running through down safeties who are unblocked doing those things. And so I'm seeing that from them, that they're having the ability to do that.

[Mike]

Oh, so again, I don't think he's calling out last year's team by any means. But yeah, you know, that was the thing, Shane, when we got into dog fights with Ohio State and Georgia and you know, Elite, even A and M, you know, they did have success against A and M and Oklahoma running the football. But that, I think those were the keys to those victories. Yeah, but you've been unable to do that against Georgia. You've been unable to do that against Ohio State. Again, New year new. So who, who the hell cares? But I think he, Sarkis recognizes that and says, hey, we're gonna run this, run the hell out of the boat. 16 runs in a row. Does he not know he's got Arch Manning and King Coleman out there? Like, you know, he's, he's not, they're not going to be soft. They can't. Because you just can't win at an elite level if you're, if you're not tough.

[Shane]

This is what can make Texas dangerous, brother. You know, everybody wants to talk about Arch Manning and Cam Coleman and, you know, Wingo and all these guys, but if they're getting all the attention, guess what? That leaves wide open the running game. And if you can't do that, then you're going to find yourself losing multiple SEC games, Mike. So I, I, I love this. Let's, let's get the ground game going. That's going to make Arch's life easier. And, and if Texas is ultimately going to make the run, pun intended. This is what they got to do is have that balance.

[Mike]

Well, speaking of Arch, he also had a, I thought, a funny comment on Arch and then he's asked about Cam Coleman's amazing catch. So here's back to back. Arch and Cam here.

[Coach Sarkisian]

I think the team responds really well to Arch. You know, I think Arch, Arch loves football. He loves to practice, he loves to work. And it's funny because Arch probably talks a little more shit than people give him credit for outside of our building. So in practice, there's a good amount of banter that goes on. And now Arch has more confidence. He's, he gives a little more of that banter. He gives a little more of that banter back. He and Colin were getting into it today about a screenplay, and it was

[Mike]

all out of fun.

[Coach Sarkisian]

It's not nothing out of, like, negative. It's out of fun. But it's, you could see that they're loving practice. They're loving to practice. But I think that starts when your quarterback loves practice, when he's having fun being out there. And you can feel those guys responding

[Mike]

that way in practice. Your response, reaction, the team's reaction to

[Coach John Sumrall]

that catch that camp Coleman had that

[Coach Sarkisian]

you all post, that's crazy catch, man.

[Mike]

I don't, I don't know, like, I

[Coach Sarkisian]

Tried to check his gloves, thought it was old school.

[Shane]

Stick him on there. That was a.

[Coach Sarkisian]

It was a heck of a play.

[Mike]

So Sark's got jokes and Arch Manning loosening up, talking, according to Sark. Does that do anything for you, Shane? Does that make you more confident about old Arch going into your second year as a starting quarterback?

[Shane]

It does, right? I mean, because here we are on the outside talking about how much pressure is inside that locker room and when you hear in your quarterback, you know, not being tight, I feel like that it opens up like, hey, man, this is, this is a football team that knows exactly what they have. This is a coach that knows exactly what. I mean, he's been around championship football squads. So everybody's good now, right? Little pep in their step. But that's, that's going to tighten up pretty quick here in the next couple weeks, I would imagine.

[Mike]

I like this comment from Mike because I saw it too. I was like, that can't be what that says.

[Shane]

They need to change the logo. Std.

[Mike]

That's what it was. I was like, right, no, hey, the state of the state of Texas. Shane. So I haven't heard much from A and M's offensive coordinator before. Holloman, Wiggins. What are they going to do with old Marcel Shane? I don't know if you're aware of this. Marcel Reed's never had a dedicated quarterbacks coach in College Station. He's got one now. Marcel, for the first time having a

[Coach Sarkisian]

dedicated quarterback coach that isn't splitting duties. How have you maybe seen him develop

[Shane]

by having the ability to work with

[Coach Sarkisian]

you, but then also have his own position coach like.

[Coach Lynch]

Like that.

[Interviewer]

Yeah, it's been great, right? You know, because you talk about Coach lynch, who's been a coordinator in this league, who's well versed in quarterback play, but also has, you know, a really great background just as far as developing quarterbacks. And now you continue to see Marcel and his growth. Just as far as understanding kind of what we're doing, we're putting more on a quarterback, you know, this year and we're asking more of the quarterback. And he's done a great job of understanding that, but also making sure that he's ready for that. So I've seen kind of his game kind of take it to the next level and I think there's. That's a part of growth kind of on his part, him understanding that this is a year that he knows that this offense is going to go as he goes. Him kind of finding comfort in kind of what we're doing, but also him putting the time in. Right. Like it's hard to get results if you don't put the time in and you don't have the right kind of habits and he's developing all of those.

[Mike]

So I think that's interesting, Shane, because I don't know if you heard over the off season there was some discussion about, I can't remember the exact question, but it was something somebody asked Marcel Reed. It may have been at media days. And he just said, I'm trying to remind people that I'm, that I am a quarterback. And then we just play, you know, we share these anonymous coach comments. Yeah, this guy thinks he's a quarterback. And then here we got Wiggins, our new offense coordinator, saying, hey, we're putting more on him. We're going to go as he goes. So somebody has to be proven right here. Either A and M is going to show that Marcel Reed is the quarterback, that that can get us back to the playoff, or the, all these haters are going to be proven right because if they're, if they're putting more on Marcel and he's not good enough to be a traditional quarterback, then A and M is going to fall. So I just think this is kind of an interesting dynamic we got here.

[Shane]

You know, it's funny, just, just tweet Marcel Reed's a bad quarterback and, and watch the bookmarks. Then Maggie's gonna let you know if he has a good season. Now, they may disappear at the end of the year if it goes the opposite way, but Mike, I, I, this is, this football team, I mean, it's ultimate success comes down to those two guys. The coach there, that coordinator and Marcel Reed just getting it, getting it going. And I have no doubt my mind they've got plenty of talent down there to do it. But again, has it been unlocked? Yes. But not every, single, you know, damn football game. So Marcel's, this is a big prove it year for him. And you know how we talked about NFL like, I don't know why they keep talking like Marcel wants to play in the NFL and right now he's not going to. I mean he'll, he may get an opportunity on a, as a backup, but this is an opportunity for him to prove that he could be a franchise quarterback. So this is a big prove it season for, for, for Marcel. And I gotta say this, that hoodie, freaking awesome. But then I started thinking it's, it's College Station in August. Damn, this guy's crazy. So, yeah, Wild man here it's the first time I've seen the coordinator. I like him.

[Mike]

Well, again, I don't want to put this Marcel Reed in the class of all these guys I'm about to mention Shane. Yeah, but there was literally no buzz on. Joe Burrow, his, his final year at lsu. Fernando Mendoza. There was, to my knowledge, no buzz on. I know Georgia was interested, Missouri was interested, but they weren't sitting here saying, this guy's gonna be the first pick in the damn draft. You know what I mean? There, there's, I don't even think Jaden Dales, remember he came back to school. Yeah, I, I do recall he had like an opportunity to go to the NFL, but I don't think he was, I think he was going to be like a low round pick. Huh. Again, is Marcel Reed these guys? No, but there's, there's so many guys who were like, this guy, this guy's just a college quarterback and then he has a big breakout and all of a sudden he's a first round pick. All those guys I just mentioned were, you know, that, that could be Marcel with all these weapons he's got. Come on, man, come on.

[Shane]

Like Chris Winky back in the day, you know, just, no, I, I, brother. There's not a lot of veterans in the Southeastern Conference either. And you know those, everybody talks about the practice and how important it is and stuff, but it doesn't matter when the lights come on. And this is a guy that's been doing it for a couple of years. So as far as experience, I don't think there's a more experienced quarterback in this league, is there? Maybe Leor.

[Mike]

Yeah, yeah. Loris would be one that stands out, but specifically in this conference, no, another, you know, a lot of these guys like Sam Levitt in, in other conferences, Trinidad and lower levels, John Mattier at Washington State. But yeah, not in this conference. It's, it's Sellers and it's Marcel Reed.

[Shane]

Yeah, yeah, the vets.

[Mike]

Well, yeah, speaking of a vet, I love this one. Shane, from our friend John Sumral. He's gonna coach him hard as he said.

[Shane]

Your philosophy, look, on just breaking down the team and then building them back up mentally, you know, challenging them, you

[Mike]

know what I mean?

[Shane]

Like, yeah,

[Coach John Sumrall]

Our job is to always be demanding. The standard is really, really high and it never wavers. I'm not necessarily into breaking a player down. I am into making things hard. Like this is a challenging game and tough teams win. And so I think you have to embrace a level of toughness and grit. It takes to be successful. You know, I. I don't have a desire to really break anything down, but I do want our guys to be challenged to the point that they're mentally tough and they can overcome adversity because there's going to be adversity. And so we create adverse situations every day in practice. But I've never really prescribed, like, let's. Let's break them down. Now. I do prescribe to the theory of, like, let's push them to the edge. Like, let's make it right there. Let's put our toe right on that line of how hard can we make this? But. But I don't want guys to break down because I want them to all be available. And so I don't. I mean, we coach them really, really hard all the time. You know, the guys are. And if they're not coachable or don't want to get coached, and I don't want them to come here because it's not going to be a good fit.

[Mike]

But.

[Coach John Sumrall]

But I'm not. I don't really prescribe to, like, breaking anybody down. Yeah. I just. I. I don't know. I want to build. I want to always build them up. Sometimes you build them up by being hard as. I mean, that's like, just the truth. Sometimes it's got to be really, really freaking hard to build them up. But I don't want to ever break them down because I'm. They're broke down. They're not any good.

[Mike]

Speaking of building, I love that he could take a kind of a stupid question and be like, yeah, I see where you're going with this. And here's an honest answer. I love that. And shout out Liquid. Pointing out Billy Napier couldn't open the damn water bottle he was crushing. Coach just destroyed one.

[Shane]

He crushed that water. I was like, oh, man, Florida's got a coach. You know, that's not Liquid's comment posted up.

[Mike]

But, hey, makes a good point, right? You know, it's got to be hard.

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Mike]

If you. If you're going to make a championship team, it's got to be hard as hell. But at the same time, you know, there's. There's got to be limits.

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Mike]

We can't have junction boys here.

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Mike]

Remember, for anybody that doesn't get that reference, Paul. Paul Bryant. Shane allegedly took 100 players to camp and about 20 came back. He didn't kill anybody, but the rest just quit, you know?

[Shane]

Yeah. Yeah. I definitely would have been one of those, Mike. So.

[Mike]

But.

[Shane]

But again, you got to set expectations you're creating a new culture down there. The standards that John Sumrall wants and you know that's what you're signing up for. You, you watch a guy like Kirby Smart, you know, the, the vets there, they're telling the new guys, hey, this is, this is how it is. They're making, they're moving you along. But if that, if that line's never set early in this in camp, then, then you're going to fall short and then halfway through the season you're going to mess up. I don't know if you got a Womack. I was listening to him today too, and he was talking a little bit about like the Florida State game. He says it's kind of like a fine line in hitting and physical practice, you know, and you don't want to get anybody hurt or anything like that. He says, but you know, you got to, we got to in essence practice hard or we're going to get beat like we did last year at the Florida State. Of course, I'm paraphrasing, but that's, you know, it's just, it's a, it's a fine line, but you have to be physical because this is a very physical conference.

[Mike]

You could have fooled me. They didn't practice physicality at Alabama last year.

[Shane]

Oh, they, they own it now. They're on it, cuz.

[Mike]

Just like Mizu fans on it. Only quarterback that we talked about November is Austin submits Hardy and Simmons will be Heisman talks. Let's go. M I Z. Oh, what is, what does he got to do be in the Heisman conversation? You think Shane Austin just.

[Shane]

This team's got to be 10 and 2 and they got to have some signature wins. And by signature wins, I mean Georgia on the road, Texas at home. You know, they got to have something that, that, that carries a little bit. Because the problem with the, the Heisman is you kind of have to win it earlier in the season. You think about Mendoza. Mendoza won it because of that awesome catch in the back of the end zone. Right? I, I'm not saying he won it because of that, but that put him on the map. So he's got to have a game like that early against an A M or an Ole Miss on the road.

[Coach Beamer]

Dang.

[Mike]

And he gifted 20 membership. He's feeling it. He's feeling the Heisman drinks burner.

[Shane]

I see he's starting starting the Heisman propaganda already. Well played, coach.

[Mike]

Hey, how about Old Lane Lane Train? I didn't think he said anything too interesting, but latest on Sam Levitt, you know, again, guys up thousand percent. But what's been your review of Sam

[Coach John Sumrall]

so far now that he's practicing fully

[Mike]

and does it influence your preseason plan in any way?

[Coach John Sumrall]

Because there's sort of that compressed amount

[Mike]

of time with him at full strength like you have.

[Coach Lynch]

Sam's had a great week, had a great practice today, taking care of the ball, really throwing the ball really accurate and on time and extremely pleased with his week and how he looks. You know, we have high standards, how we want things and what we want them to look like, you know, and probably, he was probably unrealistic what I was expecting to look like when he can't move and he's, you know, just throwing without really having his weight to be able to push into. So now that he's healthy, he said he's had a great week. We're really excited about him.

[Mike]

Oh, he seems excited, doesn't he?

[Shane]

You can't. He can barely hold it back. Mike.

[Mike]

I'm really excited about Sam Levitt.

[Shane]

Oh, man, he always gets excited about tick tocks and stuff. But it's quarterback. No, and, but I do like it. You know, whether you believe it or not, I, I think that this is a big sign because that was for me, some of the biggest question marks coming into this thing is what if Sam doesn't play, right? Does the Clemson game change? Does it, you know, bleed into an Ole Miss matchup? So fact he's out here, you know, early August, getting some reps. That's a good sign, man.

[Mike]

I think so too, Shane. I think so too. And Sam Levitt was in good spirits. Hard to believe considering our friend Chris Marlow was asking him questions. I don't know if you saw the. Shane, this went super viral. Same two parter, both very important, new to Louisiana. What's been your favorite part or your favorite food spot here in Baton Rouge? And then also saw video dunking over the goal post this summer. There's only like four basketball players on the team right now. Any chance you're gonna have to suit up for Will Wade's squad this upcoming year?

[Guest Commentator]

Yeah, no, the people are great in Louisiana. The passion, you know, just walking down the street is in print is pretty incredible, Justin. You know, the way that they, they love the state and put on for the state, you know, it just makes you want to be here even more. People around the facility just showing so much love to Baton Rouge and the entire area, you know, it's just been a blessing being out here, you know, I didn't think I really didn't even, you know, I'm from Oregon, so Louisiana kind of felt almost fake to me in a way. I didn't think, I didn't think it was a real place. But after being out here, you know, I just love the trees and I've always wanted to be in the South. The humidity, obviously, was something I had to get used to, but I love it now. I love the way it makes my skin feel and, you know, everything like that. So it's been, it's been amazing. Sorry, what was your last.

[Mike]

So people jumped on that. Shane. Yeah, he didn't know Louisiana was real. Clearly, clearly the guy's joking, but I, I get it. It's a, it's culture shock when you come down to the South. And I, I just think it's funny that Marler went viral for, for something like that, you know?

[Venmo User]

What?

[Shane]

Oh, it's one of many, you know, I, I still wonder how he sneaks into those things, but I, I, I love it. And, and honestly, it's, it's a perfect recipe because at least he'll ask the questions, you know? Yeah, no, I, I, I mean, this said really didn't do much. Right. It didn't change anything how I feel about Sam. But I do think that you got to remember there's a lot of new faces down there, you know, and the, the other concern about not having your leader out there was kind of bringing those guys together. And so I, I think they got a good kid here. I feel like LSU is going to win a lot of football games this year, but I will tell you, man, they, if you were to put everything from top to bottom, from all 16 teams, LSU by far had the most coverage this offseason, and it wasn't even close. So they, they, they're building something special down there. If not, we're going to watch it, man. And we're going to wait for Marlor's questions next Saturday.

[Mike]

Hey, I, I don't have a clip here because it wasn't worth playing, but Alabama, they interviewed Ryan Grub, the offensive coordinator today, Shane, and they asked him about the quarterback competition. Literally, this is, these are the quotes he said. No separation, even battle. Now, again, it's early in camp, but does that do anything for you? Are we just, are we truly neck and neck? Are we waiting for a scrimmage or, you know, at this point, do you think we're, we're going to see multiple Bama quarterbacks out here?

[Shane]

I really do think that this one's close, but I'm I, I don't, I don't know, man. I really think that this is going to come down the wire and ECU doesn't really matter who you're going to be able to roll out there, you know what I'm saying?

[Mike]

Stephen told us yesterday East Carolina was pretty good last year. He put this as a sleeper.

[Shane]

Oh man, Stephen.

[Mike]

I.

[Shane]

Why is he always doing that? If it's not Texas, it's ecu. It's just, come on. I, there's no way that this is going to be a ball game. I, they could come out here. Alabama could leave all quarterbacks on the sideline and still win by three scores. That's what should happen here. They could come out there literally with 10 players and win by three scores. So I'm not concerned with who they got at quarterback. But it does not, it would not blow my mind if this isn't a two drive, two drive situation, you know, just to get some valuable reps and make sure you make the right decision. Because apparently Caleb DeBoer is under some pressure this year.

[Mike]

And the only other note here I thought was kind of interesting from Bama camp. Yeah, running back A.K. deer, redshirt freshman. Apparently he's coming on strong, Shane, and he's not even the young running back everyone's excited about. They're excited about E.J. crowell, who's it was been kind of banged up, but not anymore. Shane, he's looking good. He's. I, I think Alabama may have a two headed monster at running back down here. Does that do anything for you?

[Shane]

Oh, I'm telling you. Where's Stephen up at? He's around here somewhere.

[Mike]

He's.

[Shane]

He had to walk, he had to walk away from his computer for a second, Mike, because he's so damn excited about the Tide. So. Yeah, how can he not be? Man, this is, this is a team that we, we've kind of picked apart all offseason and now it's starting to come together at the right time. So I like it and I like the coaches. I, I listen to all of them, the coordinators talk. They were, they were upbeat, they were positive. But I do feel like there's some learning needing to be done this, these next couple of weeks, you know. Sure. Up a couple of these, these spots

[Mike]

and then at Mississippi State. So again they're another one chain that is potentially if this is allowed, which again I'm not against it, but we do. Greg Sankey seems like he kind of is. They're going to be adding two players from last Year's squad. Shane down at Mississippi State to add to that defense and two really good ones. Edge rusher Malik Sila, I think is how you say that. And safety Jaron Manning. So again, these are guys that are at eligibility that have a fifth year if they want it. Manning had 91 tackles last year at the safety spot. An interception, four tackles for loss. And Sila had 33 tackles, led the team with seven and tackles for loss, two sacks. So Jeff Leby has clarified they are not cleared to practice, but he says they're in the building. There's not too much to say besides that because they're not eligible. So again, if, if big if here or maybe a little if, I don't know. But if they're back, Mississippi State adding two veterans to the defense, that's hell. This late in the process, that's, that's a giant win.

[Shane]

Yeah, for them, definitely bad. They need everything positive to go their way. Stay healthy, get more bodies out there. Yeah, this is a big one for Mississippi State for sure.

[Mike]

And how about Carolina, Shane?

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Mike]

Is this big deal? No deal? You tell me. Beamer seems like he's getting tired of asking or getting asked about Dylan Stewart and Jacarius.

[Coach Beamer]

Pete Fence, but that's a. Defensively, special teams. As we go through the week

[Interviewer]

on

[Shane]

Jacarius and Dylan, have, have they been able to practice yet? And if not, do you guys kind of have a timeline for when you want to see them out there?

[Coach Beamer]

Yeah, they're at practice and they're doing different parts of what they're able to, you know, throughout the day. As far as the timeline, again, we'll go on what the doctors tell us. And like, as I've said to you guys for the last month, Jordan, they're right on track and progressing nicely, I've

[Mike]

told you, for the last month. But again, they're at full participants as far as I know, so I don't, I don't know. Are you concerned at all?

[Shane]

I think the next question was about them too, just reworded a different way. So peak I'm concerned, Stewart, I'm not. That's kind of where I'm at. I, I don't feel like South Carolina needs to rush any of them. Right. I, I, I like how their schedule sets up as you got it up here. If for those that are just listening, we got Kent at home, Towson week two, Mississippi State week three, all three at home. So I, I feel like it's, you need you, you need these guys late in the season, you know, when you get into the meat of this schedule, brother, that's when you need those guys so rushing them to get out there for Kent State.

[Mike]

I.

[Shane]

Who cares, right? I. I want, I want a healthy steward out there. I want a healthy peak out there. So I'm not going to pressure coach in, in doing this.

[Mike]

A thumb. Spurs. Therms. Thumb. I. I can't even say that. Sub herms down. He said November 21, no contest.

[Shane]

Thumbs up, horns down.

[Mike]

Okay, good.

[Shane]

Yeah, yeah, we need more spaces in here.

[Mike]

Who's. Oh, that's Arkansas.

[Shane]

O. Oh. Oh, okay. Okay, wait.

[Mike]

Or is he talking about Carolina? Georgia. Oh.

[Shane]

Oh.

[Mike]

Either way, those would be two massive upsets.

[Shane]

Yeah, that would be a massive one.

[Coach Lynch]

Yeah.

[Shane]

Thumbs up, horns down. So I'd. That would probably be Arkansas beating them. So I had maybe. I don't know. Yeah, that would make sense. Arkasa hates Texas. Yeah, I can get behind that one. Yeah. I'm not ready for these word games late in the show, Mike.

[Mike]

And then we got one more on Beaver. It's a little bit long, but for. I bet a lot of people don't know this guy yet. Shane. Five star true freshman Darius Gray. He was rated as the number one interior offensive line prospect in the country. Now he's in his first fall. He wasn't even there for spring, but he may be starting the way Beamer's talking about him.

[Shane]

When we were talking over the winter, I said that Darius Gray kind of

[Coach Sarkisian]

had some Demetrius Knight energy just in

[Shane]

the way he carries himself. What have you seen from him, you know, so far in the start of camp and maturity wise, just kind of. How has he stood out so far?

[Coach Beamer]

Yeah, he's, he's pretty impressive. He really is, just as a person. I mean, you forget he wasn't even here for spring practice. He just showed up in the summertime and the summer that he had was elite. You know, what he was able to do physically in the summertime was really impressive as a true freshman. And then what he's able to do, was able to do or is able to do so far in practice is impressive. Now, don't get me wrong, it's four days in, there's a lot of football, and he's got a long ways to go. But the initial, the initial, initial impressions are really good. Just he's, he's, he's got his stuff together and it's an impressive guy on and off the field. I pulled him aside yesterday, Lulu, because we're throwing a lot at him and I told him, I'm like, look, man, like, I know we're throwing a lot at you right now and asking a lot of you. So if it gets to be too much, you know, mentally, it gets to be too much. Just, you know, make sure you communicate because you're the same person every day, but it's okay. And he's like, coach, I went to St Christopher's which is a great school in Richmond. Shout out Coach Clelland at St. Chris in Richmond. But his point was like, there's nothing that I, you know, I can handle it. And that's just who he is. He. He's the same person every day. And he's not on this like, emotional roller coaster of tough practices and, and tough challenges mentally. Just kind of goes about his business and it's going to be a really, really, really, really good player here.

[Mike]

Oh, Shane. I mean, you're not going to hear a head coach talk that impressively, I feel like, about a true freshman, particularly on the offensive line. That's why I wanted to play it. And we all know what a key position of need that is for the Gamecocks. I mean, it sounds like they got one hell of a first year lineman.

[Shane]

Yeah. Beamer's in love, ain't he?

[Mike]

I'll tell you who else is in love. Shade. Fred. Oh, bucks ribs going titted to Shane. If you don't agree, you're sleeping on the floor.

[Shane]

Yeah, Fred, I may have to put that camper in your front yard. So

[Mike]

did you see it? 10 and 2.

[Shane]

10. Oh, yeah. Honestly, there's a handful. I told you, brother. I feel like there are a lot of teams that if the stars align, they're gonna, they're gonna make a run. This is one of them. You know, Vegas clearly doesn't think it, but, I mean, I could see them going 10 and 2 here if. Trent. Yeah. How could you not? I'm not saying it happens, but you're asking. Can I see it? Yes, I could see it, Fred.

[Mike]

All right. Hey, the only last thing I got for you, Shane. No clip or anything, but, hey, early returns, it's. It's. Take it for what it's worth, right?

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Mike]

We're so early in camp, I don't even believe we've had a scrimmage yet in the Southeastern Conference. But the buzz out of Knoxville, Shane, George McIntyre lighting it up.

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Mike]

May have taken the early lead at a fall camp in the quarterback competition when after six months of hearing nothing but Faizal, Brandon here. Could it be George McIntyre, who's the starting quarterback at Tennessee, you know, who

[Shane]

Tennessee loves a quarterback that wins, so it could be Faison, it could be Big Mac, it could be sec Mike. It does not matter.

[Venmo User]

Really.

[Shane]

It does. And I feel like there's a part of you that deep down inside is rooting for maybe one as opposed to the other, but at the end of the day, man, it doesn't matter if you're winning football games. So, yeah, I, I'm. I'm kind of like, I trust Hypo. He's always been able to put a good quarterback out there, and if this thing's a competition and he needs some more time on it, I'm okay letting it marinate a little bit longer.

[Mike]

Do you really trust him, though, when.

[Shane]

Yes.

[Mike]

He, you know, he didn't start hidden Hooker.

[Coach Sarkisian]

Yeah.

[Shane]

Because he wasn't ready. He wasn't ready.

[Mike]

Joe Milton over him.

[Shane]

Yeah. That was probably some outside influence. He was young in the game. Probably had some boosters saying, we need, we need the, the missile arm out there.

[Mike]

And the whole time Joe Milton was out there, the afterwards you were saying, God, put Nico in there.

[Shane]

It was. Maybe it was more of a Joe Milton thing. We just. The thing about Joe Milton that drove me freaking batty was he did not run. He's one of the fastest quarterbacks to ever play at the University of Tennessee. And it did not click in there or they did not let him do it. But if he could have figured that part out, plus a little bit of the accuracy, I felt like Joe could have been great in this offense. But, yeah, I was constantly comparing him to Hinden Hooker, so it was going to fail in that comparison.

[Mike]

Well, I think. Who's going to win the quarterback job? Shane or. I've said this many times, they've got to get a guy, whoever can throw the downfield ball and throw it accurately.

[Shane]

Yep.

[Mike]

Because that's just so paramount to Hypo's offense. We've got. They've got the running ability, they've got the receivers, but if you can't hit that downfield throw, whether It's Faison or McIntyre, if you can't do it, I don't think you could play in this offense because it just, it, it handicaps you so much.

[Shane]

Yeah. And Max put on some weight, too. He's not as skinny as he used to be, so. And he's got legs. He's not, he's not one of these guys that's just gonna sit back there like a statue. So all three of these quarterbacks can move or at least get the chains moving. Now, Faison's probably going to do it a little better than everyone. We know that. But you're to your point if you have no downfield accuracy, and I'm not saying Faison and company doesn't, but you know, that's. That's the main thing that keeps this thing rolling.

[Mike]

Well, you know who's got all the accuracy in the world? Shane.

[Shane]

Who's that, cuz?

[Mike]

Liquid.

[Shane]

Ah, Liquid.

[Mike]

Let me. Yeah, here we go. Liquid gifted five members. Shane Sooner or Gator. That's a cool name. Jesse Sewell. Jesse Shout out Jesse Clay Johansson, Oklahoma man and 69 Texas cowboy. That's a cool name. And then we got loyal Glenn. Shout out Glenn Boomer.

[Shane]

Hell yeah. Thank us.

[Mike]

He gifted five as well. Shane. He gifted. Oh, it's tiny type. Hold on one second. He gifted Lofties, Brooklyn gq, Kirby's belt. Oh, Jamie, the Bengals, and Byram M. I've all been gifted thanks to Glenn Warsaw.

[Interviewer]

Thank you.

[Mike]

And then we got ste Up Road Tad.

[Shane]

There he is.

[Mike]

He gifted Five Shade, Dale Duley, Bradley Monroe, Slick 345 Ram and Ozark Zou, courtesy of Step Shout out. Step it up. And we got Jared. Oh, I think I may have missed Jared's. No, he got old Mace. Yeah, shout out Jared for gifted Old maze. We appreciate your buddy. And then we had. Oh, damn it. The name the one we. Thumbs up, thumbs up, horns down. Okay. He became a member and then bazoo head with the 20 hell yeah. Donation was a gifted Ice Young the community notes Okie Sooner, UT Vol and Bama Ocienda Juxtaposition. Jerry J. William, Kelsey Malark. That's a weird name. Soon. Oh, wait, we got Sooner Gator already. Here they are. Gator Fred Portable, Priz, Sooner Sports Blue.

[Shane]

Oh, God.

[Mike]

Little clout Serve Servant, Te something. Mike P. Raymond Berry, Sorin Spade, Alex Waller, Jesse Browning and August

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[Mike]

All of y' all welcome.

[Shane]

Welcome to the family.

[Mike]

Anything else, buddy? Before I J. P?

[Shane]

No.

[Coach John Sumrall]

No.

[Shane]

So good seeing everybody again and look forward to seeing y' all tomorrow. So, hey, if I'm going, if you're gonna be at one of those three destinations, I'll be sure to keep you posted where we'll be parked. And hopefully we'll be able to see you while we're down there. So looking forward to it, cuz.

[Mike]

Well, that's gonna do it for this episode. We'll catch you next week.

[Shane]

All right, see you guys. Go ball.

[Mike]

Hey, buddy, this beer's for you.

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