On today’s episode of That Was Us, we’re diving into Season 5, Episode 14: "The Music and the Mirror." As Beth questions her future after the collapse of her dance studio, Kate searches for purpose and confidence, Kevin reflects on the life he’s building with Madison, and Toby struggles with feeling lost after losing his job.

In this episode, the hosts chat about:

* Chris’s journey from competitive tennis to pickleball

* Mandy’s evolving relationship with music and finding her way back to singing

* Parenting, communication, and helping kids navigate big emotions and boundaries

* Beth’s emotional journey as her dance studio struggles through the pandemic

* Randall learning that sometimes support means showing up rather than fixing the problem

* Kevin’s disastrous movie screening and growing doubts about his future with Madison

* Rebecca and Kate’s emotional reconciliation and the healing of old wounds

* Toby’s struggle with unemployment, pride, and asking for help

They’re also joined by Abby Romeo and her mother Christine, from Love on the Spectrum, to discuss:

* How This Is Us helped them better understand one another

* Abby’s experience as a Gestalt thinker and why the show's flashback structure resonates with her

* The importance of openness and representation when talking about autism

* Abby’s songwriting process and how music helps her process her experiences

And a friendly reminder, you can catch new episodes of That Was Us every Monday, a day early, exclusively on Hulu. Available on Spotify, YouTube, or wherever you get your podcasts on Tuesdays like usual! That Was Us is produced by Rabbit Grin Productions. Music by Taylor Goldsmith and Griffin Goldsmith.

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🍋 About the Show:

The stars of This Is Us, Mandy Moore, Sterling K. Brown, and Chris Sullivan, dive back into the world of the Pearsons, reliving each episode and all the life lessons that came with it.

Together, they dig in and dig deep, have the tough conversations, bring in very special and familiar guests, share never-before-heard behind-the-scenes moments, and feature listeners in highly anticipated fan segments.

Join your favorite family back in the living room to examine our past, cherish our present, and look to the future with new episodes of That Was Us every Tuesday.

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Executive Producers: Natalie Holysz and Rob Holysz

Creative Producer: Sam Skelton

Production Coordinator: Andrew Rowley

Video Editor: Todd Hughlett

Mix & Master: Jason Richards About Headgum:

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