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Episode: MBA2692 Extended Interview: Founder of Reebok Joe Foster and Ben Weiss of Syntilay - How To Dream Big & Serve The Underserved

Aired: October 20, 2025
Host: Omar Zenhom
Guests: Joe Foster (Co-founder of Reebok), Ben Weiss (Founder of Syntilay)

Overview

This extended interview brings together Joe Foster, legendary co-founder of Reebok, and Ben Weiss, the visionary founder of Syntilay, an innovative footwear startup. Host Omar Zenhom explores what it means to build enduring brands, innovate fearlessly, and serve overlooked markets. Listeners are treated to a rich conversation spanning the Reebok legacy, personal stories of grit, the birth of Syntilay, the power of serving the underserved, and actionable advice for dreamers and builders everywhere.

Key Topics and Discussion Points

1. Longevity, Purpose, and Staying Active

• [03:49-04:49]

  • Joe Foster reflects on turning 90 and what keeps him engaged: staying active, having purpose, and “never stopping."

  • Ben Weiss notes that Joe's longevity and energy come from continual involvement in meaningful projects.

    “If you have purpose and meaning in your life, there’s reason to keep going always. Joe’s doing things people 45 years younger are doing — that's the key.” — Ben Weiss ([04:17])

2. Rediscovering Purpose Post-Exit

• [04:49-06:05]

  • Joe found new drive by writing his autobiography Shoemaker, which reconnected him with his business journey and led to speaking invitations and advising new ventures.

  • The importance of telling your own story in business.

    “They started telling me how Reebok began... a lot of made up nonsense. The best thing to do is write a book.” — Joe Foster ([05:09])

3. Building Reebok: Luck, Risk and Family Legacy

• [06:05-09:40]

  • Reebok’s ascent in the 1980s: The mix of hard work, luck, and finding excitement in the unknown.

  • Leaving the family business wasn’t a risk but a necessity because the original J.W. Foster shoe company was failing.

    “If you don't have luck on your side, it's going to be hard. Enjoy yourself. If you’re not having fun, change direction.” — Joe Foster ([07:42]) “Going on our own really wasn't a challenge, it was a necessity.” — Joe Foster ([11:12])

4. Founding Syntilay: The New Era of Footwear

• [12:01-14:44]

  • Ben Weiss describes seeing a shift from athlete-driven brands to the “third wave”: content creators who need their own signature shoes.

  • AI design and 3D printing enables customization without high upfront costs or inventory risk.

    “If we had an interesting method to make shoes faster and more affordably, we can now give creators a shot.” — Ben Weiss ([12:01])

5. The Syntilay Experience: Customization and Disruption

• [14:44-16:34]

  • Omar shares ordering his own Syntilay shoes — a fully digital, AI-powered, foot-scanning experience.

  • The direct tie to Reebok’s spirit of innovation (Reebok Pumps, Hexalites).

    “It was kind of like the iPhone or driving an electric car — why didn't this exist before?” — Omar Zenhom ([14:52])

6. Shoe Innovation: Reebok Pump & Tech Insights

• [16:34-18:40]

  • Joe details the origin and challenges of Reebok Pump versus Nike’s approach.

  • Reebok’s innovation was about usability — integrated, interactive features.

    “It’s how you present an innovation... Reebok used what looked like a tennis ball or basketball — you just pump it by pressing it.” — Joe Foster ([16:34])

7. Finding White Space & Innovation Strategy

• [20:56-23:09]

  • Advice for innovators: don’t just copy competitors; look for unserved niches ("white space") or technological edge.

  • Large companies are bound by volume, but new players can win with uniqueness and speed.

    “Anybody who wants to find space, they’ve got to look at all the different areas where they’d like to make a difference.” — Joe Foster ([22:41])

8. Go-to-Market for Syntilay

• [23:09-26:29]

  • Ben outlines dual GTM strategies: telling the AI/tech story in media, but creating “experiential” moments (in-person try-ons) for social media and customer education.

  • Surprising feedback: people are shocked at how comfortable 3D-printed shoes can be.

    “People are just surprised by how comfortable they are... It’s even more comfortable than some of the traditional shoes out there.” — Ben Weiss ([25:31])

9. Overcoming Setbacks and Lessons in Resilience

• [26:29-32:18]

  • Joe recounts Reebok’s tough beginnings: forced name changes, legal threats from Adidas, bankruptcy of distributors.

  • Reframes adversity into opportunity — the famous switch to direct-to-athlete selling.

    “When you get challenges, think of them as opportunity... Being nimble on your feet.” — Joe Foster ([27:10])

10. Taking Action versus Overthinking

• [32:18-35:37]

  • Advice for young or overthinking entrepreneurs: act, don’t get stuck in analysis. If it doesn't work, move on.

  • The value of meeting people, building teams, and finding joy in solving hard problems.

    “You can enjoy the bad times as well as the good times. Getting out of that problem is really fun.” — Joe Foster ([32:18])

11. Future Vision for Syntilay & The Power of Content Creators

• [39:37-44:27]

  • Syntilay aims to be the go-to brand for creators and lifestyle brands previously locked out of footwear.

  • Massive untapped potential as influencers are more numerous than pro athletes; Syntilay’s tech makes testing new “creator shoes” viable at scale.

    “The content creator space in general could be the biggest niche in footwear.” — Ben Weiss ([39:37])

12. Scaling Innovation & Overcoming Cost Hurdles

• [44:27-46:42]
  • Syntilay is still challenged by 3D printing costs, but aims to further reduce costs, improve capacity, and broaden its style range.
  • Industry comparison to Adidas — Syntilay strives to offer more affordable, personalized options.

13. Joe’s Foundational Advice: Focus on Marketing

• [46:42-49:31]

  • Joe’s core guidance: Don’t get caught up in craft for its own sake. Focus on marketing, breaking rules, and presenting bold ideas.

  • Product must be novel and work, but “being a shoemaker holds you back — marketing is key.”

    “Never become a shoemaker. Don’t learn how to make shoes. Let shoemakers do that. You just have ideas.” — Joe Foster ([46:42])

14. Brand vs Wealth

• [49:31-52:28]

  • Joe distinguishes between building enduring brands and chasing short-term “start, scale, sell” cycles.

  • Pride in being a founder and making something memorable — financial success follows great products and brands.

    “If you really do get a great product, finance looks after itself... I'd rather be known as a brand builder.” — Joe Foster ([50:19])

15. The Power of Persistence

• [52:57-54:42]

  • Ben learned persistence from Joe: success may take years and multiple attempts; don’t quit before the breakthrough.

  • Having fun and loving the journey are essential.

    “That persistence doesn’t change. It’s as essential today as ever.” — Ben Weiss ([52:57])

16. Brand Ubiquity: From Athletes to Everyone

• [54:42-57:36]
  • Reebok’s transition from performance to universal lifestyle appeal was a mix of luck and timing.
  • Targeting women in aerobics gave Reebok immense growth and later spillover into tennis, basketball, and everyday wear.
  • Modern brands (e.g., On, Crocs) find unique “white spaces” and explode from smart marketing.

17. Serving Underserved Markets

• [60:38-62:34]

  • Reebok’s aerobics revolution and Syntilay’s influencer focus are both about spotting overlooked, rapidly growing communities.

  • Advice: look where your competitors aren’t; democratize access.

    “People are trying to go after all the same markets their competitors are... There are people who actually need your product and service that are not being recognized.” — Omar Zenhom ([60:38])

18. How Influencers Can Get Involved

• [62:34-65:01]

  • Syntilay is unusually open: interested influencers or brand-builders can reach out for collaboration, custom design, and new affiliate programs.

    “We're more open than most brands... We want to try things, we want to see what's going to work.” — Ben Weiss ([62:34])

19. Custom Fit and User Experience

• [65:01-66:36]
  • The Syntilay fit experience uses AI/machine vision, tailoring each shoe per foot.
  • People discover unique facts about their own body – “Why are my shoes not fitting me right?”

20. Letting the Market Decide

• [67:24-68:31]

  • Joe: Don’t assume you know what will work. Produce, test, and let customers decide.

    “It’s the market that tells you... produce enough for the market to tell you. That’s where you go.” — Joe Foster ([67:24])

21. Product as Collaboration and Interaction

• [68:31-71:51]

  • Both Reebok Pumps and Syntilay encourage customer interaction with the product, creating ownership and attachment.

    “Interacting with the creation of your shoe... you value the product more. Kind of like the IKEA effect.” — Omar Zenhom ([68:31])

22. Choosing the Right Partners: Charisma and Culture

• [71:51-73:22]

  • Iconic Reebok brand ties (Shaq, Iverson) were driven by market-savvy American teams, not UK leadership.

  • Memorable partners drive relevance and aspiration for the brand.

    “If you want to do things in America, employ Americans. Americans know what works.” — Joe Foster ([72:30])

23. Founder Ambitions, Motivations, and Energy

• [74:00-76:10]

  • Ben: Wants to empower everyone — “democratize greatness,” give creators new opportunities with shoes, inspire dreamers.

  • Joe: Jokes about seeing the next ten years, credits his wife and young team for his ongoing motivation and sense of excitement.

    “Greatness needs to be democratized. You should be able to feel you can be great in any direction you want in life...” — Ben Weiss ([74:00]) “What keeps me going is Julie, my wife... success is built on energy.” — Joe Foster ([76:50])

Notable Quotes

• “Going on our own really wasn't a challenge, it was a necessity.”
  — Joe Foster ([11:12])

• “If you don't have luck on your side, it's going to be hard. So number one, enjoy yourself.”
  — Joe Foster ([07:42])

• “People are just surprised by how comfortable they are... It's even, you know, more comfortable than some of the traditional shoes out there.”
  — Ben Weiss ([25:31])

• “When you get challenges, think of them as opportunity... Think this is an opportunity, you'll probably find a way around it.”
  — Joe Foster ([27:10])

• “You can enjoy the bad times as well as the good times. Getting out of that problem is really fun. Finding your way out is really good fun.”
  — Joe Foster ([32:18])

• “Never become a shoemaker. Don’t learn how to make shoes. Let shoemakers do that. You just have ideas.”
  — Joe Foster ([46:42])

• “If you really do get a great product, finance looks after itself.”
  — Joe Foster ([50:19])

• “That persistence doesn’t change. It’s as essential today as ever.”
  — Ben Weiss ([52:57])

• “Serving the underserved is serving the world.”
  — Implicit theme

Timeline: Important Segments

• 03:49 — Joe reflects on turning 90, Ben on longevity.
• 07:42 — Luck, work, and fun as ingredients of success.
• 11:12 — Leaving family business: necessity not risk.
• 12:01 — Innovation in footwear: Syntilay’s genesis.
• 14:44 — Omar’s Syntilay shoe experience.
• 16:34 — Reebok Pump: origin and design.
• 22:41 — Finding white space in crowded markets.
• 25:31 — Surprises with 3D printed shoe comfort.
• 27:10 — Adversity as opportunity.
• 32:18 — Action over overthinking.
• 39:37 — Vision for the “content creator shoe company.”
• 46:42 — Joe’s key advice: focus on ideas, not manufacturing.
• 52:57 — Persistence and the journey as its own reward.
• 67:24 — Let the market decide.
• 74:00 — Founder ambitions: making a difference, democratizing greatness.
• 76:50 — Joe: “What keeps me going is Julie, my wife... success is built on energy.”

Conclusion & Key Takeaways

• Innovation starts by serving the underserved: Both Reebok’s aerobics boom and Syntilay’s pursuit of influencers highlight the power of spotting neglected audiences.
• Build for passion, not just profit: Both Joe and Ben emphasize that “chasing money” doesn’t build brands — relentless focus, bold ideas, and fun do.
• Be nimble and resilient: Market challenges are road signs, not stop signs. Persistence and adaptability are essential.
• Act, don’t just plan: Overthinking is the enemy of execution. Try, fail fast, and pivot. The market is the ultimate decider.
• Technology amplifies possibility: AI and 3D printing are reshaping what’s possible in product, speed, and customization.
• Legacy is about impact: Lasting brands are those that create cultural moments, solve real pain points, and form strong personal bonds with customers.

For Listeners Wanting More

• Check out Joe’s book: Shoemaker
• Experience Syntilay: syntilay.com
• Subscribe to The $100 MBA Show for more actionable business insights

“Dream big. Serve those others ignore. Iterate fast. Do it with love.” — The spirit of this episode distilled.