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Podcast: The 404 Media Podcast
Episode: REPLAY: Pornhub Exec Alexzandra Kekesi Discusses Pulling Out of the South, Trad Wives, and Feet Pics
Date: January 5, 2026
Host: 404 Media
Guest: Alexzandra Kekesi, VP of Brand and Community at Pornhub

This episode features an in-depth interview with Alexzandra Kekesi, VP of Brand and Community at Pornhub, focusing on the company's evolving approach to compliance, community, and transparency in response to sweeping age verification laws and shifting cultural trends. The conversation covers Kekesi’s personal journey in the adult industry, the implications of new legislation for platforms and users, evolving porn consumption trends (including the rise of "trad wives," demure porn, and foot pics), and broader issues of stigma and digital policy.

Alexzandra Kekesi's Journey to Pornhub and the Industry (02:30–06:30)

• Academic Background in Gender & Sexuality:

  • Alexzandra studied at Concordia University's Simone de Beauvoir Institute and was fascinated by the intersection of sex work, feminism, and bodily autonomy.
  • Learned first-hand from sex worker instructors and academic texts about the criminalization and cultural shaping of sex work, especially in Montreal.

• Career Path:

  • Recruited by a friend at Manwin (Pornhub’s former parent company, later Mindgeek), starting in community management and social media for Tube8.
  • Progressed through various roles, ultimately leading to VP of Brand and Community, where she regularly interfaces with creators, event communities, and product teams.

• Platform’s Distinctiveness:

  • Stresses Pornhub’s commitment to listening to both positive and critical feedback from creators.
  • Describes regular, compensated “focus groups” with creators to shape site changes, compliance updates, and resource development.

“We want the good, the bad and the ugly when it comes to what creators have to say about us...that information is so valuable and so important, especially the criticism.” — Alexzandra (04:32)

Internal Challenges and Evolving Compliance (07:07–10:38)

• Misconceptions About Ease of Upload:

  • Contrary to popular belief, getting content online is complex by design, requiring rigorous identity and consent verification for all participants.
  • All content is moderated and checked against legal/illegal content databases.

• Creator Friction & Support:

  • The onboarding process is labor-intensive, creating frustration, especially for long-time creators used to less regulation.
  • Reliance on third-party verification introduces additional challenges.
  • Pornhub provides robust human (not AI) creator support, technical and marketing resources, and community access.

“Each content creator is really the way that we look at them: like a small business.” — Alexzandra (08:16)

Becoming the Public Face & Tackling Stigma (10:38–16:56)

• Decision to Go Public With Her Name:

  • The move from internal roles to public-facing VP status required personal resolve, especially given press speculation and stigma.

• Adult Industry Stigma:

  • Stigma impedes everything from basic financial services (sex workers unable to get mortgages) to presence on social platforms.
  • Alexzandra wants to “take up that space” as a non-sex worker, standing in solidarity with those in the industry for systemic change.

“If we want to start seeing things getting better, it can't just be sex workers advocating for themselves. Like, we also need people...to be out there and to be vocal and to take up that space...with sex workers themselves.” — Alexzandra (12:55)

• Transparency Push:
  • New ownership fostered greater openness with media and users, aiming to end the “no comment” era.

Cultural Trends: “Trad Wives,” Demure Content & Insight Reports (17:25–32:12)

• Year in Review & Trending Searches (17:25–23:43):

  • Notable spikes: “demure” (+133%), “simple sex” (+55%), “authentic sex” (+43%), “trad wife” (+72%), “traditional wife” (+34%), and unique terms like “Mormon sex.”
  • Hosts’ reaction: concern over “mainstream conservatism” seeping into sexual fantasy, reflecting wider social shifts.

• Interpretation of Porn Trends:

  • Porn search data is a “mirror” of societal behaviors, with cultural discourse and pop trends immediately producing spikes (e.g., “trad wives” following viral content creators or Mormon-themed shows).

“It really is indicative of, like, real trends or real change in society.” — Alexzandra (24:25)

• Creators Reacting to Trends:

  • Creators receive regular stats from Pornhub and quickly capitalize on trending themes, sometimes faster than the platform itself can report them.
  • Adult creators are seen as “trendsetters,” similar to the way Substack or Patreon have changed journalism.

• Monetization Funnel:

  • Pornhub serves as a “discovery platform,” allowing creators to link out to paid sites (OnlyFans, Amazon wishlists, etc.), akin to Spotify’s role for musical artists.

“We do pay by stream proportionately better than Spotify does per view. But, you know, that said, Spotify is a—not the only one, but a revenue stream for creators. So is Pornhub...” — Alexzandra (33:06)

Deep Dive: Age Verification Laws & Policy Battles (35:45–54:16)

• Nature of Age Verification Laws (36:32–37:47):

  • New state-level legislation requires sites with “one third or more adult content” to implement age checks (often via official ID upload).
  • Implementation and enforcement are fragmented, with resulting confusion and circumvention opportunities.

• Pornhub’s Response—State-by-State Blockades:

  • Pornhub complies either by implementing state-approved ID verification (LA Wallet in Louisiana) or, more commonly, by blocking access entirely.
  • Results: Louisiana’s 80%+ bounce rate—the overwhelming majority of users refuse to upload IDs to access porn.

“We're still seeing upwards of an 80% bounce rate...People are just like, nope. And I understand why. Right. Because it goes completely against human behavior...you're supposed to be very careful about [your information].” — Alexzandra (39:10)

• Risks of Mandated ID Uploads:
  • Privacy and security concerns are paramount (referencing the Ashley Madison breach), especially for marginalized groups in hostile states.
  • Laws unintentionally reroute users to less-regulated, unsafe platforms.

“What you're doing effectively is encouraging people to go to those other sites where the content is not safe or...hasn't been moderated.” — Alexzandra (42:36)

• Media and Political “Spin”:

  • State officials frame Pornhub as “admitting guilt” or “running away” by blocking rather than complying.
  • Lawmakers rarely offer workable, privacy-preserving alternatives.

• Alternative Solutions: Device-Level Age Verification (45:00–50:05):

  • Cites the International Centre for Missing & Exploited Children’s “Digital Age Assurance Act” as a promising template.
  • Key concept: users verify age only once, at the device/OS level; device acts as a key to unlock all age-restricted sites.
  • Suggests parental controls and device settings as underused solutions.

“If we're having the conversation, if we're going to do [age verification], then I think we should do it right. And this I think is the way to go.” — Alexzandra (49:55)

The Broader Context: Sex Education, Borders, and Resilience (50:25–54:16)

• Failures in Sex Education:
  • Both host and guest reflect on inadequate sex ed in their private schools, and observe that policy is regressing, with educators increasingly restricted in the US.

“The state of like sex education is already so trash, at least in the States. I don't know. Did you get any like comprehensive sex education when you were a kid...?” — Host (51:25)

• Surveillance, Borders, & Internet Fragmentation:
  • Increasingly literal geographic borders on the Internet (state-by-state blocks).
  • Laws risk reinforcing a dangerous cycle of “surveillance and repression.”

Looking Ahead: Community, Industry, and the Future (54:16–55:46)

• Industry Resilience:
  • Alexzandra expresses optimism and pride in the adult industry’s creativity, adaptability, and communal support.
  • Mentions upcoming Pornhub Awards, fashion collaborations, and a move into the beauty industry.

“One of the things that I do love most about being part of this community is it's a tremendously resilient community. It's a lot of creative people that continuously find...solutions to the various challenges and different bullshit, quite frankly, that gets thrown at us.” — Alexzandra (54:23)

Notable Quotes & Moments

• On Industry Transparency:
  “When we're not visible, when we're not accessible, then other voices or other theories or other people are very happy to occupy that space and tell stories...that are not necessarily true about us as a company.” — Alexzandra (14:40)

• On Search Trends as Cultural Reflection:
  “Much in the same way that, you know, when a new Batman movie comes out, we see searches go up for those types of characters.” — Alexzandra (24:20)

• On Device-Based Age Verification:
  “You would age verify once. That would be part of your user settings in the OS...and then that way your device kind of acts as this key to unlock all of these different platforms.” — Alexzandra (46:30)

Timestamps — Key Segments

• 02:30 – Alexzandra’s educational background and pathway to Pornhub
• 07:07 – Compliance, content moderation, and creator friction
• 10:38 – Going public, stigma, and industry advocacy
• 17:25 – Year in Review: trending searches and societal parallels
• 24:20 – Deeper analysis on the “trad wife” trend
• 35:45 – The role of Pornhub as a funnel and platform for creators
• 36:32 – Age verification laws: mechanics and fallout
• 39:10 – Privacy risks and circumvention
• 45:00 – Alternative legislative solutions (device-level checks)
• 51:25 – State of sex education and the youth knowledge gap
• 54:16 – The industry’s resilience and what’s ahead

Further Listening

• Terms of Service Podcast — Alexzandra’s own show, focusing on sex work, censorship, and platform policy

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