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Ben Ferguson
It is Ryan here and I have.
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Ted Cruz
A question for you. What do you do when you win? Like are you a fist pumper?
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Ben Ferguson
A woohooer? A hand clapper? A high fiver?
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Ted Cruz
Welcome it is Verdict with Senator Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson with you and Senator it is a big day at the White House because it is the hundredth day of the Trump administration, and they were celebrating some very big successes at the White House today.
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Ben Ferguson
Well, we are 100 days in, and I can say with no hesitation, there has never been a first hundred days of a president in the history of the United States of America like the first hundred days of Donald J. Trump. He has hit the ground running. It has been extraordinary. I still have great fun turning to my Democrat colleagues and just deadpanning to them, well, three years, nine months to go, and they just start twitching. They, like, genuinely, they can't handle it. He had a great rally in Michigan today. Going through the victories that we have seen. And listen, just the energy, the vigor. They are moving on every front simultaneously. They are flooding the zone. I don't know all of the metaphors to use, but it is. It is shock and awe all at once, and it's beautiful. I literally wake up every day, I grab my phone, and I'm like, what did they do today? It's fantastic. I want to say before we dive into that, though, I do want to recognize that it is also a sad day. It's a sad day that the news just broke a few hours ago that David Horowitz passed away. David Horowitz was an extraordinary conservative leader. He's someone I got to know early in my career. David had been a Marxist. He was a leftist. He was an open and radical Marxist. And he saw the light and he understood the evil of the radical left. David was unapologetic to call out and to call out the evil, the mendacity, the duplicity, and to speak the truth. And he lived till 86. He died after a long battle with cancer. And David is someone who had an early impact in terms of my journey as a conservative. And so I just want to say thank you to David Horowitz for the life and legacy he left. May he rest in peace. He made a really positive difference in our country.
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Ted Cruz
He really did, and was so kind. I don't know if people understand how much he tried to inspire college kids and high school kids to get involved in the process. And he also warned about the indoctrination, even wrote books about it, about the indoctrination at the college level. He sounded that ALARM, Gosh, probably 20 years ago in one of his books. And I wish more people would have realized just how close he was to what reality has become now.
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Ben Ferguson
Yeah, look. And he was doing this long before Turning Point, long before the Trump movement, long before everything he organized. In fact, A right wing gathering, which I went to a couple of times that was designed to be a counter to Renaissance Weekend. Renaissance Weekend was this lefty weekend where Democrats would go to it and big rich lefties would go to it and the media would go to it and they would. It was sort of a predecessor of Davos and David Horowitz organized a counter and like, if the lefties were gonna have Renaissance Weekend, he's like, screw you. He organized Dark Ages Weekend and said, we're just gonna revel in. And so I went several times to Dark Ages Weekend and it was a lot of young conservatives and libertarians and the relationships there. I went in my 20s to that and made friendships and got to know him and I admire just, just his fearless truth telling something you don't see a lot of.
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Ted Cruz
I'm waiting for. What would you name your weekend, by the way, if you were going to have one? Like, I feel like this is something we need to know from you. What would, what would you name if it was a Ted Cruz weekend?
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Ben Ferguson
I don't know. I might, right now, I might name it the Houston Rockets win the Finals Weekend. But. But I'm afraid that. I'm afraid that weekend is not a 2025 weekend.
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Ted Cruz
It's not on the bingo card this year. Well played though, sir. Well played.
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Ben Ferguson
You know what? We can a row. We've done it before.
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Ted Cruz
See, that's all I got to do. I just got to get you a little feisty on this, by the way.
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Ben Ferguson
95, we came down in a hole. It's where Houston got the nickname Clutch City, because we were. We were down three games and we came back. Now I'm not sure Akim Olajuwon is playing for the Rockets right now. So it. So it may be a later year.
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Ted Cruz
Exactly. Well, we'll see. Like you said, anything's possible in sports. And I got to say to his family, to horse family, just God bless you guys. He. You want to talk about a legacy? I look at people now, when they pass, I'm like, what an incredible legacy. Like the legacy, the, the people that he touched, the people that he influenced. You know, the fact that you and so many other elected officials now were in and around him. His books taught so many people lives. I just think what an amazing legacy. Job well done. Our thoughts and prayers are with his family. All right, I want to tell you real quick about Patriot Mobile. You've heard me talk about it now. For if you've been listening to the show for years and you probably already know that They've stood in the gap for every American who believes that in faith, family, freedom and it's that these values are actually worth fighting for. Now Patriot mobile is incredible. They take about 5% of your bill every month at no cost to you and they actually give it back to organizations that stand up for first or second amendment rights, that organizations that stand up for the rights of unborn children. They also stand with our military, our veterans, our wounded warriors and our men and women in uniform that keep us safe in America. They're the real deal. So here's the question. Why haven't you switched? Well you may say I'm worried about technology. Not a problem. Switching by the way is easy. No store visits, no hassles. You keep your same number you have now, keep your same phone or upgrade to a new one. They have 100% US based team that can activate you in minutes right over the phone. And get this, Patriot mobile is one of the few carriers with access to all three major U S networks. What does that mean? Exceptional nationwide coverage. Plus they can even put a second number on a different network on the same phone. So maybe you want to have a work phone and you also want to have a, a home phone or a, a personal line. Not a problem. It can all be on one phone. They've got unlimited data plans, mobile hotspots, international roaming, Internet on the go devices and home Internet backup. So what are you waiting for? Make the switch and I'm going to give you a free month of service. Go to patriot mobile.com verdict that's patriot mobile.com verdict. Or you can call them 972 Patriot. That's 972 Patriot and use the promo code verdict. You're going to get a free month of service. So switch to patriot mobile and make a difference with every call you make, every text that you send. Patriot mobile.com verdict or 972 patriot. So in every presidency center the 100 day mark is obviously a big moment. If things are going well, you celebrate it. Things aren't going well. The media likes to remind everybody how terrible it actually is going and it's a disaster. This presence got a lot of things in the column that are major victories and at the top of that list I still think is clearly the border and just how quickly he was able to secure the border. The numbers are staggering. That's got to be something that every voter can be proud of that they voted for that.
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Ben Ferguson
Yeah, it's extraordinary. And I gotta say number one, the volume of the crisis was massive. Under Joe Biden, we had the worst illegal immigration in our nation's history. We had over 12 million illegal immigrants coming into this country. You remember my speech at the Republican National Convention this past year? The theme of the speech was every damn day. Because every damn day another American was being murdered, another woman was being raped, another child was being assaulted by a criminal illegal alien released by Joe Biden and Kamala Harris and the Democrats. And over and over again, whether you're talking about Jocelyn Nungaree or Lake and Riley or Rachel Marin, over and over again, the victims kept piling up. And the Democrats insisted there was nothing they could do to stop it. But it was, of course, a deliberate political decision by them to allow this invasion because they, they looked at every one of those, those illegals as a future Democrat voter. And, and Donald Trump came in. And to be clear on this podcast, I predicted last year, I said, listen, it's not going to take President Trump a year, it's not going to take him six months to secure the border. It is going to happen a matter of weeks or even days, because what matters is a president who is willing to enforce the law. And the most important determinant of whether you secure the border is what happened, what happens when you apprehend someone illegally, who's here illegally, and if the answer is you put them on a plane and you fly them home? Well, just about everyone who comes has a cell phone. They call home, they say, don't come, they're sending you back. If the answer is you let them go again, they have a cell phone, they call home and they say, come on up here, you get to stay. Trump came in and the numbers have dropped over 99.9%. That is a staggering victory. And it's a victory that there was a clear mandate for in this election.
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Ted Cruz
So let's talk about the moving forward. You have a lot of goals when you're, when you're the president in the first a hundred days, and then you have the longer term things, it's pretty clear that some of these things are gonna take longer than a hundred days. What he did at the border is just incredible. As you, as you mentioned, the level of the problem is so massive. And look, that's still gonna be a major issue moving forward. We've got a lot of people to deport. A lot of criminals are still out there that we're rounding up. We saw some amazing numbers over the weekend around the country with big, big operations to grab criminals, a lot of them, Ms. 13, gang members, et cetera. But Then you also look at the other issues and that includes the economy, that includes tariffs. I mean, there's still a lot to get done.
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Ben Ferguson
Yeah, but let's not put words in President Trump's mouth. Let's listen to a montage from the rally that he held in Michigan tonight, celebrating the first hundred days here. Give a listen.
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Donald Trump
We're here tonight in the heartland of our nation to celebrate the Most successful first 100 days of any adventure administration in the history of our country. And week by week, we're ending illegal immigration, we're taking back our jobs and protecting our great American auto workers and all of our workers, frankly. We're ending the inflation nightmare, the worst that we've had probably in the history of our country, getting woke lunacy and transgender insanity the hell out of our government. We're stopping the indoctrination of our children, slashing billions and billions of dollars of waste, fraud and abuse. And above all, we're saving the American dream. We're making America great again. And it's happening fast too. What the world has witnessed in the past 14 weeks is a revolution of common sense.
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Audience Member
That's all it is really.
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Donald Trump
We're conservative, you're conservative, you're liberal, whatever the hell. You know what it's all about. It's about common sense. When you think about it, we're for common sense. We've set all time records for the lowest number of illegal border crossings ever recorded. Think of that. Ever recorded. I'm proud to be the President for the workers and not the outsourcers. A president who stands up for Main street, not Wall Street. Our golden age has only just begun. We are one people, one family, and one glorious nation under God. We will never give in. We will never give up. We will never back down. We will never, ever surrender. We will fight, fight, fight. And we will win, win, win.
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Ted Cruz
I mean, I gotta say, he is in his element when he does these types of events. This is what got him to the President twice.
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Ben Ferguson
There has never been a phenomenon like Donald Trump at a rally in the history of politics. And there never will be again. Maybe the closest we've seen would be Huey Long. Huey Long was before you and me. But, but, but Huey Long could move a crowd in a way that, that was extraordinary at a different era. But we're not going to see any politicians in the Future turning out 20, 30,000 people to rallies. We're not gonna see. Donald Trump is one of a kind. And there was one clip in particular that I really liked where he underlined the Stakes of this election. And listen, I don't know about you, Ben, but I really do feel like this election, that the fate of the country was hanging in the balance. That if we had lost, we had a real risk of not just losing an election, yes, that's bad. But of losing the country, of being in a place where you can never come back. And that was frightening. Here's how President Trump put it about the stakes. If the radical left had won in 2024. Give a listen.
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Donald Trump
If we had not won the 2024 election. Oh, does that sound good? Right?
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Audience Member
We won the 24.
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Donald Trump
All that work. The radical left Democrats would right now be importing the next 10 million invaders and giving amnesty to 30 or 40 million illegals, many of them criminals, many of them, frankly, murderers and people of crime at the absolute highest level. Real, real bad people. It would only be a matter of years or months until America itself became a failed third world nation.
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Ted Cruz
This is why he won. This is exactly why he won. And why some of you said, we can't take another four years of Joe Biden in the Democratic Party.
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Ben Ferguson
So, look, there was not a word of hyperbole to that. And in fact, if anything, he understated it. So he said, if the radical left Democrats had won, they would right now be importing the next 10 million invaders. To be honest, it'd be more than 10 million. We saw 12 million in four years under Joe Biden. If Kamala Harris had been there, it would be even more. And giving amnesty to 30 or 40 million illegals, that's their objective. It's why, I mean, people ask me all the time, you know, I love in that montage where he says, this is common sense. You know, there were times, you and I are both conservatives, we're proud to be conservatives, but you don't actually have to be a conservative to reject the agenda of the radical left. Like crazy. Open borders. Let's say it let in 12 million illegals. Let's let in gang members, let's let in murderers, let's let in rapists, let's let in child molesters. That is an extreme agenda. You know, the idea that let's attack American energy and drive up energy costs. That's an extreme agenda. The idea that let's defund the police and put in place George Soros prosecutors, who let murderers and rapists go. That is an extreme agenda. The idea that you go into schools and you indoctrinate kids with radical transgender agenda, including sterilization and sex change surgeries for young children. Joe Biden and Kamala Harris embraced sex change surgeries, castrating little boys, sterilizing little girls. That's an extreme agenda. You know, if you embrace boys competing against girls in sport, men competing against women in sports, two guys in the Olympics beating the hell out of women in so called women's boxing, all of that is extreme. And it's set up for, really a return to common sense. And people ask me, well, why would the Democrats embrace this open border agenda? And it was about political power that, okay, so we have to let in a bunch of gang members. They, I guess, assume it's not going to be me that's murdered, it's not going to be me that is raped or abused or violently assaulted. And so if people have to die, Democrats, they don't say the names of the victims, they don't say the names of the murder victims, the rape victims, they don't say the names of the children violently assaulted. And they just, they wanted votes. And here's something else that President Trump said at the rally where he actually reprised my favorite line from his State of the Union address this year, where he talked about how Joe Biden had said just one year earlier that the only way to secure the border is if Congress passed new legislation. Give a listen to what President Trump said.
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Donald Trump
For years, Joe Biden and the media told us that stopping the flood of illegal immigration was absolutely impossible. He said it was impossible. He didn't know what the hell anybody was talking about. He said it was impossible that the President had no power to stop what was needed in the form of legislation. He needed legislation. He had no power to get it. But it turned out that all we needed was a new president.
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Ted Cruz
He's right. All we need was a new president. They said that wouldn't even get it done. Well, guess what? Not only did he get it done, but even the mainstream media now, Senator, is forced to report on just how big of a victory this is for Trump at the border. ABC News, they put it this way in their own interview with the President.
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Audience Member
Here in the Oval office. It's special, 100 days into your second term. So what's the one thing, just one thing that you think is the most significant thing you've done so far in these hundred days. Well, I think maybe the border is the most significant because our country was really going bad. They were allowing people to come in from prisons, as you know, and you've heard me say it, but you've heard a lot of people say it. Prisons, mental institutions, gang members, murderers. We had many murders 11,888. They think some murdered more than one person. So you had murderers coming in. You had everybody coming in, and not just South America, from all over the world. They were emptying their prisons into our country. And now it's totally closed down. And you've seen just Yesterday, they announced 99.9%. Nobody thought that could happen. Then it happened quickly, very quickly. And I think that's very significant. But we're doing other things that are very significant. Results will take a little bit longer because it's one of those, you know, it's complicated. It's many years of trading, abuse. We've been abused by other countries for years and years. They laughed at us. They thought we were stupid people. And we're fixing it. And I think that's going to be very, very important. But you have a lot of ground to cover. Yeah, I would really say that the border is so important, you know, just. And we'll get there. Immigration, huge. And we're going to get there. But I want to start.
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Ted Cruz
You hear him say the southern border is totally closed down. 99.9%. I'll be honest with you. I don't even think Americans that voted for Donald Trump, that believed in him, thought he could get this done this quick with those types of numbers.
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Ben Ferguson
The numbers are staggering. He said nobody believed we could get there. I actually think that's wrong. I think Donald Trump believed he could get there. He knew he could get there. And I'll tell you, you and I, we both predicted it, that we would see the numbers absolutely plummet. Although it's a fair point, we said absolutely plummet. I don't think I said 99.9%. I might have thought it'd be 90% or 95%. But 99.9 is, to be honest, Trump might even be surprised. It's that high. It's staggering. And it's an example of a commander in chief who's actually following law. You know, I gotta say, that ABC interview was really striking. There's a great exchange where the ABC reporter comes after him and Trump just body slams him. Here, give a listen.
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Audience Member
Do you think the reputation of the United States has gone down under your presidency? No, I think it's gone way up. And I think we're a respected country again. We were laughed at all over the world. We had a president that couldn't walk up a flight of stairs, couldn't walk down a flight of stairs, couldn't walk across the stage without falling. We had a president that was grossly. Incompetent. You knew it, I knew it, and everybody knew it, but you guys didn't want to write it because you're fake news. All right, thank you. By the way, ABC is one of the worst, I have to be honest. Okay, thank you.
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Ted Cruz
I'm sorry. Like, that's just amazing. He's looking at the main guy. He's, like, roasting them to their faces. He's like, by the way, abc. Yeah. You guys, by the way, are one of the worst. He's like, thank you. We're going to rap now.
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Ben Ferguson
He's like, thank you, thank you. And you actually have to watch it. Watching the. And I will say, one of the things Trump doesn't get nearly enough credit for is how damn funny he is where he's like, look, it's one thing if he could just say, look, Joe Biden was incompetent, but he's like, he couldn't walk up the stairs. He couldn't walk down the stairs. He fall like, he couldn't walk in the room. Like, it's just. It is funny, but it's true. And he's right. He's like, you knew it, I knew it, everyone knew it, and yet you were lying about it. And nobody in the media. Have you seen a single mea culpa from anyone in the media saying, we knew Joe Biden was mentally incompetent and we deliberately lied to the American people about it. Nobody's done that.
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Ted Cruz
No. No one has at all. One other thing I do have to say about all of this 100 days is the speed at which this administration is working and how well this team is working in the White House is really impressive. You and I have been over there with Doge when we were interviewing Elon Musk. I've been back last week as well to the White House. This team around him is just incredible compared to what he had in 2016. And I think that's part of the reason why he's getting so much done. Would you agree with that?
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Ben Ferguson
Fully agree. I think the Cabinet is much stronger than the 2016 or the 2017 cabinet. I think in the first term, he made some appointments that, frankly, did not serve him well. He put people in place who disagreed with him, who undermined him. And I think this second term, I think he learned. I think he learned during the four years of his first term as President. I think he learned during the four years he was out of office. I think he had a lot of time to think about if and when he came back, what he would do. And I think he put in place change agents. And you know, there's another exchange in that ABC News interview that I really like where ABC News is defending illegal immigration and the open borders under the Democrats and he just utterly calls them out. Here, give a listen to that.
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Audience Member
You're talking about, you know, you're making this person sound. This is a MS.13 gang member, a tough cookie, been in lots of skirmishes.
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Donald Trump
Beat the hell out of his wife.
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Audience Member
And the wife was petrified to even talk about him. Okay. This is not an innocent, wonderful gentleman from. I'm not saying he's a good guy. It's about the rule of law. The order from the Supreme Court stands into our country illegally.
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Ted Cruz
You could, I mean, I love it. He's not going to back down. He's not afraid of the guys in the press at all.
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Ben Ferguson
And the Democrats, you want to talk about stepping into their trap? The Democrats have happily embraced. We, the Democrat party are the party of illegal immigrants. We are the party of gang members. We are, you know, our pod two days ago, if you didn't listen to it really is astonishing. There are two different Democrat judges in jail right now for obstructing justice, for blocking federal law enforcement, for arresting illegal immigrants. And one of the two, a judge from New Mexico is charged with sheltering a Trenda Aragua Venezuelan gang member in his home and destroying evidence. It's really shocking. So this gang member had a cell phone and this Democrat judge took the cell phone, smashed it with a hammer, went and threw the cell phone away in a dumpster, all in an effort to cover up the evidence of this gang member's criminality. And one of the astonishing things that the Department of Justice has told us is that cell phone that the Democrat judge destroyed had pictures of two people who had been decapitated. Two victims presumably of gang violence who had their heads cut off. And Ben, like what does it say that today's Democrat Party, what they're about is there for Venezuelan gang members who cut people's heads off, literally. I don't know how you could be in a more radical position than where they are right now.
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Ted Cruz
Yeah, and they're. They're defending the indefensible. And yet this is their game plan, which, as you mentioned, is totally shocking. I want to move on to another story that I hope everyone listening is going to help go viral, because it's a really important one and it's not one the media is covering at all. You actually called out a Princeton professor for some pro Iran allegiances and saying, I'm not backing down, which is awesome. You urge Princeton to take action. Explain this story for people that may not know it.
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Ben Ferguson
So Princeton has on its faculty a senior official from the radical, viciously anti American, viciously anti Israel, anti Semitic, homicidal murderous regime of Iran. And Princeton happily ensconced him with the prestige of being a Princeton academic. And so I've called on Princeton, which, by the way, is where I went to college. I was Princeton class of 92. I loved my time at Princeton. It's an extraordinary school that sadly, has gone on the wrong track. I called upon Princeton to fire this guy, to dismiss him from the faculty. Look, there are Jewish students at Princeton who legitimately feel afraid. They feel afraid that you have a vicious bigot who has openly embraced the murderous Iranian regime. Let me give some of the specifics because you might think, okay, that can't be true. That sounds like hyperbole. So let's give the specifics. Syed Hossein Mouseibian, who was an official of Iran, and he's right. Now he's named a Middle east security and nuclear policy specialist at Princeton University. What I pointed out, I said, quote, mousavian is closely linked to the Iranian regime and to the regime's campaigns of terrorism and murder. His presence at Princeton makes students feel justifiably afraid for their safety. Princeton's decision to keep employing him shows that they care less about their students and more about providing a platform for pro regime and anti American propaganda. That kind of reckless institutional ideological bias is exactly why the Trump administration is reassessing federal funding at Princeton. And if you look at Mousavian's record, so he's expressed support for Hamas, he's expressed support for Hezbollah. They are both designated terrorist organizations. And any paid tribute to Iranian General Qassam Soleimani. In 2020, he attended the funeral of Soleimani. Now, Soleimani was the leading state funder of terrorism. Soleimani is directly responsible for the murder of over 600American military personnel in the Middle East. And he was planning terrorist attacks all over the world. And President Trump rightfully took Soleimani out. By the way, I introduced a resolution in the Senate that passed the Senate with bipartisan support commending President Trump for taking General Soleimani out. Well, Mousavian went to his funeral. And not only that, but Mousavian has also declined to renounce his support for Hamas, declined to renounce his support for Hezbollah, and declined to renounce his support for Iran's fatwa, which is a religious decree to assassinate the British American writer Salman Rushdie. So this is someone who's on the Princeton faculty, who is there, by the way. You know, when you had all of the anti Semitic and anti Israel protests on college campuses at Princeton, they had a Hezbollah flag waving on the Princeton campus. It made me very sad for my alma mater. And to be clear, Hezbollah, in addition to waging war against Israel and killing countless civilians there, in 1983, Hezbollah did a bombing, murdered 241 US military members in Beirut. I will say a current Princeton student, Maximilian Mayer, who I don't know, but he is the president of the Princeton Tigers for Israel, and he's an undergraduate right now, he said, quote, I commend Senator Cruz for raising urgent concerns about Princeton's employment of Mousavian, whose career has been defined by shilling for the world's leading state sponsor of terrorism. Credible reports linking Mousavian to the oversight of Iranian dissident assassinations in Europe, along with his endorsement of the fatwa on Salman Rushdie, are deeply alarming. And you know what? This is a professor at an Ivy League University.
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Ted Cruz
Yeah. Urging Princeton to take action and do the right thing here is so important, especially since some of these universities refuse to protect students that are, especially those that are Jewish.
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Ben Ferguson
Yeah. And Mousavian responded to me on Twitter today. He put out a long tweet, I'm not going to read all of it, but he said Dear Senator ted Cruz, yesterday, April 28, in your interview with Fox News, you called for my dismissal from Princeton University and made baseless accusations. I invite you to a public debate so that while hearing responses to these claims, we can leave to the judgment of the American people. The time and place of the public debate will be entirely up to you. If you do not accept this offer, I ask you to read some of the books and articles I've written over my 15 years of academic work at Princeton University. I will tell you I responded to that and I declined his offer. I said, I try not to be in the room with people linked to Iranian terrorists who have murdered dozens of dissidents. Your books are unreadable and the only debate you should be having is with DHS agents. At the end of which you should be deported.
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Ted Cruz
As my mother in law would say, senator, you're making good choices with that rule of not being in the room with people like that. Well done, sir. Well done. Don't forget, share this podcast, especially this story so other people hear about it. It'll put pressure, I'm sure on Princeton and maybe do the right thing here. So wherever you are on social media, share it. Don't forget we do the show Monday, Wednesday, Friday. You can also grab my show on those in between days, the Ben Ferguson Podcast. Wherever you get your podcast, I'll keep you up to date on the latest breaking news and the Senator and I will see you back here on Friday morning.
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