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The 47 Morning Update with Ben Ferguson
250K Sent to Home Address of Joe Biden from China, Democrat Mayors Flip on Immigration, & GOP Debate; China and the Fentanyl Crisis Week In Review
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Ted Cruz
Welcome. It is a verdict with Ted Cruz. Weekend Review. Ben Ferguson with you. And these are the big stories that you may have missed that we talked about this week. Number one, there was a $250,000 plus bank wire transfer that came from Beijing. Where did it go? To the home address of Joe Biden in the summer of 2019 while he was running for president. Now, you could argue that maybe Hunter Biden lived there at the time. The only problem is he didn't. And we have the proof of where he was living. That is a huge story you don't want to miss. Number two, this weekend also deals with a problem with the Biden administration. A wide open border. Now, Democratic mayors are flipping on their own party, yet they're still not willing to say Joe Biden needs to secure the border. We'll dive into politics of that. And finally, a GOP debate took place this past week. And the highlights of what really mattered and what went on. We're gonna break it for you. It dealt specifically with China and the fentanyl crisis. It is the Weekend Review with Ted Cruz and it starts right now. There is new reporting out that Hunter Biden received wire transfers for a quarter of a million dollars originating in Beijing for more than more than 250 from Chinese business partners during the summer of 2019. These wires were listed that were listed had the home address of the president of the United States of America, Joe Biden, as the beneficiary address for the funds that were being transferred. This is a direct link from money from Beijing now to the president of the United States of America in the sum of at least 250,000 and counting.
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Ben Ferguson
Well, look, that's exactly right. Let me walk you through a little bit of this timeline. An individual named Jonathan Lee and Hunter Biden developed a business relationship while Joe Biden was vice president. On July 26, 2019, Hunter Biden received a $10,000 wire from Wang Jin. On October 2, 2019, Hunter Biden received a 250,000 wire from Jonathan Lee and Tan Ling. Both wires originated in Beijing and listed as the beneficiary address Joe Biden's Wilmington, Delaware home. Nearly three months later, on October 13, 2019, Hunter Biden's attorney, guy named George Misiris, stated that Hunter Biden received no money from BHR and did not disclose any payments from Jonathan Lee. I mean, it's easy to forget quarter million dollars. Everyone loses that. Beyond that, evidence shows that Joe Biden developed a familiar relationship with Jonathan Lee during his vice presidency. And prior to these payments to Hunter Biden. Devin Archer, who was a business associate of the Bidens, described how Joe Biden, not Hunter, Joe, daddy, met with Jonathan Lee in Beijing, China, had a phone call with him, and later wrote college recommendation letters for his children. So understand the guy who's wiring a quarter million dollars to Hunter Biden to Joe Biden's home address. Joe Biden wrote college recommendation letters for his kids. And in fact, in December 2013, during a Vice presidential trip to Beijing, reports indicates that, quote, Hunter, shortly after arriving In Beijing on December 4, help arranged for Lee to shake hands with his father in the lobby of the American delegation's hotel. And mind you, all of this is happening, this wire is happening simultaneously to Joe Biden announcing his campaign for President of the United States. But nevertheless, on October 22, 2020, here's what Joe Biden said, quote, my son has not made money in terms of thing about. What are you talking about? China. The only guy who made money in China is Trump. So what he said, his son has not made money from China. It was a flat out lie. Not only had he made money, he'd made a quarter million dollars from a guy Joe Biden had met, from a guy who Joe Biden had written recommendation letters for his kids. And that quarter million dollars was wired to Joe Biden's home address.
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Ted Cruz
I still am taken aback. And rarely does this happen, Senator, at just the, the. And I don't think it's incompetent. It's just the brazenness of the crimes that were committed by the Bidens. They didn't get. And this is 2019. This is not that long ago.
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Ben Ferguson
He's running for president.
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Ted Cruz
Right? He's running for President of the United States of America. And, and they're wiring these funds from Beijing to the home address of the President of the United States and now President, United States of America while he's trying to become the President of America. It's almost like they're like, hey, get the money in here quick. Move it through quickly. We got to get this, we got to get this money in here fast before he becomes the president. And so send it on. Where do you want me to send. We're not even going to funnel the money this time. We're not even going to put it in the LLC and move the bank accounts around. Just send it directly the home address of the President.
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Ben Ferguson
All right? And this is an example where the corporate media will be utterly compliant. So the only one who will even bother to ask a question of Joe Biden at a Press conference or the OR OR of Karine Jean Pierre will be fox because the rest of the corporate media will roll over and be compliant. But here's A basic question, Mr. President. Did you ever meet Jonathan Lee's kids? How about that? Let's start with that. You wrote recommendation letters for him. Do you ever meet him? You know anything about him? And if the answer is no, well, why the hell did you write recommendations letters for them? What did Jonathan Lee do to get you, you were the Vice President of the United States to write a recommendation letter for his kids if you never met the kids? I don't know if he met him, but I would be shocked if he did if you never met the kids. So you're willing to write a recommendation letter for someone you'd never met? Presumably you owe something to Daddy if you're writing a recommendation letter to the kids. So the question is, what do you owe? What did Daddy do? And does it have anything to do with the fact that Daddy sent a quarter million dollars, wired it to your son at your home address while you were running for President of the United States? Remember the Democrat talking point and the corporate media talking point is, yeah, Hunter's corrupt. He. Let's throw him overboard. We've given up on Hunter, but Joe had nothing to do with it. Well, you know what? Hunter didn't write recommendations letters for the kids of Jonathan Lee. Joe did. So what did Joe get in exchange for a recommendation letter? By the way, you and I are both parents. Do either of us have recommendation letters from the Vice President of the United States for our kids?
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Ted Cruz
No.
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Ben Ferguson
Like, that's pretty damn serious. And it's remarkable. The media will not even ask these questions. They do not care.
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Ted Cruz
Well, it's not just that. You. You, I'm sure, get asked ten hundred times more than I do for recommendations for different things. And the more that you build something, the more cautious and careful you are because you don't want to give your name to somebody that could come back to haunt you one day when a press was like, hey, Senator Cruz, did you actually write a letter of recommendation for someone that you didn't know and now they've been arrested for drugs or for this crime or that or embezzlement. You.
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Ben Ferguson
You.
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Ted Cruz
You protect your good name. Unless you're Joe Biden, where it seems to be that you can just buy a letter of recommendation from the Vice President if the. If the dollar amount is enough to your family.
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Ben Ferguson
So, look, I'm 52 years old. I've been in the Senate 11 years. My guess is maybe I've written in the whole course of my life. Let's say 100 recommendation letters. That's probably high. But let me. I'm going to overestimate it. Those hundred have been almost exclusively people who are either good personal friends of mine or people who've worked for me. So someone was a staff assistant. If someone was an employee in the office and they worked and they did a good job, I'll draft a letter of recommendation. And it'll vary if I know them well. Some letters of recommendation, I lean in closely because if I know them well and I work with them, I'll say something nicely about them. If they were a good kid and they worked in the office and they'll do good work, I'll write a more generic letter. And I'll often have staff draft it and try to reflect, you know. You know, young Ben did a nice job on a memo on national security, and he pointed out maybe we should not have Iranian agents working for the federal government. And. And I agreed with that. That was nicely done.
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Ted Cruz
Yeah.
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Ben Ferguson
Mind you, that means young Ben couldn't get hired in the Biden administration, but in a sane world, young Ben had some wisdom that was impressive. And. And so you should hire him at Ole Miss because he also has a wicked serve and knows how to play tennis. Like, that's a letter I might write, but I can tell you right now, I have never written a letter of recommendation for a Chinese national. I sure as hell haven't written a letter of recommendation for the children of a Chinese national I've never met. And I'm sure as hell. As hell. As hell as hell have never written a letter recommendation for the children of a Chinese national who have never met the children. And the dad has given a quarter million dollars to my son and sent it to my home address. Like, holy crap.
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Ted Cruz
Yeah.
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Ben Ferguson
This is not. Like, there's sort of a realm of reasonableness. And look, sometimes you have someone who was an intern and shook your hand, and you say, young Ben is a nice young man, and it's kind of a courtesy and you don't really know. Young Ben may not be a nice young man, he may be a total jerk, but you're trying to be nice, and so you write a letter because young men seem fine. This is qualitatively different. I don't know anyone in politics who's ever done this. Like, what Joe Biden is doing. Like. Like people listening might think, oh, I don't know, the political world, this is commonplace. No, no, it's not.
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Ted Cruz
No, it's not.
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Ben Ferguson
People don't do this like a quarter million dollars. You don't get sent to you. You don't get sent to you from Chinese nationals. You don't get sent to you from Chinese nationals while you're running for president. You get don't get sent to you from Chinese nationals in exchange for who the hell knows what. I mean, this is, and it's worth underscoring, this is not Hunter. This is Joe. Joe. Joe. This money was wired to Joe's home address.
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Ted Cruz
Now, if you want to hear the rest of this conversation, you can go back and listen to the full podcast from earlier this week. Now on to story number two. There's a civil war in the Democratic Party right now over the immigration issue. We're seeing, you know, Mayor Adams come out, the governor of New York come out, and it's hard to just overlook what's happening at the border. There was an interesting FOX report that I think put it in perspective for people. And I wanted to make sure we played it in the video pod. And many people that are listening to this right now, they're listening on audio only. You can go watch the video that we're about to do on YouTube. All right. Because we're doing this one video and audio. Go look at it. Because this is something that should go viral and people should see.
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Ben Ferguson
Yep.
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Ted Cruz
Take a look at this.
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Fox News Reporter
I can tell you that early this morning in Eagle Pass, we witnessed one of the largest mass illegal crossings we have ever seen in the last two and a half years of covering our southern border. We'll get right to this video. Take a look at this stunning footage. Border Patrol sources telling us just after midnight, about 2,500 migrants crossed illegally into Eagle Pass. You can see this lengthy line of them stretching from shore to shore in the river. This video perspective coming from the Mexican side of the river. And Piedras Negras, one of our contacts over there, shooting this video as they essentially bum rushed Eagle Pass last night.
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Ted Cruz
You saw that. And there was another video also went viral. And that was a train coming towards America filled with people. And it's like the cartels have figured out, hey, they're not going to stop us. In fact, the more that we send, the more likely it is to be successful. We can just bum rush the border and this administration will not stop us.
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Ben Ferguson
Yeah. Let's put these numbers in context. So as we've discussed on the podcast before, Mayor Adams in New York has said that New York City is in a Crisis. They've had 110,000 illegal immigrants. He says that 110,000 illegal immigrants is destroying New York City. Now I want to focus on Eagle Pass, where if you watch that video, you just saw the people crossing. Eagle Pass is a small town on the southern border on the Rio Grande River. It has a population of about 28,000 people. So it's a little town. On one single day last week, more than 4,000 illegal immigrants came into Eagle Pass on one day. Now, 4,000 people in a town of 28,000 people is about 14% of the population. About 14% of the population of the city came illegally into Eagle Pass on one day. What would that be in New York City? New York City has a population of about 9 million people. If 14% of New York City came into New York on one day, that would be 1,260,000 people invading New York on a single day. Mayor Adams says 110,000 people over two and a half years is a crisis, destroying the city. Well, how would he feel about 1,260,000 people entering the city on a single day? That's what Eagle Pass saw on one day last week. And you know what? They saw thousands more the next day and the next day and the next day and the next day. And these Democrats do not give a damn.
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Ted Cruz
Border Patrol Union put out a very interesting tweet and this is what they said as they put this out. It said from September 1st through the 20th, the Biden administration ordered the release of more than 100,000. This ordered the release of 100,000 legal border crashers. Enough to double the population of cities like Yuma, Arizona. Think about what Biden is doing to this country with his out of control border policies. How many millions more? That's not like exaggeration. When, when they say Border Patrol Union saying how many millions more? That's a very accurate statement because there are millions.
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Ben Ferguson
Look, they're at seven and a half million. And Joe Biden and Kamala Harris and Chuck Schumer and Alejandro Mayorkas and every Senate Democrat and just about every Congressional Democrat, they want seven and a half million to go to 10 million, to go to 12 million, to go to 15 million. They want as many as possible. And by the way, if you don't believe me that they want as many as possible, take a look at the governor of New York, Governor hochul, back in 2021, so just two years ago, where she is explicitly inviting as many as possible to come to New York. Take a look.
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Nikki Haley
So our message to the world is send Us, your people. Send us those who need the cloak of comfort that we can demonstrate as New Yorkers. Big hearts and open arms. And we'll provide a safe haven, particularly for these Afghan refugees who are so proud that are here. We have already 7,500 Afghans living here already, and we expect to have another 1800 more. And we send a message from day one, we'll take as many as you want and have us have come to New York State because it's a huge point of pride for us and we'll support them to build a whole new life.
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Ted Cruz
Open arms and big hearts in 2021.
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Ben Ferguson
And she also said, will take as many as you want to have come to New York. Please come. So that is the approved talking point of left wingers. Now, Fast forward to 2023. Same governor, here's what she says. This year it certainly will, because about.
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Nikki Haley
41% of the people in our shelters today are from Venezuela. They are literally from around the world. West Africa, south and Central America. They're coming from all over. But we have to let the word out that when you come to New York, we're not going to have more hotel rooms. We don't have capacity. So we have to also message properly that we're at our limit. If you're going to leave your country, go somewhere else. But the smarter thing is to apply for asylum before you leave your country, and then you'll have a different experience when you arrive.
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Ted Cruz
If you're going to leave your country, Senator, go somewhere else.
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Ben Ferguson
Now, does that mean we're at our limit? We're at our limit.
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Ted Cruz
We have no more hotel rooms for you.
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Ben Ferguson
And by the way, look at the numbers. So in 2021, she was saying we have 7500 and we expect another 1800 more. Okay, so if they're talking 7, 8, 9,000, we're good. We're good. 110,000. Oh, crap. We're at our limit. We said 1800. We didn't say 110,000. Well, what do you think about seven and a half million? The utter hypocrisy. And mind you, you know what name she didn't say Joe Biden. Yeah, she didn't say Kamala Harris. She didn't say Chuck Schumer. If New York is at its limit, doesn't New York state have two U.S. senators?
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Ted Cruz
Yeah.
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Ben Ferguson
Isn't one of them the Senate Majority Leader, Charles Schumer, who could do something on this, like actually do something?
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Ted Cruz
Legislation or introduce legislation?
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Ben Ferguson
And not only does he not introduce legislation, he votes against Anything to secure the border. He demonizes any effort to secure the border. He embraces the open borders that are destroying New York City. And even the Democrats who are calling it out, they don't dare call out their fellow Democrats. Instead, they blame as I love, you know, Mayor Adams, who said some madman in Texas, Greg Abbott. Yeah, I'm still offended that he wasn't talking about me. But the hypocrisy is massive because New York's Democrat governor is not saying, stop, secure the border, stop the invasion. She's saying, please don't send him to New York. Send them to red states, make other people deal with them so I can continue to Virtue Signal. By the way, did you notice also in that press interview it was a little Stepford Wives that both she and the woman interviewing her wearing the exact same white suit? Yeah, it was just kind of a little freaky looking. I'm not sure what was going on there.
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Ted Cruz
I love, everybody asked me about, you really believe there's bias in the media. And I'm like, yes, I really do. Like, I love when I'm traveling, you get it too. All the time people come up and they kind of want to antagonize, like there's not biased media. If you were a decent person in the media, when she said go somewhere else, any journalist, the initial response would have been, well, Governor, where else? What is this somewhere else? Is that another state? Are you telling me to go to another country? There was no follow up there on CNN at all.
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Ben Ferguson
No, no, no. Because there's no response to that. Go somewhere else. What they mean. And actually the Biden White House said that go to Texas, send them all to Texas because they hate Texas and they figure if they invade Texas with enough people, they'll flip it blue. And you know what? If, if, if the cities are bankrupted and if people die and if children are assaulted and if they're drug overdoses, all of that is an acceptable price for their partisan political objective.
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Ted Cruz
As before, if you want to hear the rest of this conversation on this topic, you can go back and download the podcast from earlier this week to hear the entire thing. I want to get back to the big story number three of the week you may have missed. Senator. I also want to talk about China and fentanyl for a moment. You've talked a lot about fentanyl and the issue at the border. This did seem to be something that Republicans agreed on, that we have a big problem. The issue is how do you fight back? Nikki Haley said it's time to go to war economically with China, as she described it, until they stopped sending all the fentanyl into this country that's killing Americans. She described as they're at war with us. They're taking her. They're stealing our intellectual property. They're stealing everything they get their hands on from us. They're setting up spy bases in Cuba. They've done countless things that compromise this country. Spy balloons over this country as well. And this president clearly seems to be compromised and cannot stand up to China. I think we can all agree on that. But there did seem to be a sense on stage that, hey, it's time to go on offense and to stop letting China run all over us.
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Ben Ferguson
Well, look, you know, it's interesting. You just said a minute ago in your question, you said this President Joe Biden is compromised on China. It was interesting. There was not a word said tonight about Biden's corruption, about the.
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Ted Cruz
Which was shocking.
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Ben Ferguson
And there was very little said about Biden's record. There was very little said. What I found curious, and it's why I think most of the candidates did not have a great night tonight. There was very little said about why they were the best candidate to beat Donald Trump and in the primary. That's the only question is who can win the primary. And there was very little said about why they were the best candidate to beat Joe Biden. And at the end of the day, that's what Republican primary voters are looking for. And it was odd. When it came to Trump, most of the candidates seemed to forget that he existed. And when it came to Joe Biden, by and large, most of the candidates forgot he existed. And you're trying to prosecute a case. You're trying to make the case that I'm the guy or I'm the gal to take us to victory. And on China, look, there was some rhetoric. China's bad, China's bad, China's bad. But what we didn't hear from anybody was a systematic, comprehensive plan to how do we beat China. And I believe I've talked about this a lot, that we need the sort of systematic plan that Reagan had to win the Cold War, a plan that takes on, that combats China's lies, its murder, its torture, its genocide, its espionage, its theft, its propaganda that goes after China. And there was very little said about how specifically we do that. There was some general rhetoric, China bad, but not a whole lot of substance.
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Ted Cruz
So therefore, what I was shocked by what you just mentioned. And let's dive into this for a moment. I think it was a huge mistake to not bring up the big breaking news that you and I broke on this podcast yesterday.
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Ben Ferguson
You made a quarter million dollars sent to Joe Biden's house.
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Ted Cruz
Yeah. From Beijing. And no one mentioned it. On top of the fact that it broke after we did that show that based on the plea deal agreement that was given by David Weiss, it said in that plea agreement that during the time that payment was made, the residence for Hunter Biden was in California. That's in the plea agreement that came out as kind of like, hey, if you think that he was living in this house, that's the same residence of the President of the United States of America, you know, in Delaware, you're wrong. The plea agreement said during the time, and it also came out afterwards, Senator, that in his own book that Hunter Biden wrote, he also said in his book that he was living in California at the time that wire transfer would have come through. So there's even a bigger problem there. And no one said anything about it on stage. That was a huge mistake, I think, for all of them.
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Ben Ferguson
Well, if you think about any moment, and this was a long debate, this was a two hour debate. And by the way, I gotta say, there's something weird about the debate at the Reagan library. So in 2016, we had a debate at the Reagan Library right on the stage where they were. And the 2016 debate, that was the CNN debate. And it went three hours. It was the longest debate of the entire cycle. And I remember, I don't know if this was true tonight, but in 2016, the Reagan Library did not have air conditioning that was made to survive the klieg lights of a television debate. And so it was hot.
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Ted Cruz
And that many warm bodies in the room. People don't realize those rooms get hot when you have that many people in there.
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Ben Ferguson
There was a whole audience of people. There are bright lights. I remember by the third hour, we were drenched in sweat. And I was standing there. I was actually standing. Mike Huckabee was next to me. Marco Rubio was next to me. Actually, Marco, to his credit, had a handkerchief which he let both Huckabee and me use because we were both sweating like crazy. And it was. By hour three, it was unpleasant. Now, the good news is, I think there were six people in the entire world that stayed up to watch the third hour of that debate. So it didn't matter that we all looked like we were drowning in our own sweat. I couldn't tell if they had the same issue this time. But I will say in two Hours. It was striking that there was not really an effective case made. Here's how we beat Joe Biden and that matters a lot. Nor was there an effective case. You know, Dana Perino tried to get to it when she said, okay, write down on your piece of paper who you're going to vote off the island. And by the way, I will credit the candidates for all of them saying no. We're not playing that kind of BS game. That was the right response for them to say no. But even though you don't write on a card, you're not playing Jeopardy. There wasn't really anyone making the case other than DeSantis, which is why I think he won tonight. There wasn't really anyone making the case. I'm the right standard bearer to win the primary and I'm the right standard bearer to win the general and here's how and why.
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Ted Cruz
Yeah, there was also a lot of misses People said at least in response online that this debate was on Univision and they didn't feel like the candidates did a good enough job reaching out to Hispanic voters. Your reaction to that as well?
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Ben Ferguson
Look, I think they did almost nothing. I mean, to Hispanic voters. Listen, the Hispanic community, our community, is fundamentally conservative. It is culturally conservative. You look at the values that resonate in the Hispanic community.
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Ted Cruz
Family oriented, very family oriented.
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Ben Ferguson
Family, faith, patriotism, hard work, the American dream. Those are values that are fundamentally conservative. You didn't see anyone saying, you know what you want to talk about? The Hispanic community. The Hispanic community in South Texas and in California and Arizona is getting hammered by 7.6 million illegal immigrants. By the way, every candidate tonight got the number wrong. They all said 6 million. Your numbers are a million and a half off. It's up to 7.6. The candidates should get their numbers right. But they didn't talk about the misery that is being imposed on the Hispanic community by this crisis of illegal immigration. They didn't talk about Hispanic families that are getting hammered by rising inflation. They didn't talk about Hispanic families that are getting hammered by rising crime rates. They didn't talk extensively about the Democrat efforts to defund the police and George Soros prosecutors. They had some of that. Actually, their discussion of crime. There were some decent moments. But. But the point you just made, Ben, nobody connected it to the Hispanic community. No one connected it to the African American community. And that's a point that I think is important to make that I hope in subsequent debates we get people making more clearly.
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Ted Cruz
Lastly, Senator, there was another moment and it's. It's a viral moment. I understand. And you can explain this. You want a moment. Every candidate wants a moment when they're on stage and they want to have these big moments that are talked about. Nikki Haley tried to land one against Vivek. And, and this is what it sounded like.
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Nikki Haley
Every time I hear you, I feel a little bit dumber for what you say.
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Ted Cruz
I don't think that landed the way she was hoping. It didn't come across to me as I was watching it as, as this, you know, big moment. I get that what she was trying to accomplish. Was that a mistake?
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Ben Ferguson
Yeah, it was a mistake. It, it, it, that moment was harsh and it seemed too harsh. Look, look, Haley's a talented candidate and she's a talented communicator. She's one of the best communicators on that stage. She had a really good night in the first debate. This one was not nearly as good. That shot was, was mean spirited. It wasn't substantive. In a debate, I think you're almost always better disagreeing with someone on substance rather than just sort of one line ad hominem attacks. And by the way, look, you can disagree with the vague because you could say that he doesn't have the experience to be president. You could disagree with him on policy, but the guy's not dumb. He's a smart guy. So, so the claim, every time I listen to you, I feel dumber. Like, like that. That is a pretty condescending comment that, that going back to my point before in a debate, you want truth and authenticity. You want the words coming out of your mouth for people to say, yeah, yeah, that's right, yeah, I agree with that. And I don't think very many people agreed with that. And so it diminished her more than it diminished Vivek. Now I do think the other candidates on that stage are pretty chippy towards Vivek because he was pretty condescending and nasty to them in debate number one and he made him shine. But there's some grudges that were playing out tonight. I'll also point out that there were moments when Nikki Haley and Tim Scott were going at each other and they were just yelling at each other back and forth and back and forth. And it was kind of a South Carolina pissing fight. And my take on it, that didn't really help either one of them. It was too parochial. I don't know that a whole lot of people care about the internecine fights in South Carolina. And I think the effect of it is that both of them seem to be taking their eye off the ball that the objective is first to win the primary and then to beat Joe Biden in the general. And I think that back and forth bickering didn't help either one of them in that respect.
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Ted Cruz
As always, thank you for listening to Verdict with Senator Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson with you. Don't forget to download my podcast and you can listen to my podcast every other day you're not listening to Verdict or each day when you listen to Verdict afterwards. I'd love to have you as a listener to again the Ben Ferguson Podcast. And we will see you back here on Monday morning.