ActBlue CEO Refuses to Answer Questions on Foreign Funds

Summary

The 47 Morning Update with Ben Ferguson

Episode: ActBlue CEO Refuses to Answer Questions on Foreign Funds

Date: June 12, 2026
Host: Ben Ferguson
Network: Premiere Networks

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Episode Overview

In this episode, Ben Ferguson spotlights two explosive stories highlighting alleged corruption and controversy within prominent left-wing organizations:

1. The refusal of ActBlue's CEO to answer congressional questions regarding possible illegal foreign donations.
2. Grilling of the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) CEO about Justice Department allegations of funneling donor money to hate groups.

Ferguson, joined by political analysts, gives listeners a behind-the-scenes look at congressional hearings, bringing audio clips of the testimony and direct commentary on the gravity and implications of what transpired.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. ActBlue CEO Pleads the Fifth – Foreign Donations Scandal

(Main segment begins at 05:54)

• ActBlue as the ‘muscle’ of the Democratic Party:
  Ferguson describes ActBlue as the key fundraising and advocacy vehicle for Democrats, funneling vast sums into campaigns and progressive causes.

  “This is the arm and the power, the muscle of the Democratic Party pushing agenda, ideology, campaigns, ad campaigns, advocacy campaigns for radical left things.” — Ben Ferguson (05:54)

• Congressional hearing and stonewalling:
  When called to testify before Congress, ActBlue CEO Regina Wallace-Jones repeatedly invoked the Fifth Amendment, refusing to answer questions about the origins of donations, specifically allegations of millions in foreign money influencing Democratic campaigns.

• Significance & Hypocrisy Allegations:
  Ferguson highlights what he sees as hypocrisy from Democrats, given their past fervor over alleged foreign interference in Republican campaigns.

  “Democrats were obsessed with foreign interference in our elections… And now like you ask them a question like, hey, where’s your guys funding coming from? They’re literally not saying a word.” — Ben Ferguson (06:32)

• New York Post Reporting:
  Political Analyst (unnamed) cites a New York Post article summarizing the CEO’s repeated invocation of her Fifth Amendment rights at the hearing and concerns that ActBlue may have allowed, and concealed, illegal foreign donations (08:57).

  “All three of those actions are illegal. The panel issued a subpoena compelling Wallace’s Jones testimony after Act Blue lawyers indicated she wouldn’t answer questions on a voluntary basis.” — Political Analyst (07:55)

• Audio Montage: The Fifth Amendment Plea (08:57-09:51)
  The ActBlue CEO repeats, nearly verbatim:

  “On the advice of my counsel, I respectfully decline to answer this question pursuant to my Fifth amendment rights under the Constitution.”

  Ferguson quips:

  “That goes on for another, like, two minutes. You get the point. She practiced and rehearsed and did it perfectly right. I'm not going to answer any questions. I'm not going to do anything that can incriminate myself.” — Ben Ferguson (09:51)

• Size of Donations:
  Analyst corrects, highlighting the immense volume:

  “Just in 2024, Act Blue raised over 2 billion with a B. Yeah, we’re talking a massive amount of money coming in online.” (10:13)

• Rep. Jim Jordan’s Grilling (Montage):

  • Q: “How much fraud is too much fraud?”
    • A: “On the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer…” (11:01)
  • Q: “How many Foreign Contributions Did ActBlue accept?”
    • A: “On the advice of counsel, I respectfully declined…” (11:14)
  • Q: “How much money did Actblue accept from Russia?”
    • A: “On the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline…” (11:24)
  • Q: “Why did your entire legal team quit?”
    • A: “On the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline…” (11:38-11:41)

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2. Southern Poverty Law Center Under Fire

(Segment begins at 11:53)

• Parallels with ActBlue:
  Ferguson points out that SPLC was also “having a bad week on Capitol Hill,” accused of funneling donor money to hate groups (12:05).

  Political Analyst draws a dramatic comparison:

  “The Act Blue CEO sounded like a Mafioso just pleading the Fifth… That’s the same thing typically Mafia bosses have done when they’ve been in congressional testimony.” (12:05)

• DOJ Allegations Against SPLC:
  The Justice Department alleges millions in donor funds flowed from SPLC to hate groups including the KKK and Nazis—a charge that SPLC CEO Brian Fair says will be addressed in court.

  “After the DOJ… filed fraud and conspiracy charges alleging millions of dollars in donor funds flowed to hate groups including the Ku Klux Klan, Aryan nations and National Socialist Party of America, otherwise known as the Nazis.” — Political Analyst (12:46)

• Representative Wesley Hunt’s Questions:
  Hunt highlights shocking DOJ findings, including the SPLC paying a KKK leader a monthly salary and approving reimbursement for cross burning expenses.

  “In two cases, informants who were active members of the local KKK chapter reportedly told the SPLC that they wanted out… Instead of supporting their exit, [the SPLC] encouraged them to remain involved and offered them a monthly salary of $1,200 to do so.” — Rep. Hunt (14:11)

  “This is not just ironic, sir. It’s quite outrageous.” — Rep. Hunt (14:21)

• Big Picture Denials and Deflection:
  The SPLC CEO persistently dodges direct questions, instead replying, “That’ll be addressed in court,” but denies SPLC directly funds hate groups.

• Congressman Brandon Gill’s Tattoo Exchange:
  Noteworthy exchange about a Democratic Senate candidate with a Nazi SS tattoo:

  • Gill: “Do you have an opinion on this tattoo?” (15:42)
  • Fair: “I’m not an expert on tattoos. No, I don’t.” (15:46)
  • Gill: “That’s the Nazi SS death head tattoo… Do you have any opinions on that?”
  • Fair: “If it’s what you say, if it’s a Nazi symbol, we oppose Nazis.” (16:05)

  Gill presses harder, trying to make the SPLC CEO explicitly say a Nazi tattoo should disqualify a candidate from the Senate.

  • Fair: “I wouldn’t vote for that person.” (17:05)
  • Gill: “You wouldn’t want somebody with a tattoo like that in the Senate. No, no, I wouldn’t. I wouldn’t either.” (17:31)

• Ferguson’s Take on Reluctance:
  Ferguson notes how reluctant SPLC leadership is to denounce the Nazi-linked candidate:

  “That’s how hard it is to get the Southern Poverty Law Center to denounce a guy with a Nazi tattoo that you have to spoon feed it to them.” (17:55)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On ActBlue stonewalling:

  “I'm not going to answer if in fact there's countless dollars. We're talking about millions and millions coming in from foreign adversaries that might be influencing the Democratic Party.” – Ben Ferguson (09:51)

• Regarding SPLC funding hate groups:

  “According to the US Department of Justice, the SPLC paid more than $4.1 million to informants tied to extremist groups, including the KKK from 2010 to 2023.” – Political Analyst quoting DOJ and Rep. Hunt (14:11)

• On the hypocrisy of the Democratic narrative:

  “It is fairly striking that the CEO of the Southern Poverty Law Center was forced to say about Graham Platner, the… commie Nazi oyster farmer in Maine, ‘I wouldn’t vote for him.’ … This shouldn’t be hard. And yet every single Democrat senator except John Fetterman is unwilling to say what the CEO just said there.” – Political Analyst (18:17)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 05:54: Introduction to ActBlue scandal and why it matters
• 08:57: ActBlue CEO repeatedly pleads the Fifth before Congress
• 10:52: Rep. Jim Jordan questions ActBlue CEO
• 11:53: Transition to discussion of SPLC’s congressional hearing
• 13:50: Rep. Wesley Hunt questions SPLC CEO about funding the KKK
• 15:42–17:31: Rep. Brandon Gill’s exchange with SPLC CEO regarding Nazi tattoo on Senate candidate
• 17:55: Ferguson and analyst reflect on SPLC reluctance to denounce Nazi-linked candidate

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Tone & Style

• Direct, urgent, and combative: Ferguson and his analysts do not mince words, often painting events as evidence of corruption and hypocrisy on the left.
• Sarcastic and pointed: Especially during the repeated playing of ActBlue CEO’s invocation of the Fifth (“She practiced and rehearsed and did it perfectly right”) and analysis of the SPLC CEO’s non-answers.
• Supplemented with congressional audio: The episode features actual congressional hearing exchanges to bolster analysis.

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Conclusion

Ben Ferguson’s “47 Morning Update” unpacks the dramatic congressional testimony involving both ActBlue and the Southern Poverty Law Center, emphasizing themes of evasion, alleged corruption, and hypocrisy among powerful Democratic-aligned organizations. Through clips, analysis, and relentless questioning, the episode aims to expose what Ferguson presents as shocking truths about where money is flowing and the accountability (or lack thereof) in progressive circles.

Listeners come away with a sense of high-stakes political drama on the Hill, and Ferguson’s signature insistence that mainstream media fails to cover these critical issues with the requisite scrutiny.

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Good Friday morning. Nice to have you with us in the 47 Morning Update. And we've got two big stories for you. Massive corruption in the Democratic Party with ActBlue being exposed for what they are, as well as a Southern poverty law center. And the money that is just coming in. I have it all for you.

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Story number one.

All right, so let's get back into this. Ag Blue. So there, there are many people that they've heard the name. You describe this perfectly center, this is the, the, the arm and the power, the muscle of the Democratic Party pushing agenda, ideology, campaigns, ad campaigns, advocacy campaigns for radical left things.

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[Ben Ferguson]

funding, and this is why it matters, they wouldn't answer the question of, hey, is this money coming in that you guys are raising from outside the United States of America? That would be a huge deal.

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Because if I remember correctly, Democrats were

[Ben Ferguson]

obsessed with foreign interference in our elections. They were obsessed with if Russia was involved in Donald Trump's campaign.

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Remember that?

[Ben Ferguson]

That was like something they wanted to impeach him over. And now like you asked him a question like, hey, where's your guys funding coming from? They're literally not saying a word.

[Political Analyst]

Yeah, it's not just that they wanted to impeach him over it. They did impeach him. They impeached him. That the House voted to impeach him when the Democrats had control and then the Senate acquitted President Trump. But, but look, the facts here are really concerning on their face. Here's what the New York Post reported. ActBlue CEO pleads the 5th as House probes illegal foreign donations to Dems, the CEO of the largest Democratic fundraising platform pleaded the Fifth Amendment Wednesday rather than testify before Congress about allegations that her firm illegally funneled foreign donations to federal campaigns, quote, on the advice of counsel, I respectfully declined to answer this question pursuant to my Fifth Amendment rights under the Constitution Act Blue boss Regina Wallace Jones said in response to the first question posed during the House hearing. House Administration Committee Chairman Brian Stile from Wisconsin said in his opening remarks that there was, quote, significant concern that ActBlue may have allowed foreign donations on their platform, lied to Congress, and withheld responsive documents from a congressional subpoena. All three of those actions are illegal. The panel issued a subpoena compelling Wallace's Jones testimony after Act Blue lawyers indicated she wouldn't answer questions on a voluntary basis. Stile and other Republican committee chairmen looking into ActBlue have claimed that Wallace Jones also misled Congress about the strength of fraud safeguards on its platform. Representative Joe Morell, the top Democrat on the administration committee dismissed the hearing as a partisan exercise and accused his GOP colleagues of refusing to investigate possible illegal foreign donations on their party's biggest platform. Win Read. Well, the difference is Win Read does not have multiple serious, credible allegations of foreign donors, in particular Chinese donors funneling vast amounts of cash into campaigns and I want you to listen to this exchange. This is an exchange with the Act Blue CEO and the House Committee. Give a listen.

[ActBlue CEO]

On the advice of my counsel, I respectfully decline to answer this question pursuant to my Fifth amendment rights under the Constitution. On the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer the question pursuant to my Fifth amendment rights under the Constitution. I respectfully decline to answer the question pursuant to the attorney client privilege and my fifth Amendment rights under the Constitution. On the advice of counsel, I respectfully declined to answer the question pursuant to my fifth Amendment rights under the Constitution. On the advice of counsel, I respectfully declined to answer the question pursuant to my fifth Amendment rights under the Constitution. On the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer the question pursuant to my fifth amendment rights under the Constitution.

[Ben Ferguson]

Senator, that goes on for another, like, two minutes. You get the point. She practice and rehearsed and did it perfectly right. I'm not going to answer any questions. I'm not going to do anything that can incriminate myself. I'm not going to answer if in fact there's countless dollars. We're talking about millions and millions coming in from foreign adversaries that might be influencing the Democratic Party.

[Political Analyst]

Okay, the one word you said that was inaccurate. There was millions. Just in 2024, Act Blue raised over 2 billion with a B. Yeah, we're talking a massive amount of money coming in online, typically in smaller donations, but lots and lots and lots of them. And. And there are literally three minutes of nothing but her pleading the fifth over and over and over again. We only played the first minute of that for you, but it just goes on and on and on. She wouldn't answer anything. And here I want you to listen now to. To Jim Jordan. Jim Jordan questioning her. Give a listen.

[Jim Jordan]

Your board chairman said ActBlue accepted up to 38 million contributions in 2024 that had the signs of foreign origin. How much fraud is too much fraud?

[ActBlue CEO]

On the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer the question pursuant to my fifth amendment rights under the Constitution.

[Jim Jordan]

How many Foreign Contributions Did ActBlue accept?

[ActBlue CEO]

On the advice of counsel, I respectfully declined to answer the question pursuant to my fifth amendment rights under the Constitution.

[Jim Jordan]

How much money did Actblue accept from

[ActBlue CEO]

Russia on the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer the question pursuant to my Fifth Amendment rights under the Constitution.

[Jim Jordan]

Why did your entire legal team quit

[ActBlue CEO]

in House legal team on the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer the question pursuant to my fifth Amendment rights under the Constitution.

[Ben Ferguson]

Center it wasn't just, by the way, Act Blue that was having a bad week on Capitol Hill. The Southern Poverty Law center. Well, things weren't going well for them either, and we should definitely talk about that.

[Political Analyst]

Yeah. So the Southern Poverty Law center also testified in the House of Representatives this week and, and their testimony went abysmally. The Act Blue CEO sounded like a Mafioso just pleading the Fifth over and over and over again. That's the same thing typically Mafia bosses have done when they've been in congressional testimony. And that apparently is what Democrat fundraisers do as well. Well, Southern Poverty Law center didn't plead the Fifth. But, but here, here's how, here's how the New York Post covered it. Southern Poverty Law Center CEO Grilled at Testy Hearing about DOJ Charges for Secretly Frank funding the KKK the embattled Southern Poverty Law Center CEO Brian Fair appeared Tuesday before the House Judiciary Committee for a grilling over Justice Department allegations that the ostensibly anti racism group secretly funded the extremism it claims to oppose. Fair broadly defended the center while declining to answer for specific alleged wrongdoing. After the DOJ in April filed fraud and conspiracy charges alleging millions of dollars in donor funds flowed to hate groups including the Ku Klux Klan, Aryan nations and National Socialist Party of America, otherwise known as the Nazis. Yeah, all of the allegations in the indictment will be addressed in the middle District of Alabama, Fair said repeatedly through nearly four hours of testimony. So rather then say I plead the Fifth? He just said, well, that's going to be addressed in, in, in court. Representative Wesley Hunt, a Republican from Texas and a good friend, he asked were donors informed that contributions were actually funding members of the kkk. Fair gave the same deflection, saying, that'll be addressed in court. Hunt, one of four black House Republicans, recounted allegations that Legacy civil rights group paid a KKK leader a salary and even approved an expense report for a cross burning. Let me repeat that.

[Jim Jordan]

Wow.

[Political Analyst]

The Southern Poverty Law center, according to the US Department of Justice, paid a KKK leader a salary and approved an expense report for a cross burning quote. According to a superseding indictment, the SPLC paid more than $4.1 million to informants tied to extremist groups, including the KKK from 2010 to 2023, Hunt said. In two cases, informants who were active members of the local KKK chapter reportedly told the SPLC that they wanted out because they feared for their safety. Instead of supporting their exit, the SPLC employee allegedly encouraged them to remain involved and offered them a monthly salary of $1,200 to do so. As a result, one informant rose into a leadership role within the kkk, recruited other new members, purchased KKK materials, and were even reimbursed for expenses related to cross burning events. Hunt added, quote, I can't make this up. This is not just ironic, sir. It's quite outrageous. FAIR gave a big picture denial during another members grilling saying, quote, we don't fund the KKK and we don't fund hate groups while deferring to the outcome of litigation on the specifics. Now, I want you to listen to this exchange, in particular with Congressman Brandon Gill when he's questioning the CEO of the SPLC here. Give a listen.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

Do you have an opinion on this tattoo?

[SPLC CEO]

I'm not an expert on tattoos. No, I don't.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

Okay, I can give you a little bit of background. This is a tattoo on main Democrat Senate candidate Grand Platner's chest. That's the Nazi SS death pad, death head tattoo. Do you have any opinions on that?

[SPLC CEO]

If it's what you say, if it's a Nazi symbol, we oppose Nazis.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

We oppose. I agree. We do oppose Nazis. Do you think if somebody got a Nazi tattoo on their chest that's indicative that they might be a Nazi?

[SPLC CEO]

You'd have to ask Mr. Platner why he has that symbol. I've already said that. If it is a symbol of Nazism, we oppose Nazis.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

You don't think that that's indicative, that perhaps he holds Nazi sentiments?

[SPLC CEO]

It may well be.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

It may well be. I think. Do people who aren't Nazis normally get Nazi tattoos on their chest?

[SPLC CEO]

Again, I. I assume they don't.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

You assume they don't? I would assume so too. I don't know anybody who's not a Nazi. I don't know anybody who has a Nazi tattoo on their chest but is not a Nazi. Do you. Do you think that somebody who has a Nazi tattoo on their chest should serve in the United States Senate?

[SPLC CEO]

I wouldn't vote for that person.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

I certainly wouldn't either. Do you think that this should disqualify him politically from serving in the Senate?

[SPLC CEO]

Again, I'm not sure where the line of questions is going. The splc, if you're asking me, I'm sorry, go ahead. If you're asking me if the SPLC opposes Nazis and Nazi symbols, the answer is yes.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

The SPLC has referred to this same tattoo as a racist skinhead symbol and tattoo. You can see the resemblance there. You wouldn't want somebody with a tattoo like that in the Senate. No, no, I wouldn't. I wouldn't either. I appreciate your candor there.

[Ben Ferguson]

I love that. That's how hard it is to get the Southern Poverty Law center to denounce a guy with a Nazi tattoo that you have to spoon feed it to them. Senator. And then these are the same people that were actually funding and approving expense reports for cross burning of people they were paying a salary to in the kkk. That is the point you can't make up.

[Political Analyst]

And Nazis. To be clear, it wasn't just the Klan, they were also funding Nazis. But. But look, the head of the Southern Poverty Law center is a hardcore left wing Democrat partisan. The SPLC is entirely in the tank for the Democrat party. They hate Republicans. It is fairly striking that the CEO of the Southern Poverty Law center was forced to say about Graham Platner, the. The commie Nazi oyster farmer in Maine, quote, I wouldn't vote for him. Yeah, and to follow up, should the guy with the Nazi tattoo be in the Senate? No. That tells you just how indefensible it is when even their most extreme partisans are forced to say of course not. If you got a friggin Nazi tattoo on you, you're a Nazi. And we should be not be electing Nazis to the Senate. This shouldn't be hard. And yet every single Democrat senator except John Fetterman is unwilling to say what what the CEO just said there.

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