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The 47 Morning Update with Ben Ferguson
Behind Closed Doors: Trump’s Quiet Push for Ukraine-Russia Peace
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Ben Ferguson
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Political Analyst/Guest
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Ben Ferguson
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Ben Ferguson
Hillary Clinton yesterday said that if you got this deal done and not capitulate to Putin, that she would nominate you for the Nobel Peace Prize. If President Trump were the architect of that, I'd nominate him for a Nobel Peace Prize. Well, that was very nice. I may have to start liking her again.
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You're listening to the 47 Morning Update with Ben Ferguson.
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Good Monday morning. It's nice to have you with us on the 47 Morning Update. And we've got one major story for you. Donald Trump moving towards peace, brokering a deal between Ukraine and Russia, and hosting Zelinsky. So why is the media acting like it's already a failure before the meeting even happened? Because they hate Trump more than they want peace. We break it all down for you. But first, I want to talk to you about my friends over at Patriot Mobile. You've got a lot of choices for cell phone service with new ones popping up all the time. But if you want to make a difference and you want to stop giving your money to liberal companies, well, one way you can do that is by getting rid of Liberal Mobile. You probably have right now. That is where hundreds of thousands of Americans are now coming together and have made Patriot Mobile what they are today. They've been in service now for 13 years. And right now is the best time ever to switch because it's never been easier. Now, before I tell you about that, I want you to know why switching is so important. Because every time you make a call, every time you send a text, and every time that you pay your bill, you're actually standing up for the values you believe in, your first and your second amendment rights, the rights of unborn children. And you stand with our military, our veterans, our wounded warriors, and our fallen soldier families. Because Patriot mobile takes about 5% of your bill every month at no extra cost to you. And they give it back to these organizations that fight for our values. Now, let's talk about switching. It has never been easier. You can keep your same number, keep your same phone, or upgrade. Patriot mobile's got a 100% US based customer service team and literally they can now, with technology, get you activated in minutes from the comfort of your home or your office. If you're stuck in a contract or owe money on your phones, no worries. Patriot Mobile has a contract buyout program. And this is how we win, folks, by aligning our spinning with our values. Every dollar we spend matters. Now, let me also give you a free month of service. Go to patriot mobile.com ferguson that's patriot mobile.com ferguson or you can call them 972-patriot use the promo code Ferguson and you're going to get one month free service by switching today. So again, patriot mobile.com Ferguson use the promo code Ferguson. You'll get a free month of service today. Patriot mobile.com Ferguson or 972-patriot it's the 47 Morning Update and it starts right now.
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Story number one, we've got a major.
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Story that we've got to talk about and I've got all the information you're going to need and it deals with Vladimir Putin, Ukraine, Zelensky and Donald Trump. As you know, the summit took place on August 15th in Anchorage, Alaska. And officials present, including Marco Rubio and many of the envoy on the U. S side said that there was real progress that was made. Democrats in the media, of course, using the Sunday morning shows to lie to the American people. We also now know through sources the territorial proposals have been floated. In fact, quote, a potential peace framework is emerging. Putin reportedly offered to withdraw from small areas in southern Sumy and other areas in exchange for larger concessions from Ukraine. However, the ideas remain controversial and unresolved. Notably, Russia wants Ukraine to renounce NATO membership, partially lift sanctions and acknowledge Russian sovereignty over Crimea. Ukraine firmly rejecting these conditions publicly today. But then there's where are we actually compared to the posturing in public? Well, one of the things we are learning about is security guarantees. In a notable development, Putin apparently agreed to allow the US And Europe to offer Ukraine NATO style, quote, unquote security guarantees AIKEN To Article 5 protections. That is a historic shift in Russia's posture. Now there is no agreement yet, despite Donald Trump calling the talks productive and the media saying they're a failure. This seems to be working towards a real formal agreement and both sides are acknowledging that major points will have to be discussed, but they're willing to do it. All right, I want you to hear what Marco Rubio had to say. He was on Face the Nation. Democrats saying that Donald Trump got played by Vladimir Putin. It's absurd. They weren't in the room. No, he didn't. But there's nothing to say that that's actually what happened. Now, of course, the media is running with it because that's what Democrats are saying. And why? Because they would rather score political points against Donald Trump than stop the senseless killing between Russia and Ukraine with the innocent children and women and seniors and men and women in general that are being forced to fight in this war. I want you to hear the secretary of State Rubio on Ukraine and what he says this meeting with Zelensky is going to really look like this week.
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Carol Markowitz
Ultimately, if, if Vladimir Putin is going to be offered land that he has not seized yet, but negotiates his way into, doesn't this set a dangerous precedent that the United States now accepts this concept that it is okay to seize land by force?
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Political Analyst/Guest
Well, Putin's already seized land by force, and that in and of itself is not a positive precedent. This whole war.
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Carol Markowitz
Are you demanding a withdrawal precedent?
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Political Analyst/Guest
Well, again, here's the. In order to have a deal here to end, to reach the end of this conflict, both sides are going to have to make concessions. That's just a fact. In any negotiation where Russian forces. No, no, but if, but this is not about acceptance. This is about what Ukraine can accept and what Russia can accept. They both have to accept it. Otherwise there won't be a peace deal. Okay, if there aren't concessions, if one side gets everything they want, that's called surrender. That's called the end of the war through surrender. And not what we're close to doing, anything close to it. So in order for there to be a peace deal, this is just a fact, like it, it may not, it may be distasteful, but in order for there to be an end of the war, there are things Russia wants that it cann and there are things Ukraine wants that it's not going to get. Both sides are going to have to give up something in order to get to the table in order to make this happen. That's just the way it is. And I mean, the sooner we accept that, that's the reality now, what those things are is going to be up to both sides. There's no conditions that can be imposed on Ukraine. They're going to have to accept things, but they're going to have to get things too. And so, for example, Ukraine is a sovereign country. They have a right, like every sovereign country does in the world, to have enter into security alliances with other countries to prevent an invasion in the future, to prevent threats to the national security. That's not an unreasonable request. That's something that needs to be worked on. Territories will have to be discussed. It's just a fact. And there are things that maybe Russia's holding now that they're going to have to give up. Who knows? The point is we need to create a scenario where that becomes possible. And that's why this has been so hard, because neither side up to now has been willing to give on some of these things. But we'll see if that's possible. It may not be, but we're going to try and we're going to do everything we can to try to achieve a peace.
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Ben Ferguson
Now, think about what Marco Rubio just said there. He says we're moving towards peace. Why would anyone want to root against that? Why would you want to root against President Donald Trump if he is able to get these parties to the table? Which, by the way, is exactly what he's moving towards right now, getting closer than anybody else has. And he now has at least a framework. And that is part of what Marco Rubio also said on Face the Nation, reminding the host we are moving forward whether you like it or not.
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Carol Markowitz
Asking about the security that you just mentioned there, because Italy's prime minister says that President Trump revived the idea of security guarantees inspired by NATO's Article 5 and a collective security clause that would involve the United States. How does that work? Are these US Troops that were monitors?
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Political Analyst/Guest
Well, that's what we're going to be working on. That's why. That's one of the reasons why, you know, I talked yesterday to all the national security advisers and a bunch of them from the different European countries. There are European leaders coming here tomorrow, heads of state coming tomorrow, along with President Zelensky to discuss this in more detail. I mean, the constructs of something like this needs to be built out. Concept is one thing. The reality, you know, how it's built and how it would work is another. But those are the kinds of talks that we're going to be having with them along with some of the other issues that are at play. But that is one of if you were to break this thing down, I mean, there are obviously there needs to be an agreement on territories and where the lines are going to be drawn. That's not going to be very easy. That's going to be tough. I think there has to be some discussion about security guarantees for Ukraine because they don't want this war. None of us want to see this war in the future. They're a sovereign country. They have a right to have security agreements with other countries and security alliances with other countries. And then there's the whole issue of construction. How do you rebuild the country? Well, potentially, like I said, that's what we're going to be having a conversation about. And that's what we're going to be meeting. That's why they're all coming here tomorrow. And that's why we've been talking on the phone for the last 48 hours with them. And even leading up to it throughout the week there were various meetings just to sort of build out some of these ideas. So all of these right now are ideas or concepts that require some more specificity. We'll need to work with our partners to see what that looks like. And I think that's an area where potential progress is real. But that alone won't be enough. There's a bunch of other things that have to be worked through here.
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Ben Ferguson
We're going to be working right. Notice how he's like, we have things to work through. There's no way everything could be agreed to to stop a multi year war in a three hour time span when only one of the two parties is in the room with President Trump. You think about their definition of success. It was immediate into the war, a ceasefire immediately when Donald Trump walked out of that meeting in Alaska. That was never going to happen. Everyone knows that was never going to. There are concessions that may need to be made. There are security guarantees that need to be made. And this goes back to how much the media hates Donald Trump. They would rather him fail than stop the senseless killing around the world. Now here's something else that also Senator Rubio said that's important. Listen carefully.
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Carol Markowitz
Name any concessions that Vladimir Putin made during this meeting. Has he has and have any discussions. I wouldn't name you have any concessions.
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Political Analyst/Guest
I wouldn't name them on your program. Why would I do that?
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Carol Markowitz
Where is the question?
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Political Analyst/Guest
Of course, because you can't have a peace agreement. You can't have a peace agreement unless both sides give and get. You can't have a peace agreement unless both sides make concessions. That's a fact. That's true in virtually any negotiation. If not, it's just called surrender. And neither side is going to surrender. So both sides are going to have to make concessions. So of course concessions were asked. But what utility would there be of me going on a program and tell you we wagged our finger at Putin and told him, you must do this and you must do that. It's only going to make it harder and less likely that they're going to agree to these things. So these negotiations, as much as everyone would love it to be a live pay per view event, these discussions only work best when they are conducted privately in serious negotiations in which people who have to go back and respond to constituencies, because even totalitarian governments have constituencies they have to respond to, people have to go back and defend these agreements that they make and so and figure out a way to explain them to people. So we need to create space for concessions to be made. But of course, concessions were asked.
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Ben Ferguson
Of course concessions were asked. We work and do these discussions in private. Isn't it amazing how the media, they believe they're so important that they should be in the middle of negotiations between Russia, Ukraine, the EU and the United States of America? Leave it to the liberal media to act like this while also hoping that the president fails. The good news is the meetings are continuing and it looks like President Trump is getting closer to peace certainly than anyone else has been able to do in the rest of the world.
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