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Welcome. It is verdict with Senator Ted Cruz. Ben Ferguson with you. It's really nice to have you with us as we've got a lot to discuss on today's show, including AI and the race with China.
Senator Ted Cruz
Well, we're discussing how big money tries to manipulate you and how it tries to manipulate your life. We start with the question of AI. We know there's quite a bit of foreign money that is devoted to propaganda, that is devoted to espionage of Americans and is devoted to trying to convince us to go down lines that are harmful to America. You look at the antisemitic protests on college campuses. Those were funded, I believe by Cutter, by Iran and by China. Well, a bombshell new report came out that links how a Chinese Marxist nonprofit headed by a billionaire who hates America is spending millions and millions of dollars trying to convince Americans to hate AI, to be scared of AI, to stop developing AI. Obviously, if America slows down AI here, the winner of that is Communist China. We're going to break that down in detail right now.
Ben Ferguson
Yeah, it's a really amazing story and we're going to have that for you in a moment. I also want to talk to you about how you can have a massive impact right now with protecting the lives of unborn children all over the country.
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Ben Ferguson
So, Senator, let's talk about AI and, and explain AI in general and the technology and infrastructure needed for AI. AI has become and is, is just taking over in different ways. It's changing the way you study, it's changing the way that schools are being run. It's changing the way business is being done. It's changing the way law is being done. Almost everybody I know in every sector is now depending on AI significantly as a tool. And if you are a foreign government, this is a powerful tool to then get in the minds and the hearts of people, not just in the US but around the world with propaganda. Because if you ask AI a question and then it comes back a little bit skewed, anti X, Y or Z, whatever you want it to be against, you can then change people's minds through AI. That is part of the reason why this, this race with AI, with China is so vitally important.
Senator Ted Cruz
Well, AI is changing how all of us live our lives. It is making human beings much, much more productive in their jobs. It is enabling you to car tasks in a fraction of the time they would have taken you previously. Now there's a lot of understandable and quite reasonable fear about AI, about the massive change that AI will produce. People have concerns about their jobs. Will their jobs still be there, will they still be needed? Or are they going to be replaced by an AI? Right now we've seen a lot of instances of AI making people more efficient and more productive. In some instances, companies are hiring more workers because with AI, the productivity is so great that, that it, it. They end up needing more people to, to, to handle that additional productivity. But it is still rapidly changing. It is rapidly evolving and it is unknown. And fear of the unknown is, is a very natural, reasonable response. We are also facing, and we've talked about this on the POD before, in my judgment, the single most important economic question facing the United States today is who wins the race for AI? Does America win it or does China win it? Somebody's going to win it. There is going to be an answer in five, 10 years. We will know the answer to that. Right now. America is ahead. We are ahead probably about six months. I ask tech leaders all the time. The answer varies, it varies anywhere from three months ahead to as much as a year ahead. But I'd say that the most typical answer I get from a tech leader is that we're about six months ahead. But six months is meaningful.
Ben Ferguson
What does that mean when you say we're ahead? Explain. Is that logistics, is that building sites, is that towns that are.
Senator Ted Cruz
Yes, yes, yes.
Ben Ferguson
Allowing for the AI computers, what does that exactly mean?
Senator Ted Cruz
We are developing faster chips than the Chinese have. We also have export export controls in place so they don't get our fastest chips. We're building data centers and then we are also writing programs, the various AI programs that use those chips to reason to. We're building compute and then they're doing inference, they're doing reason and learning and we're teaching these models. All of those processes are iterative and we are ahead of them, ahead of them with faster chips, with data centers, with compute and with inference. But it's not a huge lead. Now, China is well aware that it matters enormously who wins. Whoever wins that race, the result is going to be trillions and trillions of dollars of investment and millions of jobs. And so we want those jobs in America, we don't want those jobs in China, we want to have them here. But, but even more importantly, the result of that, whatever country wins, their values will suffuse AI If China wins, if the world adopts Chinese AI, it means that that AI will embrace the Chinese values of surveillance, of espionage, of propaganda, of social control, social scores. Using AI to try to control your life. We would much rather have free market values of America govern AI, things like free speech, individual choice. Now look, tech companies will still be bad actors. Tech companies have been bad actors from almost the very beginning. But I'd much rather be taking on the excesses of tech companies rather than a communist government engaged in central control. And so I think when it comes to economic questions, there is none that matters more than who wins the race to AI.
Ben Ferguson
By the way, there was an interesting example of this from, from a tech executive that I talked to a couple months back and dumb luck, we were sitting in the green room together getting ready for tv and he was talking about AI and I said, when you talk about this race, how would you describe it? He described it in a very interesting way. He said there was a race decades ago between VHS and Beta.
Senator Ted Cruz
Exactly right.
Ben Ferguson
Said there was not going to be two that coexisted. One was going to win and one was going to lose.
Senator Ted Cruz
All right, Ben, Ben, Ben, I want to interrupt you in this story. This is where I need to remind you you're getting to be an old fart too. We have a lot of people who listen to our show who are teenagers or 20 somethings, and you know what? They have no idea what a VHS or a Beta is. So for the sake of our younger listeners, could, could you tell them what a VHS and Beta is? And then please continue with your story.
Ben Ferguson
This thing that you used to get at Blockbuster, which also doesn't exist anymore, and it was how you watched a movie before you just ordered it on your TV and did it direct. Right. Remember, like those DVDs and Blu Ray. It was the generation before DVDs and it was VHS, which was kind of a longer tape. There was a Beta which was kind of short and stubby and, and there
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was a fight over which one was
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going to control the marketplace. And so what he said was, and
Senator Ted Cruz
by the way, and by the way, the reason one controls is it becomes the standard. It becomes just what everyone uses. You know, think of it like the shape of a plug, like once something is set, the standard that becomes what everyone uses. In this instance, you had people bought VHS recorders, recorders that would play video cassettes and you could record your TV. And this was a new thing in the 70s and 80s and, and the VHS tapes were bigger, the Betamax tapes were smaller. Betamax was, Sony was, was the one that came up with, with Betamax. And most of the techies said Betamax was a better technology.
Ben Ferguson
Yeah.
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In fact tv, TV channels, they did
Ben Ferguson
almost everything on Beta. They were like the lone user. And movies, like companies did everything and they recorded on Beta because it was better, higher quality. But VHS won the war and that was the standard. You, you couldn't go and run a movie in Beta and vhs at Blockbust, all vhs, they won. And he described, he said, he said, I am so worried about China as he described it being the VHS and America being Beta because once you are pushed out, you're not going to get back in. And so we better, as he described it when now, because then as you mentioned, it's not just winning, it's then the control you have after you win, which is the most powerful thing for China and propaganda.
Senator Ted Cruz
But by the way, we see this in a very real illustration and the difference between let's say Twitter or X and Tick tock, Tick tock, when it was owned and controlled by the Chinese government, its output was markedly different. TikTok was pushing propaganda, it was pushing anti American propaganda, it was pushing communist propaganda, it was pushing anti capitalist propaganda, it was pushing anti Israel propaganda and pro Palestinian propaganda. And you looked at the numbers, it was, I don't have the data right in front of me on this, but it was something like a hundred X more likely that you would get anti Israel or anti America propaganda on on TikTok than you would on another social social media platform. That's the same sort of thing except with an AI. It's someone using it to write a paper, learn about a topic and, and having China be able to control what we are learning and really what reality is, what we understand as reality is profoundly dangerous.
Ben Ferguson
Yeah, it is. So when you look at this moving forward, what is it that Americans need to understand and what do they need to be advocating for? There's also infrastructure here which has become a really intense local issue as well. Because with this technology, with this computing, there is a strain on the grid. It needs to be built differently in these areas. We need to be advocating for that and not be afraid of it as well.
Senator Ted Cruz
Well look, one thing that that folks ought to be aware and one of the great things listeners Verdict. You guys are informed and engaged citizens. You take seriously learning issues. You don't listen to a show like Verdict unless you want to know what's really going on. Now I am going to guess that our listeners, probably 60 to 70% of you, have very serious concerns about AI. Why am I guessing that? Because almost every single poll done in America shows that Americans about 60 to 70% have very serious concerns about AI. Those concerns are not irrational or many of them are not. I have concerns about A.I. that's perfectly rational. What you should be aware is that there is a concerted effort to convince you to have those concerns. And the Chinese communists are putting real money. Their objective is for that 60 to 70% to become 80 to 90% and for the concerns to drive you to want to shut down AI. That's their objective. Let me talk about this report that just was released. This is from the Free Beacon. Notorious China based American mogul is running shadowy influence campaign to undermine US AI efforts give communist China an edge in technology Arms race A Shanghai based American expatriate who works hand in glove with the Chinese Communist Party is using a network of American nonprofits to foment and amplify American opposition to artificial intelligence and the data centers that power it in a bid to propel China past the US in the technological arms race. A report from the Bitcoin Policy Institute reveals that for the past five years nonprofit organizations funded by the tech mogul Neville Roy Singham are churning out papers opposing export controls on advanced semiconductors to China. Newsletters that quote CCP officials lambasting America's approach to the technological arms race and articles characterizing US Data centers as fronts in the, quote, new cold war on China. Several lawmakers cited a report when calling on the administration to investigate, including Senate Intelligence Committee Chairman Tom Cotton, who sent a letter to Acting Attorney General Todd Blanch asking for an investigation into, quote, foreign influence efforts targeting the build out of American AI infrastructure. Quote, net. Neville Singham has ties to the Chinese Communist Party, so it's no surprise he's pushing anti American policies through fake nonprofits. Cotton told the Free Beacon the Department of justice should launch a full investigation into this attempt to undermine America's prosperity. I very much agree. DOJ should investigate this and fully do everything possible to stop this, this foreign influence operation.
Ben Ferguson
Yeah.
Senator Ted Cruz
A sprawling 2023 New York Times investigation identified Singham, who sold his technology consulting company ThoughtWorks in 2017 for $785 million, as the source of, quote, a global web of Chinese propaganda. This Singham is spending hundreds of millions of dollars using technology, trying to influence you, trying to influence you to oppose AI, to oppose data centers. By the way, we're seeing the far left. So both Bernie Sanders and AOC have introduced legislation that would ban new data centers in America. Yeah, that's where the far left is.
Ben Ferguson
What was their logic behind that? People that maybe weren't watching this because it is really shocking. I understand where they're getting bought off from it's China and Chinese influence, but what was the logic of why we should ban them in the whole country?
Senator Ted Cruz
All right, let's talk data centers for a minute, which is different people have different views on data centers. And the two main complaints that are raised about data centers are power usage and water usage. And I hear those a lot. On the power side, I have advised almost every single tech CEO, if you're building a data center, you need to operate from a rule of thumb that you are net negative power usage. What do I mean by that? If you're going to build a data center, build power production facilities so that you are generating more power than you are using. What that means is when a data center goes into a community, the effect on the people's electricity bills is not going to be that they go up, but instead, if, if the companies are doing this right, their electricity bill should go down because the data center will be adding more power to the grid rather than taking power from the grid. It's not a hundred percent that the data centers are doing this, but many, if not most of them are doing this now. They're following through on it. President Trump likewise signed an executive order called for this in his State of the Union address that addresses one of the biggest concerns. The other big concern that Ben, that people raise is water. Actually just this week was at a political gathering and a woman, a conservative, came up to me and she said, I'm really, really worried about all of the water usage from these data centers. This is hurting us. And I responded to her and I tried to respond gently, but I said, I said, look, I understand that concern and I'm certainly concerned about water, water matters in Texas. It's needed, obviously, for farmers and ag and cities and development, oil and gas. We need water. I said, you should know that virtually every data center that is being built today is built using what's called closed loop cooling. And that means you have some water and you just recirculate the same water over and over and over again, which means the data center uses almost no water. I think in today's data center, I believe it is the case that they use more water in their toilets for their employees just using the bathroom than they actually use for their cooling system. Because it's all a closed loop system.
Ben Ferguson
It used to be like my computer, I have a, I have a, a fast, fast computer. They put in the water cooling system. I don't ever have to have water to it. It just keeps cycling through over and over again.
Senator Ted Cruz
And by the way, the first generation of data centers, this was right, that the first generation, they used an open loop cooling system where they were putting fresh water into it over and over. So the early data centers were consuming a lot of water. That being said, part of the propaganda that China is pushing is going into a community and trying to convince them, oh, if there's a data center, your power is going to go through the roof and you're not going to have the water you need. And that is based on deliberate food, false information. But the thing about Chinese communists, they lie.
Ben Ferguson
Yeah.
Senator Ted Cruz
By the way, do you know who Singham's wife is?
Ben Ferguson
Who is that?
Senator Ted Cruz
Singham's wife is the head of Code Pink, the left wing protest organization.
Ben Ferguson
And that's all you need to know. The ones who wore the pink hats during, during. Yeah, during the MeToo movement and, and went after anyone they didn't like politically.
Senator Ted Cruz
They are, and they're on Capitol Hill all the time. They come, attack. His wife's name is Jody Evans and she's the head of Code Pink. And they push actively through these American nonprofits. Anti America propaganda, anti capitalist propaganda. And they're also putting hundreds of millions of dollars into trying to convince you to be afraid of AI here, I'm going to give you, give you an interesting stat. In 2023, 69% of Virginians supported construction of new data centers. Then April of this year, what do you think the number fell to?
Ben Ferguson
What was it?
Senator Ted Cruz
35%.
Ben Ferguson
And that's only because of a campaign that you can get that big of a switch. Like, I mean, that's a, that's a massive switch, which means massive propaganda coming into your mind from people that say we want to influence you.
Senator Ted Cruz
By the way, I will say Texas thankfully has done better on this front. We're having a lot of data centers built in Texas. And I keep saying, bring them all. If these idiots. If Bernie Sanders wants to shut down every data center in Vermont, knock yourself out. You people are crazy. AOC can chase them out of New York. Spanberger could chase them out of Virginia. Every blue state that says we don't want data centers, Texas will take them all. Hey, we got a ton of land. You're not going to fill up West Texas. You can keep building and building. We've got land as far as the eye can see. Power is a challenge, but there's no state in the country that understands power better than Texas. We keep building new power generation capability and with every data center coming in, we're building more power generation capability. And Texans like, look, you come in initially, you get a bunch of construction jobs to come in and build these data centers. Those are.
Ben Ferguson
Yeah, these are not. So you've been to these data centers? I've been to one. Let's explain how big they are from a job perspective as well.
Senator Ted Cruz
Look, they're massive, huge, huge warehouses that you're building that are then filled with racks and racks of computers. Computers that are running and they're being cooled, typically with closed loop water keeping them cool. They consume a lot of power. It's just kind of racks and racks of computers that are running compute and as you produce more, you get more and more computing capability. That means you need number one on construction, everyone. You need to construct a big industrial facility, to pour concrete, to put the walls up, to put in air conditioning, to put in power, to put in plumbing, to put in, to build the racks, to put install the computer. So you need construction workers, blue collar jobs. Those are, those are typically high paying jobs, good construction jobs. You then need more specialized electricians and computer techies to install the computers, to build the racks, to set them up, to connect all the cords, make the doohickey connect to the whatchamacallit like those techie. You can tell this is my expertise. Yeah. And then once it's built, the data centers have ongoing jobs. Not as many. There are more construction jobs than ongoing jobs in the data center, but there are still a significant number of ongoing jobs in the data center and to maintain the computers to keep the operation working. And you also have things, you have janitors, you have, you have security guards, you have all sorts of jobs that you need just with any large endeavor. The point is, every data center you're building, you are bringing good, high quality jobs to Texas. And so Texas is happy to have them. I just hope that the blue state politicians don't destroy their own states by becoming effectively vessels for communist propaganda.
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Ben Ferguson
move on to another big issue. We've got another activist DA that's been busted flat out lying senator. This time in Philadelphia. You can, you can say thank you to the Democratic party, to the George Soros for allowing this to happen. And this is a story that needs to be on your radar screen as well.
Senator Ted Cruz
It is. And let's, let's talk about who this is. You know, we talked about Singman and a left wing billionaire spending money to do real damage to America. This is a story about another left wing billionaire spending money to do enormous damage to America. In this case, George Soros. George Soros has spent billions of dollars. He is the single most effective political giver, I think in American history. Now effective is not a compliment. He is effective in being unbelievably harmful. There are, I believe, thousands of Americans who are dead because George Soros has spent the money so effectively. So he spent propaganda in support of open borders. And you look at all of the people who have been raped and killed by illegal immigrant violent criminals. All the people that have been subject to terror attacks from, from illegal immigrant violent criminals. But, but Soros also is, is creative in his destruction and he realized that, that our democratic society has vulnerabilities and vulnerabilities that he can target. So he doesn't just target a presidential race. That's an easy, big, sexy target. Yeah, he really pioneered targeting district attorney races. Now district attorney races used to be sleepy little races. You'd have a Democrat and a Republican, but they both were prosecutors. They both were going to lock up criminals. If you were a murderer, you'd lock up the murderer, you'd prosecute them. There didn't used to be a massive difference between the two sides. On, on DA's, you'd have a little bit different priorities from the one to the other. But, but everyone agreed violent criminals will lock them up and throw the book at him. That changed when Soros began flooding millions into DA races. Now these races didn't used to have millions of dollars in them. So this money just appeared out of nowhere. And he elected what are called Soros da's. Yeah, and Soros da's are the prosecution side of the Abolish the Police campaign. Look, Soros funded the Abolish the Police campaign too. If you want to destroy a society, I can think of few more effective ways to do it than eliminate law enforcement. Because the result is anarchy and chaos. It's more murders, more rapes, more children being abused. That is. I don't like to ascribe ill intent to someone. But Ben, I will say quite seriously, I do not know any other motivation for George Soros that makes any sense to me other than that he wants to destroy America because his actions seem perfectly calculated to destroy America.
Ben Ferguson
Yeah. If you look at the. And it's a, it's very calculated. It's prison reform, it's bail reform, it's defund the police. You do that trifecta which is saying, well, we're going to let people out of jail because we just believe jail is somehow fundamentally wrong. You then say you want to defund the police. So then you have no law enforcement. And then you have bail reform, which says, we're going to not put you in jail while we hold you for trial because you don't have a lot of money. So then you're letting rapists and murderers literally back on the street as fast as we catch them. That, that, that you combine those three, this is a framework for total anarchy in society, which is clearly what Soros wants.
Senator Ted Cruz
Yeah. Look, just ask yourself the simple basic question. Is society better if there are more murderers on the street, more murderers in your community, more murderers living in your neighborhood? Any rational person would say, no, I don't want more murderers in my community. Soros says yes, and he spends millions of dollars to elect DAs who agree with him. And so one of those Soros DA's is a guy named Larry Krasner. He is the left wing Soros DA in Philadelphia. And instead of going in with a mission of I'm gonna go lock up the bad guys, his mission is quite literally, I'm going to release as many bad guys as I can. Now, now you may be saying, come on, that can't be true. That's so extreme. All right, let me just give you the facts. So just this week, a 5:2 Democrat court. So I'm going to read, read you what judges who are Democrats said about Larry Krasner. They found that he is so quick to falsely concede error in murder cases to try to free convicted murderers, that it is tasked the Pennsylvania Attorney General with checking to make sure that the Soros DA is not lying. Now, now let me give you a little context of this, because legally, this is astonishing. I've never seen anything remotely like this. So a lawyer, particularly a government lawyer, has the ability to do what, what's called confess error. And confessing error is you go to the court and you said, you say, we screwed up, we made a mistake, we made a legal mistake, we made a factual mistake, and we're confessing error. You should take it from us, we were just wrong. And, and courts generally give enormous weight to that because nobody, almost nobody ever confesses error falsely. Like, like confessing error is against your interest.
Ben Ferguson
So you're saying you screwed up your job, right?
Senator Ted Cruz
That's what you're saying. So it Confessing error doesn't happen often, and you usually believe it because it's against the interest of the litigant. I want to read from an appellate decision in one of these cases here. In this case, reviewed under a king's bench jurisdiction, the Philadelphia District Attorney's Office, on behalf of the Commonwealth, conceded that levar Brown, a convicted murderer sentenced to death for a separate murder, was entitled to a new trial based upon a facially untimely claim under the pcra. Upon careful review, we conclude this concession was not reliable. More specifically, we find the District Attorney's Office conceded relief, although none was warranted based on the existing record, violated its duty of candor to the PCRA Court, withheld material evidence from the court, opposed efforts by Amiki to gain access to this evidence, submitted a false stipulation of fact, misstated facts in its pleadings, failed to conduct a reasonable investigation, and opposed a required evidentiary hearing. The predictable result was an erroneous grant of a new trial. These circumstances, troubling as they are, would not warrant a remedy beyond reversal of the PCRA Court's order in this particular case if they were confined to one case. Unfortunately, they aren't. Since 2018, the district attorney's office has conceded relief well over 100 times.
Ben Ferguson
By the way, if that's your record, that would mean that you're basically the worst attorney in the history of the world.
Senator Ted Cruz
It's worse than that, but let me get back to it. Let me finish reading it, and then I'm as conceded relief well over 100 times, mostly in murder cases like this one.
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Incredible.
Senator Ted Cruz
There have been numerous instances of untrustworthy concessions, lack of candor, misrepresentations of fact, lack of adequate investigation and avoidance of hearings. And the problems are poised to continue. There are apparently more than 1,000 cases yet to be reviewed by the District Attorney's Office Conviction Integrity Unit. And the District Attorney's Office vigorously defends its checkered concession program as a necessary corrective to pass misdeeds by prior administrations, the District Attorney's Office active, ongoing and problematic concessions program requires broader remedial action to promote just outcomes. Accordingly, in addition to reversing the PCRA Court's grant of a new trial here, we also hold that in any PCR case in which the District Attorney's Office concedes relief relief, the PCRA Court shall grant the Office of the Attorney General notice and the right to intervene in the case before ruling on the concession. Regardless of the Attorney General's position on the concession. If it chooses to intervene, it may well agree relief is warranted. Its independent assessment and participation will enhance the reliability of the proceedings and the PCRA court's ultimate decision. I've never seen that and I've practiced law a long time. So you said 100 times. That means they're terrible lawyers. It's actually worse than that. This is not Larry Krasner saying, I Larry Krasner screwed up 100 times. What he's doing is he's looking at murderers who are in jail right now that were put there by his predecessors, by previous district attorneys. And he's going and finding murderers and saying, we should release you. We should release you. We should release you. And then he's going in. He's not just conceding error, he's conceding relief. Relief means what do you get? He's saying, nope, throw out your conviction altogether over a hundred times, almost all with murderers. And he's lying. Look, the only reason you do that. Go back to the fundamental question that I asked at the beginning of this segment. Do you think America is better off if there are more murderers walking the streets or fewer murderers walking the streets? Do you want more murderers living in your neighborhood with your family? Or do you want fewer murderers living in your neighborhood with your family? Anyone who is rational, anyone who loves America, anyone who is not trying to destroy our nation. The obvious answer is, of course we don't want more murderers. And yet George Soros and Larry Krasner both do. And by the way, Singham does too.
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Episode: China Communists Funding Anti-AI Propaganda, plus Soros DAs Releasing Murderers
Date: June 22, 2026
Host: Ben Ferguson
Guest: Senator Ted Cruz
This episode tackles two major themes:
The discussion is fast-paced and packed with pointed commentary, anecdotes, and analysis by Ben Ferguson and Senator Ted Cruz.
[02:17–25:14]
Memorable Analogy:
“He said, I am so worried about China as he described it being the VHS and America being Beta, because once you are pushed out, you’re not going to get back in.”
– Ben Ferguson (12:13)
New Report:
Senator Cruz details a report exposing a Chinese Marxist billionaire, Neville Roy Singham, allegedly funding American nonprofits that:
Political Fallout:
Key Quote:
“The Chinese communists are putting real money… Their objective is for that 60 to 70% [of people concerned about AI] to become 80 to 90% and for the concerns to drive you to want to shut down AI. That’s their objective.”
– Senator Ted Cruz (14:05)
On the Data Center Debate:
Senator Cruz shares a practical policy approach:
“If you’re going to build a data center, build power production facilities so that you are generating more power than you are using. … The effect… is not going to be that they [residents] go up, but… should go down because the data center will be adding more power to the grid.”
– Senator Ted Cruz (18:05)
Dramatic Opinion Swings:
Senator Cruz cites statistics of public support for new data centers in Virginia dropping from 69% in 2023 to 35% by April 2026, attributing the swing to Chinese-funded campaigns ([21:17–22:11]).
Texas' Approach:
Texas is actively recruiting new data centers, contrasting with blue states' opposition. Cruz touts Texas’ ample land, energy expertise, and job creation via AI infrastructure ([22:24–25:14]).
[27:02–37:30]
Key Quote:
“He [Soros] realized that… our democratic society has vulnerabilities… So he doesn’t just target a presidential race… he really pioneered targeting district attorney races. … He elected what are called Soros DAs. And Soros DAs are the prosecution side of the Abolish the Police campaign.”
– Senator Ted Cruz (29:58)
Appellate Court Quote Read by Cruz:
“…the District Attorney’s Office conceded relief although none was warranted… violated its duty of candor… withheld material evidence… submitted a false stipulation of fact, misstated facts…”
– Senator Ted Cruz (32:27–34:41)
Senator Cruz’s Bottom Line:
“Do you think America is better off if there are more murderers walking the streets or fewer murderers walking the streets? … Anyone who is rational, anyone who loves America… The obvious answer is, of course we don’t want more murderers. And yet George Soros and Larry Krasner both do. And by the way, Singham does too.”
– Senator Ted Cruz (36:17)
“Whoever wins the [AI] race, the result is going to be trillions and trillions of dollars of investment and millions of jobs.”
– Senator Ted Cruz (08:16)
“We keep building new power generation capability, and with every data center coming in, we’re building more power generation capability. ... You [blue states] don’t want data centers? Texas will take them all.”
– Senator Ted Cruz (22:24)
“If you want to destroy a society, I can think of few more effective ways to do it than eliminate law enforcement. Because the result is anarchy and chaos.”
– Senator Ted Cruz (29:58)
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