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The 47 Morning Update with Ben Ferguson
Debate Preview: What Trump & Harris Need to do to WIN!
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A
Welcome. It is verdict with Senator Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson with you, and this is that show. That, for me, is a fun one, Senator, because we get to talk about a very important debate. We nailed the last debate, presidential debate by saying that if Joe Biden had a bad night, he would not be the nominee. We were right on that one. So what's the prediction this time?
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B
So tomorrow night is in all likelihood the single most important night between now and election day. Both candidates have a lot to lose. The stakes are very high. I think this will be the only debate between Donald Trump and Kamala Harris. I don't think Kamala wants to do another debate. That means tomorrow night, Kamala's got to make it through it. If she makes it through it, her team will put her back in Joe Biden's basement and she will not leave again until election day. She'll come out periodically to read a speech from a teleprompter and then they'll throw her back in the basement. Trump, on the other hand, this is his single best opportunity to lay out the massive difference between his record and Kamala's record. But it also has a lot of risk. She's going to try very hard to bait him. She wants him to look like a jerk. She's going to do everything she can to try to make him look like a jerk. And he's going to have to show a superhuman level of restraint, a greater level of restraint than I think he's shown at any previous debate.
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A
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B
So this debate is huge for both of them. Now, I don't think it will be the most consequential debate ever. That was the last debate. And our listeners will recall the night of the Trump Biden debate. We recorded a special pod that night, by the way. We'll do this again. We'll do a special pod the night of the Tuesday debate and we'll give our analysis real time right after the debate. But the Biden Trump debate, we said that night was the most consequential presidential debate in history because, and we predicted it that evening, it would change the names on the ballot. That's exactly what it did. That debate resulted in Joe Biden being pulled off the ballot. This debate I don't think is going to have that level of consequence. We know the names on the ballot now, they're going to be Donald Trump and Kamala Harris. That's not going to change. But from Trump's perspective, the upside is very significant. This will be his single greatest moment to cut through the billions of dollars of media propaganda. The media is doing everything they can to lionize, to canonize Kamala Harris. The debate tomorrow night is his chance to lay out substantively why people's lives were better when he was president than they have been while she and Biden are running the federal government and why people's lives will be better next year when he is president again than they are right now under Joe Biden and Kamala Harris. So the upside is significant from Kamala. The upside is not as great as the downside. Listen, there is a reason her team does not trust her extemporaneously. There is a reason like, like I am not aware of any precedent in history for any campaign doing what Kamala is doing, which is utterly and completely hiding from the media. They have so much concern about her ability to answer questions on the fly that this debate has a real downside. If she says something really dumb, if she crashes and burns, that that's a risk. On the other hand, look, you and I have talked about this before. I worry that Republicans underestimate Kamala Harris.
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A
I agree.
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B
I think a lot of Republicans think she's dumb as rocks. And I. That's not the case. Listen, I've served with her in the Senate. And the problem is Republican expectations are so low for Kamala that it really does lower the expectations for the debate. So if she does fine, if she gets up and gives reasonable answers and doesn't have a catastrophe, the media will all spin it as a huge victory for her. That's dangerous because as I said, the expectations have been defined so low that she doesn't need to clear all that much for it to be considered by all of the media a victory on, on Kamala Harris's part.
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A
You know, the last debate also had a different, I think, bar standard. Right when it began, I think the media realized, we can't fix this. We got to get rid of this guy. We got to dump him. And you and I did a post debate analysis, which we will also do after this one. And, and it was very clear instantly this was, we got to get rid of this guy. We got to get rid of this guy. We got to get rid of this guy. We got to get rid of this guy. And you could hear it as soon as the debate was over on everybody.
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B
Everybody, cnn, abc, cbs, NBC, the. All the media, the Democratic operatives, they were all, get rid of Biden. We're going to lose. Give us a new choice.
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A
Yeah. And so when you knew that was a chance. They don't have that option now. So they're going to have to tell everybody, even if it is not a great night, that it's a better night than it was or it wasn't that bad. They're going to spin it. We know that. Because they can't replace her. Like they're. They're stuck. We're. We're within the 60 day window here. This is the candidate. So they're going to lie if they have to. They're going to cover for her if they have to. So what is a bad night actually look like for her? Is it getting stumped? Is it, you know, getting fact checked or just saying things aren't true or nailing her on her flip flops? Because if you look at the list, she has basically changed her position on almost everything that's significant in the last two weeks. I mean, we're talking about, she's changed her what she thought on fracking, she's changed her thoughts on getting rid of combustion engines and cars. She's changed on almost every major policy issue. Hell, now she's in favor of the wall.
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B
Yeah, look, I think the flip flopping is less damaging than the actual substantive failures of her administration. You and I talked about this the night of her speech at the DNC convention. There were lots of aspects of the, of that speech, but the most fundamental was that it's divorced from reality. Her campaign is trying to run a campaign like she's a challenger. They are treating Donald J. Trump like he's the incumbent president. It's fundamentally weird. That's not how VPs run. VPs run saying, our record in this administration has been really successful. Continue the success. She's tried to run away from everything the last four years. And, and, and so listen, my advice to Trump would be don't focus as much on the flip flopping. Focus on the fact that her actual record. Look, you don't have to tell us what you would do. You're in office, you're doing it right now. And what you're doing right now is a disaster. So it doesn't really matter what empty promises you make, because we are seeing the effects. And the most important advice for Trump? Well, actually, there's a number of different bits of advice. One is don't blow his top. Don't get provoked. And by the way, Kamala's entire strategy is going to be to piss him off. She wants him to blow his top and become a spectacle. She wants him to look like an abusive jerk. That is, I promise you, her debate team. She's sitting there with Pete Buttigieg and a bunch of smart Democrats saying, okay, how can you poke him? What irritates him, what makes him angry? And they want to paint him so their spinners will say that he's a misogynist and a racist, that he doesn't like women and he doesn't like African Americans. It doesn't matter what he says. That's going to be their spin, but she's going to try really hard to get him to say something that they can point to as proof for the claim that they're already planning to make. And so, from his perspective, the downside he has to avoid is stepping into that is getting provoked. The upside he has. You know, the best political advice I've ever gotten was something Heidi told me years ago, right when I was first running for the Senate, and I was getting ready to go give a speech, and I was getting ready to walk out on stage. And Heidi told me, she said, remember, it's not about you, it's about them. It's about their children, their hopes, their dreams, their future. Like every good political address, every good political debate, it's not about, I'm so awesome, I'm so wonderful. It is about you, your family, your children, what you care about. That, I think, is the most important thing for Trump to do tomorrow night is focus on how Joe Six Pack's life was better when he was president than it is now. And it can be better again. It's also, it is not all backwards looking. It is backwards looking only to assess what the future will be. Debates are also about what is your life going to be like next year. Everyone wants their life to be better. Everyone wants their kids to be better off. Everyone wants their, their, their income and their finances to be better. Everyone wants their hope and future and their safety and security be better. And tomorrow night is Trump's best chance to hold Kamala responsible for the failures of her own record and to contrast that with the successes of his record and then draw the connection that means you at home, your life is better if I'm in the White House next year.
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A
So how short is the list? And this is a question that I always ask when I'm involved with debate prep, is I don't want my, my guy to go out on stage with too much in his head. Right? And I don't want to go out, have him go out there with too many things where you get off on tangents that maybe don't connect with the voter. You, you look at the list and it's a pretty long list of flip flops that, that we have. Basically banning plastic straws. I leave that one off the list. For example, a mandate for automakers might bring it up. Banning fracking. I'd own that if I was him. Uh, mandatory buyback program for assault weapons. She just flip flopped on that and dropped that idea in the last week. Decriminalizing, crossing border. I'd own that one. Um, but there's, you know, there's a lot that she's flip flopped on at federal jobs guarantee. Do you. Do you lean in on that one? It was part of the Green New Deal. She says she's no longer for it. A Medicare for all. Do you lean in on that one? Reparations for slavery. Do you touch that one? What ones do you stick with and really try to hit home runs on if you're Trump?
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B
There are four issues in this debate. Border inflation, crime, and national security. Borders, number one. And Trump needs to pound over and over and over again. When I was president, we had the lowest rate of illegal immigration in 45 years. You and Joe Biden have deliberately caused an invasion of this country. Every death that has happened, every child that has been abused, every woman that has been raped is because you invited eleven and a half million illegal immigrants into this country. And to this day, you refuse to fix it. And in fact, I would focus on something you and I talked about in our podcast last week, which is just last week, Mexico announced the government of Mexico that they are paying for buses to take illegal immigrants from Mexico's southern border to our southern border. The government of Mexico is doing this. They're putting armed guards, armed soldiers on those buses and they're dropping them off. They're doing this because you, your administration created an app for an illegal immigrant down in Central America to say, hey, I want to come to America, and you invite them. That is happening today. And so understand, if Kamala Harris is president, this invasion will continue. But instead of 11.5 million people, it's going to be 20 million or 30 million people. And that means there are going to be more dead bodies, there are going to be more children assaulted, there are going to be more women raped. Making that case is critical. Inflation. So on just about every poll that is done, the number one and number two issues in this country are number are the crisis of the southern border and inflation. Slash the economy. Those are typically 1 and 2. They're both at about 30%, depending on the state, depending on the time of the poll, one or the other is one and two. But those two together dominate the field after that, crime, although crime wraps into illegal immigration as well. So it's, It's. It is its own issue, but it's also a subsidiary of illegal immigration. And. And then two simultaneous wars. Look, I think Trump needs to own. When I was president, we had no wars. Not only that, isis. During Barack Obama, ISIS owned a caliphate. They were waging war in just a few months I defeated isis and it was all over. And we had no war. We had peace. And in fact, we had peace breaking out in the Abraham Accords. I signed the Abraham Accords. The Middle east, we saw Arabs and Israelis coming together under, under you and Joe Biden. We have the war in Ukraine because Russia is encouraged by the weakness that you and Joe Biden have. And we see October 7th and the war in Israel because you sent $100 billion to Iran and 90% of Hamas's funding comes from Iran. And you funded the death squads that murdered Israelis. You say you've got Israel's back. Why do you continue flooding cash into Iran? Kamala, you gave a speech at the DNC saying you will always support Israel. Why today are you allowing Iran to sell 2 million barrels of oil a day, funding the death squads who are fighting and murdering Israelis and Americans? Why are you doing that today? And by the way, you mentioned as a question, I think Trump should try to force her to answer that, to turn to her and say, answer the question. Why? Right now you are in office. I enforced the oil sanctions, and we cut Iran's oil sales from a million barrels a day down to 300,000. You and Joe Biden came in, you refused to enforce them, and Iran is selling 2 million barrels a day. Kamala, why are you going to allow Iran to sell 2 million barrels a day tomorrow? Because the money they make is going to fund Hamas terrorists that is going to murder Israelis and Americans. Why are you so committed to giving money to America's enemies?
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A
She's going to respond.
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B
I don't know how answers that.
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A
Well, and this is my question, do you preemptively say what you think the response is going to be? Because I think what I, if I was on her side, I'd say, look, you're going to respond whether we have sanctions on Iran, and I'm in favor of those sanctions. I'm in active those sanctions. So should he preemptively say, hey, I know you're going to say you've got sanctions, but they're not being enforced, so they're worthless. Just like you say, we have safety at the border and it's worthless. We, it's wide open, southern border, everybody knows it. Do you take that off the table? In part of, in part of your, your, your, your attack on her if you're Trump?
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B
No, no, no. Why now? Because you let her make that response and then you say, look, results matter. When I was president, we had the lowest rate of illegal immigration in 45 years under you it's the worst in history. So what you're doing is not working. When I was president, Iran was selling 300,000 barrels a day under you. It's 2 million barrels a day. That's $80 billion you've given to the Ayatollah Khamenei who chants, death to America and death to Israel. I wouldn't. I'd let her. I'd want her to say, we have sanctions. We're trying. Well, if you're trying, you're either catastrophically incompetent or you don't, in fact, want them to work. Because what I can tell you is when I was there, it worked. So one of us can get the job done and the other could try tomorrow. You're still. You have the opportunity to get the job done right now, and you're not doing it. I think it's because you don't want to do it. I think it's because you want the money to go to Iran. But whether you want this result or you simply are so ineffective that you can't get it done, it doesn't matter. Because the result for Americans is our lives are at greater jeopardy today. We have a greater risk of a terrorist attack than any time in history. And that. Listen, what I'm saying, these are not words that come naturally from Donald Trump.
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A
Yeah.
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B
Number one, they're based on laying out a detailed, factual predicate. That. That's not so. Look, let's talk for a minute about what the two candidates are doing. Kamala right now is doing a very detailed preparation session. She has a whole room of people. She has someone, I'm sure, playing Donald Trump. They're going through questions, they're going through answers. They're considering possible options. Trump has said a thousand times he doesn't prepare for debates. I don't know if he's preparing for this debate or not. I do know that when I debated him over and over and over again, I think it was right that he did not prepare. That's just not how he does it, which means it is harder to think through. Now, look, what he does well is he has instincts of a barroom brawler. He has instincts of just uppercut, uppercut. Uppercut. And those instincts can be valuable, very valuable. I will say I think they are more dangerous to him with an African American female opponent than they are with an old white guy. That it's one thing to punch Joe Biden, it's another thing. Look, it doesn't matter what he says or does. They're going to call Him a misogynist and a racist, but they desperately want him to give one sound bite that is proof for it.
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A
Yeah, they want the clip so they can use it and add.
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B
And so this is where I hope they're doing some, some preparation. I don't know if they are, but avoiding giving that clip. And it's where his usual approach of just go into the fight and whatever they say, just punch him. That has risks. Now, that being said, and I said this the night after Biden's debate, I called Trump a couple days later and told him this. The debate against Biden was the best debate Donald Trump has ever done. He was in control, he was measured. He didn't go over the top. He didn't, he didn't interrupt. And by the way, I actually think it is a real victory for the Trump campaign that the microphones are turned off. I think the irony is the Biden campaign insisted upon that in the CNN debate and I think it proved a huge favor to him. Because, look, if you look at the first debate between Trump and BIDEN Back in 2020, that was not a good debate. And the reason it was not is that Trump interrupted Biden constantly and Biden was in the process of crashing and burning. And Trump's interruptions basically saved Biden. What he did in this most recent debate because his microphone was turned off is he stayed quiet and let Biden destroy himself. Yeah, in this instance. And there, and there was the whole back and forth where ironically Kamala said, we want the mics back on. And Trump's campaign team said, no, let's stick with the rules we had. I think that substantively benefits Trump because it helps him be more disciplined and constrained. And it lets Kamala. She will be memorizing little bits, little one minute answers and she'll be. And she'll do some good ones. She will have some good moments that she memorized. It's why, if I were Trump, I'd ask some specific questions. I'd put her on the, you know, why are you going to allow Iran to sell 2 million barrels of oil tomorrow when you know that money will fund Hamas and Hezbollah and be used to murder Israelis and Americans? I doubt she's prepared for that question. If I were Trump, I'd be thinking of a couple of places where she has to ad lib because her greatest risk is when she's ad libbing. Look, you recall the interview she did where she was asked about, you haven't been to the border? And she's like, well, well, I haven't been to Europe. Well, I haven't been to the border. Like the ad libbing she was bad at. Trump wants to get her in a position where he asks a really powerful question and she can't answer it.
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A
That would be a blessing. I'm not kidding when I say a blessing for his campaign because it would show exactly who she is. And many Americans, I'm not sure they remember it because of the, of the, the media attention. And she became, she was the most unpopular VP that we've had and then she became the second coming of the queen because the coronation and that's the, that is who the American people need to be reminded of. This is who she is. This is what she has said. It's a tough job, especially when the media is protecting her. Want to tell you about our friends over at blackout Coffee. Every morning I start my morning off with a exceptional cup of coffee. Not an average cup of coffee and it comes from blackout coffee. Now there's a lot of woke liberal coffee companies out there. Don't give them your money and don't settle for an average cup of coffee. That's liberal. Blackout coffee is 100% committed conservative values. That's why they were started because they saw where the coffee business was. A bunch of woke liberal companies from the sourcing of the beans, the roasting process and customer support and shipping. Blackout coffee is a true American company with American values and they accept no compromise on taste or quality. I want you to try blackout coffee. I'm going to save you some real money. Go to blackoutcoffee.com verdict that's blackout coffee.com verdict now when you use the coupon code verdict you're going to get 20% off your first order. Whether you're a traditional coffee drinker or you love flavored coffee, they are premium. Their instant coffee is honestly phenomenal. I travel with it every time I'm on the road. So go to blackout coffee.com verdict be awake, not woke. That's blackout coffee.com verdict promo code verdict for 20% off your first order. You mentioned crime center is another point that you thought that Donald Trump should really hit on this debate. And there's a very interesting new stat that came out to sav sad station but it's one that's important. A police officer is shot in the US every 22 hours this year. That is a massive increase during the Biden Harris era. Police union has come out and they said under the watch of the Biden Harris administration, a police officer United States of America is now being shot every 22 hours this year. According the Fraternal Order of police, more than 260 law enforcement officers have been shot so far this year. They said this is. The war on cops is continuing in this country because we have turned them into the bad guys. During the past two years, Senator, more than 630 law enforcement officers have been shot. We saw 378 officers shot last year. That is a 60% increase from 2018, when Donald Trump was president. Should that become an issue?
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B
So, look, I think standing up for law enforcement and standing up to secure the border absolutely should be an issue. I would go after Kamala on her repeated support for abolishing the police, for defunding the police, for defunding and abolishing ice. This is what she's done over and over again. I would tie it to her raising money to bail out violent protesters, violent rioters in Minneapolis. And by the way, she picked as her VP the most liberal governor in America who refused to send in the National Guard to stop Minneapolis from burning. And so her pattern for her entire career has been siding with the radicals who undermine cops. And Donald Trump ought to point out, look, the Fraternal Order of the Police has endorsed me. Law enforcement officers across this country have endorsed me. The Border Patrol union has endorsed me. He ought to make that point tomorrow night. He ought to say, the men and women who protect us are standing with me, and there's a reason, because I stand with them, because I have their backs. And Kamala Harris, her entire career, systematically has undermined them. And I would turn to her and say, Kamala, at a public Senate hearing, you compared ice, the Immigration and Customs Enforcement Agency, who protect us from violent criminals coming to this country. You compared them to the kkk, the Ku Klux Klan. Do you still think the people who guard our border and protect us from violent criminals coming in this country, do you still think they're Klansmen? Like, that's the sort of question Kamala, she doesn't have a good answer to.
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Doesn'T have a good answer to it. And that puts her in a corner. How much do you think the. The. This is going to be a tough debate for Trump on the issue, for example, of Israel. Like, I think that should be brought up. I could see that the media and the. And those that are involved in this debate, running away from that issue. Should he make that an issue as well? And how much he has supported those who are advocating for the terrorists.
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B
He absolutely should, because it divides the Democrat Party. He should point out, look, it is your party that is embracing the pro Hamas protesters. It is your party that is funding Iran that's paying for Hamas. It is your party that is undermining Israel. And, you know, look, this might be an interesting moment for him to turn to her and say, listen, when I was president, we had the Abraham Accords. We had incredible, historic peace in the Middle East. Why did it go so badly as soon as you and Joe Biden took over? What did you do wrong? Or, Kamala, do you think you did nothing wrong? That you have no. You bear no responsibility for the disaster that happened as soon as you came into the White House? All right, that's another nasty question. Like, I don't know how she answers that. I actually. If I were part of Kamala's prep team, that's really. That's a tough question to answer, because whatever she says is a problem. And the rioters. Look, I wouldn't make Israel about Israel. I would make Israel about America.
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A
How do you mean that? Because that's hard to do. I'm asking it sincerely. How do you do that, then?
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B
Because everyone who hates Israel hates America, by the way. Everyone who hates Jews hates Christians. Hamas hates Israel, and they hate America. Hezbollah hates Israel, and they hate America. Iran refers to Israel as the little Satan. They refer to America as the great Satan. I'd say, Kamala, under your administration, you put $100 billion in the hands of Iran. They funded Hamas and Hezbollah. They committed the greatest mass murder of Jews since the Holocaust in a single day, and they have called for jihad against America. Your administration has released multiple terrorists who have crossed our southern border. It's only a matter of time until radical Islamic terrorists commit another horrific terror attack in the United States. And if I were Trump, I'd look at the camera and say, I'll tell you what. If I am president, I will protect you against that. We're going to secure the border. We're going to stop the terrorists. We're going to stop letting them in for the last four years. So one of the most important jobs that Trump has to do is to tie her to her actual record, because her entire campaign is based on running away from her record. Now, from Kamala's perspective, all right, I'm going to wager. I'm going to offer you $100 bet.
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A
You have my attention. I like winning bets with you.
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B
$100 bet that Kamala tomorrow says the words I'm speaking. You're going to take that bet.
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A
Oh, 100%. She's going to say it. No, I will not take that bet. No way in hell.
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B
Okay. And it's why she's so pissed that the mics are off. Like, like she's been practicing. I'm speaking. And she has T shirts made to say I'm speaking because she wants him to interrupt her.
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A
And, and it's the, yeah, she's, He's a chauvinist pig who's interrupting a strong woman.
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B
You know, stop mansplaining. Like, like she's ready for that because the mics are off. It's going to be harder, but she will have a moment. All right, how about a dollar? Will you take a dollar bet that she.
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A
I'll do a dollar just for the entertainment.
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B
I'm just so, so next podcast, one or the other is collecting a dollar.
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A
Yeah, I, I'm in for that one. I, I, yeah, no problem. Yeah, I want to go back to something you said.
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B
By the way, I admire you as a fiscal conservative that you're cheap as hell.
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A
I mean, I mean, look, I'm not Mitt Romney.
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B
I'm not Mitt Romney. I didn't say a ten thousand dollar bet. I said 100 bucks.
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A
All right, so you want to know something? You're going to laugh at this. So there's two things I will always bet because I still feel like I win even if I lose. You ready for the list? It's very simple. Queso or barbecue.
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B
You'll bet queso. You're bet barbecue every time.
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A
Even if I know I'm going to lose, because even if I lose, I still get queso or barbecue. I still win.
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B
All right, so you know what Heidi and I bet in our marriage?
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A
I love this. What is it?
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B
We bet either a latte or a back rub. And it's kind of like I don't care if I win or lose either way. Like, if I buy my wife a latte, that's great. If I give her a back rub, I like giving her a back rub. If she gives me a back rubber, I like getting a back rub. Like, it's, it's like it's a perfect bet because there's, there's no losing.
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A
All right, I want to go back to something that you said a moment ago. And, and it's a theme that I would say if I was in the room tonight with Trump doing last minute debate prep, I would tell him to own this line that you mentioned, and I want to go back to it. You are in office now. Is that a theme that he should keep hammering home to remind people this is not somebody that's running for. She is the incumbent. You're in office now. All the problems that you're creating that you now claim if you vote for me, I'm going to fix. Why aren't you fixing them now? Is that a theme he should hammer home?
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B
Yes, but I would connect it to this. You say you will do X. You're in office right now. You're doing the opposite of X and it's a disaster. Like, like I'd make the point. All right. When I was a college debater, because as you know, I was one of the cool kids. I was not a Division 1 college athlete like a certain co host of mine.
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A
I hear that college. I feel like that almost took me off the list for this gig with you.
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B
Right.
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A
It was like, oh, he's like, he's an athlete, you know.
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B
Yeah. Like, you know, by the way, I can still take your ass in hoops.
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A
Well, that's true.
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B
Particularly because you've gotten. Particularly because you've gotten so skinny. Like when you were 70 pounds heavier, you were more dangerous because you could post up on me and just sort of use your mass and you might have been able to outscore me. You and I have not played one on one. But I.
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A
Faster. Now. This could be a problem.
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B
I think, I think, I think, I think I could. I think I could take your acid hoops. Now, you can kill me at tennis. Not even, not even beat me, but dominate me at tennis. But I think I could take it hoops. But, but we may never know. Just to be clear, last time you played with me, you did get your finger broken.
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A
Yeah, I was out of commission for six, eight weeks. Yeah, that's on you, by the way. I'm still waiting for that workers comp claim to come through.
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B
You know, keep waiting.
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A
Just remember a long time on that one. All right. But back to the.
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B
My employer owes $34 trillion. My employer is judgment proof.
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A
You do work for an interesting company. I will say that. So back to. Are you, you are in office now. How do you keep hammering that?
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B
I think you do it to make the. So anyway, the point I was making about college debate is particularly when you're in opposition, the word that I would always urge a debater to say in opposition is harms, harms, harms, harms. Who is hurt? Who is hurt? Make it real. Make it connected to the actual harms.
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A
This goes back to the hiding advice that she gave you when you're debating.
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B
Yes, it's. It's absolutely the same. It, it is how. Who is losing, who is hurting. So she's going to promise, she's going to promise I'm going to lower prices. She's going to promise I'm going to secure the border. She's going to promise I'm going to bring peace to the Middle East. And it's a very simple point. You say this, but if you were in fact going to do it, you would do it right now. Nothing is stopping you from doing it. Today. You are doing the opposite. If the American people want to know what you'll do in office, the best way to know what you'll do in office is ask, what are you doing in office right now? And by the way, if the American people want to know what I'll do in office, the best way to know is to look at what I did when I was in office. When I was in office, we had the lowest unemployment rate in 50 years. When I was in office, we had the lowest African American unemployment ever recorded. When I was in office, we had the lowest Hispanic unemployment ever recorded. When I was in office, we had historically low inflation at 2% or lower. When I was in office, we had the lowest rate of illegal immigration in 45 years. When I was in office, we had peace and prosperity worldwide. Russia didn't invade anybody, China didn't invade anybody. And Israel was not only at peace, but was negotiating historic peace agreements with Arab neighbors. Every single thing that worked well for the American people, you and Joe Biden have screwed up and you're campaigning promising it'll be different, but you're not willing to change anything today. I think you're going to continue doing what you're doing right now. And what you're doing right now is not working.
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A
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B
Well, that can't be true. Alexa told me it didn't happen.
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A
It's true. Good point.
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B
Which is a great example of how Big Tech is wildly biased and trying to completely skew the election results, as is for example, the entire corporate media. Look, the only way I think Kamala does another debate is if this goes so catastrophically bad that her team concludes that she is losing. Unless something happens different. I think that's unlikely. It's possible. But I don't think this debate is going to be the same sort of bloodbath that that, that, that the Trump Biden debate was. I think the narrative after the debate, every media outlet is going to say Kamala won. She could literally fall to the ground, curl up at a ball and begin crying and wailing hysterically. And they'd say kamala won because that's what they want to say because they know they can't pull her. They were willing to attack Biden because they said, wow, we can get rid of this guy and be in a better position to win at this point. They're committed. They are tied to the master of the ship, Kamala Harris. So it doesn't matter what she does. They're gonna say she won. So it would take something truly epic for it to be bad enough for them to be willing to agree to another debate. Now Trump wants another debate. He's asked for a Fox News debate. But of course, Kamala will not go in front of a hostile questioner. She wants. She wants the questioner. She wants the moderators to be on her side. And by the way, let's close. I want you to listen to this compilation of Kamala Harris debating Pence and her saying what I said she's going to say tomorrow night. I'm speaking.
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C
Give a listen, Mr. Vice President. I'm speaking.
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A
I have.
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C
I'm speaking. Mr. Vice President. I'm speaking. I'm speaking.
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A
Be important if you said the truth, Mr. Vice President.
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C
I'm speaking. I'm speaking. Okay, if you don't mind letting me finish, we can then have a conversation. Okay.
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B
Please.
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C
Okay. Trying to answer you now.
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B
The people deserve a straight answer.
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C
I will not sit here and be lectured by the vice president. I'm speaking. Yeah, I'm about to. I will not be lectured by the vice president.
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A
I mean, that's her dream scenario, right? Do that to Donald Trump all night.
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B
She's going to try with the mics off. It's going to be harder, but she's still going to say it.
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A
It's going to be an interesting debate. It's going to be very interesting to see if we get a second one out of it. And it'll be interesting to see how the media spins it. If it is a bad debate, we're going to cover it all for you. Don't forget, we do the show Monday, Wednesday and Friday. Make sure you hit that subscribe auto download button wherever you are. Listening to this podcast right now. Share it on social media as well. And the senator, I will see you back here Wednesday after the big debate.