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You're listening to the 47 Morning Update with Ben Ferguson. Good Monday morning. So nice to have you with us on the seven Morning Update. And we've got a major story for you, but a couple different perspectives on it. It deals with Jeffrey Epstein, the Epstein files, and why Democrats all of a sudden, out of nowhere claim they actually care about the victims and how there's nothing that's tying Jeffrey Epstein to Donald Trump in any way. The media, they don't want you to know that. But before I get to that, I want to talk to you about my friends at Kirk Elliott Precious Metals. Two days ago, I got my new order of silver. Now, I'm investing in silver right now because the pricing on it is amazing and the upside, well, it's real. And I wasn't paying massive upcharges on, quote, rare or special coins. And then when you go to sell them, you take away all of your earning potential. Why do they do it this way at Kurt Elliott? Because they have transparent pricing up front. 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They just need a good lie that can undermine President Trump by 5 or 10 points in polling and take away his political power. Exactly what they did to him in 2016. And now we know a little bit more about how corrupt the Democratic Party actually is when it comes to Jeffrey Epstein. How do we know this? Because of a shocking story that's not being reported on this week. We now know that the convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein texted with House Democrats during a Michael Cohen hearing trying to hurt Donald Trump. I want to give you a breakdown of what we know. Documents released by Congress via the estate of Epstein and his communications actually show and confirm that Epstein, while live, was literally text messaging Democratic member of Congress during the hearing. Specifically, according to the newly released documents from the Epstein estate during the February 2019 hearing of Michael Cohen before the House Oversight Committee. You may remember Michael Cohen is the former lawyer for Donald Trump. And they were using Michael Cohen to try to go after Donald Trump and undermine him as we were rolling into the 2020 election. So Michael Cohen is before the House Oversight Committee. And what was Jeffrey Epstein doing? He was sending text messages to Stacy Plaskett, a Democrat from Virginia, from the Virgin Islands in real time. The messages indicated that he was watching the hearing, pointing out that Cohen had mentioned Ronan Keeper of the Secrets, referring to Trump's former assistant, and prompted that Plaskett, quick, I'm up next. Is that an acronym? Now, Plaskett's office acknowledged that she received messages from staff, constituents and the public at large, including from Epstein, during the hearing. Trying to downplay this to the Washington Post this week. Now additional release communications show Epstein frequently referenced Trump in his emails and text messages with other associates. For example, in 2017, Epstein claimed to be passing messages from Trump to others. Meanwhile, there is strong bipartisan momentum in Congress to force the release of more documents related to Epstein. Is what Democrats want you to believe. Why do they care now, but not before now? For one reason, because they want to try to find a way to hurt Donald Trump. Donald Trump responding to this by saying this as he was leaving Ted back to the White House from Florida.
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Fake news like you, you're a terrible reporter. And fake news like you, they just keep bringing that up to deflect from the tremendous success of the Trump admin. So a guy like Massie, his poll numbers are showing he's at 6% approval rating right now. And we call him Rand Paul Jr. Because he never, he never votes for the Republican Party. So they're using Jeffrey Epstein as a Deflection from the tremendous success that we're having as a party.
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Donald Trump virtually saying the same thing he said about the Russian hoax back in 2016, 17, 18 and 19. And now Democrats are doing it again. But while Democrats are playing checkers, Donald Trump seems to be playing chess on this issue. We now know that he has ordered the Department of Justice, at the request of the President, to investigate Epstein's ties to political foes, as the left has described it, including many prominent Democrats and mega donors, including former President Bill Clinton. Trump's team is strongly rejecting the narrative that these documents are a Democratic led smear against him. The White House says the release emails were selectively leaked by Democrats for one reason, to give them to the liberal media and then have those somehow hurt him or stain him. Trump himself has labeled the Epstein file focus. A hoax and nothing but a diversion. Now, here's the other part that deals with facts. There are no. I want to make this clear. Even CNN admitting this this week. There are no verified allegations in the public record so far that a Democratic lawmaker was collaborating with Epstein with the express purpose, they say, of targeting Donald Trump, even though the text messages are clear. Epstein was targeting Donald Trump. But that's what the media wants you to believe. The one confirmed text exchange with a Democratic congresswoman does in fact show that Epstein was texting her during the hearing in real time and making it clear he was trying to hurt Donald Trump. We also know that the media has been forced to correct themselves, making it clear, as I mentioned a moment ago, that there are no verified allegations at all against President Donald Trump with anything to do with Jeffrey Epstein, something the media hopes you will forget. Why are they obsessed with the issue? It's actually very simple. The Democratic Party is obsessed with this issue because they want something to undermine the President by two or three points. What happens when that happens? It's a real simple thing. When that happens, then the President has a harder time getting his agenda done. Which brings me back to Representative Ro Khanna, a Democrat from California. Ro Khanna went on Meet the Press and what he said was, as Donald Trump is losing his MAGA base over the Epstein files, this goes back to exactly the political narrative that they actually want. He sat down with Meet the Press host Kristen Welker and she said, I want to ask you a big question about a big issue that deals with Jeffrey Epstein. So here we are. We have a President of the United States of America yet again having to deal with another hoax. I believe most of the Epstein files are going to come out. But as you can hear from Ro Khanna, he believes they're scoring points to undermine Trump.
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You have been focused on pushing for the release of the Jeffrey Epstein files. Your joint bill with Thomas Massie is going to come to a vote on the House floor. It's expected to this week. Do you think you have enough votes for it to pass?
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We do.
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And there's nothing I have been prouder of or more meaningful than this work. It's the credit goes to the survivors. They're going to be at the Capitol on Tuesday in a press conference Massey, myself and Representative Greene are doing. This was disgusting. Epstein had set up a rape island where rich and powerful men were abusing young girls with impunity. And there are thousands of victims. And rich and powerful men still have buildings named after them, scholarships named after them. This is not partisan. They all need to be held accountable. The Epstein class needs to go.
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How many Republicans are going to join you? Could you have a veto proof majority?
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Well, I was hoping that. And then Donald Trump started to tweet out saying that he's going to un endorse people like Marjorie Taylor Greene. So it's basically Massey and me versus the White House. I mean, they're calling members to the Situation Room. But you know why Trump is losing his MAGA base on this? The reason he's losing it is he ranting. There's a corrupt governing elite that has shafted you. That this is the Epstein class was the forgotten Americans. And I'm going to stand up for forgotten Americans. He's forgotten those forgotten Americans. And we are saying that we are going to stand up for survivors, for America's kids, and we're going to hold this class accountable.
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Very quickly, how many Republicans do you think will join you?
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I'm hoping for 40 plus.
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Okay, look, this is the Democratic Party. This is how little they care about the American people. This is how little they care about the victims. All they care about, clearly, is scoring political points. They want to undermine Donald Trump and they're willing to use Jeffrey Epstein's victims from decades ago, literally from decades ago, to accomplish it. If this was about exposing who was with Jeffrey Epstein, then why did the Democrats protect Jeffrey Epstein? In fact, that brings us to part two of the story. We now know that Jeffrey Epstein was literally working with Democrats on Capitol Hill to try to hurt Donald Trump. And Jeffrey Epstein was actually sending questions to be asked to Democratic members of Congress. Did you hear what I just said? Democrats, we now know, were working with Jeffrey Epstein to try to hurt Donald Trump. When Donald Trump was in office, when Donald Trump was running for election, this is how corrupt. This is how corrupt and how evil the Democratic Party has become. They were texting messages while conversations were having about Donald Trump in Congress. The Democratic Party was working with Jeffrey Epstein. Not investigating Jeffrey Epstein, but working with Jeffrey Epstein. And working with Jeffrey Epstein for only one reason. Working with him to try to take down and try to hurt Donald Trump. So when you think about that, and now the Democratic Party says they care about justice, they do not. They only cared about weaponizing whatever they could to hurt Trump, including working with a pedophile, with a convicted sex offender by the name of Jeffrey Epstein. And now they say, oh, we care about the victims. No, they only care about hurting the president. And that is what this story is really all about. Thank you for listening to the 47 Morning Update with Ben Ferguson. Please make sure you hit subscribe wherever you're listening to this podcast right now. And for more in depth news, also subscribe to the Ben Ferguson Podcast and we will see you back here tomorrow.
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Episode Title: Dems Exploited Epstein & Victims for Political Gain against Trump
Date: November 17, 2025
In this episode, Ben Ferguson delves into newly released information connecting Democratic politicians to Jeffrey Epstein during the Michael Cohen hearings, arguing that Democrats and the media have weaponized the Epstein case for political gain against President Trump. Ferguson discusses real-time texts between Epstein and Democratic Congresswoman Stacey Plaskett, mainstream media narratives, and bipartisan efforts in Congress related to the Epstein files. He contends that recent Democratic concern for Epstein's victims is insincere and used primarily to undermine the current administration.
Ferguson asserts that Democrats and the media have only shown interest in Epstein’s victims now that it serves to "hurt Donald Trump's presidency," likening this to previous "hoaxes" such as the Russia-collusion narrative.
He argues this is part of a familiar pattern:
Newly released documents reportedly show Jeffrey Epstein texting with House Democrats—including Stacey Plaskett—during the 2019 Michael Cohen House Oversight hearing, seemingly coaching or influencing their conduct.
Plaskett's office confirmed receiving messages, including from Epstein, during the hearing but sought to downplay their significance. (05:30)
Ferguson notes Trump has ordered the DOJ to investigate Epstein’s ties to powerful political figures, especially Democrats such as Bill Clinton, rejecting the framing of the scandal as a Democratic smear.
The White House argues that the document releases are selective leaks meant to "stain" the President for the media's benefit. (09:33)
Ferguson emphasizes that no verified allegations connect Trump to Epstein’s crimes, a fact even acknowledged by CNN.
He contends that the media is attempting to boost Democratic chances by using “diversions” to lower Trump’s polling advantage. (10:50)
Audio features an interview excerpt with Rep. Ro Khanna (D-CA), who partnered with Rep. Thomas Massie (R-KY) on a bipartisan bill for the release of Epstein-related documents:
Khanna expresses hope for strong Republican backing but notes White House opposition as Trump threatens to withdraw support from some GOP lawmakers.
Ferguson responds critically to Khanna, arguing Democrats are less interested in justice for Epstein's victims and more focused on using the scandal for political leverage.
He alleges Democrats “protected” Epstein when it wasn't politically useful, and now collaborate with him:
Ferguson concludes by restating that Democrats are exploiting Epstein’s victims, not genuinely seeking justice:
On Political Motivation:
On Epstein Communicating with Congress:
On Framing & Media Corrections:
On Bipartisan Efforts:
On Alleged Democrat-Epstein Collaboration:
This episode is a deep dive into the intersection of the Jeffrey Epstein case and contemporary political strategy, particularly as it affects and is allegedly wielded against President Trump. Expect strong opinions, sharp criticism of Democratic tactics, exclusive legislative news, and perspectives not commonly found in mainstream coverage.