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Welcome. It is verdict with Senator Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson with you. And Senator, the biggest news story of the week. Many Americans are concerned about their banks. They're concerned about banking. They're concerned about what's happened with the fallout of Silicon Valley Bank. This wasn't a little bank. This was a big bank. It was one of the top three failures of my lifetime. I want to get your initial reaction to this and what you've heard, at least from those in Washington that were supposed to be keeping an eye on this bank and many others every day.
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Well, this has been a very chaotic time in the markets. We've seen two different banks fail, including the 16th largest bank in the United States, Silicon Valley bank with $210 billion in assets. That has called into question a lot of the financing for the tech industry. It's called into question a lot of the financing for venture capital. And it has potentially imperiled a significant number of mid sized banks. In response to this, the Biden administration rolled out a major bailout, conveniently bailing out the politically connected friends of the Biden White House in a way that will have lasting repercussions for the economy and will almost certainly incentivize future bad conduct by other banks.
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When you look at this from a standpoint of it being called a bailout, a lot of people have been calling it that. But this administration keeps saying this is not a bailout. Is this a bailout? Are the taxpayers going to have to foot the bill for this? Is this a delayed bill for taxpayers? How should the American people be reacting to this?
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This is 100% a bailout. And the Biden administration is spinning like crazy trying to pretend that it's not what they are arguing is the money. There's $120 billion in a fund that is paid by banks. And they say, well, that's not taxpayer money. Well, the last time I checked, banks are taxpayers. Banks pay quite a bit in taxes. Not only that, but the fees that the banks are paying into this fund they get from in turn extracting revenues from consumers. And so it, it comes from you and me. At the end of the day, this money didn't grow on a magic money tree that the Biden administration has that they decided to spend well over $100 billion in response to this. And here's what happened. So Silicon Valley bank has $210 billion in assets and a big chunk of its portfolio was held in securities and in particular long term government debt. And in fact, it had the highest securities portfolio as a percentage of total assets of any bank. And it took long term government debt. But then the Fed's policies raising interest rates made that government debt, made those bonds go down in value about 20%. And what happened is that the bank was required to mark to market those securities at their current valuations. Now if it held those government bonds to maturity, it would get the full payout, but they're worth about 20% less because the interest rates they were taken out at are significantly lower than where interest rates are today. That in turn caused an old fashioned run on the bank, which is depositors and in particular venture capital companies and tech companies began removing their funds en masse. And it was one after the other after the other that began pulling their funds out. Now look, we all know from classic movies like It's a Wonderful Life that a bank doesn't have all of the deposits just sitting there in cash. That it in the case of an SNL or mortgage bank, it is loaning them out. In this instance, the bulk of the funds were in securities, including in particular both government debt and mortgage bonds. And so when, when a ton of the depositors are saying give me my money back, they ran into real trouble because there was a liquidity mismatch. In other words, the assets they had available to give the depositors back were less than the demand from the depositors to get it back. And so California stepped in and shut the bank down on Friday. And what happened next was a series of things. So one, one consequence. The FDIC, the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation, insures deposits up to $250,000. So if you or I have our checking account or savings accounts, most of us presumably have less than $250,000 in our checking or savings accounts. Those are entirely insured by the government. And that's true for anyone that has less than 250,000. That's also true for smaller businesses, for mom and pop businesses, smaller businesses, but above 250,000, that is not supposed to be insured by the FDIC. And in the case of Silicon Valley Bank, a massive amount, 96% of their deposits were uninsured. In other words, it had a bunch of big, big, big deposit accounts way above the $250,000 insurance cap. The folks that had deposits in Silicon Valley bank that were above the $250,000 insurance cap include a ton of politically connected venture capital firms in Silicon Valley and startups. So for example, Circle, the payment technology firm had $3.3 billion in Silicon Valley Bank. That's a bunch of money, 3.3 billion is way, way, way above 250,000. There were a total of 1,074 private equity and venture capital funds that were banking with Silicon Valley Bank. And if you look at some of the players, in addition to Circle Roku, the streaming service had $487 million in Silicon Valley Bank. The crypto lender Block BlockFi, which is now defunct, had 227 million. Roblox, the online gaming platform, had 150 million. And Buzzfeed, the online media platform, had about 56 million in cash and cash equivalents at the end of 2022, the majority of which was held at Silicon Valley Bank. So you have a lot of big players with huge amounts of money. Now these players chose to deposit it knowing what the FDIC limits were. They didn't seek to insure it. They didn't seek to find any other way to protect it. They counted on, number one, that they believe Silicon Valley bank was too big to fail. But number two, what happened is the White House very quickly responded to Democrat politicians and tech firms and VC firms expressing dismay. And the Biden administration said, you know what? We're going to guarantee every deposit. Doesn't matter how big that was. Any way you look at it, a massive bailout. And it was a bailout that was done with no authorization from Congress. You know, you think back to the financial crisis that we saw in 2008. 2008 there was a financial crisis and there was a massive bailout. And what happened there? The George W. Bush administration went to Congress and they sought to pass what was called tarp, the Troubled Asset Recovery Program. And the first time, in fact, the House of Representatives voted it down and didn't give the Bush administration the bailout it asked for. Then ultimately it did. And actually the response to TARP prompted in significant part the Tea Party, the enormous wave of fed up voters that were very unhappy. Why rich connected bankers were getting billions in government money. It's striking here the Biden administration didn't go to Congress, didn't think Congress had anything to say at all. They just announced it. We're giving away money. Why? Because these are Democrat donors and people we listen to. And you know what, mom and Pop across this country are going to pay more. Local community banks in Texas and all across the country are going to end up paying more because the Biden administration decided to bail out Silicon Valley bank and to ignore the FDIC cap and give unlimited guarantees on deposits.
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Senator, I want to ask you a question, and this really is a political one, about the money that was coming out of Silicon Valley Bank. We've now been told that apparently they had given more than 73 million in donations to Black Lives Matter and related organizations. Before I get your thoughts on that, though, I want to tell you about chalk. If you're a real American man and you want to maximize your masculinity by boosting testosterone levels up to 20% over 90 days, you can actually do it with the chalk male vitality stack. Now, if you're a guy and you just feel like you've lost a little bit of that edge, you're getting a little bit older and you don't feel like yourself anymore, you can fight back again that war on masculinity. And you can do it with chalk. Choq, they are here to help real men, just like you and I, maximize our testosterone levels by boosting them up to 20% over 90 days. If you are ready to get that feeling back, then you need to check out chalk. Go online to choq.com use the promo code BEN for 35% off. Any chalk subscription for life. Plus you can cancel anytime. Choq.com promo code BEN for 35% off. So you see and you go back to what you're mentioning about how the FDIC works, right? You're supposed to have a limit to the first $250,000 of your deposits in a bank. But what Biden basically said is, hey, this is a woke liberal bank and we cover it all. Even though the people that were putting the money in the bank knew that they were overly leveraged here, that they didn't have as sound of a, of a lending practice as many other banks, they didn't care. So are we now at the point where we have a government that says, okay, you can act recklessly in the financial industry, specifically in banking, as long as you are in the right side of giving to Democrats or to parties, we'll cover you no matter how reckless you are, no matter how big you are. And as long as you're on our team and donating to things that we believe in, we'll get your back up to 100% of all of your deposits.
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Look, there are an awful lot of folks that are going to take exactly that message from this. This was an act of cronyism. It was also critically, you're right, that Silicon Valley bank was one of the most woke banks in America. It was very into esg. It was very into climate change, was very into Black Lives Matter. It was very into everything except apparently having a risk management process to protect Its depositors, deposits. And in fact, stunningly, Silicon Valley bank for a year prior to this didn't even have a chief risk management officer at a bank. That's pretty damn important. They didn't have this hedged against interest rate risk. They were gambling that the Fed would not raise rates even though they'd been screaming from the mountaintops that they were going to raise rates. A bank that is being prudent can hedge its investments against interest rates rising by investing also in counterbalancing investments that will go up when interest rates go up. They didn't do that. They were focused on virtue signaling. They were focused on showing just how woke they are. And it's important to understand also look, the bank here, these bank officers were bad actors. Let me tell you two data points that have been vastly underreported. Number one, hours before the bank was shut down, Silicon Valley bank gave very substantial bonuses to all of its employees. They just began writing checks to everyone hours before they were shut down. Data point number two, in the two weeks prior to their being shut down, the CEO and the CFO sold large amounts of stock. The CEO ended up making over a $2 million profit from selling stock less than two weeks before the bank was shut down. Both of those indicate corrupt intent. I'll tell you, I had a conference call in the last 48 hours with, with all 100 senators were invited to participate and, and treasury and the FDIC was on there. And I asked, I said, look, is it true that they gave bonuses to their employees? Number one, if so, I think it is outrageous. And number two, has there been any investigation into clawing back those bonuses? That because they're literally this, as far as I'm concerned, this is like Bonnie and Clyde. They're, they're robbing the bank as they know their customers. Deposits are about to get blown up. And much of the media coverage has ignored the exceptionally bad conduct by the bank's officers.
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You look at Joe Biden and one of the things that I think is very concerning about this Biden bailout, that's what it is, we should call it, that is the question now is, is this a big step towards government control of the banking system? Because if the government can choose winners and losers, and those are supposed to be giving oversight of the banks are not doing it. That's another huge problem here. And many people may not understand this. And I want you to explain it for people. The San Francisco Fed was, who was supposed to be supervising this bank. They either were asleep at the wheel or didn't care that they were acting this way. And if this is what the government's going to do, is this almost a play where they say, hey, we're just going to have a United States government now that is in total control of the banking system? That would be terrible for this country?
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Well, the banking system right now is already heavily regulated and bank regulators are deeply involved in examining the books and they should be involved. There is a very important role for bank regulators to make sure that banks are being honest and have sufficient liquidity and are sufficiently financed. I will note that this crisis, number one, was heavily encouraged by government policy. And in particular the Fed for years pursued an easy money policy of quantitative easing of virtually zero percent interest rates that was flooding the system with cash. Number two, the federal government also treated long term government debt as, as essentially risk fee free, zero risk government debt. Dodd Frank rammed through by the Democrats heavily encouraged banks to invest in long term government debt. Now one thing that does is it helps finance the massive debt that the Democrats are racking up on their spending spree. They want banks incentivized to buy that debt. But number two, that, that may make sense in a non inflationary environment, but when inflation exploded under Joe Biden and the Fed was forced to raise rates, suddenly that long term government debt, you had a spread there that, that severely reduced the value of those bonds. And it was government policies that encouraged it on the front end. But then on the back end you were absolutely right. The regulator of Silicon Valley bank was the San Francisco Fed. The San Francisco Fed bears an enormous amount of responsibility for what happened because this wasn't subtle, this was out in the open. This was, it was obvious. Silicon Valley bank was not hiding from the regulators that it had massive amounts in long term government debt. The Fed obviously knew that the Fed was raising interest rates and yet this exposure, and the Fed presumably knew that this interest rate exposure was not hedged. And so you have to ask what the hell happened at the San Francisco Fed? You go look at the San Francisco Fed's website, they again like Silicon Valley bank have all sorts of woke things on there about ESG and climate change and Black Lives Matter that was their priority. But actually doing their job. It is striking that the San Francisco Fed did nothing until it was too late.
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Will there be any accountability for the government regulators specifically in San Francisco on this? And is there anything that Washington can actually do to hold them accountable? Because if you, if you basically simplify this, you pretty much had a group of wealthy speculators that got really Upset that their money ended up being locked into a 10 year obligation at less than a 2% return. That's how one person put it. So then they basically said, all right, we'll convince the government it was in everyone's best interest to help them out of their jam at the expense of everyone else. And the Fed, who's supposed to be looking at this, watching this bank, they just didn't do a darn thing.
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Well, there needs to be accountability. And I do have a high level of confidence that at a minimum, there'll be accountability in the House, that the House is going to hold the regulators to account. What Joe Biden and the Democrats and what the corporate media are trying to do is of course, blame it all on Trump, because that's their answer for everything. But if you look at who the bank regulators were that were in charge of it, it wasn't Trump. Trump's been out of office for over two years. It was the Biden administration asleep at the wheel. And when you look at it also look, the moral hazard this will create is dangerous. And it's a basic principle. When you socialize the risk and you individualize the benefits, you always get bad behavior. Silicon Valley bank was behaving according to the incentives that they were getting from the Biden administration. They believed they'd be bailed out. And in particular, look, it's worth noting, the bailout is not even directed at Silicon Valley bank, at its stockholders. They have not been bailed out, at least not yet. The people who were bailed out were all of the depositors that had tens of millions or hundreds of millions or even billions of dollars in Silicon Valley Bank. By the way, among, among many of those depositors, billions of dollars worth, were Chinese companies. Silicon Valley bank, one of the things it specialized in was, was doing banking for foreign companies, foreign investors. And so this was also a bailout of China by the Biden administration. But you know what ordinarily happens when a bank fails. And listen, we've seen banks fail. That's part of how the system operates. When the bank managers take on too much risk, the bank should fail because you don't want to incentivize. You don't want to have everyone taking on too much risk. But what ordinarily happens when a bank fails is, number one, they try to find a private buyer. And they did try to do that over the weekend, and apparently they were unable to do so. There were several bids submitted, but the Biden FDIC refused to take any of the bids. They found the Terms unacceptable. Now, we don't know what those terms were. I can tell you in the call with the senators, we asked them and they didn't tell us. They didn't want people to know what the terms were. But the Biden administration turned down a private buyer that could come in and take over the bank, which is ordinarily what happens. Also ordinarily what happens when a bank fails is that everyone's deposits up to $250,000 get held completely harmless. And those are guaranteed by the FDIC and the larger deposit holders. Typically they're not blown out. Their larger deposits are not typically worthless, but they usually take a haircut somewhere in the 15 to 20% range. And that's what ordinarily happens when you put a whole bunch of money in one place at risk without it being insured. All of the depositors knew that, but they also knew that with their friends in the Biden administration that they could count on higher returns from Silicon Valley bank playing fast and loose. And if things went south, I think they were confident that Democrats in Washington would have their back.
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Last question on this for you, Senator. They're obviously having two banks back to back collapse is going to make people uneasy. When you guys were on these calls, did anyone talk about other banks or there's still concerns that other banks may have been following and doing the same exact thing that Silicon Valley bank was doing. Before I get that, I want to tell you real quick about our friends at Gusa Precious Metals. You know what's been happening in the headlines, in the economy. You know what's been happening with interest rates and if you've been saving for retirement for a long time, you know how important it is to protect your assets. Well, you can protect some of your assets by putting some of your money with a gold ira. I'm excited to tell you about a company I trust and I use Augusta Precious Metals. They're different because they even tell you if a gold IRA isn't your answer, there's no pressure with Augusta Precious Metals, just the facts about how it could work for you and your retirement. Now if you have an IRA or 401k and you've saved more than a hundred thousand dollars and you know how crazy the economy is and you know how important it is to protect your assets, especially if you're close to retirement because there is no time to make up losses, call a Gust of Precious Metals. Not only will you get their free guide, but you will also get a web conference. Now the web conference is amazing. I've done it. And you'll sit down and chat with someone one on one about your goals. Call them 8774-the-number4 Gold IRA. 877-the-number4 Gold IRA or online Augusta precious metals.com use my name Ben and you will actually get fees for up to 10 years for free. Augusta Precious Metals. Now other banks do in fact have hard times. Over the next week or two is the policy now officially of the Biden administration to bail out those banks, ensure 100% of the deposits no matter what because of the precedent that they just created out of thin air.
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So possibly. But when you look at other banks, look, there's always a risk of contagion and that is a serious concern. It's a concern that regulators need to take seriously. It's a concern that Congress needs to take seriously. We need our banking system to be safe and secure. There are very few if any banks though that are similarly situated to Silicon Valley Bank. Number one, it was almost exclusively big tech and venture capital companies that had deposits in Silicon Valley Bank. And the way Silicon Valley bank would work is they they'd bank a big venture capital firm and the VC firm would require that all their portfolio companies. So a venture capital firm is a firm that takes investments from individuals and institutions and then invest typically in the tech space, early stage and startup companies. And so a VC firm could have dozens or even hundreds of tech startups that it's invested in. And many of the VCs would require every one of the tech startups it had, they had to bank at Silicon Valley Bank. And so you ended up having a very high concentration. That degree of sector exposure makes a bank quite vulnerable that it was so intertwined with tech that tech has been hard hit lately. And in particular the higher interest rates much when you look at startups, they are often heavily funded by debt. And a startup, it could often be a pretty long ramp up before they have significant revenue. And so Silicon Valley bank had greater exposure because they were so sector concentrated in one area, number one. Number two, the fact that 96% of their deposits were uninsured, that is an unusually high number. They were not their business was not having lots and lots of depositors under the FDIC insurance cap. It wasn't a lot of mom and pops. It was big firms with hundreds of millions or billions of dollars. And number three, as I mentioned, they had the highest securities portfolio as a percentage of total assets of any bank. And so they ended up with their investment strategy. They were particularly vulnerable to this interest rate risk as I mentioned for a year they didn't even have a risk officer. They didn't hedge significantly against this risk. And so their behavior invited this. Now there is a risk of other particularly mid sized banks facing a run on the bank. And so we don't want that any bank is potentially vulnerable to a run of the bank. We want people to have confidence in our banking system. But you asked about the moral hazard. Will others behave recklessly because of this? And I think the odds are quite high. Now a second element that was created is what's called a Fed emergency lending facility. It's also known as a 13, 3 facility because that's where the authority appears in the Federal Reserve act, in which case the Fed said they will loan money for a year to back up long term government debt and they will value that money not at its current market value, but at its original purchase price. That's yet another bailout. I mean, let's be clear, that is billions and billions of cash that is on the hook to go out from the Fed. And it really is striking. Look, we could have a reasonable public policy debate listening to economists examining what needs to be done to ensure stability in the banking system, but the Biden administration didn't want that reasonable debate. It didn't want the input of Congress. It didn't want the public to have any say in it. It just wanted political cronies to make that decision. And I think that is a very, very dangerous dynamic.
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Yeah, it is concerning and it seems like the new policy of the Biden administration is be a woke bank and support and advocate and give donations to WOKE ideology and we'll back you up no matter what. And if that's what they're going to do for the next two years, that's going to be very concerning and should be an issue moving into the next presidential election. No doubt about that. I want to talk also about China and really what's happening with climate change and with regulations. There are a couple of different Biden administration clips that have emerged recently highlighting just how much the Democrats are in bed and idolizing the Chinese Communist Party. These were moments that when you hear them, you're kind of in shock because you've got the Biden administration officials who are actually saying that they think China is amazing. You have Jennifer Granholm, you also have another individual with the Biden administration and here's a montage of what they've been saying.
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We're hopeful that, you know, we can all learn from what China is doing. But the amount of money that they're.
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Investing in clean energy is actually, you know, encouraging. The United States does not seek to decouple from China.
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We enjoy trade with China, and that will. It should continue. So this isn't about.
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This isn't about decoupling. Now, that's not the only Democrats that seem to be idolizing the Biden administration or, excuse me, China. From the Biden team, you have former speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi, who also came out saying this about China. But here's the thing. You can't just go after China with a cudgel. You have to. We have to live on this planet together. How can we work together to save the planet from climate change? They're essential in that discussion. How can we try to work together with them on issues where we can find common ground? Senator, China, just so people understand this, they're one of the biggest, if not the biggest polluting industrialized nation in the world. They don't ever play by the rules that we are, that these Democrats are trying to force us to play by. And not only are the Chinese laughing at us on all of our global warming issues that are just stifling our economy and manufacturing, but they're making money off of these bad policies and polluting at record levels that we've never seen before. And now you've got Democrats praising them.
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You know, it really is striking that in the same week that the Biden administration does a bailout for their politically connected friends in tech, including billions of dollars of a bailout for Chinese tech companies and Chinese investors, that you have a coordinated pivot from the Democrats to embrace China. Those three clips you played, the first one was from Jennifer Granholm, the Energy Secretary. The second one was from Gina Raimondo, the Commerce Secretary. And the third one was from Nancy Pelosi, the former speaker of the House. All of them are saying almost exactly the same thing. They're all saying, we've got to work with China as our partner in fighting climate change. Now, those are the talking points. And I will give Democrats credit. Democrats have incredible message discipline. The fact that you see all three of them saying almost word for word the same thing is clear. They got a message. They're sticking to it. It just so happens the message is laughably absurd. So never mind all the human rights abuses, the torture, the murder, the genocide, the concentration camps. Never mind the culpability for Covid and millions of lives lost and trillions in damage done to the global economy. Never mind the intellectual property theft that China pursues as a business, as a state Policy. Set all that aside. Just focus on the environment. Communist China is the single biggest polluter on the face of the planet. Year after year after year it's the biggest pollution polluter on the face of the planet. But wait, Ben, you might say Nancy Pelosi just says they're doing great things on the environment. Let me read you an amazing statistic. China right now is in the process of building more new coal capacity than all of the existing US Coal plants combined. I want you to pause and think about that for a second. So US capacity right now we have 198 gigawatts of coal fired electricity generation capacity. That's of the end of 2022, 198 gigawatts. How much do you think China is building, has planned and is building right now?
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No clue.
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So it has 115 gigawatts under construction and it has another 250 gigawatts planned. So all told, that is 365. It is nearly double the current US capacity. That's what they are building and planning right now. And these plants are designed to last 40 years or longer. And so to watch the Democrats pivot in. Look, this has nothing to do with the environment. We've talked before about how today's Democrat Party is structurally pro China. Why? Because they're major stakeholders. Big tech, big business, big universities, big Hollywood. All of them are in bed with China. And so when you have Pelosi and the democrats reading the CCP's talking points about how great they are on the environment, it is both deeply dishonest and laughably absurd.
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One other thing, on China, you look at this moment and in history, I think this is going to go down as an extremely pivotal moment because it's not just this administration basically fanboying, boying over China and and rewriting history of what China's doing on climate change. But they're also allowing for China to really take advantage of what's happening with Russia and Ukraine. You combine these two things together. On top of what they're doing with tick tock and spying and what they've been able to do with just stealing anything they can get their hands on through hacking in this country and stealing trade secrets. The list goes on and on. Before we go through that, I want to tell people about Patriot Mobile real quick. Patriot Mobile is the only Christian conservative cell phone company in the US and if you're sick and tired of woke companies that you pay money to every month and then they actually go against your values, you've got an option now in the cell phone industry, you can actually switch to Patriot Mobile and it's easy. You can keep your same cell phone number. You can keep your same cell phone or switch to a new phone. Maybe you want to upgrade. You can do that. The other great thing about Patriot Mobile is when you pay your bill every month, they take a portion of that bill and they give it back to conservative causes and organizations that actually stand for what we believe in. We're talking about first and second Amendment right organizations standing up for the rights of unborn children and even helping people with adoptions. If you're ready to have a company stand with you and what you believe in, you're going to have a cell phone anyway. You might as well support what you believe in when you pay your bill. Call them 878-PATRIOT. That's 878-PATRIOT. 878-PATRIOT. Use the promo code. Verdict. You'll get the best deals of the day. Patriot mobile.com verdict now senator, this administration so far, and correct me if I'm wrong, has still to date, not one time stood up to China on any significant issue. I would even say probably any basic, basic issue. What is the reasoning behind them being so obsessed with allowing China to just continue to grow, do whatever they want to do, and putting Americans second to China in this policy?
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Well, number one, that's been Joe Biden's policy his entire life. He has been an advocate on behalf of China for decades. If you remember the video of him saying, come on, man, China's our friend. Come on, man. He has been arguing that for a long time. Number two, by the way, he's also been perfectly happy to be personally enriched and for his family to be personally enriched because as we've talked about at length on this podcast, Hunter Biden made millions of dollars monetizing his father's political connections, and that included, as we know from the Hunter Biden laptop, 10% for the big guy for Joe Biden himself. So he's had a personal financial stake in doing business with China for a long time. But number three is the structural reality of the Democrat Party today. They're not willing to stand up to China because the people who fund them depend upon China. The people who form the core of the Democrat Party today are deeply intertwined with China. And actually the Silicon Valley bank situation illustrates that perfectly. Biden was all too eager to bail out his buddies in tech, but in doing so, he's providing billions in bailouts for China as well. And that's because the two are deeply intertwined I'll point out on top of that, if you say, well, wait a second, isn't that an exaggeration? In the last Congress, I forced a vote on the Senate floor on my amendment that said the federal government should be prohibited from buying electric vehicles or batteries manufactured using slave labor in concentration camps in China. You would think this would be an easy vote. You would think this would be 100 to nothing. Every single Democrat except one, every Democrat except Joe Manchin voted no. And that is a structural dynamic of how today's Democrat Party is organized.
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Yeah, it's certainly not looking out for the American people first and foremost. And we're seeing that whether it's the bank, whether it's China, whether it's climate change. The list goes on and on. Senator, always a pleasure. Don't forget, if you're listening, we do this show three days a week. So make sure you hit that subscribe and or the auto download button so you get each and every episode. When we're dealing with what's really happening in Washington, with what's happening with the banks right now, you won't get this anywhere else. So make sure you subscribe, hit that auto download button and run us to five star review. It helps us reach a lot of new listeners. When you do that. It matters a whole lot and how they rate podcasts. So if you'll please write us a five star review as well, we'd greatly appreciate that and we'll see you back here in a couple of days.
Summary of "Don't Call It A 'Bailout', But It's a Massive Big Tech & China Bailout" - The 47 Morning Update with Ben Ferguson
Release Date: March 15, 2023
Host/Author: Premiere Networks
Title: Don't Call It A "Bailout", But It's a Massive Big Tech & China Bailout
In this episode of The 47 Morning Update, host Ben Ferguson engages in a profound discussion with Senator Ted Cruz regarding the recent collapse of Silicon Valley Bank (SVB) and its broader implications for the American banking system, politics, and international relations, particularly with China. The conversation delves into the nature of the government's response, labeling it as a bailout, and examines the intertwined relationships between big tech, venture capital firms, and political entities.
Initial Reactions and Market Impact
The episode opens with concerns from Americans about the stability of their banks following the significant failure of Silicon Valley Bank (SVB), which was among the top three bank failures of Senator Cruz's career.
Senator Cruz's Analysis (00:32 - 01:27)
Senator Cruz outlines the chaos in the financial markets, highlighting the failure of SVB as the 16th largest bank in the U.S. with $210 billion in assets. He asserts that the collapse has shaken the tech industry's financing and venture capital landscape, posing risks to mid-sized banks. He criticizes the Biden administration's swift move to intervene, describing it as a bailout that favors politically connected entities, potentially setting a precedent for future misconduct by other banks.
Is It a Bailout? (01:27 - 01:48)
The discussion pivots to whether the government's intervention constitutes a bailout. While the administration denies it, Cruz firmly believes it is indeed a bailout, with taxpayers bearing the burden indirectly.
Defining the Bailout (01:48 - 09:35)
Senator Cruz elaborates on his stance, emphasizing that the $120 billion fund, though labeled as bank-paid fees, ultimately derives from taxpayer money through taxes and consumer revenues. He criticizes the administration for not seeking Congressional approval, contrasting it with the 2008 TARP bailout which faced significant opposition. Cruz underscores that SVB's clientele primarily consisted of large, politically connected firms with deposits exceeding the $250,000 FDIC insurance limit. He cites examples such as Circle, Roku, BlockFi, Roblox, and Buzzfeed, all of which held substantial uninsured deposits at SVB.
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“This is 100% a bailout. And the Biden administration is spinning like crazy trying to pretend that it's not what they are arguing that the money... comes from you and me.”
— Senator Ted Cruz [01:48]
Senator Cruz on SVB's Practices (09:35 - 15:44)
Cruz criticizes SVB's lack of proper risk management, noting the absence of a chief risk management officer and inadequate hedging against interest rate risks. He points out that hours before the bank's shutdown, SVB issued substantial bonuses to employees and that top executives sold large amounts of stock, indicating possible corrupt intent.
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“Both of those indicate corrupt intent. I'll tell you, I had a conference call in the last 48 hours with, with all 100 senators... 'look, is it true that they gave bonuses to their employees?'"
— Senator Ted Cruz [11:48]
He emphasizes that the bailout favored depositors with large sums, including Chinese companies, rather than safeguarding smaller depositors or shareholders. This selective rescue, Cruz argues, creates moral hazard, encouraging reckless behavior among banks who might expect future bailouts if aligned with political interests.
Government Oversight and Accountability (15:44 - 18:59)
The conversation shifts to the role of the San Francisco Fed in supervising SVB. Cruz questions the lack of accountability and effectiveness of regulators, suggesting that the Biden administration's oversight was inadequate. He anticipates that the House will hold regulators accountable, criticizing the administration for prioritizing politically connected banks over broader financial stability.
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“This is like Bonnie and Clyde. They're, they're robbing the bank as they know their customers. Deposits are about to get blown up.”
— Senator Ted Cruz [11:48]
Contagion Risks and Moral Hazard (22:27 - 28:44)
Cruz acknowledges the possibility of other banks experiencing similar collapses but notes that SVB's unique concentration in the tech and venture capital sectors made it exceptionally vulnerable. He warns that the government's intervention without proper oversight sets a dangerous precedent, potentially encouraging other banks to engage in risky behavior under the assumption of government support.
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“It is a bailout that was done with no authorization from Congress. You know, you think back to the financial crisis that we saw in 2008... Biden administration asleep at the wheel.”
— Senator Ted Cruz [09:35]
Federal Reserve's Emergency Lending Facility
Cruz criticizes the Federal Reserve's establishment of an emergency lending facility (13, 3 facility) that allows the Fed to loan money to back up long-term government debt at original purchase prices, labeling it another form of bailout that burdens taxpayers with significant financial obligations.
Democratic Policies and China Relations (28:44 - 39:17)
The discussion extends to the Biden administration's stance on China, particularly regarding climate change and economic policies. Cruz argues that Democrats are overly accommodating to China, ignoring critical issues such as intellectual property theft, human rights abuses, and environmental degradation. He highlights recent statements from Democratic figures like Jennifer Granholm and Nancy Pelosi, accusing them of idolizing China's environmental policies despite its status as the world's largest polluter.
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“They didn't think Congress had anything to say at all. They just announced it. We're giving away money.”
— Senator Ted Cruz [09:35]
Cruz contends that the Democratic Party's structural alignment with China through big tech, universities, and other sectors compromises America's interests. He underscores the hypocrisy in promoting China as a partner in combating climate change while allowing it to expand its coal capacity and continue harmful practices.
Biden Administration's Long-Term Policy Towards China
Cruz attributes President Biden's lenient policies toward China to personal financial interests and the Democratic Party's reliance on Chinese investments. He cites the inability of Democrats to pass measures against China's use of slave labor in manufacturing, illustrating the party's deep ties with Chinese stakeholders.
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“Hunter Biden made millions of dollars monetizing his father's political connections...”
— Senator Ted Cruz [37:06]
Senator Ted Cruz provides a critical examination of the Biden administration's handling of the Silicon Valley Bank collapse, framing it as a politically motivated bailout that favors large, connected entities at the expense of broader economic stability. He highlights systemic issues within banking regulation, the moral hazards introduced by selective bailouts, and the problematic relationship between the Democratic Party and China. Cruz calls for greater accountability and a reassessment of policies that undermine the integrity of the American banking system and national interests.
Notable Quotes:
“This is 100% a bailout. And the Biden administration is spinning like crazy trying to pretend that it's not what they are arguing that the money... comes from you and me.”
— Senator Ted Cruz [01:48]
“This is like Bonnie and Clyde. They're, they're robbing the bank as they know their customers. Deposits are about to get blown up.”
— Senator Ted Cruz [11:48]
“Hunter Biden made millions of dollars monetizing his father's political connections...”
— Senator Ted Cruz [37:06]
This comprehensive summary encapsulates the key discussions and insights shared by Senator Ted Cruz and Ben Ferguson regarding the SVB collapse, governmental interventions, and the broader political and economic ramifications involving big tech and China.