← The 47 Morning Update with Ben Ferguson
The 47 Morning Update with Ben Ferguson
Drip...Drip...Drip-Joe Biden's "Money Guy" is Likely the Next Witness to Biden Corruption
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Ted Cruz
Welcome. It is Verdict with Senator Ted Cruz. Ben Ferguson with you. We've got a lot to unpack for you today. Let's talk about James Comer. Senator James Comer has now come out saying he is going to release more Biden family bank records this week. It is something that he actually talked about on this show in that two part series that we did. He predicted it back in June with us that he believed that these bank records and these newly subpoenaed Biden bank records would show the family accepted up to $30 million from its foreign business dealings. Your thoughts now knowing that more is coming out this week?
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Ben Ferguson
Well, the facts that keep coming out keep getting worse and worse. The evidence keeps getting worse and worse. And listen, what's frustrating is it's very hard to know what's actually coming out on this because the corporate media by and large won't cover it. Other than cbs, CBS has been the lone one to break and to cover it a little bit. And beyond that, look, Fox News Newsmax, Oan they cover it? But when they cover it, they cover it for two, three, four minutes. So you get a little snippet, you get a little interview with James Comer, but you don't actually get the deep dive into the substance. And so one of the very important roles this podcast is trying to play is to give you the information in real time as it breaks. And so every week there's new evidence and the new evidence keeps piling on top of the previous evidence. And the evidence right now is overwhelming. Number one, that Hunter Biden's entire business was selling favors from Daddy, that he made millions of dollars selling favors from Daddy, that he sold them to really shady foreign players, to Ukrainians, to Russians, to Chinese Communists. It seemed the shadier they were, the better. And the evidence that keeps growing and growing is this was not just one ne'er do well son who was off grifting, but this was a grift on behalf of Daddy. And that's the piece the corporate media does not want anyone to know is Joe Biden's direct complicity in it. And so you noted we had James Comer, we had Jim Jordan on this podcast for two different podcasts. We did a deep dive into Jim Jordan's investigations in the house. Then we had James Comer on this podcast again for two full podcasts to do a deep dive into Comer's investigation. And the evidence keeps coming. And as it, as it rolls out, we're going to cover it in real time based on the facts.
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Ted Cruz
One of the things that James Comer said, he said on FOX earlier today about more people that are going to be coming before his committee. And this could be a big problem for the Biden family because everyone that seems to be coming forward is letting it fly. It's like they've got a lot to say. They want to get a lock off their chest. They're sick and tired of being held basically captive to what they know. And when they come before his committee, they're telling the facts about the Biden crime family and what happened. Here's part of what he said.
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Ben Ferguson
Congressman, I've heard you say on several occasions this is the beginning. You've essentially just begun the deposition phase, starting with Devin Archer. There are a lot of other characters in this Eric Schwerin, Hunter Biden himself. Can you give us some, some expectation of what's to come with the deposition phase?
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James Comer
Yeah, well, we have other people like Devin Archer who were in business, so to speak, with Hunter Biden, I hate to say in business because they didn't have a legitimate business. Their business was influence pedaling. And that's what Devin Archer testified in the, in the transcribed interview. They were simply selling the brand, which was Joe Biden. This is what Devin Archer said. They got paid because people needed access to the federal government and they knew that Hunter Biden was Joe Biden's son. And if they needed something, and they always did need something, because every one of these entities that were paying the Bidens the millions and millions of dollars, they were people with issues in their country. They were under investigation for corruption. Many of them, they were crooks, so to speak. So we're going to bring in additional people. There are about five or six people that, whose names were also on these shell companies, these fake companies that the Bidens were using to launder money from these foreign nationals. Remember, the process involved a foreign country, a foreign national wiring money to a fake company. Then the fake company would then turn around and wire the money to the Biden family members. They did this to hide the source of the revenue because they weren't supposed to get money from, from many of these countries. And secondly, they did it to hide from the IRS so they wouldn't have to pay taxes. I mean, the number of laws that have been broken by the Biden family is staggering. And what we saw last week in the transcribed interview, Joe Biden, you all along who they were getting money from and why.
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Ted Cruz
Real quick, you hear him describe it this way. He's not mincing words. He's not holding Back he's saying this is money laundering. This is. This is bank accounts set up with fake companies that didn't do anything but just money launder. And James Comer, you've known him for a while. We had him on the show. He seems to be even more blunt now than he's ever been after seeing more and more evidence.
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Ben Ferguson
Well, look, Comer comes from a banking background and a business background, and so he understands the shell games that are being played here. The shell corporations that were established that were designed for one purpose, to hide the transfer of money to engage in money laundering. And as he pointed out, this is criminal activity. This is money laundering. And this was designed, number one, to hide that Joe Biden and the entire extended Biden family, including damn near Fluffy the dog. And by the way to the fact checker, Fluffy the dog is hyperbole. But the son is not. The brother is not. The grandkids are not like every other damn family member is not. But Fluffy the dog. We still don't yet have evidence that Fluffy got a check that was part of it is hide that the Biden family was on the take from foreign business entities and corrupt foreign business entities who are hostile to America. That was number one. But number two, to hide it from the irs. And listen, that's one of the reasons why we had two senior career IRS officials come in as whistleblowers. In any ordinary scenario, the press would be lighting their hair on fire that you have two career IRS employees who come in and say, there's corruption in this investigation. They're hiding it to protect the politically well connected son of the President. If this were not a Democrat White House where the press want nobody to know about it, they'd be going nuts about it. But, you know, I will say one thing. Comer said. He said, listen, Hunter's business was selling access. I actually think the evidence we've seen so far is even stronger than that. It's not just selling access. Let's be clear. Hunter Biden was not simply a lobbyist. There are a lot of people in Washington, it's kind of a scuzzy town in many respects, but who sell access. That, that is not an uncommon profession to sell access. But Hunter was selling something bigger than that. He was selling official favors, official favors from Joe Biden as Vice President of the United States and presumably now as President of the United States. And he was selling protection against official retribution from his father. Go back to the WhatsApp encrypted texts that that was allegedly sent by Hunter saying, I'm sitting here next to my father, and if you don't pay me $5 million, my father is going to come after you. That's not selling access. That's a shakedown. Soliciting a bribe to avoid official government retribution. Burisma. When they had Victor Shokin, the prosecutor, investigating the Ukrainian oligarch who owned Barisma, he puts Hunter Biden on the, on the board for $83,000 a month, a million dollars a year. It wasn't just access. It wasn't just, hey, we want to pal around with, with Joe Biden and get to go to the White House Easter egg roll. No, it was very specific. It was, can you get Shokin, the prosecutor, off our back? And as we've talked about, for bribery, you need a quid pro quo. There is zero dispute that there was a quo that Joe Biden engaged in official action to get Victor Shokin, the prosecutor, fired, who was investigating the corrupt oligarch who owned Barisma. Why is there zero dispute? Because Joe Biden admitted it on frigging television. He admitted it in an interview, was proud of it. It's the famed son of a bitch admission. That's half a bribery quid pro quo. This for that. The. That is undisputed that Joe Biden engaged in official action. The only thing that has not been conclusively proven is the quid. Did Barisma, did the oligarch pay Joe Biden and Hunter Biden $5 million a piece in exchange for that official action? If yes, then Joe Biden's guilty of bribery and he should not only be impeached or removed from office, he should be prosecuted, convicted, and go to jail. Bribery, taking millions of dollars from a foreign national exchange for government action is a grave, grave felony and a grave offense. And so I believe what Hunter was selling was much more than access. Let's shift to something else, though. That comer said there, you know, he was asked about what's next. And one of the things I want verdict listeners to know is one of the things that I think is going to be next is a guy named Eric Schwerin. So we've seen Devin Archer. A lot of us been talking about Devin Archer. Actually, no one in the corporate media has. But. But anyone following what's happening knows that Devon Archer was a partner of Hunter Biden and he testified as to Joe Biden's over 20 times, being put on the phone with Hunter's business associates, showing up at dinners with those business associates, foreign business associates in Washington D.C. at Cafe Milano, even though The Biden campaign had lied about that and flat out denied it happened. Yeah, well, I think the next big, big witness is likely to be Eric Schwerin. Now, who is Eric Schwerin? Eric Schwerin is another one of Hunter's partners. Eric Schwerin was the founding partner and managing director of Hunter's now dissolved firm, Rosemont Seneca Partners and Schwerin. We know that Schwerin visited the Obama White House and then Vice President Biden's residence at least 36 times between 2009 and 2016. We also know that Schwerin got an appointment from Barack Obama to the Commission for the Preservation of America's Heritage Abroad. We also know that the number of Schwerin's visits to the White House could be a lot higher than 36. 36 is the minimum because there's an exception under what the White House calls its voluntary disclosure policy for purely personal guests. And what did Eric Schwerin do? Eric Schwerin handled the Biden family's personal finances. And this is what's critical. Devin Archer. What Archer did is he was basically the deal guy. He was the one implementing deals. What Schwerin did. Schwerin was the money guy. Schwerin was in charge of the money, the finances for the Biden family. And so Devin Archer could testify. Hey, the deals that. That Hunter had with. With foreign. Foreign players and corrupt foreign players. Joe Biden was actively involved. And. And Eric Schwerin, I think, is critically important for following the money. Now, we don't know if Schwerin will testify. We don't know if he will tell the truth. But. But I think. I think the odds are significant that Schwearin is likely to be one of the very next witnesses teed up for deposition.
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Ted Cruz
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Ben Ferguson
Let me just stop you on that.
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Ted Cruz
Yeah.
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Ben Ferguson
Listening to you go through that litany is one of the most frigging ridiculous things I've ever heard in my life. If you told me this was the plot for the next season of Days of Our Lives. This was a soap opera about a corrupt politician who like, has payments to his son, his brother, his son's mistress, his, his son's widow, his grandkids, his sister, his dog Fluffy. I keep, I keep putting Fluffy into this. That's really not fair. Like, if you told me, if you told me that were the plot of a soap opera, I'd say, God, that's why I can't stand soap operas. They're just so ridiculous. This is not a soap opera. This is real life. And, and at this point, none of what you're saying is disputed on the facts. That's just stunning. And by the way, let me make a second point. You want to know why Schwerin is particularly dangerous to Joe Biden and Hunter Biden? It's because Schwerin was deeply involved in money and the personal finances for the Biden family. So for example, let me, let me recount some emails. So Schwerin, Schwerin, he, he handled book deal request for Joe Biden. He worked on Joe Biden's tax returns and he managed bill payments between the father and son. So for example, I'm going to quote, this is a text, this is an email that swear and wrote to Hunter on April 9, 2010, quote, Sorry, too much indecision. And I was dealing all afternoon with JRB's taxes. JRB is Joseph Robinette Biden's, now the President of the United States. Parentheses but solved a big issue. So it was all worth it. So that's what Schwerin was wrote on April 9, 2010. How about June 10, 2010? Quote, your dad's Delaware tax refund check came today. This is what Schwerin tells Hunter in email. Quote, I am depositing it in his account and writing a check in that amount back to you since he owes it to you. Don't think I need to run it by him. But if you want to, go ahead. If not, I will deposit it tomorrow. So what's swearing saying? He number one, gets Joe Biden's tax return. He, number two, has the ability to deposit it in Joe Biden's personal account. He, number three, has the ability to write a check from Joe Biden's personal account to Hunter. He, number four, allegedly knows that Joe Biden owes that money to Hunter. And he, number five, feels confident enough Shuffling around the money of the Biden family that he doesn't need to run it by Joe. I'm going to take the tax return and write it to you. Hunter, by the way, here's another. Here's another one from July 6, 2010. Quote, your dad just called me about his mortgage and mentioned he'd be out a lot soon and not really back until Labor Day. So it dawned on me it might be a good time. Also, he could use some positive news about his future earnings potential.
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Ted Cruz
Wow.
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Ben Ferguson
On December 9, 2016, Schwerin demanded that Hunter refill his bank account in order to pay for an array of forthcoming auto pay bills, including an AT&T bill in the amount of $190 for JRB, which is Joseph Robinette Biden swearing was. I mean, let me ask you, look, Ben, you're a grown man. You have a wife, you have kids. Is there anybody that has the ability to deposit your tax return in your bank account, to write checks to your son, to do it without asking you, just to shuffle money around that has complete power of attorney like you're an idiot. Idiot person in a mental institution where someone else just handles all your finances?
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Ted Cruz
Yeah. Hard.
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Ben Ferguson
No, like, like, holy. Like, there ain't nobody who does that. Like, if, if I want to write a check, I'm writing it. Or Heidi's right, it. Like, like, like there's not a third person who's writing checks on our bank account. That's who Schwerin is. Let me ask you this. How nervous do you think the Bidens are about Schwerin testifying in the House?
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Ted Cruz
I would say they're terrified. They're going to do everything they can to stop it. And how do I know that? I'm going to. I'm going to brag on. On what we do here on the show a little bit. One of the media reports today, this is the exact quote it said. Speaking on the Verdict with Ted Cruz podcast, James Comer said the Biden family business caused six banks to flag more than 170 large quote, unquote, amounts of money and suspicious activity reports known as SARS to the treasury for review. 20 more than previously known, SARs often contain evidence of potential criminal activities such as money laundering and fraud, according to a 2020 Senate report. Quote, this is again from our podcast here we have more bank records coming in, going to exceed 10 million this week. And I think we will get between 20 to 30 million. Comer predicted. Comer believes the Biden family opened up more than 20 shell companies. He said that on this show to hide payments and launder money. When you set up a bunch of shell companies for the sole purpose to launder money, that is called racketeering, he said. And the guy who knows apparently where all that money was going is the money guy that you're talking about right now.
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Ben Ferguson
So, Ben, let me ask you. What is an innocent explanation for Joe Biden and hunter Biden creating 20 shell corporations to funnel millions of dollars from foreign entities? I mean, give me something that is not corrupt, that is not taking bribes from bad guys.
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Ted Cruz
And here's the thing. I honestly can't think of one. Because when you set up an llc, I've done it. I'm assuming you have in your life. You set it up for the reason.
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Ben Ferguson
No, I actually haven't.
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Ted Cruz
Okay, so I have not. So as a small business owner, I set up an LLC years ago. Right? That's what you do. You meet with an attorney, you set it up. You make sure everything's right. Now, that's when you have a real company and a real business and a real brand and an actual product.
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Ben Ferguson
Like for example, Ben. For example, Ben, you've got a barbecue restaurant, you sell barbecue. You own a gun store, you sell guns. Those are actual businesses. You have employees, right?
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Ted Cruz
Yeah, but I can't imagine you have.
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Ben Ferguson
Products you're selling like barbecue. You're actually selling a hunk of meat that someone eats and you charge them for it. Guns. You sell them a firearm, they pay you like. Like those are actual going concerns. Those are businesses. One of the things that Comer told is these 20 some odd shell companies.
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Ted Cruz
They don't sell anything.
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Ben Ferguson
None of them were real businesses. If they were entrepreneurs. If Joe Biden had a bunch of laundromats. Okay, all right, fine. You could be a business person. Hunter could be a business person. The only thing Hunter Biden seems to know how to launder is money.
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Ted Cruz
Yeah, and that's illegal. Shocking. It's like if you go to these links to launder money and to have this many shell accounts and this many bank accounts and this many LLCs, it's clear that that's what you're doing. You're selling access. Because otherwise you don't go through all of that to start an llc.
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Ben Ferguson
It's more than access. It's official favors. It's more than access. It's official favors. And official favors is bribery. So selling access is sleazy. Selling favors is bribery.
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Ted Cruz
You look at this and then you add it up with what we had recently. Where The CBS reporter smacked down the Dem lawmaker for trying to. On what Devin Archer actually testified to. Right. He was saying, oh, he really wasn't the access. And she came out, she's like, no, that's wrong. That's not what the transcript. He lied on that transcript. That's not what it actually said. What he was saying at all. He was answering a question from their lawyer. You combine that now with the money and what he could have to clarify on. Is this the point now where Democrats start to worry is the Biden, Is the presidency now in trouble?
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Ben Ferguson
Look, I think Democrats are starting to get worried about that. I think the media is starting to get worried about that. I think that's one of the reasons why CBS News has been willing to start covering that. And at this point, the lies from Joe Biden are really starting to pile up. We have documented how Joe Biden lied when he said he never talked to any of Hunter's business associates. And we talked about on this podcast how magically the Biden White House changed their narrative and they changed it from he never talked to any of his business associates to he was never in business with Hunter. The reason they changed their story is because Devin Archer testified. Well, yeah, Joe talked on the phone at least 20 times to the foreign associates and showed up in person to meetings and they're like, oh, crap, we can't say he didn't talk to them. Okay, let's go to. In business. But. But here's another lie. So there are multiple aspects of the weaponization and politicization of law enforcement at play. One aspect is the defensive aspect that under Joe Biden, the Department of justice and the FBI are protecting Joe Biden or stopping the investigation of Hunter Biden from going after Hunter for the most serious crimes and putting him in jail, but more importantly, from investigating the big Guy in any way. And that's what outraged the IRS whistleblower so much. They came forward and said, look, we weren't allowed to ask about Joe Biden. We weren't allowed to get the GPS records to determine if Joe Biden was sitting next to Hunter Biden when Hunter Biden sent the. Sent the text message that said, I'm sitting here next to my father, and threatened the Chinese national with retribution if he didn't pay him $5 million. That's one aspect which, which is covering up for Joe Biden. But there's another aspect of it, which is the weaponization of law enforcement to go after Donald Trump. In more than two centuries of our nation's history, Prior to this year, we have never once prosecuted, indicted a former president. We have never once prosecuted, indicted one of the leading candidates for president. Banana republics do that. You expect some tin pot dictatorship to do that? The United States doesn't do that. Well, here in the United States, sadly, in the last six months, we've done it not once, not twice, but three times. And what has come out recently is that Biden's lied about that also. He claims he has nothing to do with his Justice Department doing everything they can to try to take out one of his leading opponents, when in fact, a source as left wing as the New York Times has laid out. It's a flat out lie. So I want you to listen first of all to Joe Biden in June saying that he's had nothing to do with DOJ going after Trump. And then I want you to listen to what the New York Times reported in April. Let's start with Biden in June.
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Ted Cruz
What do you say to Americans to.
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Kevin McCarthy
Convince them that they should trust the.
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Ted Cruz
Independence and fairness of the Justice Department when your predecessor, Donald Trump, repeatedly attacks it? Because you notice, I have never once, not one single time suggested to the.
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Ben Ferguson
Justice Department what they should do or.
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Ted Cruz
Not do relative to bringing a charge and operating character.
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Ben Ferguson
Stop right there. Listen to what he claimed in June. I've never once, not one single time suggested to the Justice Department what they should do or not do relative to bringing a charge. And it was in the context against Donald Trump. And he says, I'm honest. Now, let's contrast it to what the New York Times reported in April. Play the second half.
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Unnamed CBS Reporter
An April New York Times article titled Biden's Response to Trump's Four Ways to say no Comment. He's really good at that. Well, they have this passage buried 14 paragraphs down. They always bury the really big news way deep down, as you'll notice here. Here's the quote. He does have opinions, he being Joe Biden. In the past, Mr. Biden privately told his close circle of advisors that Mr. Trump posed a threat to democracy. And here's the big point. And he should be prosecuted for his role in the events of January 6th. He also told confident confidants that he wanted Attorney General Merrick B. Garland to stop acting like a ponderous judge and to take decisive action. That is stunning. Biden privately told aides that Trump should be prosecuted for January 6th, and he wanted Merrick Garland to take decisive action. That is an explosive allegation buried in the New York Times.
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Ted Cruz
I mean, it's in the New York Times. Yeah, they buried it, but it's in the New York Times, Senator.
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Ben Ferguson
Yeah, and let's revisit. So Biden says he's never suggested to the DOJ what they should do or not do about Trump. Here's what the New York Times reported, that Biden told his inner circle that he believed Trump was a threat to democracy and should be prosecuted. And he also said that he wanted Merrick Garland, his attorney general, to act less like a ponderous judge and more like a prosecutor. Now, miraculously, you know, much like the King of England saying, who will rid me of this troublesome cleric, Biden just said, who will rid me of this, this, this troublesome Trump? And miraculously, the word gets to Merrick Garland directly contrary to what Biden has claimed.
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Ted Cruz
Yeah, that's a great point. And it also goes back to something that you mentioned a moment ago about all these shell companies. And there's a lot of you asking the question now, is there going to be an impeachment? Kevin McCarthy went on Hannity and he had something very interesting to say about the shell companies and about this investigation. Now, before I play that, I want to tell you about our friends at Chalk. If you're a guy and you feel like you've lost a little bit of your edge, you feel like that you've just gotten complacent, you're sitting around too much, you wish you had more energy, you wish you were working out like you used to before, but it's just, you're just saying, I just feel tired. Well, guess what, you're not alone because testosterone levels have dropped off a cliff historically right now. And that is where Chalk comes in. Now, Chalk is a company that says, hey, we help real American men just like you get back the way you used to feel, picking strength and vitality over weakness and complacency. The problem is men's testosterone levels, like I said, are off a cliff historically to an all time low. They'll help you boost your testosterone levels up to 20% over 90 days. Now, I've been taking chalk choq.com for several months now and I can tell you the male Vitality stack, it works. It's manufactured right here in the US Of A. Chalk's natural herbal supplements are clinically proven to have game changing effects on your energy, your focus and your mood. So if you're sick and tired of get feeling weak and complacent and you're ready to get back to how you used to feel, go online right now to chalk choq.com use a promo code BEN for 35 off right now your order, use promo code BEN35OFF@choq.com check out the mail vitality stack center. Kevin McCarthy, the speaker of the House, he went on Hannity and he seems to really be hitting home now these shell companies and the crimes that he believes have been committed by the Biden family. And this is from the top down for the president. Take a listen.
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Kevin McCarthy
Well, I don't know of any other family that puts together in government 20 shell companies while you're the vice president of America. My family has no shell companies. I don't know of any other business in America that puts shell companies. When you what do you produce? You don't produce any products. And if you're an expert when it comes to foreign policy, why isn't it Italy or the UK or France hiring you? Why is it just Ukraine, Russia, China, Romania? And why is the then at the time advocating and putting your family members on boards that you want action in? Why are you providing these families Porsches? Why are you saying you have no saying in this business. But now we find lo and behold you've gone to dinners and after those dinners, $3.5 million flows. Why do you say you have no money from China came but now we proved it. I think there's enough proof out there that this Biden family needs to come forward and show there wasn't a pay to play. America deserves more and Americans want to know. And the one thing I will tell you is as this Congress, the people's Congress, we will follow the facts and provide it to the American public just like the Constitution tells us to do.
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Ted Cruz
Senator, you were, you were an attorney long before you were elected to Congress. If there's one thing, and I keep going back to this, you forget about the cars or the diamonds and all the stuff. And when you hear it again, it just reminds you of how insane the whole story is. It's almost unbelievable, the corruption here. But I have to go back to this point. None of what has come out recently or in the last year or two years has the Biden White House actually denied as accurate or factual. They have not come out saying there was not cars. They have not come out and said there's not 20 shell companies. They have not come out and said 9, 10, 11, 12 family members are on the take. They've not come out and said that the 2 million here and the 3 million from Russia and the 4 million from Romania and the 10 million from Burisma didn't come into Their bank accounts. They have denied none of this. And if it was, in fact not true, wouldn't that be like Politics 101? You immediately come out and you prove that that's a lie. So it undermines everything else that you're being accused of.
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Ben Ferguson
Well, you're absolutely right. And it's why, listen, Our systems right now are fundamentally corrupt. They have been taken over. They have been politicized. The hard left governs them. If we had a functioning media, they would be asking this question. You know, think about it for a second. You and I do a podcast. We do it three days a week. We have amazing listeners who are engaged and know what's going on. Why the hell is the New York Times not covering this stuff? Why is the Washington Post, go back to Nixon and Watergate, the Washington Post over and over again, Woodward and Bernstein. They covered the facts. They covered the facts. They covered the facts. Where's the Washington Post on this? They don't care about the facts. The New York Times doesn't care about the facts. CNN doesn't care about the facts. MSNBC doesn't care about the facts. What's amazing also is elected Democrats. Elected Democrats in Congress. They don't care about the facts. Look, I saw recent polling asking if Biden is guilty of taking bribes from foreign nationals, should he be impeached and removed from office? A substantial percentage of Democrats said no. Stop and think about that for a second. They're being asked, if Biden received bribes from foreign nationals in exchange for official favors, should he be removed from office? Taking a bribe is a major felony for which people serve years and decades in jail. And yet we're so polarized and politicized that Democrats don't care. And it's not. Their defense is not, he didn't do it. Their defense is it doesn't matter. This is a distraction. Who cares? And so they don't respond to the individual evidence. They don't respond to the shell companies. They don't respond to the, to the Porsches and the watches and the cars. They don't respond to the encrypted message to a Chinese national saying, my father's sitting next to me and if you don't pay me money, he's going to punish you. They don't respond to any of that. The media doesn't report on any of that. They just ignore and cover up the facts. And it's, look, if you care about truth, you really ought to be, you know what? The New York Times and Washington Post reported on virtually every Day for all four years of the Trump presidency. Russia, Russia, Russia. They reported on the damn P tape dossier, which was a lie paid for by the Hillary Clinton campaign and the dnc. It was ridiculous. It was absurd. It was absurd on its face. And they reported on it day after day after day after day. Breathlessly. They won a damn Pulitzer Prize and none of them can be bothered to actually report on the facts here. It's stunning.
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Ted Cruz
Yeah. And Devin Archer telling, you know, Tucker Carlson, this past week you talk about what was mentioned there by the speaker. I mean you have Porsches, you have diamonds. And Devin Archer even talked about. Yeah, we also got great gifts. Money laundering. Right, Right. A way to funnel money. We got great gifts from people all over the world that would just hand us these watches that were worth maybe half, you know, 50,000 to a hundred thousand.
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Ben Ferguson
What about gifts? And this is a part of the world where people give gifts.
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James Comer
Right.
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Ben Ferguson
And those gifts are a kind of non taxable payment. You could argue, you could argue. You could argue. Were there gifts?
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Ted Cruz
There were, there was, yeah. There were some birthday gifts. A watch.
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Ben Ferguson
Watch. A watch. Just Timex kind of watcher.
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James Comer
No. What was the watch?
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Ted Cruz
I believe it was a hu. Bolt.
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James Comer
A hu bolt. I'm not actually sure. I shouldn't even say that.
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Ted Cruz
But I don't know. But I know there's a birthday gift.
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James Comer
I've also been refreshed in my memory.
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Ted Cruz
Through the series of documents that have been put in.
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Ben Ferguson
Yeah. Through your testimony to the Congress.
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Ted Cruz
It might have. Might have been. Exactly.
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Ben Ferguson
So a watch like that would cost like ballpark, 50 to $100,000. Yeah. So real gift.
- [36:21]
James Comer
A real gift. Meaningful.
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Ted Cruz
If that's what we've got from him. Imagine Eric Swear and what was going on when he was visiting the Obama White House and the then Vice President's house at least 36 times that we know of on the record from 09 to 16. And we also know that the Obama administration has made it very clear they are not going to let you know about any of these. And you mentioned this earlier, any of the times that people may have come for what they refer to as personal reasons. Right. For, for, for non business reasons. The number of square en visits the White House could be much higher than 36, quote unquote, if any of the meetings fell under the voluntary disclosure policy exception of purely personal guests due to his handling of the Biden's family personal finances. So to be clear what the White House is saying, the White House saying we will not release these access records related to perhaps Purely personal guests of the first and second family, I. E. Visits that do not involve any official or political business. The Obama administration's archive website clearly states tonight. So if swearing's coming in, Senator, and talking to the Bidens or the, or, excuse me, the Obamas about their money that's coming in from all these bribes, that technically is a personal visit. Because they're not talking about government business. Right. They're not talking about political business. They're talking about their personal finances. Once the money starts flowing in from Romania and Russia and Ukraine. Well.
- [37:55]
Ben Ferguson
And according to the email, Schwerin was depositing IRS refunds and was making deposits in Joe Biden's personal bank account. Writing checks from Joe Biden's personal bank account. So it's not hard for them to say, oh, this is all personal. This is not official. So we don't know if there are dozens, if there are hundreds. We don't know how many there are because under their stated rules, they're not going to tell us and they don't feel they have to tell us. And listen, Ben, let me ask you, you're a charming guy. In your entire life, your 40 plus years on planet Earth, has anybody ever given you a 50 to $100,000 watch?
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Ted Cruz
They've never given me a 50, $100,000 anything. Like as a gift. Never. Because that doesn't happen in business. You might get like a dozen Pro V1 golf balls. Right. As a. Hey, thanks for coming to play golf. Here's a little something. You don't get 50 to $100,000 gifts unless it's money laundering.
- [38:48]
Ben Ferguson
It is. And by the way, let's make it even a little more acute. Have you ever gotten a 50 to $100,000 watch from corrupt foreign nationals who are engaged in all sorts of crooked business dealings?
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Ted Cruz
Yeah, Hard. No there as well.
- [39:04]
Ben Ferguson
But holy cow.
- [39:05]
Ted Cruz
Yeah.
- [39:07]
Ben Ferguson
I mean, I want you to seriously. And listen, one of the things that the corrupt corporate media plays on and the Democrats play on is a sense of, oh, you know, everyone does it. No, no, they don't. If you frame it at the very high abstract of access and influence peddling, then you know what? Yes. Everyone does that in Washington. There's a lot of access and influence peddling. Are there lobbyists who will go and get a meeting for someone with some government official? Yes, every day. Happens and happens on both sides of the aisle. That's fundamentally different from corrupt foreign entities paying millions of dollars to the Vice President of the United States. Now, the President of the United States in Exchange for official favors. That is massively different. And I gotta tell you, if you're thinking, well, you know, Washington's the swamp, so everyone does this. I don't know of anyone who does this. Look, my watch right now, what I wear every day is a Fitbit. That's like a hundred bucks. And it reminds me that I need to take more steps every day. Like, holy cow, who has oligarchs giving them hundred thousand dollar watches? Well, I'll tell you what, the people who have that happening, they're not on the up and up. And it's not Hunter Biden's charm. It's not that he's really fun when he's smoking crack. I have no idea how he is when he's smoking crack. But what he had to sell was what Devon Archer called the brand. And in particular, it was favors from daddy. And that's a felony.
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Ted Cruz
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