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The 47 Morning Update with Ben Ferguson
Exclusive with James Comer-ALL the Evidence of Joe Biden's Corruption (PART 1)
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Ted Cruz
Welcome. It is Verdict with Senator Ted Cruz and a very special three part series with James Comer. We are going to take you through all the financial crimes of the Biden crime family in this three part series that starts right now. Senator, this is going to be a really fun multi part series and for everyone that's watching or listening, if you're listening to this episode, we ask you to please share it everywhere. We're going to say that on the very beginning front of this on social media, this is going to be multi part series with a dear friend of yours, Congressman James Comer, who's doing unbelievable work in the House going after the Biden crime family. And I want you to introduce your good friend.
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James Comer
Well, James, welcome back to Verdict. This is your second time that you've been with us. We had you earlier this year for a two part series in which we broke down and you went through the details of the very systematic investigation you're leading in the House. We're now at the end of the year and so we're coming back for yet another multi part series to really get into the substance and a lot has been happening lately. We just had Hunter Biden defy a congressional subpoena. We just had the full House of Representatives vote to authorize formally the impeachment inquiry. You're sending your investigative team on the road. Why don't we start by. Tell us about that.
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Yeah. So obviously a lot of these people that we've asked for interviews and depositions, they're trying to use the holiday as an excuse why they can't come in and do it. So we decided we would make it more convenient on them and send our staff to depose them or interview them in their home area. So the first one we're doing is with the owner of AmeriCorps Health. And AmeriCorps Health was the healthcare company where James Biden, the president's brother, approached them because he heard they were financially distressed and said that because he's a Biden and because of his brother's contacts in the Middle east, that he could help them acquire all the capital they needed to get back on their feet from the Middle East. But they were going to have to pay Jim Biden first and they gave him $600,000. And by all accounts, Jim Biden completely defrauded AmeriCorps health. He never provided any funding or anything else. But what's ironic about this for Joe Biden, not only was that a pure example of influence peddling, Joe Biden received the last payment from AmeriCorps Health, they sent a check to Jim Biden for $200,000. The exact same day that Jim Biden received that $200,000 check from AmeriCorps Health, they wrote Joe Biden a check for the exact same amount, $200,000. So that was the first example of evidence that we found where Joe Biden directly benefited from the Biden family influence peddling scheme. So we're going to have our deposers down there talking to them about how this started and what role Joe Biden may have played and if they ever met Joe Biden and all of that. So that should be very interesting.
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Ben Ferguson
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Ted Cruz
Didn'T mention the name Hunter Biden in that story of influence peddling. That is the part that I think many Americans have maybe not understood, which is this is the entire family that's been involved in getting paid. Can you go into that a little bit more about James Biden not just Hunter?
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James Comer
Yeah, I think James Biden probably committed just as many crimes as Hunter Biden. The only reason we don't know about James Biden is. He didn't leave a laptop line around. We've been able to subpoena his bank records. And I can tell you there's a lot of questions we have for James Biden. That's why he received a subpoena. We're working with his attorney, and we hope to have him in in January. But at the end of the day, this example with AmeriCorps help sure looks like securities fraud. I mean, I don't know how else you would describe it, but obviously they deserve due process, and they're going to have due process. But we know from court records this AmeriCorps health is in federal bankruptcy court. They obviously have accused Jim Biden of a lot of things. So this is all public record. And, you know, it shows that it wasn't just Hunter Biden. This was the whole Biden family. So AmeriCorps, Jim Biden and Hunter.
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So AmeriCorps Health paid Jim Biden $600,000. As best you can tell, did Jim Biden perform any service for them, do anything of value for them?
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According to the court records, AmeriCorps Health says no, other than he went there and, you know, made all these promises that, you know, Joe Biden's contacts, they would work together and help them get all the money from the Middle East.
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But they never got any.
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This is. They never got a penny. They never got one penny. And it looks like, Senator, on Jim Biden's bank statements, they tried to say that $600,000 payment was a loan. And I think that's a very important aspect of our investigation because from the notes that the whistleblowers have turned over, we know that sometime in 2018, the Bidens figured out that the IRS was breathing down their necks. They knew that they had all these suspicious activity reports from the banks that were accusing of money laundering and having shel companies and potentially taking bribes. And they changed the way they were operating. They went from receiving wires directly through the shelves to receiving payments and calling them loans.
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I want to stop and unpack a lot of that. So we hear from the Democrats, we hear from the corrupt corporate media. There's no evidence. No evidence, no evidence, especially no evidence of Joe Biden's involvement. So I want to break down, because you had a lot of substance there on the shell companies. How many Biden shell companies did y'all uncover?
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20. And let me make sure everyone understands this. A shell company is a company with no assets and no known purpose. So the bank email that we released two weeks ago showed the bank examiner saying, you know, they got this wire from China, and he says it's an investment company, but it's an investment company with no investments. And then the account that it went through was essentially a dormant account. So there's evidence that the bank examiners. And if you look at also the suspicious activity reports, the banks knew these were shell companies. And the banks did everything they were supposed to do by notifying treasury that, wait a minute. This politically exposed family, they're getting wires from our enemies around the world. We don't know what these wires are for. And they're going through companies that have no known purpose or no asset.
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So shell companies, they're not real businesses. This is not a Dr. Dry cleaner. This is not a gas station. There are no employees. There are no paychecks. They're not a business in any sense. This is a legal entity. And it's a legal entity created to send money to. And it's what is often used for money laundering. It's what's often used to hide the source of the money. And you mentioned the suspicious activity reports. So let me ask for our listeners, what is a suspicious activity report, and how many of them were filed on the Bidens?
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A suspicious activity report is when the bank notifies the Treasury Cabinet that they believe their client may have committed a crime. Now, I want everyone to understand this. Banks don't just do this nonchalantly. Like the Washington Post tried to say, no bank wants to file a suspicious activity report center because when you do that, invites the bank examiners to come in, investigate you. And the last thing a bank wants to do is see bank examiners walk through the front door. The Bidens had 170 suspicious activity reports filed against him, which is unprecedented. I was a director of a bank for over a decade. Never has anyone received more than one or two. That. That. That was affiliated with my bank. And the fact that this family got 170 from six different banks on dozens of different accounts showed that there's something bad going on here because the banks are notifying the Treasury. I'm sorry, Treasury. We believe the vice president's family are involved in some type of fraud.
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Well, and James, let me make sure. Let me make sure I understand this. Suspicious activity reports are relatively rare. There's something that the bank files with the Treasury Department when they believe there may be evidence of criminal conduct. And if you or I or Ben went and created a shell company, a company that did nothing, that had no employees, that was not a going business. And that shell company Began getting multimillion dollar wires from China, from Russia, from Ukraine. That would be the sort of conduct that would trigger a suspicious activity report if any of us did that. Is that right?
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That's exactly right. We released an email last week that kind of showed the thought process by a bank examiner. He was communicating with his superior. And in the end they filed a suspicious activity report. And this email kind of outlines it. The bank examiner said, wait a minute, this account is pretty much dormant. We don't know what this company is. All we know is that the President's son owns it. He got a $5 million wire from China. We had to contact him to prevent a thar. We said, I'm sorry, Mr. Biden, we need to know what this wire was. And he said it was a loan. And there's like, oh, a loan from China. Well, we need the loan documentation. And he said, I don't have any, which is ridiculous. No one would loan anyone $5 million without having some type of loan documentation. So then he said, we fear this could be a bribe because we know China influences politicians through vulnerable family members. And we've seen in the news where his ex wife said he was on drugs, he was in financial trouble. We believe this could be a real national security threat. That's as serious of an email as I've ever seen from a major bank examiner.
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Yeah, look, that is very serious. And of course, CNN doesn't cover that. MSNBC doesn't cover that. Abc, cbs, NBC, the corporate media, that email doesn't exist. Now, one of the. As far as the corporate media is concerned, one of the things that you mentioned a minute ago that I want to stop and drill down on a little bit, you said early on the Biden family business, they would just get wires from overseas that were payments through these shell companies. But then there came a time when the IRS started coming after them, when they changed how they did business. And they began, instead of getting wires that were straight out payments, they began calling them loans. Explain that a little bit more about when they did that and why they would have done that.
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That change started happening somewhere mid 2018. And from 2014 to 2018, they were pretty consistent. They would, you know, after Joe Biden would meet with these people or Hunter would fly on Air Force Two, or Joe would talk to him on the phone or have lunch with them. Then money would flow through the shell companies, and then they would disperse the money through the shell companies to 10 different Biden family members once 2018 rolled in and they realized the IRS was Rolling in on them. And they knew this because the IRS was talking to them. And the Irish whistleblower notes confirmed this. They changed the way they were doing business. Then they started taking money in, some of it directly through their personal account, some of it still through shell companies, but they were calling them loans. And the reason you do this is twofold. Number one, you don't report a loan on your taxes. So theoretically, if you got $5 million wire from China and you said it was a loan, you didn't have to put that on your taxes and the IRS would never know about it. And secondly, and this is the most obvious, you don't have to pay taxes on it then if it's a loan. And that's why I always said, we're going to follow the bank records. We're going to go with the bank statements in lieu of the tax returns. Because there's nowhere on your tax return does it show you have a loan. There's a place on your tax return to show where you pay loan interest, mortgage interest, or if you loan someone money, you receive interest. But there's nowhere on your tax returns would it say a loan. So if you just got the Biden's tax returns, you would never know about $14 million that we found because they didn't report it to the IRS. They called it loans.
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So 14 million was the amount of loans you found so far?
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Yes, for Jim and Hunter Biden.
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And look, just to underscore what you said, because it's important, by calling it a loan, number one, you don't have to report it to the irs. Number two, you don't have to pay taxes to the irs. But of course, it's got to be a real loan. It can't be just fraud. And. All right, I've gotten loans over the course of my life. I've got a mortgage on my house now, the mortgage on my house, the collateral is my house. I've gotten car notes. I borrow money to buy a car. The collateral on the car note is the car. If I don't pay the payments, they take the car back. Is there any indication that Hunter or Jim Biden had any collateral? $14 million of loans. Did they own $14 million of collateral that would serve as the basis for those loans?
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Well, and I understand loans, thank God there's no loan documentation. We've asked for loan documentation. They won't produce loan documentation. It doesn't appear they had anywhere near $14 million in assets. So if you get $14 million in loans, you really need to have about 18 or $19 million in assets, because that's the way that the banking rules are. You've got to, you know, have more than enough, or you would be underwater. So, but here's the most concerning thing. Going through their bank records, they've received all this money that they call loans. There are hardly any loan repayments, any principal payments, and no interest payments.
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All right, so this goes back to 2018, principal payment. 2018, they start getting loans. They get $14 million of loans. You're saying from 2018 to 2023, that's five years. There are very, very few loan repayments at all, either principal or interest. In other words, this is some sort of magic loan that you don't need collateral for, you don't have to pay back. And it sure is helpful if you want to, say, buy a lot of crack and prostitutes if you don't have to pay the loan back. Is that. Am I being fair in characterizing that?
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That's. That's exactly right. It looked like one loan for half a million dollars to one of the Bidens. They may have paid $110,000 back with no interest. The rest of the $14 million, we can't find where they've made a single payment and not a penny of interest.
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But, by the way, do they dispute this? Does Hunter claim. No, no, I paid that back. Does Jim Biden claim. No, no, I paid that back. Or did they dispute what you're saying?
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Well, we. We're going to bring them in. You know, that's one reason we wanted to pose them. But, you know, you can look at the bank records, and there's no. There's no payments back.
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Ted Cruz
Best case scenario, how much of the millions in loans, 18 million, do you think they paid back? If you're being generous, 14 million. 14 million.
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James Comer
I mean, 110,000.
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Wow. It's, you know, good to be a Biden. So.
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And look, at what point does a loan become income? You know, I don't know. That's a question.
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Ted Cruz
What is the law?
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James Comer
Look, if the intent is to defraud the irs, if it is a fraudulent vehicle, the IRS can bring it for tax fraud. You can't, right, characterize something as a loan that is not, in fact, a loan that doesn't intend to be paid back. And I mean that, on the face of it, I got to tell you, I'd be ready to prosecute right now. Of course, I don't work at the Biden Justice Department, and so my marching orders aren't protect the big Guy. And the statute of limitations is not far from running on these two. They've already let the statute of limitations run on what Hunter did with China back in 17. And the clock is ticking now. Now, we started with your telling us your investigators are going to talk with AmeriCorps Health Company about the $600,000 that was paid to Jim Biden. And you said 200,000 went straight to Joe Biden. Did that come from AmeriCorps or did that come from AmeriCorps to Jim and then Jim to Joe? What was the path of the money?
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AmeriCorps to Jim and Jim to Joe?
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Ted Cruz
So that.
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James Comer
So the big guy is getting his the same day. The same day. So in, in Jim Biden's bank account, the day he deposited that $200,000 check, I think he had like $4,000 balance. So he went from 4,000 to 204,000. Then he writes a check for 200,000 to Joe Biden, so he goes back down to 4,000. That wasn't real hard to trace. I would challenge anyone to debate me on tracing that check.
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Ted Cruz
We talk about the loan payments, but can we talk about the total sum of money that was coming into the. The, the Biden affiliated businesses?
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Ben Ferguson
There were much bigger business deals that were done.
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Ted Cruz
And how hard is it to trace them out?
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James Comer
They're not businesses. Call them shell corporations.
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Ben Ferguson
Yeah, shell corporations.
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James Comer
Businesses do something.
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Ted Cruz
Yeah.
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James Comer
These are just bank accounts to park money.
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Right. And a lot of these shells had multiple bank accounts. That's what's taken so long to get the, the bank records in. We find more bank accounts. I mean, we're always finding more bank accounts and more accounts. But, you know, we've identified $24 million that we don't think they can explain what they did. There's more. We know where it is. But, you know, for time's sake, I mean, this is, this is just the House Oversight Committee. No one in the government has investigated this. Anytime someone got close, like the Irish whistleblowers, they were told to stand down, usually by Leslie Wolf. And can you, can you explain what.
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Ted Cruz
You mean by when they get close? You just said every time they got close, they were told to stand down. Leslie Wolf remind people of the pattern of how close they got to the Bidens and then how they were cut.
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James Comer
Off, according to the Irish whistleblowers in their notes. And everything Shapley and Ziegler have said has turned out to be true. We're seeing some of that in this recent indictment in California.
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And Shapley and Ziegler are the two IRS whistleblowers. They're career employees. They're not partisan Republicans. Indeed, you know, indeed. They're Democrats.
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Democrats.
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But they came forward because they were horrified by what they saw. And tell us what they told us.
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Well, they knew that there was money laundering, they knew there was tax evasion, they knew there was tax fraud. And they had accumulated all this evidence. Now they wanted to go in and, and raid a storage unit. They were told that there were documentation, you know, there were documents in the storage unit. And they said they also wanted to talk to Joe Biden. Well, that was the worst thing they ever said because when they mentioned Joe Biden, that's when they were told to stand down and they were taken off the case. So the IRS rolled in on them. We know from talking to people and Jim Jordan talking to people at the Department of Justice that there were different jurisdictions looking into different things the Bidens had. Because when you get a suspicious activity report, the law is the treasury notifies the appropriate investigators, you know, whether it be the IRS or whether it be the Department of Justice. So they had to be getting notification of all this stuff going on. And they were told to stand down. We know from the, from the FBI sources that Charles Grassley found that they got these Credible document, this 1023 form that said Joe Biden had been involved in a bribery scheme. And yet no one with the FBI would allow them to investigate this any further.
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Ted Cruz
So let's turn to the President now because, and I want to go through some of the lies. You go back and I think we should play that montage of Joe Biden when he was running for president saying, I made no money, I was never connected to my son, our family businesses. There was no connections to China. This is a lie. Everybody's looked at it. It's a lie. Take a listen to this.
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James Comer
How many times have you ever spoken to your son about his overseas business dealings?
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Joe Biden
I've never spoken, spoke to my son about his overseas business. I have never discussed with my son or my brother or anyone else anything having to do with their businesses, period. And what I will do is the same thing we did in our administration. There will be an absolute wall between personal and private and the government.
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James Comer
Do you stand by your statement that you did not discuss any of your son's overseas business? Yes, I stand by that.
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Ted Cruz
Congressman, you know that's a lie. I know that's a lie. The Senator knows that's a lie. But explain methodically for everyone watching and listening how we now have the facts to back up that he was lying to the American people every time he said that, every time the White House said it, every time every Democrat said it on his behalf, every surrogate on his campaign.
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James Comer
Well, when we began the investigation, the political narrative and the media narrative was that Joe Biden never met with or spoke to any of these mysterious people who were sending his family millions and millions of dollars. Now we know through pictures, text messages, emails, WhatsApp messages and depositions from Devin Archer that Joe Biden talked to all of them. We also discovered the pseudonym emails where Joe Biden was using a pseudonym, a fake name, sending emails back and forth to Eric Sherwin, who was one of the main figures in this, in this influence peddling scheme. In fact, he was like, for all practical purposes, the bookkeeper or the chief financial officer. Joe Biden also said he had a wall between the government and his son's family business dealings. There was no wall. He was communicating back and forth. There are hundreds of pseudonym emails between Joe Biden and Eric Sherwin. We believe there were. And the White House said there wasn't. The media said there wasn't. The National Archives wouldn't turn him over. And then lo and behold, some of them pop up in this recent indictment in California, some of these pseudonym emails between Joe Biden and Sherwin were brought out as evidence. So this.
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So how many fake email accounts and how many burner phones have you all found for Joe Biden?
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Well, I can't comment on the burner phone yet because we're still looking into that and triple checking some things. But with respect to the email, he's had at least three that he communicated three pseudonym emails that he used the government email for. And then he had some other pseudonyms we believe with some personal emails and some personal communication where he was, he was, they used code names like the big guy and Celtic and things like that. But clearly they were trying to hide something or they wouldn't have been using the pseudonyms. But the fact that, you know, I didn't think we would find government emails from Joe Biden to these people involved in the influence pedaling scheme. But lo and behold, there are hundreds of them. They just used a pseudonym and one reason the House voted.
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And let me ask you, James, on the fake emails, is it just a name? If you had an email kentucky man, kentuckymanmail.com you know, someone might pick a name of something. You know, Ben Ferguson, Ole Miss tennis star. Like, you know, maybe you pick that as an email. Are they signed using fake names or are they signed Ben or James or dad? How are they signed and how much on the face of it are the emails trying to obscure the identity of the sender?
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Well, they're all trying to obscure the identity of the sender. He signed different things. But you know, a lot of times the emails aren't, aren't signed, but he's communicating back and forth. And the most disturbing thing to everyone should be that Hunter was being copied, blind copied on some of these emails that where he was using pseudonyms pertaining to Ukraine at the same time he was going to. Joe Biden was going to go over there and fire Victor Shokin, the prosecutor who was, was investigating Burisma.
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Ben Ferguson
Hold on, hold on.
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Ted Cruz
I want to. That is new news to me. You just said that you had a burner email account. The president is communicating with someone without their knowledge that Hunter Biden's being blind.
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Ben Ferguson
Copied.
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Ted Cruz
Right. Because you wouldn't know that email. Which also goes back to a bigger lie. They said that if he ever talked with his son about people around his business fear it was about the weather. Right. Things. It was, it was not about business. It was, you know, oh, we're just friendly.
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James Comer
These are direct communications where the Ukraine emails talking about the weather was it like it's going to be sunny on Tuesday.
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No. And the emails weren't to Hunter. It was discussing with various members of the staff about his speech logistics and things like that. And they were copying Hunter. So these, this wasn't from a burner account. This was the government account. Joe Biden was just using a pseudonym. And the reason we know Hunter was.
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Copied on it is because this is a government account. But. But Joe Biden is using just a fake name on a government account and is using that fake name to conduct government business and is secretly blind ccing Hunter.
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Ted Cruz
He's sitting on the board of Burisma.
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James Comer
Who'S sitting on the board of Burismas and being paid $83,000 a month, who has no skills, who doesn't speak Ukrainian, who knows nothing about oil and gas but has access to Daddy. Is that all of that accurate that tried.
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And the reason we found that email, it was on the laptop. Now, remember when we started this investigation, the laptop was Russian disinformation. But in Hunter Biden's last speech he gave when he defied the congressional subpoena, he referenced the laptop a lot. So, you know, there's a lot of pieces you have to put together and it's very complicated. It's very hard to explain. This was by design. This is an organized criminal entity. There's no question about it. They knew what they were doing. The President's son is smarter than people think. It just we see all the, you know, stuff about him on drugs and stuff. This was very organized and the communications were many between Joe Biden and these various characters in these schemes, but they tried to hide it through the pseudonym.
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Ted Cruz
Congressman Comer, Senator, we're not done yet. This is part one of our series with Congressman James Comer. We have so many other financial crimes that we are going to go through. We want to ask for your help though. Make sure you share this podcast. Share it right now as we continue this conversation. Make sure you join us on Wednesday and on Wednesday we will have part two of our conversation with James Comer.