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Ted Cruz
Welcome to Verdict with Ted Cruz and part two of our three part series with James Comer talking about all of the financial crimes that the Biden crime family is now being accused of. They are on defense and the big question now is, will Hunter Biden be forced to answer questions under oath? And how much trouble has he now put the President in, especially in light of a reelection campaign? He it is part two. Make sure if you miss part one, you go back and listen. But here is what James Comer had to say about the financial crimes being committed.
Ben Shapiro
All right, so how many phone calls do we know about between Joe Biden and various international business associates of Hunter? And how many meetings do we know about between Joe Biden and various international associates of Hunter?
James Comer
Well, Devin Archer in his transcribed interview testified that there were at least 20. Now, at least 20. Could be anywhere from 20 to 100, but he said at least 20. And now we know that Joe had lunch with some of these people. We didn't know he had lunch with the Russian oligarch who had sent Hunter Biden three and a half million dollars while Joe Biden was vice president. The same Russian oligarch who, when Joe Biden became president, was the one oligarchy left off the sanctions list when Russia invaded Ukraine. So, okay, just a lot of.
Ben Shapiro
Say that again because I think it's important for our listeners and our viewers, the Democrats, the White House, the corporate media, they all say there's no evidence of corruption. No evidence of corruption and no evidence of Joe Biden's corruption. Just say what you just said again, because that is completely contrary to the talking points of the other side.
James Comer
One of the things we found out when we interviewed Devin Archer was that Joe Biden actually had lunch with the female oligarch from Russia, the former mayor of Moscow's wife, the wealthiest lady in Russia, she had sent Hunter Biden three and a half million dollars while Joe Biden was vice president. And we have no idea what the Bidens did to receive the three and a half million dollars. That's one of the questions we would ask Hunter Biden in his deposition. So we didn't know. Joe Biden act like he'd never met her. But Archer said, yeah, they had, they had a very long lunch or dinner, like several hours.
Ben Shapiro
Do we know where they had lunch or dinner? Do we know that?
James Comer
I think it was Cafe Milano, but I'm not, I'm not 100% certain. And when Joe Biden became president and when Russia invaded Ukraine, he announced sanctions against all the oligarchs in Russia, except one, the lady who had sent Hunter Biden three and a half million dollars.
Ted Cruz
And in the updated, because they've updated these sanctions throughout this war with Ukraine, have they ever then added her name to that list? Because several times they've updated and added new people to that list. Or has she been protected to date by the Biden crime family?
James Comer
She's been protected today.
Ben Shapiro
So look, there's an important thing to underscore, and we've talked about this at length on verdict. Bribery. As everyone knows, who listens to this pod requires a quid pro quo Latin for this, for that. And so you need the this, the payment, the benefit, and you need it in exchange for that. And that is typically a government either an affirmative failure or declining to do something that because of the payment, in this instance, $3.5 million from a Russian oligarch to Hunter. And again and James jump in if anything I'm saying is wrong. But there's no indication Hunter did anything of value, has any expertise in anything relating to Russia, has any services, has any skills, did anything that someone would pay three and a half million dollars for. We do know that along with the payment, this Russian oligarch has lunch or dinner with Joe Biden while he is vice president. So that is direct access, direct conversation to Joe, hey, you know, I'm giving your son three and a half billion dollars. You know, we don't know he said that, but it'd be kind of weird in the conversation that if either she or Hunter didn't tell Daddy, hey, this is the person that gave me three and a half million dollars, particularly if this is not proven, although we know the laptop makes reference with regard to China to 10% for the big guy. And to the extent that there is a pattern of Joe profiting directly off of Hunter's revenue, he would have a real reason to care about the 3.5 billion. But the thing that is new, that is connected here is that when Joe becomes president and he puts in sanctions on, on Russian oligarchs, the one person that is miraculously left off is the oligarch that gave Hunter $3.5 million. So that's a second example of a quo. We've talked quite a bit about the firing of Victor Shokin. Victor Shokin was the Ukrainian prosecutor who was investigating Burisma. The oligarch that owned Burisma paid Hunter a million dollars a year and Joe Biden got him fired. That's a quo that would, I believe, support a bribery claim. This is a second quo that could support a bribery claim, which is not listing someone for sanctions who otherwise should be listed and who would have been listed but for the payment to your family member that qualifies as bribery as well. Is what I'm saying accurate?
James Comer
It's accurate. I wish you were on the Oversight committee to help me with all this.
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Ted Cruz
I have a question for both of you. And I go back to when I was on the Bush campaign. Even as someone younger, there was a very clear warning that was given to us and it was explicit. Be careful who you meet with. Be careful about any meeting on the clock or off the clock with anybody that could be nefarious. And I remember that meeting because it was such a important line here. Is there any reason, and I want to know more about the background of this oligarch and this woman, richest woman in Russia connected directly to Vladimir Putin. You don't get the job as the mayor of Moscow without Vladimir Putin's explicit picking you and consent. And being in that world, would this be a meeting that our US government would have warned against? Like you don't meet with this type of person. You, you certainly don't do business with this Type of person. You don't take three and a half million from this type of person. I mean, would that not be some sort of conversation? That would have happened.
Ben Shapiro
Of course. Listen, this is frigging weird. This is weird. This is not something that. This is typical what people in government do. You don't run around having dinner with Russian oligarchs. That is a strange thing to do. I don't know anyone else in government. I don't know anyone else in the Senate. I don't know anyone else in the House who does that. I don't know anyone else. Getting millions of dollars from foreign countries is fricking weird. James, I'm gonna go out on a limb. Have you received millions of dollars from any foreign country?
James Comer
No, but I keep expecting the Associated Press or Washington Post to write that, but, no, I have not.
Ben Shapiro
Look, the closest I've come is I got change once at a Chinese restaurant for dinner. Yeah, like that is nuts. Who the hell. Like, it is weird. I mean, I mean, look, you know your 434 colleagues. I know my 99 colleagues, to the best of my knowledge, none of them. None other than Bob Menendez, who is under indictment. So let me set him aside. Because he's under indictment.
Ted Cruz
Yeah.
Ben Shapiro
For this. That's actually a pretty powerful point. The only person I know who did something like this is currently being prosecuted for receiving bribes because Bob Menendez, it is alleged, did government favors for Egypt, was paid tens of thousands of dollars, was paid in gold bars, and they're trying to put him in jail. Well, where is the indictment for Joe Biden? Because it's Joe Biden that's performing the government favors. And the closest analog I can find to someone who has done conduct similar to what Joe Biden did, although not as brazen, not as large scale, not as lucrative, not involving as many countries. The closest analogy is Bob Menendez to Joe Biden. And if they're indicting Bob Menendez, why on earth are they not indicting Joe? And why are they not indicting Hunter for bribery? I get the tax claims, but we've talked at length about this. At the end of the day, this is not about Hunter Biden. If his name was Hunter Smith and he was some corrupt, messed up guy with substance abuse problems, none of us would be talking about it. He would be prosecuted. He'd face consequences. But it's not his life. It's not his personal demons that matter. It is when you have the Vice President of the United States and then the President of the United States selling official favors in a corrupt way to foreign oligarchs. There is a reason the Constitution specifies bribery as a ground for impeachment.
James Comer
I agree. Well, one of the things that I wanted to get in here on the, on the tax crimes that he was indicted on, that's from his W2 from Burisma. So that, that's like the most obvious thing. He, he got a W2 from Burisma. And whether he was supposed to be on the board or not, whether it was ethical or not, it wasn't illegal for him to be on the board. He gets a W2, which, that's on the up it up. He just didn't pay taxes on it. He failed to pay taxes on the millions of dollars he got from Burisma that's listed on his W2. What he's never been pressed on are these millions of dollars in loans and all these fake write offs that he had in these show companies. I mean, he probably owes 6 or 7 million more dollars that he hasn't been prosecuted on yet. Because, because they said it's alone the most obvious.
Ben Shapiro
So James, tell us about, about the fake write offs. Because, because that's something that doesn't get discussed much.
James Comer
Yeah, well, you know, so in these shell companies, so he would wire, you know, say you got a $5 million wire, then he would wire different, you know, maybe $5 million wires to five different shell companies. And then he would take half that money and wire it to various Biden family members. He'd keep the other half in the shell and he would pay for basic living expenses and he would pay for things like prostitutes and drugs and he would write them off as a business deduction. So at the end of the day.
Ben Shapiro
Did you just say prostitutes and drugs were business deductions for Hunter Biden?
James Comer
Yes, that was, that was part of the indictment in California. That was one of things. He joined a sex club in California and paid for it out of a shell company that he claimed was his law firm, a Wasco. Now think about this. His law firm was paying his sex club membership and on his taxes. He put down that it was a golf country club membership so he could write it off.
Ben Shapiro
You know, Ben, I feel bad. When I was at a law firm, they didn't even pay for my parking. Yeah, I apparently need one hell of.
Ted Cruz
A bonus structure over there.
Ben Shapiro
Fundamentally differently.
Ted Cruz
One hell of a, of a, of a write off there.
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Ted Cruz
Go back to Joe Biden for a second and I want to play for you another montage of Joe Biden consistently saying there's nothing, there's no there, there, there's nothing wrong here. I wasn't involved. And he also says the media has investigated this and no one's found any wrongdoing. Here's the President in a montage in his own words.
Joe Biden
Every single solitary serious investigator, including your network and others have looked at this, have said there's absolutely zero basis to the accusation that I enacted anyway inappropriately or that my son did. Every major national, international and local news operations looked into it has said it's a lie. This is the President's flat line. So there's not been a scintilla of evidence pointed out anything is wrong. There's not a single solitary scintilla of evidence anywhere. There's not been one scintilla to evidence that my son ever interfered. Did I ever ask me anything that I ever got him involved in?
James Comer
Aces.
Joe Biden
I mean, come on, this is so. These guys are amazing.
James Comer
So you think that everything that happened was kosher?
Joe Biden
You know, there's not one single bit of evidence, not one little tiny bit.
Ted Cruz
Not one tiny bit of evidence. Is the President a liar based on everything that you've seen and the idea that everybody's investigated this, they found nothing. Now the news media is reporting on some of this. So they're not even backing him up anymore.
Ben Shapiro
So. And I got to say, you know, Joe Biden is particularly fond of saying there's not a scintilla of evidence. And I couldn't help thinking of my favorite movie, the Princess Bride. You keep on using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means. I'm not sure Joe knows what the word scintilla means. So let me just ask you directly, James, what is the most compelling evidence that you are aware of right now of corruption by Joe Biden?
James Comer
Well, the fact that he. We've found five payments to Joe Biden that we trace the source of the payment directly from his family's influence pedaling scheme. So when Joe Biden says that he's never benefited from his family's influence peddling scheme, that is a lie. We have $250,000. That's a quarter of a million dollars, which for the self proclaimed poorest guy in Congress, that's a lot of money. $250,000 directly to Joe Biden's back pocket from his family's influence. They want to say that was a loan repayment, which, that's a whole nother story. If you pay me back $250,000, Senator, then somewhere before you pay me back, I should have a check to you for $250,000. They don't have that. But let's, you know, I don't want.
Ben Shapiro
To get into the 250. Give us the details of the 250. When was it paid, from whom and where does it look like the money came from?
James Comer
$200,000 came from Jim Biden and Sarah Biden to Joe Biden. That money came directly from that AmeriCorps health company that was an influence peddling scheme led by Jim Biden. Okay, then $40,000 went from Jim and Sarah Biden to Joe Biden. That came from China. That was the 10% of $400,000. That was the company that Bob Alinsky said was gonna be 10% held for the big guy. They got $400,000. Wow.
Ben Shapiro
Hold on, I gotta stop you there because that's, I'm following this pretty closely. And that to me is something new. So. So I'm aware of the 10% for the big guy that was in the information on Hunter's laptop. What I was not aware of is that you now have a payment from China. And direct evidence, by the way, not circumstantial direct evidence of a 10% payment straight to Joe Biden. Is that right? Elaborate on that. Because the fact that the big guy is being paid 10%, the exact amount, the exact 10%, not 11%, not 9%, 10%. Exactly what was reflected, what Bobulinski told us, that's pretty compelling. So just explain that again. It's important not to miss this point.
James Comer
If you'll remember the WhatsApp message where Hunter Biden was shaking down the Chinese nationals, saying, we expect you to fulfill your commitment, a commitment that was made while Joe Biden was vice president. He said, my dad's sitting here beside me, and we're gonna unleash our wrath on you if you don't. Five days later, five business days later, $5 million pops into the Biden account. They immediately wire $400,000 to this shell company that was supposed to be the company that, that Joe Biden was going to be 10% owner of, according to Bobulinski. From that $400,000, they start wiring different wires to different Biden family members in different shells. This is called money laundering, and it's confusing to explain, and that's by design. But anyway, they wire money to Jim Biden from that 400,000, and he writes Joe a check for $40,000. 40,000 is 10% of 400,000 in that particular shell that Joe Biden was supposed to have a 10% ownership in. That money came directly from China. That's very damning evidence.
Ben Shapiro
How close is the time period between the WhatsApp, the $5 million payment, the $400,000 payment, and the $40,000 payment?
James Comer
I mean, a month.
Ben Shapiro
So this is all really closely compressed. This is. This is.
James Comer
And remember, you. When you transfer money to an account, you have to keep it in there at least 24 hours. So, you know, a lot of times you say, oh, there's two or three days difference. Well, maybe the bank wouldn't make it available. A lot of times when you deposit money in a bank, they'll say your funds may not be available for 24 hours or 48 hours or until next week. So they got the money to Joe about as quick as you could do it in banking terms, going through that many different accounts.
Ted Cruz
So then here's my question. We've talked about the tax issues with Hunter Biden and James Biden. I think there's some more questions there. But if all of this is happening and money is running through to the President or then vice president, what are the liabilities that we don't know about? I'm talking from a tax standpoint for the President of the United States of America. Because what we do know is there's money flowing in, then they claim its loans, and there's claiming there's repayment of loans, but we don't see the reclaimment payments. So is that a tax issue for the president? Second one I have is this. If the bank accounts, these shell companies were acting as piggy banks for Hunter Biden and the Biden crime family. We've also heard there were payments being made for things that benefited the vice president and the president through things that were done at their house, his house, home improvements, remodeling. What other benefits was President Joe Biden receiving through this money that wasn't directly coming to his bank account? And would that be a tax issue, in theory, for the President of the United States of America?
James Comer
I think so. So a lot of these shell companies had credit cards. So we got the bank account, and it'll say, all right, we spent $15,000 this month on our Citibank card or our Chase card or whatever. We have to subpoena the credit card companies and start going down these bank statements. I mean, this is stuff, this investigation, so big and so complex and so complicated. I mean, we're moving as quickly as we can for a little old congressional staff. This is stuff the IRS and the FBI and the Department of Justice are better suited to do. But we're doing the best we can. So we know from the laptop there were things Hunter Biden was paying for a value for Joe, like a new roof and a cell phone bill and things like that. But the 250,000.
Ben Shapiro
Hold on a second. Did you just say Hunter Biden paid for a new roof for Joe Biden?
James Comer
According to the laptop. According to the laptop. And remember, there's message from Hunter Biden to Hunter Biden's daughter saying, unlike Dad, I won't make you have to turn over 50% of your salary to me. So there's lots of references in the laptop where Hunter Biden was complaining about having to pay for stuff for dad, for Joe Biden. That's why we wanted to depose him. That's why we wanted. That was one of those questions.
Ben Shapiro
Let's go to the deposition. Were you surprised that Hunter defied the subpoena and refused to sit for the deposition?
James Comer
I wasn't. Because I felt like that indictment was done to protect him from this deposition.
Ben Shapiro
Really?
James Comer
You've indicted. Yes. You've indicted him for two things. The line on a gun application and his basic failure to pay taxes on his W2 income. Those are the two things that you really can't tie to Joe Biden. But the money laundering you can tie to Joe Biden. The, the, the loans, the tax evasion on that, the securities fraud, even the, even the, the problems with prostitutes and possible human trafficking and all that, you can tie that to Joe because some of that was at Joe's house. Apparently. There's lots of things that.
Ben Shapiro
Hold on a second, James. You said possible human trafficking. What, what, what is the evidence we have of that?
James Comer
There's a suspicious activity report filed against an escort service in Florida. And the suspicious activity report is on the escort service, but Hunter Biden is the subject of that suspicious activity report because he was a big customer and sending money to and from the bank notified. And this is public, not because of us. You're not supposed to leak these sufficient activity reports. But it's out there. It's out there on the Internet. I think it was in that Marco Polo report. But we, you know, it's real. And what it, what it said was the bank notify, I think it was J.P. morgan notified the treasury that we believe this. Our client is operating an escort service. And the two prostitutes that they're paying are here illegally. One from Russia, one from Ukraine. I mean, you can't make this stuff up. And we don't know if they were human trafficked. We don't know if. All we know is they're not here legally. And we're pretty sure they're engaged in prostitution, which is illegal in Florida. And they list like two or three names of people that were spending a lot of money there. And Hunter Biden was at the top of list, which is another reason they filed the sar, because they knew Russia and Ukraine, human trafficking. And at the time he was living in Joe Biden's house, they were sending the prostitutes to him. He wasn't going there. So they were sending them across state lines, which is, you know, is there.
Ben Shapiro
Evidence that they were sending the prostitutes to Joe Biden's house?
James Comer
All we know is Hunter was living there at the time. We don't know if he was going to a hotel or whatever. But I'm just telling you what J.P. morgan said. Okay. I mean.
Ben Shapiro
All right, so let me ask you about, let me ask you about the deposition. So Hunters refused to testify. What happens next in the next week? Two weeks, three weeks, four weeks? What happens next?
James Comer
Well, we're going to have to issue contempt of Congress charges. We'll run that through the oversight committee now, tell people how that works.
Ben Shapiro
What are the mechanics of what has to happen.
James Comer
I was hoping Jim Jordan would lead that through the Judiciary. But it looks like we're going to do it through the House Oversight Committee. There's a lot of paperwork that's going to have to get done. Remember, we've got a new speaker of the House, all new staff rolling in. He kept some of McCarthy staff on till the end of the year. We got new staff coming in. So we're going to try to get all this accumulated as quickly as possible and then have a committee hearing and then hopefully mark it up on the floor. But there's a lot of legwork that has to be done, a lot of documentation that has to be accumulated. And we're doing this at a time when we're shifting a lot of people in the Speaker's office. And one thing, Senator, a lot of people don't realize, I have subpoena authority, but the speaker has to sign off on it. That's something that Darrell ISS talked about and Trey Gowdy's talked about and Jason Chaffetz. But you know, for former Republican chairs, the Speaker's general counsel has to sign off on it because if it goes to court, they're the ones that represent us in court. It's the Speaker's general counsel. So there's, you know, there's some bureaucracy involved in these subpoenas. There's some bureaucracy involved in the contempt of Congress. But we plan on moving forward to that and we're working on it as we speak.
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Ted Cruz
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Podcast Title: The 47 Morning Update with Ben Ferguson
Host: Premiere Networks
Episode: Exclusive with James Comer-ALL the Evidence of Joe Biden's Corruption (PART 2)
Release Date: December 20, 2023
In the second part of a three-part series, Senator James Comer joins Ted Cruz and Ben Shapiro on the podcast to delve deeper into allegations surrounding the Biden family's financial activities. The discussion centers on various accusations of corruption involving President Joe Biden and his son, Hunter Biden. The episode critically examines the financial transactions, potential bribery, and legal implications tied to the Biden administration.
[00:01] Ted Cruz opens the discussion by highlighting the focus on financial crimes allegedly committed by the Biden family. He raises critical questions about Hunter Biden possibly being compelled to testify under oath and the ramifications these accusations may have on President Biden's reelection campaign.
Ted Cruz: "The big question now is, will Hunter Biden be forced to answer questions under oath? And how much trouble has he now put the President in, especially in light of a reelection campaign?"
[00:36] Ben Shapiro questions the extent of Joe Biden's interactions with Hunter Biden's international business associates.
Ben Shapiro: "All right, so how many phone calls do we know about between Joe Biden and various international business associates of Hunter? And how many meetings do we know about between Joe Biden and various international associates of Hunter?"
[00:49] James Comer responds by referencing an interview with Devin Archer, indicating that Joe Biden had at least 20 meetings with Hunter's associates, potentially up to 100.
James Comer: "Well, Devin Archer in his transcribed interview testified that there were at least 20. Now, at least 20. Could be anywhere from 20 to 100, but he said at least 20."
[01:25] Comer reveals that Joe Biden had lunch with a Russian oligarch who had previously sent Hunter Biden $3.5 million. This same oligarch was notably excluded from sanctions when Russia invaded Ukraine, raising suspicions about preferential treatment.
James Comer: "Joe had lunch with the Russian oligarch who had sent Hunter Biden three and a half million dollars while Joe Biden was vice president. The same Russian oligarch who, when Joe Biden became president, was the one oligarchy left off the sanctions list when Russia invaded Ukraine."
[02:30] Ben Shapiro elaborates on the implications of the financial transactions, suggesting a possible quid pro quo—implying that the $3.5 million could be seen as a bribe for Joe Biden's political favors.
Ben Shapiro: "There's no indication Hunter did anything of value... We do know that along with the payment, this Russian oligarch has lunch or dinner with Joe Biden while he is vice president. So that is direct access... That's a quo that could support a bribery claim."
[08:51] Shapiro draws parallels between Joe Biden's alleged actions and those of Senator Bob Menendez, who is under indictment for accepting bribes.
Ben Shapiro: "The closest analogy is Bob Menendez to Joe Biden. And if they're indicting Bob Menendez, why on earth are they not indicting Joe?"
[11:56] The conversation shifts to Hunter Biden's tax issues, specifically his failure to pay taxes on income earned from Burisma and suspicious financial activities involving shell companies.
James Comer: "He just didn't pay taxes on the millions of dollars he got from Burisma that's listed on his W2. What he's never been pressed on are these millions of dollars in loans and all these fake write offs that he had in these shell companies."
[12:34] Comer details how Hunter allegedly used shell companies to disguise expenditures on personal vices, including prostitutes and drugs, as business deductions.
James Comer: "He would pay for prostitutes and drugs and he would write them off as a business deduction."
[23:38] The discussion addresses Hunter Biden's refusal to testify in a deposition, leading James Comer to anticipate contempt of Congress charges.
James Comer: "We're going to have to issue contempt of Congress charges... We're planning on moving forward to that and we're working on it as we speak."
[24:34] James Comer introduces alarming allegations suggesting that Hunter Biden may be involved in human trafficking, citing a Suspicious Activity Report (SAR) filed against an escort service in Florida linked to him.
James Comer: "There's a suspicious activity report filed against an escort service in Florida... It was the bank notified that we believe this... the two prostitutes that they're paying are here illegally."
[26:20] Comer outlines the procedural steps the committee intends to take following Hunter Biden's refusal to comply with the deposition, including potential legal actions through the House Oversight Committee.
James Comer: "We're going to try to get all this accumulated as quickly as possible and then have a committee hearing and then hopefully mark it up on the floor."
Towards the end of the episode, Ted Cruz urges listeners to share the podcast series on various social media platforms, emphasizing the importance of disseminating the information discussed.
Ted Cruz: "Please share this part two and if you missed part one, go back and listen or watch it."
Extensive Meetings: Joe Biden reportedly had numerous meetings and lunches with international business associates connected to Hunter Biden, including a Russian oligarch who provided significant financial support.
Possible Bribery: The financial transactions between the oligarch and the Biden family raise questions about potential bribery and quid pro quo arrangements.
Tax Evasion and Financial Misconduct: Hunter Biden faces allegations of tax evasion and illicit financial activities through the use of shell companies to disguise personal expenditures.
Legal Challenges: Hunter Biden's refusal to testify has led to potential contempt of Congress charges, with ongoing legal maneuvers to address non-compliance.
Serious Allegations: Beyond financial misconduct, there are grave allegations linking Hunter Biden to human trafficking activities, though evidence remains circumstantial.
Comparative Analysis: The podcast draws comparisons between the Biden family's actions and those of other politicians like Bob Menendez, highlighting perceived inconsistencies in legal repercussions.
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This episode offers a comprehensive examination of the alleged financial improprieties involving the Biden family, presenting evidence and testimonies that suggest a pattern of corruption and potential legal violations. The discussions underscore the need for transparent investigations and accountability for public officials.