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The 47 Morning Update with Ben Ferguson
Illegals Being Recruited to Vote, Black Voters Dumping Biden for Trump, & Sen Cruz goes After a Communist Judicial Nominee Week in Review
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Ted Cruz
Welcome. It is Verdict with Ted Cruz, the WEEKEND Review, Ben Ferguson with you. And these are the stories that you may have missed that we talked about this week. First up, illegal immigrants in this country are actually being recruited to vote in our elections. How are they getting recruited in the same offices of our government where they come in to get financial aid from our country as illegals? We're going to break that down for you. Also, Joe Biden losing the African American community at a record number with new poll numbers showing that black voters are moving to Trump in a massive swing. Why is this happening? We're gonna break it down for you. And finally, Senator Cruz goes after one Biden judicial nominee. You do not want to miss his cross examination. It's the Weekend Review and it starts right now. There was also new details that came out about how non citizens are getting voter registration forms from across the U.S. republicans are trying to stop this. Democrats are saying no. And just to break this down so people understand, United States welfare offices as well as other government agencies under the Biden administration in in 49 different states in this country are now providing voter registration forms to illegal immigrants without requiring proof of citizenship. And Democrats, this isn't a loophole. They're exploiting it.
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Ben Ferguson
Yeah, that's exactly right. And I'll say the New York Post had an important article on this this past weekend entitled how Noncitizens are Getting Voter registration Forms across the United States and how Republicans are trying to stop it. And it describes how every state but Arizona and Arizona recently passed a law barring the practice on state but not federal forms. Every other state gives applicants for either welfare benefits, driver's licenses or in some cases mail in ballots gives them voter registration forms without demanding proof of citizenship. And there's no requirement on federal forms to provide proof of US Citizenship, although it is illegal to falsely claim one as a citizen or for a non citizen to cast a ballot. But of course, if you're not asking for proof of citizenship, I guess it's just sort of wink, wink, trust me, and we just will take it on an honor system that you're not gonna do it.
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Ted Cruz
It's also, if you think about this, if you know you're voting illegally but you're voting for the people that claim they're gonna give you amnesty and you already broke into America. It's not a far stretch center to think, of course they're going to sign up to vote because they're going to vote for the party that's about to hand them amnesty.
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Ben Ferguson
Well, of course. And that's the entire point. The reason the Democrats are allowing and actively facilitating this invasion is they want voters, and they recognize that illegal immigrants are very likely to vote Democrat, that if you're willing to break the law, if you're coming here illegally, that. That you're gonna go with the party that is inviting you to break the law and is coming showering you with benefits and looking the other way. And look, a lot of the problem stems back from a law that was passed in 1993 called the National Voter Registration act, and it was signed into law by Bill Clinton. It was also called the Motor Voter Law. And what it did is it ordered states to register voters at the Department of Motor Vehicles and also at agencies where Americans apply for public benefits. And those offices, in turn, are required by federal law to hand the registration forms along with the application papers over the federal government. And if an applicant simply attests, if they say, yep, I'm a US Citizen, that is considered valid on its face.
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Unnamed Guest
And.
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Ben Ferguson
And that person is then registered to vote. And so the challenge right now is that millions of illegal immigrants with humanitarian parole or with refugee or asylum status are eligible right now for benefits. That brings them to the offices where voter registration is taking place. So that's happening right now. Millions of these illegal immigrants are going to the offices where they're. Where the. The offices are handing them voter registration forms. And I want to pause for a second and reflect on how. How the motor voter law passed, because it had in. In. In 1992, it had passed Congress, and. And George Herbert Walker Bush had vetoed it. But then in 1993, look, elections have consequences. And when. When Bill Clinton got elected, it passed again. But I'll tell you, in the Senate, the reason it passed in the Senate. So every Democrat voted yes. So the Democrats get exactly what they're doing. All of the Democrats voted yes. Not a single Democrat voted no. But here's the problem. Six Republicans voted yes as well. So the vote in The Senate was 62 to 36. In other words, if the Republicans had voted no, they could have killed it. But just going through this, and I'm just looking down the list of the Republicans. Domenici from New Mexico voted yes. Durenberger from Minnesota voted yes. Hatfield from Oregon voted yes. Packwood from Oregon voted yes. Specter from Pennsylvania voted yes. And Jeffords from Vermont voted yes. Now, that's six Republicans. If just three of them had voted no, this bill wouldn't pass. And it's frustrating because the Democrats all get in line. They get what they're doing. They get that they are engaged in an effort to stay in power and it's not lost on them. Look, when the bill passed, it's not an accident that they put voter registration in welfare offices. Hey, if you want welfare, register to vote for the people giving you welfare. And. But why are Republicans idiots? And they go along with that. And the bill doesn't require proof of citizenship. Why is that? Because Republican senators were idiots enough to vote for it. Now, to be clear, none of those senators are still in the Senate. This was a long time ago. This was 1993. Look, I was a year out of college. I was a first year law student at the time. So those senators are gone. But it's a pattern that has happened over and over again and it's frustrating.
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Ted Cruz
So let's break this down because I think this is an important point for people to end on. It is a fact. And Democrats are really good Senator it counting. They know how many millions of illegal immigrants are in this country on humanitarian parole as refugees, asylum status. They know how many of them can go in and get different forms of government aid. And they understand that then once you're in the federal system, whether it's to get welfare benefits, a driver's license, there's a instant pathway to go, hey, here's your register to vote paperwork. And these millions of migrants that are walking in and out of government offices are now open to that. That's the reason why this is so dangerous. This isn't just a one off for a couple people or as Democrats, I describe it within the, you know, an asterisk when you're counting votes. This could be catastrophic to canceling out American voters with illegal immigrants who were literally saying fill this out, turn it in and you can vote. Even though we know we're handing them to illegal immigrants.
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Ben Ferguson
Yeah, look, that's exactly right. And the Democrats are the party of government. They've always been the party of government. They're the party of big government, they're party of high taxes, they're the party of job killing regulations. And they want, they want to make people dependent on government. They're the party of dependency. They trap people, they trap people tragically in generations of dependency. And the price that they extract, it's a little bit like a drug dealer going and preying on kids in a junior high. They're like, hey, just try this a little. Just try it a little. Just get a free sample. Just try a little. And the price if they want to keep getting their fix of what the. That the drug dealing Democrats are providing their prices. Just make sure you vote for Democrats. That, that's, that's your, your ticket to admission. Now look in the House. The House is taking up a bill called the Safeguard American Voter Eligibility act, the SAVE act, which the House Administration Committee last month passed. And this bill requires states to receive proof of citizenship whenever anyone registers to vote by mail or at a DMV office or at a welfare agency office. And here's what Mike Johnson, the Speaker of the House, said following the approval of the bill. He said, quote, as President, Biden has welcomed millions of illegal immigrants through our borders, including sophisticated criminal syndicates and foreign adversaries. It is incumbent upon Congress to implement greater enforcement measures that secure the voter registration process and ensure only American citizens decide the outcome of American elections. And yet, astonishingly, the Democrats are fighting this. So, for example, there's a left leaning operation called the Campaign Legal center that has said that the SAVE act is, quote, a shameful measure that will undermine trust in the electoral process. And they dismiss concerns about noncitizen voting by saying it hasn't taken place at any meaningful level. Quote, it is a fabrication being peddled for personal and political gain by leaders who should know better. Shameful bills like the Safeguard American Voter Eligibility act often result in eligible US Citizens being incorrectly prevented from voting or being forced to jump through additional hoops to exercise their freedom to vote. Campaign Legal center opposes this bill. But, and you know what? The Democrats are very happy to salute and follow. Follow the line. Right now, at least 19 states plus Washington D.C. allow non citizens to obtain driver's licenses. So, so in nearly half the states, you don't have to be a citizen to get a driver's license. And, and that is something that Biden supported during his presidential campaign. By the way, Biden was one of the Democrats who voted for Motor Voter. So he is just implementing the plan now from the executive side instead of the legislative side. And tragically, this pattern of amnesty and voting answers the question that I asked at the beginning of this pod. Why are Democrats willing to look the other way? Why don't they care about the people being killed? Why don't they care about the women being raped? Why don't they care about the children being assaulted? And it's because they've made a very cynical decision that staying in power is worth it. And, and if innocent people have to die, I guess that's a price they're willing to pay.
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Ted Cruz
Now, if you want to hear the rest of this conversation, you can Go back and listen to the full podcast from earlier this week. Now on to story number two. I want to also get to another story and this one actually makes me laugh. Cnn and rarely do I get to say this has been left speechless. Senator, after polling.
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Unnamed Guest
Can you just say that again?
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Ted Cruz
Yeah, right, cnn left speechless. Exactly. After polling finds Donald Trump headed for, quote, unquote, historic performance with black voters. Now, there's two parts of this that, that are, that we should just bring up at the very beginning. One, it is amazing that no one's calling out just the straight up racism aspect of this, that the, and the media just assumes that if you're black, you must support the Democratic Party. And if you don't, then you're basically in their mind, not a real black person. You're not, you're not a, a real black woman. You're not a real black mother. Right. You're not a real black father. No, no, you're, you're, you're an Uncle Tom. You can't leave the Democratic plantation to, to think for yourself because you must be a Democrat, a modern day slave. In essence, the Democratic Party. And now they can't believe that Donald Trump is headed for historic performance with African American voters saying, we don't like this. What's happening under the Biden administration. And Biden's support from black voters under the age of 50 has cratered over the last four years and they don't know what to do with this.
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Unnamed Guest
Now, look, that is exactly right. They are shocked that they come in with an assumption that anyone who is African American must support the Democrats. As Joe Biden famously or infamously said, if you're not supporting me, you ain't black. Which is just an arrogance that I think suffuses the current Democrat Party. And it's worth. Well, I'll tell you what, just listen to CNN as they're discussing these polling numbers.
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Ted Cruz
Senior data reporter Harry is with us.
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Harry (CNN Senior Data Reporter)
So where does the race stand among African American voters right now? Yeah, I keep looking for this to change, to go back to a historical norm. And it simply put, has not yet. So this is the margin or Biden and Trump among black voters. Compare we were at this point in 2020. Compare where we are now. You know, at this point. Look at this. In 2020, Joe Biden was getting 86% of the African American vote. Look at where it is now. It's 70%. That's a 16 point drop, John. And more than that, it's not just that Joe Biden is losing ground. It's that Donald Trump is gaining ground. You go from 7% single digits at this point in 2020 to now 21%. And again, John, I keep looking for signs that this is going to go back to normal and I don't see it yet in the polling. If anything, right now we're careening towards a historic performance for Republican presidential candidate the likes of which we have not seen seen in six decades.
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Ted Cruz
And when you dig into this, I love this, by the way, they're basically saying we need to go back to normal and you guys need to get back on the Democratic plantation. They're saying that on tv.
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Ben Ferguson
Yeah.
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Unnamed Guest
Look, it is not subtle who CNN is rooting for.
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Ben Ferguson
They want Joe Biden to win.
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Unnamed Guest
They want the Democrats to win. And they're, they're, they're shocked and they're terrified and they are freaking out. And listen, I think this is an incredibly important shift. I think we're seeing African American voters moving towards Republicans. I think we're seeing Hispanic voters moving towards Republicans even faster. And I think that is, it's part of the broader demographic shift we're seeing of blue collar voters that are moving towards Republicans. We're seeing the old conventional wisdom was that Republicans were the party of the rich and Democrats were the party of the poor and working class. I'm not sure that was ever true. But it is especially not true now. It has been turned on its head today. Democrats are the party of rich coastal elites. They're the party of big tech billionaires and Hollywood moguls and California environmentalist billionaires. And I think Republicans, we are the party of truck drivers and steelworkers and cops and firefighters and waiters and waitresses and everyone who works for a living and has calluses on their hands. And I think also. So there's an overlap. Listen, if you're right, now, let's say you're an Hispanic guy in South Texas and you work in the oil fields and you drive a pickup truck and you go bird hunting on the weekends, you're voting Republican. Number one, you're seeing the invasion at our southern border the Democrats have caused. But number two, the Democrats have declared war on your livelihood and way of life. And so we're seeing Hispanics moving Republicans significantly, but African Americans, we're seeing movement as well, not as rapidly. But listen, the simple reality, and I'm going to give Donald Trump credit, he went to Detroit, he went to an African American church. He made the case, he said, listen, for the black community, your lives have gotten a lot worse under Joe Biden. And the Democrats, between inflation, between crime, you look at what has happened and he made the point illegal immigration, who do you think 11 million illegal immigrants are taking jobs from? They're not taking jobs. Jake Tapper is not losing his job to an illegal immigrant. It's actually a point you remember I made in, in 2016 in the presidential where I said if you suddenly had crossing the border, a bunch of lawyers and bankers and journalists coming here to take the job of rich professionals in the media, then you would have a crisis, then they would lose their mind. But their view is, no, no, no, that's fine. To bring 11 million people in who take the job of low income workers, who take the job of the working class, who take the job of a lot of legal immigrants in the Hispanic community and take the jobs of African Americans and drive down their wages. And I think you're seeing a lot of voters. I mean, the numbers among African American voters have more than doubled. And that's got Democrats really freaked out.
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Ted Cruz
This goes back to a podcast that we did with actually your congressman Wesley Hunt.
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Ben Ferguson
Yeah.
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Ted Cruz
Where he was on the show and I would encourage people to go back and listen to it. But he discussed the bigotry of low expectations that the Democrats put on African Americans. And he says it, he said at the time, and I'm going back to this quote because I wrote it down, it's to create victims. And he was talking about how the Democratic Party has really victimized the African American community with low expectations, high crime, high poverty, and basically the government getting you addicted to poverty. And I encourage you to go back and listen to it. But that seems to be the case, in essence, that Donald Trump is now making. And Fox, by the way, when these new poll numbers came out, I want you to hear how they explained it.
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Unnamed Fox News Contributor
Listen, has Biden down nearly 30% among Black voters since the 2020 election? What's changed? Look at the economy. The optimal color is not black or brown, it's green. You hear me say that almost every day. Trump has gained 15 points in that time. Congressman James Clyburn of South Carolina, downplaying the numbers here. He says, I don't think black voters have left the fold. I don't know what is going on with the polling taking place here. How can the polls get that so wrong? That's going on all over the the country. Well, not everybody sees it that way. Political reports, prominent black Democrats are setting up alarm bells over Biden's black voter problems.
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Ted Cruz
I mean, the arrogance there. Just Clyburn, who's Saying, I don't believe this. I don't see it. I don't think this is actually happening. Right. As he said, that's not going on all over the country. How can the polls get that so wrong? It's. It's. Again, I go back to this idea and what Wesley Hunt said on the show. The Democratic Party believes they own the black community, and you cannot leave.
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Unnamed Guest
Well, listen, I would encourage listeners, go.
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Ben Ferguson
Back, as you just said, Ben, listen.
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Unnamed Guest
To the podcast we did with Wesley Hunt. And actually, that was one of the video ones we did, so you can watch it on YouTube, but also go back and listen or watch the podcast we did with Eric Johnson, the mayor of. Mayor of Dallas, who's African American, and he was elected as a Democrat mayor of Dallas. He's now become a Republican. Both with Wesley Hunt and Eric Johnson, both of them are friends of mine, we have a real discussion about how the Democrat agenda has utterly failed the African American community. And the approach of Democrats is not to provide real policy solutions, but it's instead to demagogue. Remember, Joe Biden went, I think it was in front of the naacp, if I remember correctly, where he said, they're gonna put y'all back in chains, which is ridiculous. And by the way, if you want to talk about who enslaved African Americans, the answer to that was Democrats. It was Democrats who were the party of slavery. It was Democrats who founded the Ku Klux Klan. It was Democrats who wrote the Jim Crow laws. And by the way, your and my party, the Republican Party, was founded to end slavery. That's why our party was founded. The first Republican president was Abraham Lincoln. The Democrats recorded on race issues have been horrible, and yet they demagogue and scare people. And I do think you're seeing African American voters saying, all right, enough already. Produce results. And by the way, I'll give you three issues that I think resonate powerfully in the black community. Number one, inflation in the economy. And African Americans are getting hammered by that. Number two, safety. And the combination of the invasion at our southern border, which is endangering African Americans and all Americans, but also the Democrats undermining the police. Undermining. Pushing for defunding the police, for abolishing the police, that has resulted in a lot more African Americans being murdered. And the Democrats like to say Black lives Matter. Well, their radical policies result in more African Americans being victims of murder. But number three is school choice. And as you know, school choice is the issue. I think it is the most important domestic issue in the country. It is the Civil rights issue of the 21st century. And today's Democrats are the modern day Bull Connor. They are standing at the school door saying we will not let low income students out. I believe every child in Texas and every child in America should have a right to access excellent education. And it ought to be about education, freedom, the student and your parents should decide, not bureaucrats who want to keep kids trapped.
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Ted Cruz
Finally, just to expand on this, it's not just African American voters that Biden has lost touch with. There is now new data with Hispanic voters. For example, another policy that Trump has doubled down on, mass deportations is now popular in this country. The majority of registered voters favor a new national program to deport all undocumented immigrants currently living in the U.S. illegally by 62 to 38%. That is massive. But here's you break that number down now. A majority of Hispanic senator favor mass deportations in America as well, 53 to 47. And this is another blow to Joe Biden with, quote, minority voters.
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Unnamed Guest
Well, that's right. And it is the fruits of the failures of Democrat open border policies that people are seeing the absolute disaster of. And I'll tell you, years ago I was doing a national interview with Jorge Ramos. Jorge Ramos was, of course, is the national journalist. And he accused me being, and I'm going to quote him, a traitor to my race because I believe in securing the border. And his view was as an Hispanic, I'm not allowed to support securing the border. He practically yelled on me on national television that I'm a traitor in my race. And I asked him, I said, jorge, tell me what would happen if I went illegally to Mexico? What would they do?
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Ben Ferguson
And he said, oh, they deport you.
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Unnamed Guest
And it's like, well, okay, if Mexico is allowed to enforce its laws, why is America, why are our laws less consequential? And you know, Jorge Ramos chairs the national news program on Univision. And yet the view that he characterizes as a traitor to your race is now, as you noted, according to polling number, the view of the majority of Hispanics in America as before.
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Ted Cruz
If you want to hear the rest of this conversation on this topic, you can go back and download the podcast from earlier this week to hear the entire thing. I want to get back to the big story number three of the week you may have missed. I want to move to something else and we get to cover this on this podcast. And I think it's so important and that is your interaction specifically with Biden judicial nominees. Biden has nominated a judge with ties to Communists you had a chance to have a conversation with this nominee, Carla Campbell, for literally, she worked openly with a Marxist organization. Read us into this insanity.
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Ben Ferguson
Yeah, look, we had this morning a judicial confirmation hearing with actually two Court of appeals nominees. One to the First Circuit Court of Appeals, one to the sixth Circuit Court of Appeals. They're both terrible nominees. The one to the First Circuit Court of Appeals is a judge in Maine who repeatedly has given incredibly soft and lenient sentences to vicious criminals. There was one guy who was a child molester who molested two little girls. One five years old, one nine years old. This judge sentenced him to just six years and described from the bench, she said, I can see so much good in you. You're such a good person. This is to the child molester repeatedly molesting a five year old, nine year old girl. There was another woman, a mom, whose one year old baby died of fentanyl poisoning. Now she was a drug dealer. She had drug dealing all throughout her apartment. This one year old child massively overdosed of fentanyl. When he was found, his pajamas were coated in fentanyl. The sheets that he was lying on were coated in fentanyl.
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Unnamed Guest
They had fentanyl everywhere.
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Ben Ferguson
He had enough fentanyl in his system to kill four adults.
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Unnamed Guest
One year old. She could have sentenced this mother to.
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Ben Ferguson
30 years in jail for murdering her child with fentanyl. She sentenced the child to four years. This is a terrible nominee.
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Unnamed Guest
But you know what?
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Ben Ferguson
Most of the hearing she got very few questions.
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Unnamed Guest
You know why? Because the other nominee was even worse.
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Ben Ferguson
The other nominee has been actively supporting.
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Unnamed Guest
Radicals and literally communist.
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Ben Ferguson
She has been a volunteer supporting a.
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Unnamed Guest
Communist group that is openly calling for.
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Ben Ferguson
A workers revolution to overthrow capitalism.
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Unnamed Guest
She's done that for years. She also supported a radical left wing candidate for Congress.
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Ben Ferguson
Just give a listen. Because I questioned her vigorously and she.
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Unnamed Guest
Would not answer a damn thing about her own record.
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Unnamed Senator
Ms. Campbell, I will say I have seen some astonishing nominees from this administration. But I have to admit, your record takes the cake. A judge should not be a political activist. Your record demonstrates to me a long history of being a political activist. But not just an activist. An activist who affiliates with extreme and radical organizations. Now, when Senator Grassley asked you about the Workers Dignity Organization, you gave I think deliberately misleading answer. You said you did not represent them and that convinced Senator Grassley not to continue on that line of questioning. You have been a legal adviser to that organization since 2013. That is what you have publicly printed on your AVO biography. It is what has been described in The Tennessee Bar association when you were nominated that explicitly says she served as a legal advisor for local workers rights nonprofit Workers Dignity. Now, why is it you're distancing yourself from them? The reason is because they are utterly radical. If you look at this group that you've served as the legal advisor for. For over a decade, this is an openly Marxist organization. This is a communist organization. Now that those words are not said lightly according to their own characterization of their views, this group says there's no election outcome that improves conditions for workers. The laws of this country have never worked for our people. And now that the system is crumbling, we will continue to stand in community and solidarity with each other. The only way we win in a world we deserve is by building a multiracial working class revolution that can push out white nationalism, violent state racism, and the capitalist class that is desperately clutching to hold control and profits as the people rise up. Why have you spent a decade as a legal advisor to an openly communist and Marxist organization?
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Carla Campbell
If I could briefly clarify. More than a decade ago, probably for the course of two or three years, I served on an advisory board that helped. This at the time was supposed to be a nonprofit workers rights organization. Get set up and get started.
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Unnamed Senator
Did you know they were a communist.
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Carla Campbell
Organization, Senator, at that time? None. They. They did not express these kinds of views. It was an organization.
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Unnamed Senator
So this is new. This. This wasn't the case then?
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Carla Campbell
Yes, and I have not been affiliated with them in more than a decade.
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Unnamed Senator
You're aware that your current profile that you have up, your legal bio says you are right now an advisor to them.
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Carla Campbell
I apologize for any confusion about that.
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Unnamed Senator
As your testimony under oath. And that's all right. The facts will come out. But your testimony, I want to. I want to make it explicit. Your testimony under oath is that you have done absolutely nothing and had zero contact with them. For how long?
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Carla Campbell
I have not served on their advisory boards.
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Unnamed Senator
You've done absolutely nothing and had zero contact with them for how long? Please answer the question.
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Carla Campbell
Many, many years.
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Unnamed Senator
How many?
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Carla Campbell
I don't know. Sitting here today, it's been okay.
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Unnamed Senator
If you look at other statements from this organization because they are radicals. They are radicals. If you look also, this is the same group in 2020. They called for abolishing ICE, abolishing prisons and detention centers and abolishing the police. Why did you volunteer for a communist organization that calls for abolishing ICE and abolishing the police?
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Carla Campbell
Senator, I have never seen these comments before.
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Unnamed Senator
You didn't know who you were volunteering.
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Carla Campbell
For I was not a volunteer for them at that.
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Unnamed Senator
You are a legal advisor. Were you paid?
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Carla Campbell
No, I was.
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Unnamed Senator
Then you were a volunteer. If you volunteer to be a legal advisor, you were a volunteer. Why did you volunteer? Do you support abolishing ice?
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Carla Campbell
Senator, at this time, I do support abolishing. I do not, Senator.
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Unnamed Senator
Well, it's amazing because a minute ago, you also told Senator Graham that the Tennessee Immigrant and Refugee Rights Coalition that has a manifesto calling for abolishing ice. You said you had nothing to do with it, which is fairly astonishing because on page three of their manifesto, they thank you by name for what they say. We would like to thank the following individuals and organizations for their thoughtful feedback and input. This platform would not have been possible without their expertise. Are they lying?
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Carla Campbell
Senator? I'm not familiar with that manifesto.
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Unnamed Senator
Are they lying? Did you provide any assistance? Did you give feedback and input, which is what they say on the COVID page?
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Carla Campbell
Senator, I didn't even know that existed. And so, no, I did not provide input on it.
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Unnamed Senator
And why? You know, when Senator Graham asked why you gave money to this radical candidate who has said 52 senators are Jim Crow senators and said multiple of us are siding with the devil, you laughed and thought that was funny. But Senator Graham asked you a question. Look, that candidate was as radical as I've ever seen. And when Senator Graham asked why you gave money to that candidate, you just smiled and didn't answer. So why did you give money to a radical candidate who believes multiple members of the Senate are siding with the devil?
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Carla Campbell
Senator?
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Unnamed Senator
Actually, Senator Whitehouse, you weren't here before an exchange with the chairman where Senator Kennedy asked for longer periods because you have two circuit justices, and the Chairman said he was going to give additional time. So the comment they want to be gaveled as part of the show is not accurate. And Senator Welch said he was going to give additional time. In fact, he said at the beginning he was going to give six minutes. So my question. You did not answer. Senator Graham.
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Mr. Chairman, how much time is money? How much time is expired? I just want to clarify. I just walked in. Why did you give money six minutes? Because it seems like more than six has passed.
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Why did you give money to this. To this radical? Put up the double one, too. Why did you. Why did you give money to this radical candidate? Fifteen hundred dollars. A lot of money. That's a question, Senator.
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Carla Campbell
Again, I'm not familiar with these comments.
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Unnamed Senator
Why did you give money to this radical candidate?
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Carla Campbell
Odette.
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Unnamed Senator
What? Could you let her answer the question, please?
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Carla Campbell
I'm not familiar with these comments. And I.
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Unnamed Senator
Why did you give money to her? That's the question you're not going to answer. You're refusing to answer why you gave money to her.
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Carla Campbell
Senator, I'm not familiar with these.
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Unnamed Senator
That's not an answer. My answer is why did you. What is the affirmative reason? You gave fifteen hundred dollars. There was something you saw in her that you said, this needs fifteen hundred dollars.
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Unnamed Guest
Why?
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Unnamed Senator
Please answer. That question is expired. Would you please ask the witness to answer the question? She's refusing to answer it. It's indefensible. But answer. Was there any reason or do you just give $15 to anyone? Senator, your time is expired. I would like her to answer the question. And you said she could answer the question. She has refused to do so multiple times. Please answer the question. Answer the question. No, she did not. She said she didn't know those comments. That's not why she gave the money. Senator, can I ask you why she gave the money? You don't know because she hasn't answered. Are you going to answer? Ms. Campbell, I know why you gave money to radical. Who says we are aligned?
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Mr. Chairman, I have a lot. A lot of other centers of busy days. Can we get on with the next person?
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You don't want an answer to the question either? Senator Booker, I just want to say for the record question, Ms. Campbell. Or do you believe this committee doesn't deserve an answer to that question?
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Mr. Chairman, who has.
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You're just refusing to answer.
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Who's next?
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The senator's time has expired. The senator doesn't like the answer. It's not an answer. She sat there silently and has not spoken. That is by definition not an answer from.
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Ted Cruz
It's amazing. By the way they said she answered the question. They'll just flat out lie, won't they?
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Ben Ferguson
They will. And it was really striking. I've never seen. So this particular judicial nominee, she presents as a sort of very mousy, shy woman, which is really weird because she volunteers for communists.
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Unnamed Guest
Like I've never seen that.
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Ben Ferguson
And she had.
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Unnamed Guest
So.
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Ben Ferguson
So Lindsey.
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Unnamed Guest
So Chuck Grassley asked her, hey, you.
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Ben Ferguson
Volunteered for this communist group? And she said, I've never represented them. And he was like, oh, well, okay. I guess my staff got that wrong. Sorry. So that happened first. And then Lindsey Graham asked and he asked her, why did you give money to this? I mean, this was a radical candidate who literally said, all 52 Republicans who voted against Katanji Brown Jackson or all 52 Republicans, not a vote against Tanji Brown Jackson, but 52 Republicans were Jim Crow Republicans, including, by the way, Tim Scott.
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Unnamed Guest
She.
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Ben Ferguson
She. She called Tim Scott a white, white supremacist.
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Unnamed Guest
He's African American.
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Ben Ferguson
But she called Tim Scott a white supremacist. This was this judicial candidate's single largest donation. She gave $1,500 more than she'd ever given to any political candidates candidate. And Lindsey asked her, said, why did you give the money? And she just stared at him silently. And Lindsey moved on. So I went and asked her, why'd.
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Unnamed Guest
You give the money?
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Ben Ferguson
And she tried that. She had the weirdest. I've never seen a candidate do this where you have a question and she just looks at you silently. And then what happened is a bunch of Democrat senators rush in. So Peter Welch was chairing the hearing.
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Unnamed Guest
He's trying to gavel down saying, no, no, no, no, I don't want to answer this question.
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Ben Ferguson
Then Cory Booker came in.
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Unnamed Guest
So Sheldon Whitehouse chimed in.
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Ben Ferguson
None of them were there for most of the hearing.
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Unnamed Guest
And Sheldon Whitehouse came in and said, oh, just gavel them down. They want that.
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Ben Ferguson
So he was trying to do that. And then Cory Booker was just trying to stop the bleeding.
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Unnamed Guest
But you know what?
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Ben Ferguson
It's amazing. Do you know how many Democrat senators on Judiciary Committee asked her, hey, why'd you represent a communist organization?
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Ted Cruz
I'm gonna go with probably zero.
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Ben Ferguson
That would be zero. None of them care, do you know? None of them.
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Unnamed Guest
It is a bizarre thing.
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Ben Ferguson
There is no independent, free thinking among the Democrats. There's none. Listen, when Donald Trump was president, he nominated some terrific judges. We confirmed the vast majority of his judges. He had some judicial nominees that were mistakes, that were bad nominees. And you know what we did as Republicans? We rejected them. We said, nope, take this one back.
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Unnamed Guest
This one's not there.
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Ben Ferguson
That's actually, under the Constitution, the job of the Senate. It's called advise and consent. The Democrats never, ever do that. They're just a rubber stamp. And they're willing.
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Unnamed Guest
This is a woman who's volunteering for.
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Ben Ferguson
Multiple organizations that are calling for abolishing ICE and abolishing the police. And the Democrats will all be like.
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Unnamed Guest
The politburo and vote da. That sounds like a federal appellate judge to us.
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Ted Cruz
It's incredible. At the end of the day, the question everybody's asking right now is, is she going to get confused? And the answer is yes, correct, No.
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Ben Ferguson
I think we'll probably beat this judge.
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Unnamed Guest
And I actually think the reason they.
- [37:49]
Ben Ferguson
Paired them so typically Judiciary Committee, they'll do one court of appeals judge at a time. It's unusual to do two. And I think the reason they did this is I think they knew this woman's record was pretty radical and she.
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Unnamed Guest
Was going to have a really rough time. I think they really want the left.
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Ben Ferguson
Wing judge from Maine on the 5th Circuit. On the, on the 1st Circuit.
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Unnamed Guest
And they know that her record is terrible, too. She keeps letting violent criminals go with.
- [38:14]
Ben Ferguson
Really, really short prison sentences.
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Unnamed Guest
But they knew.
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Ben Ferguson
So, you know, look, I spent, I don't know, 45 seconds laying out the terrible record about this judge letting violent criminals go early.
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Unnamed Guest
But you had a communist next to her. I don't know if she's a communist. She just volunteers for the communists.
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Ben Ferguson
So you decide what that is. I think it was a strategy. They know the 6th Circuit judge will go down, that she's not going to get the votes, but they're trying to ram the other judge through. And the other judge from Maine got a bumpy ride, but a much better ride than if she'd been solo and people had actually been able to really dive into a record.
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Ted Cruz
As always, thank you for listening to Verdict with Senator Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson with you. Don't forget to download my podcast. And you can listen to my podcast every other day you're not listening to Verdict or each day when you listen to Verdict afterwards. I'd love to have you as a listener to again, the Ben Ferguson Podcast. And we will see you back here on Monday morning.