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The 47 Morning Update with Ben Ferguson
Kamala Considers Border Wall after She Didn't, RFK Support to Trump a BIG DEAL & Harris on CNN "Bidenomics is Great Work" Week In Review
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Ben Ferguson
Welcome. It is Verdict with Senator Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson with you. And it is the week in review. And my, oh my, was it a big week. First up, Kamala Harris flip flopping now on the border wall trying to convince Americans she's in favor of it even though she's the one that has stopped it from being built. Also, rfk, he has endorsed Donald Trump. How significant could this be in swing states? We're going to break that down. And finally, Kamala Harris did a big fake interview with cnn. You had Dana Bash holding one hand while her VP can at walls was holding the other. So what actually came out of it? Well, she had to defend bidenomics and said it was quote, unquote, good work. Yes, Bidenomics, the same thing that's destroyed our economy. We'll break all that down for you as well. It is the weekend review and it starts right now. There is also another story you mentioned earlier and this one, I'm sorry, Senator, I just laughed when I saw this happen in real time. Kamala Harris has come out and now flip flopped on the border wall issue. She is one that said she would never, okay, never ever support building a wall. And I'm gonna play it because I think people should hear. This is her in her own words in Des Moines, Iowa.
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Kamala Harris
Let me be very clear. I'm not going to vote for a wall under any circumstances. And I do support border security and if we want to talk about that, let's do that.
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Ben Ferguson
But I will never support a wall under any circumstances. Now, the polling data is not looking good for her on security at the border. And she's like, okay, I guess I might be in favor of wall even putting out an ad that shows Donald Trump's wall in her ad.
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Ted Cruz
Well, the single greatest vulnerability to Kamala Harris and Democrats nationally is the open borders they've had for four years. It is the number one issue voters are concerned about. We're seeing an invasion at our southern border. 11.5 million illegal immigrants. People are seeing the death, the suffering, the children being brutalized, the women being sexually assaulted. People are seeing the criminals being released who are murdering Americans, who are raping women, who are assaulting kids. People are seeing the risk of terrorism coming across the southern border and they're very unhappy. So the Democrats are looking at the same poll numbers we are. They realize, gosh, this is a vulnerability. Now, mind, mind you, they're not willing to change their policies. They still want another 11 million, another 20 million, another 30 million illegal immigrants to come into this country because they view them all as future Democrat voters. They want to stay in power. But we've got 69 days to election day. And so in the 69 days to election Day, they will say whatever, whatever they feel they can to convince the voters to elect Kamala Harris. And after which she will go hard left and continue to destroy this country. Now, we saw at the outset of her campaign, by the way, she's been the presumptive Democrat nominee for over a month. She's done zero interviews, no press conferences, no questions. They put her in front of a teleprompter. She reads the teleprompter, they tackle her, they throw her back in Joe Biden's basement. They say, shut up and please don't say anything. The first major policy provision she came out for was no taxes on tips. That was literally a proposal Donald Trump rolled out in Nevada. It's a proposal, by the way, that I introduced in the Senate. I introduced the no taxes on tips legislation. When I introduced it, both Democrat senators from Nevada co sponsored my legislation. And there's a reason for that, which is 25% of the workers in Nevada are tipped workers. And so both Democrats immediately sponsored my legislation. Kamala came out and suddenly had this crazy idea, hey, no taxes on tips. So that was where she started. She is now gone. So she also said this week she is not for an EV mandate. Suddenly she loves her some internal combustion engine. No electric vehicle mandate. Just keep your car. Nevermind. For the last four years of Joe Biden and Kamala Harris, they have been pushing an EV mandate date on every front. They've been trying to ban the internal combustion engine. They've been using regulatory assaults in every front. None of that exists. This, as Obi Wan Kenobi said, these are not the drones you're looking for. Do not pay attention to anything Kamala Harris and Joe Biden have done. Listen instead to the nonsense they're spewing 69 days before the election. But this truly is the one. That is the cherry on the top of the banana sundae. Let me read the headline from Axios. Quote, harris flip flops on building the border wall. If she's elected president, Kamala Harris pledges to spend hundreds of millions of dollars on a wall along the southern border, a project she once opposed and called un American during the Trump administration. By the way, I'm gonna break news right now, and this may not be news, you know, but next week I'm reliably told from leaks within the White House that Kamala Harris plans to dye her hair blonde, dye her skin orange and buy enormously long red ties. And we in public appearances.
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Ben Ferguson
And you got to add Beyonce's going to be in there with her doing the same thing. Right. Because if we're going to start rumors, we might as well go back to that one to get people to excited.
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Ted Cruz
But by the way, Beyonce is going to be blonde and also with orange skin.
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Ben Ferguson
I love it.
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Ted Cruz
Listen, I want to go back, I want you to listen to a montage that Martha McCallum put together on Fox of Kamala's prior positions on the wall. Because this is, look, there's a Yiddish word, chutzpah that doesn't even begin to capture what Kamala Harris claim that she's going to build. The wall is. Now listen to this.
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Dana Bash
Axios News calling out Vice President Harris's quote, flip flop on the border wall. Here is some of what she has said in the past. Watch.
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Kamala Harris
I'm all for increased border security where we need it. I am not for a wall. I specialize on transnational criminal organizations. That's. That wall ain't gonna stop them.
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Dana Bash
No, no, no. Okay. But last week, Harris said that she supports the bipartisan border bill, which includes requiring the Trump border wall according to its negotiators. Axios reporting that Team Harris says that the bill doesn't include new wall funding. It just extends the timeline to spend funds appropriated during the Trump administration. So we hope we'll hear directly from the candidate to clear that up in an interview, which we would love to see over the next several days, by the way.
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Ben Ferguson
The interview is now going to be a joint interview, apparently on CNN where she doesn't have to worry about babbling so much because the VP will be there with her candidate, which still makes me laugh. That's her first interview. But we have, we have no policies, decisions. It just.
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Ted Cruz
So hold on, Ben, let me ask you something. So, Ben, you have been following politics closely since you were like, in the womb.
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Ben Ferguson
Yeah.
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Ted Cruz
And it's your birthday. So like in the womb was 43 years ago.
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Ben Ferguson
You're going numbers. I'm digging this.
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Ted Cruz
In 43 years, do you know of a single instance ever? And I'm asking this comprehensively. In 43 years where a presidential candidate was so terrified to do an interview on their own that they demanded their VP candidate be there with them.
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Ben Ferguson
Yeah. Bring a buddy with you, right? No, I've never seen that. But what's even more weird. It's weird, but it's even more shocking than that. We had a convention and if you go to her website right now because I check it every day when I'm doing my show.
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Ted Cruz
No policy.
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Ben Ferguson
There is still no policy tabs on her damn website.
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Ted Cruz
There's no taxes on tips and building a wall and protect the internal combustion engine.
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Ben Ferguson
Yeah. And the same wall that's not actually.
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Ted Cruz
On the website for the fact checkers there, that's just the policy she's rolling out. But, but she has no policies on her website.
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Ben Ferguson
Well, and that's the part I think that Axios was trying to get at is like, give me a break. I mean, Kamala Harris, if you go back.
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Ted Cruz
And by the way, Axios is not a right wing website. It is a center left media organizations. It's not one of the most left wing organizations, but it's, it's not conservative.
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Ben Ferguson
No.
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Ted Cruz
And they're pointing out. Are you friggin kidding me? Like this is what, what she's saying.
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Ben Ferguson
Yeah. And let's go back to what she called the wall, which she's now using parts of the wall visually in her ads.
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Kamala Harris
Listen, we don't need to build a wall. This is a crisis of his own making. And by definition, just plain speak basic English language definition, it is not an emergency. What's going to end up happening is that he will end up without any question if he proceeds. We're going to be looking at a situation where in particular, homeowners and landowners in places like New Mexico and Texas are probably going to look at government taking their land. We're looking at military resources being focused again on the President's vanity project instead of focused on real national security issues.
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Ben Ferguson
I mean, she says it's a vanity project and it's not a crisis and we don't need it. And everybody, this Donald Trump is the idiot. I'm the brilliant one. She said this for years and now she's using Trump's wall as a prop for her own campaign.
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Ted Cruz
Listen, I served for years on the Senate Judiciary Committee with Kamala Harris. 100% of the time, without exception. She was hard left, as the nonpartisan bill tracking organization GovTrack rated her. She was the single most liberal senator in the entire U.S. senate. She voted to the left of Bernie Sanders, to the left of Elizabeth Warren. She has never once in any hearing I've been in expressed any concern with securing the border. She is always, always, always cited on side of illegal aliens, of the cartels, of the human traffickers, of the drug smugglers. In fact, in one hearing with the head of ice, the Immigration and Customs Enforcement, she analogized ICE agents to the Ku Klux Klan, which is grotesque, it is offensive. And so now when she's pretending she will secure the border, she has been in charge of the border for the last four years. She has been the border czar. As much as the media is trying to erase that, those are the facts. She wanted this outcome, this invasion is her desired outcome. And if, God forbid, she gets elected president, eleven and a half million is going to become 20 million or even 30 million illegal immigrants.
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Ben Ferguson
Now, if you want to hear the rest of this conversation, you can go back and listen to the full podcast from earlier this week. Now on to story number two. So let's talk about the politics of this now. And you look at swing states, and this is my theory. You can tell me if you think I'm right or wrong. He was polling in most swing states. I'm referring to RFK Jr. Anywhere between about 4% to 7%. If he's able to keep 40 to 50% of his supporters as he go and they go over to Trump, That's a legitimate 2 to 3 percentage points in swing states.
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Ted Cruz
Yeah.
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Ben Ferguson
That is the difference center between winning and losing in a general election cycle. This could be massive for Donald Trump.
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Ted Cruz
This could have enormous impact. And we'll break the numbers down in a second, but you're right, but let me, before we get into the exact numbers, let's actually just talk about this in the macro level. Bobby Kennedy is the son of the late Bobby Kennedy, who would have been president had he not been assassinated on the presidential campaign trail.
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Ben Ferguson
Yes.
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Ted Cruz
Bobby Kennedy is the nephew of jfk, who obviously was president and tragically was assassinated as president. There is no greater Democratic royalty than the Kennedys than the Kennedys and Bobby Kennedy Jr. In particular. That is for Bobby Kennedy to be endorsing the Republican candidate for president is massive. And do you know when the last time was that a Kennedy supported a Republican in a campaign? I'm going to go back in ancient history. I want you to listen to this interview with Richard Nixon. Let's go back to 1950. Give a listen as Nixon talks about it.
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Richard Nixon
In 1950, he came into the outer office. My secretary buzzed and said, congressman Kennedy is here. So of course, he came right in and he handed me an envelope. He said, you know, I know you got a tough campaign against Helen Gagan Douglas and the family would like to contribute. So he handed it to me and it was $1,000 in cash. Later on, I think it was quite embarrassing to him. And he wanted it made very clear that the contribution was from his Father, and not for him personally, but he was delivering it. There was no question that whose side he was on. And later on after the election, when he was speaking at Harvard, he said that he was not unhappy about my defeating Helen Gahagan Douglas because he had not found her one that he liked to work with in the Congress of the United States. Do you think that the money was in fact from him or was it from his father? Doesn't make any difference. The Kennedy money is all in one pot. And he got, he had a chance to get it. I think. Let me put it this way. Unless he had wanted me to beat Helen Gahagan Douglas, that money would never have come because I didn't know his father at that time. I'm sure what happened is that he sold that. Well, this is one of the coming lights here. And his father was anti communist and felt because of what I'd done in the, his case, which was already under the belt at that point, that he'd like to be on that side. No, I don't think he was an errand boy for his father. The money may have come from his father, but he wanted it done too. There was no question about that. He was on my side in that campaign.
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Ben Ferguson
I mean, that's, that's a piece of history that I hope everyone. And like you said earlier, if you're not getting to watch this, if you're listening the audio only of this one, go watch this on YouTube because that's a really cool piece of history to see.
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Ted Cruz
Yeah, the video is, is, is amazing. And, and it's Nixon describing how JFK supported him in Nixon's Senate race when he was running for the Senate in California in 1950 against Helen Hagen Douglas, who was a very, very left wing Democrat. And, and JFK showed up, number one with a thousand bucks cash. And so JFK is this young congressman. He shows up with 1000 bucks cash. Now that's illegal today, actually.
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Ben Ferguson
Bagman like that you can't bring.
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Ted Cruz
And some of this came out of Watergate and came out of all of that. You had the initial campaign finance laws that you can't now accept that much money in cash. It has to be a check or it has to be a credit card or it has to be Bitcoin, but it can't be. You're not allowed. I actually had a campaign rally where a guy came up to me yesterday. You were there with five $100 bills and said, Here, I want to give you $500 for your campaign. And I had to tell him I said, thank you, sir. I'm not allowed to accept that. Under the FEC rules, I'm not allowed to accept that much cash. You can give it as a check, you can give it as a credit card, but I can't take that. And I made him keep his money. Now, I don't know if he ended up giving or not, but it was an interesting moment. It is an interesting moment. And by the way, that was $1,000 in 1950.
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Ben Ferguson
How much is that today? I mean, to put it in perspective, it's a lot.
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Ted Cruz
Well, I actually ran the numbers, and $1,000 in 1950 today is $13,051.45.
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Ben Ferguson
That's how much the Kennedys wanted him to win.
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Ted Cruz
13 grand that JFK delivered to support Nixon in his Senate race in 1950. And I don't know of another instance when a Kennedy has supported a Republican. Certainly not in as high profile a race as the presidential race. So Bobby Kennedy supporting Donald Trump. Wow. Like, holy cow, it's been 74 years since this has happened.
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Ben Ferguson
When you look now at these swing states moving forward, and I think there's two takeaways that are gonna be political knowledge. If I was doing a class, teaching a class in a couple of years, I would bring this up immediately. What did you learn from this endorsement? Number one, I think Americans are very much open to a cabinet that just isn't one sided for one party or the other, and that you should look for ways to reach across the aisle because it can bridge the gap. And I think this is proof of this with the way that the reaction has been and how terrified Democrats are of this endorsement, number one. But number two, I also think it tells you how important it is to listen to maybe some of the smaller candidates who are running, whether it's listening to someone like a Buchanan or a Nader or, or, or even a Bernie Sanders. I think Democrats have done a bad job not incorporating some of that younger Phil the Burn into some of their later campaigns. Hillary Clinton really off the Bernie Sanders people in a, in a major way when she was running. And I think that's part of history that people haven't looked at so much is that, hey, you got to make sure that you're. That if you're a Democrat, even if there's someone you don't like, you might want to have a bigger conversation with them.
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Ted Cruz
So, yes. And now I actually think in many ways Bernie Sanders prevailed in that race. Why? Because his agenda became the Democrat Party agenda.
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Ben Ferguson
Yeah, but she had disdain in it afterwards.
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Ted Cruz
Oh, look, Hillary did and I assume does. And there's no doubt they treated Bernie and his coalition. They treated them like peasants. They gave them the back of the hand. Because the Democrat Party is all about power, power, power. But my point is, Bernie's positions were fringe a decade ago.
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Ben Ferguson
Now they're in mainstream.
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Ted Cruz
That they are now the heart, every one of Bernie's positions is what Kamala Harris supports, that they are one in the same. And when Trump became president, what it did is it radicalized the Democrat Party and they ended up adopting Bernie's policies. But look, you wanna understand how big a deal the RFK Jr. Endorsement is? Just flip it. So the media is saying all day long, it's not a big deal. It's not a big deal. It doesn't matter. Doesn't matter. Doesn't matter. Doesn't matter. They're so desperate to convince you of that. That ought to tell you something. Just flip it and ask yourself if Bobby Kennedy yesterday had endorsed Kamala Harris.
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Ben Ferguson
24. 7 news coverage, I promise you, CNN went and dumped out of it, which is what they did when they were covering him, saying he was dropping out of the race and starts explaining why.
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Ted Cruz
Repeat that. Yeah, literally during his speech. CNN cut it off. By the way, MSNBC aired the speech with no audio. They had their commentators talking over it so you could see Bobby Kennedy was talking. But they thought it was more important to hear the lefties saying the words coming out of Kennedy's mouth. Do not matter. Pay no attention. You cannot listen to this. They are terrified. And if Kennedy had endorsed Kamala, it would be 24 7. It would be, the race is over. This is the final that. This broke the back of Trump. Dance in the street. Dance in the street. In fact, call off the election in November. We don't even need an election. Game over. Let's break some of the numbers down. So I have here Tony Fabrizio, who is Trump's pollster, put out a memo just breaking down, what's the impact of the RFK Jr. Endorsement? And if you go through the swing states. All right, I'm going to go. Go. Go through each of them. Seven states. So Arizona RFK Jr. S current share of the vote right now is 5%. The breakdown within Arizona of the Kennedy support of the Kennedy vote, how much of it supports Trump, how much of it supports Harris? In Arizona, it's 53% supports Trump, 28% supports Harris. That's a delta of 25%. That's a ton of votes. If you assume the Trump supporting Kennedy votes will now vote for Trump. That's a big chunk. How about Georgia? Georgia, Kennedy has 3%, and the delta is 47% for Trump, 34% for Harris. That's a delta of 13%, again, favoring Trump. Michigan, Kennedy has 4% of the vote. The delta there is 43% for Trump, 41% for Harris. That's the closest. But even that's plus 2% for Trump. How about North Carolina? North Carolina, Kennedy has 3%, but the breakdown there, 58% for Trump, 22% for Harris. That's a delta of 36% for Trump. Nevada. Nevada, Kennedy has 4%. The delta between the two. All right, this is gonna be stunning. What do you think the delta is between the two?
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Ben Ferguson
I mean, it's gotta be in the teens, I would assume because of taxes.
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Ted Cruz
It's much, much higher than that.
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Ben Ferguson
Really?
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Ted Cruz
Trump, 66%, Harris, 16%. The delta is 50%.
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Ben Ferguson
Is that because the tax issue there.
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Ted Cruz
I don't know why it is. I just. I'm just reading the numbers from Fabrizio's memo, so it doesn't say why. Let me do the last two swing states. Pennsylvania, Kennedy has 4% of the vote. Trump has of that 4%. Trump has 49%. Harris has 35. That's a delta of 13%. And finally, Wisconsin. Kennedy has 4% of the vote. Trump has 55% of that share. Harris has 25% of that share. That is a delta of plus 30%. What does all of that mean? It means the impact is very possibly 1 to 2 to 3 points in Trump's direction in each of those swing states. That is a big, big deal. In an election that could easily be decided by 1 or 2 percentage points, this endorsement could very possibly change the outcome of the election. I think a week ago, after a month of relentless media propaganda, according to the public polling, Kamala Harris was winning in all the swing states but Georgia, which would suggest, if the election had happened a week ago, that Kamala would have won. If these numbers move 2 or 3% towards Trump, it could well be the difference that gives Trump the election in November.
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Ben Ferguson
I want to pull back the curtain a little bit. And in campaigns, when you're running for president, you have daily surrogate calls, and it's the campaign, usually senior staff that runs them, and they kind of give out, like, some data. Are the talking points of what we're doing today, what the messaging is today.
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Ted Cruz
You've done that. So you were on the 2004 George W. Bush reelect. You were part of the media team. So you've actually been part of those calls.
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Ben Ferguson
Yes, and they're. And they're fun because some days they're just kind of like, you check the box. Like, not a lot's changed the day before, but you do it. And it's like, hey, we're still on this. Or, hey, there's a story of this data point. Or make sure if you're on tv, you mention this. So I'm on the Trump ones now, and I can tell you just the feeling on the call, the excitement with this endorsement, with this big guest that they were having at the rally. And everybody knew what it was like. It's not hard to figure it out. You knew it was going to be this. It was different, and it was all about these swing states. And I tell people this because, like, you do those calls every day, and they become the same in a sense. There are certain days where things are different, and this was one of those days where it just felt different.
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Ted Cruz
Well, and listen, what Kennedy did this cycle was a big deal. Getting on the ballot all across the country. It is hard to get on the presidential ballot as an independent candidate. He got. He said. It said there over a million signatures. Those are a bunch of people that were energized, that were inspired, that were excited. Now, not all of them are going to vote for Trump, but if a majority of them, if a significant majority do, that's a big deal. And it is why the corrupt corporate media desperately wants you not even to know about it and not to care.
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Ben Ferguson
Senator, one last just point I got to bring up, and I think it's an important one. The Democratic Convention was so worried about people not watching on the final night when Kamala was going to be speaking, that they just started putting out lies and leaks. Uh, it made me laugh. Don Lemon, for example, said, I have sources saying that either Taylor Swift's gonna show up or Beyonce or George W. Bush is gonna speak at the Democratic Convention. And then he says, stay tuned. Like clear propaganda. George Bush was not showing up to endorse Kamala Harris. No way in hell. But then they had this Beyonce thing out there or Taylor Swift out there, so the numbers would be massive watching the convention, and it was all a lie.
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Ted Cruz
Well, look, Don Lemon used to pretend to be a real journalist, and he just happily was pushing out propaganda. I mean, the idea that George W. Bush was gonna show up was always absurd and was. Was laughable. But you're right, it was designed to get people to tune in, whether it was Taylor Swift or Beyonce, they wanted to do something to draw up some excitement to get people to watch. But look, I gotta say, that night I was on Fox. I was on Jesse Waters, and I actually said, jesse, I want to break some news. So I have an internal leak from within the White House that has come out. I know who the mystery guest is. It's El Chapo. El Chapo is going to address the convention. And the reason is simple. They were brainstorming who's benefited the most from Kamala Harris policies. And as they talked about it, they could not come up with anyone who has benefited more than Mexican drug lords. Yeah. And so El Chapo, I'm told. And again, this is a leak from the Biden White House that Kamala personally raised the bail money. To bail. Yes, El Chapo's in jail, but she's very good at raising bail money for people in jail. So they bailed him out to fly him to Chicago to speak on stage and say, let me tell you, are you better off than you were four years ago? To all my drug dealing compatriots, we are much better off. So si se puerto. Turned out my prediction was wrong, but boy, it would have been appropriate because it sure is accurate. Who's benefited as before?
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Ben Ferguson
If you want to hear the rest of this conversation on this topic, you can go back and download the podcast from earlier this week to hear the entire thing. I want to get back to the big story number three of the week. You may have missed when you look at this interview, and it obviously depends on who you talk to, Right. You go and look at conservative headlines and it's like training train wreck. CNN pushes Kamala Harris hard on issues. Another headline says Harris unprepared. No Good answers. Waltz hit on Stolen Valor. VP defends Bidenomics fails to explain why she did not lower prices. I mean, the headlines, my point is, are all over the place. But when on Bidenomics is a great example. She referred to it as good work center. It's good work, really like Bidenomics, which has been a disaster. She says, no, no, no, it's not really a disaster. It's pretty good work.
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Dana Bash
You maintain Bidenomics is a success.
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Kamala Harris
I maintain that when we do the work of bringing down prescription medication for the American people, including capping the cost of the annual cost of prescription medication for seniors at $2,000. When we do what we did in the first year of being in office, to extend the child tax credit so that we cut child poverty in America by over 50, 50%. When we do what we have done to invest in the American people in bringing manufacturing back to the United States so that we created over 800,000 new manufacturing jobs bringing business back to America. What we have done to improve the supply chain so we're not relying on foreign governments to supply American families with their basic needs. I'll say that that's good work. There's more to do, but that's good work.
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Ben Ferguson
I mean, where do you even start? Grocery prices, home prices, food? I mean, what do you want. You want to go with this?
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Ted Cruz
But. But let me give my bottom line. This interview did absolutely nothing to impact the presidential election in November. The Kamala Harris campaign is high fiving. They're thrilled because now they have an excuse not to do another interview for at least another month because they'll say they did an interview so they will quickly rush her back to Joe Biden's basement and hide her there. And all this was, was a campaign commercial. What she's saying there, she's reading their talking points. The headlines you read. I don't know what outlets they are, but I'm gonna guess that everyone that says train wreck is a right of center outlet. You've got Breitbart and Fox News and all of those. And you know what? So what? The people reading that aren't going to vote for her anyway. Like, Like, I don't think there was a single thing in this interview that moved even one voter to change how they're going to vote in November. Um, and if there was, I'm sorry to say, it moved them towards Kamala Harris. Because if there's a voter who's a naive and ignorant voter who doesn't know anything, they listened to 20 some odd minutes of her reading campaign talking points. Look, foreign policy. On foreign policy, okay, There was no question about Ukraine and the disaster that the administration has done on that. There was no question about Afghanistan and the disaster there. There was no question about why Joe Biden denied that 13 servicemen and women were killed in Afghanistan due to their utter incompetence and the disgrace of this administration. None of those were questions. The question was instead about Israel and what did it do? It gave Kamala Harris a chance to say October 7th was terrible and to say, I will always stand for Israel. And Dana Bash asked as president, will you cut off weapons to Israel? And Kamala Harris refuses to answer. She says Israel has a right to defend itself. Doesn't answer the question at all. Okay, Dana, here's a crazy question. Joe Biden, right now, this instant, your administration has frozen Weapons to Israel is not sending the weapons to Israel that Congress appropriated. Do you agree with that? Is Joe Biden wrong to refuse to send weapons to Israel? That would be a real question. So, of course, Dana Bash didn't ask that. She also didn't ask. Madam Vice President, you and Joe Biden sent hundreds of millions of dollars to Gaza. You did so after your administration concluded that it was likely that that money would be used by Hamas to carry out terrorism. In light of October 7, in light of the determination that it was highly likely. That was your administration's determination. It would be used for terrorism, Was it a mistake to send hundreds of millions of dollars that were highly likely to be used by terrorism, by the way, you want to talk foreign policy? Iran. Your administration, Madam Vice President, has sent over $100 billion to Iran. Iran provides 90% of the funding for Hamas, 90% of the funding for Hezbollah. In a very real sense, the death squads on October 7 was funded by your administration. Do you regret that? Was that a mistake? Madam Vice President, why do you continue today to refuse to enforce the oil sanctions against Iran? Why are you allowing Iran to sell 2 million barrels a day of oil? When you became vice president, they were selling 300,000 barrels a day. It was crushing the Iranian economy. And, Madam Vice President, by the way, on fracking, you said a minute ago you weren't going to ban fracking. Why is it that you're so eager to support oil and gas production in Iran led by a theocratic lunatic who chants death to America? But. But you and your administration have put in regulation after regulation, hammering oil and gas jobs in the United States. Those are questions an actual journalist would ask.
- [32:44]
Ben Ferguson
There's only one moment in this whole debate, Senator, or I should say this television interview that I think the Trump campaign could really use to their advantage in a TV ad. And I want to play it for you and get your thoughts, because there was this moment for me where I was like, okay, maybe this is useful.
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Dana Bash
So you have been vice president for three and a half years. The steps that you're talking about now, why haven't you done them already?
- [33:14]
Kamala Harris
Well, first of all, we had to recover as an economy, and we have done that. I'm very proud. Proud of the work that we have done that has brought inflation down to less than 3%. The work that we have done to cap the cost of insulin at $35 a month for seniors. Donald Trump said he was going to do a number of things, including allowing Medicare to negotiate drug prices. Never happened. We did it. So now, as I travel in the state of Georgia and around our country, the number of seniors that have benefited, I've met. I was in Nevada recently, a grandmother who showed me her receipts. And before we capped the cost of insulin for seniors at $35 a month, she was playing hundreds of dollars up to thousands of dollars a month for her insulin. She's not doing that anymore.
- [33:58]
Ben Ferguson
I mean, that's the. That might be your only moment where you could say, okay, maybe we can make a campaign out of this. That. Why didn't you do what you say.
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Ted Cruz
You'Re going to do, day one? I'm not with you on that. I actually think Dana Bash gave her a perfect opportunity. Give me your talking point. So the only questions that she had that were sort of pretend questions. When she asked Tim Waltz about stolen valor, it was a softball for him to give a speech about how important military service is and how much he loves America. When she asked her that question. Look, it's such an obvious question that it was sort of like, what is your talking point in response to this? And that whole riff there, if you are a voter who's not paying much attention, who doesn't know the record, that riff sounds pretty good. Okay, so we had a pandemic. You had to deal with that. And then, hey, we did this thing on insulin. I'm not sure what the thing on insulin is, the person listening might be saying, but you told me about a woman who had really high receipts and then they went down. So, wow. Okay. Apparently you did something. That whole riff is a prepared riff. That is their defense. And there was nothing actually calling to account for the actual record. The disaster of the record, by the way, going back to the border. Her statements were not just. Not just the statement. You raised your hand and said that you would decriminalize illegal immigration. You've also said you would abolish ice. Do you still want to abolish ice? You've also said the wall was ridiculous. Do you still want to do that? Well, now you've said you want to build the wall. You know her position, you said. And by the way, a real interview would. Would play this. You said on day one, you would shut down every ICE detention center and you would not detain illegal immigrants. Used to believe that abolish, but also shut down the detention centers. You know what was nowhere in the question? Jocelyn Nungaree, Lakin Riley, Rachel Marin. Like, a real question would be, Lake and Riley was killed by an illegal immigrant that you and Joe Biden released. Was that a mistake? To release that immigrant? Rachel Marin was raped and murdered by an illegal immigrant that you and Joe Biden released. Was that a mistake to release that illegal immigrant? Jocelyn Nungaree was raped and killed by two illegal immigrants that you and Joe Biden released. Was that a mistake to release that immigrant? How many is enough like that actually would be laying out? And have you changed anything? Why do you continue to release illegal immigrants who go on every day to murder Americans, to rape women, to violate children we talked about in a previous podcast? They just halted their plan. Your administration flew into America over 300,000 illegal immigrants a year. Flew them in. They didn't cross the border. You flew them in from Haiti, from Cuba, from Nicaragua and Venezuela. One of the illegal immigrants you flew in, you flew into Boston. You released him in Boston and he raped a 15 year old girl with severe mental disabilities. Was that a mistake to fly into this country an illegal immigrant who raped a teenage girl? You know what, those are hard questions for her to answer. That's why she doesn't do interviews. But she still doesn't do interviews. This was not an interview. They sat there and knew Dana Bash is part of the campaign. Just like if she was sitting there with Karine Jean Pierre to do a fake interview, they'd know they would never get those questions because those are questions that are a real problem. They knew they'd never get them from Dana Bash either.
- [37:56]
Ben Ferguson
Senator, finally on this, I want to go over the list. It was an interesting list that was thrown out right after the interview. Trump and Vance put this out the campaign. It said, here are all the things Kamala Harris failed to address tonight with cnn. Kamala, support for ending cash bail for violent criminals. Comless fundraising for the Minnesota Freedom Fund which freed rioters. Kamala's tiebreaking vote for the American rescue plan which economists say fueled inflation, comma, support support for defunding the police, comma's comments comparing policing to slavery. Kamala's repeated praise of Biden nomics, comma, support for Medicare for all, a socialist takeover of our health care system. And that's just some of the highlights here. Is that really what this election is going to be about? And is that what he has to bring out in the debate that's going to be coming up fairly soon?
- [38:48]
Ted Cruz
Yes. Look, if this election is on Kamala's record and Donald Trump's record, if this election is on the issues, we win. If it's not, if it is all about Hopi changey joy and Trump derangement syndrome, then Kamala could win. And the media is going to spend billions of dollars trying to cover up all of the substantive issues. Look, you want to see what propaganda is like? Look at the last two questions. Dana Bash has now understand this is the first interview in over a month of the Democrat nominee to be president. So she has been hiding from interviews for more than a month. Like every question is precious real estate. Her last two questions. She turns to Tim Waltz and says, oh, there was an amazing image of your son at the convention, so excited, saying, I'm proud of my dad. They play the video and he says, oh, I'm so. That was an amazing moment in his dad. I feel great. Like, cue the music. Could we put some kittens and puppies around him? You know, maybe hearts like he's a soft, tender dad. And then that's not enough. Then she turns to Kamala. Oh, there was a picture from the convention of your niece, an adorable little girl with two pigtails. And the picture shows her looking at you, speaking, gazing adoringly. It was inspirational. It's a moment. Oh, Kamala. I mean, this is not journalism. This is Karine. Jean Pierre would not have gushed more if it was the campaign putting out a fake documentary. The fake documentary would have closed with those two questions and the image. In fact, they would have faded out on the image of the little girl with pigtails gazing at Camilla as an inspirational hero. That was CNN's objective. And that's a lot of things. But you know what? It ain't. It ain't journalism.
- [41:04]
Ben Ferguson
As always, thank you for listening to Verdict with Senator Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson with you. Don't forget to download my podcast. And you can listen to my podcast every other day. You're not listening to Verdict or each day when you listen to Verdict afterwards. I'd love to have you as a listener to again, the Ben Ferguson Podcast. And we will see you back here on Monday morning.