Money Direct from CCP-170 Suspicious Activity Reports-Part One of Deep Dive into Biden Family Corruption with Chairman James Comer

Summary

Summary of "Money Direct from CCP-170 Suspicious Activity Reports-Part One of Deep Dive into Biden Family Corruption with Chairman James Comer"

Podcast Information:

• Title: The 47 Morning Update with Ben Ferguson
• Host/Author: Premiere Networks
• Episode: Money Direct from CCP-170 Suspicious Activity Reports-Part One of Deep Dive into Biden Family Corruption with Chairman James Comer
• Release Date: July 20, 2023

Overview: In this episode of The 47 Morning Update, host Ben Ferguson delves into allegations of corruption within the Biden family, featuring discussions with Senator Ted Cruz, Congressman James Comer (Chairman of the House Oversight Committee), and an unnamed IRS whistleblower. The episode focuses on recent Suspicious Activity Reports (SARs) related to the Biden family, purported money laundering schemes involving shell companies, and potential obstructions by the Department of Justice (DOJ).

Key Sections:

1. Introduction to the Investigation

   • Timestamp [01:22]: Senator Ted Cruz introduces the episode, highlighting the emergence of whistleblowers alleging criminal activities within the Biden family. He emphasizes the significance of the hearing held by the House Oversight Committee and introduces Congressman James Comer as a key figure in uncovering these allegations.

2. Whistleblower Testimonies and SARs

   • Timestamp [03:19]: The unnamed IRS whistleblower outlines the gravity of the hearing, claiming that the testimony presented is among the most credible received by the Oversight Committee in seven years. The whistleblower asserts that the Biden family engaged in money laundering through shell companies, with over 170 SARs filed against them.
   • Notable Quote:
     • "There were more than two. There were seven that were set to interview Joe, Hunter Biden and his children." – [08:14] Unnamed IRS Whistleblower

3. Suspicious Activity Reports Explained

   • Timestamp [10:31]: The whistleblower explains SARs, noting that they are not confirmations of illegal activity but indications of suspicion that a crime may have been committed. Typically, SARs are rare; however, in the case of the Biden family, over 170 SARs were filed, raising significant concern.
   • Notable Quote:
     • "Normally, if you get a suspicious activity report, that is baloney. I was on a Bank board for 10 years. I think we issued two over the course of 10 years." – [11:05] Unnamed IRS Whistleblower

4. Money Laundering and Shell Companies

   • Timestamp [17:45]: The discussion shifts to the mechanics of money laundering using shell companies. The whistleblower describes shell companies as non-operational entities created solely to obscure the origin of funds.
   • Notable Quote:
     • "A shell company is a fake company. Okay? They don't make anything, they don't produce anything, they don't provide a good or service." – [17:55] Unnamed IRS Whistleblower

5. Case Study: Robinson Walker Account

   • Timestamp [12:21]: The whistleblower cites the Robinson Walker account as a primary example, detailing a $3 million wire transfer from China to a previously inactive account maintaining only $40,000-$50,000 balances. The sudden influx of funds triggered multiple SARs.
   • Notable Quote:
     • "One wire, $3 million. Now, remember, we got the bank records. For 10 years, that bank account never had you ever gotten a $3 million wire?" – [12:21] James Comer

6. Obstruction by the Department of Justice

   • Timestamp [27:30]: The whistleblower accuses the DOJ of obstructing the investigation by delaying actions until after the 2020 election and subsequently downplaying the severity of Hunter Biden’s activities once Joe Biden assumed the presidency.
   • Notable Quote:
     • "They were stonewalled the whole time. They said they couldn't do it." – [27:39] Unnamed IRS Whistleblower

7. Statute of Limitations Concerns

   • Timestamp [28:23]: The conversation highlights that many of Hunter Biden’s alleged crimes fell outside the statute of limitations due to delays imposed by the DOJ, effectively preventing prosecution even if wrongdoing occurred.
   • Notable Quote:
     • "A statute of limitations is really important. You shouldn't have to face the possibility for criminal prosecution 5, 10, 20 years after something happened." – [29:10] James Comer

8. Broader Implications and Future Investigations

   • Timestamp [30:51]: Senator Cruz and Congressman Comer discuss the broader implications of these findings, suggesting that Joe Biden himself may be the primary focus of criminality, with the DOJ prioritizing his protection over investigating his son's activities.
   • Notable Quote:
     • "The real focus of the criminality was Joe Biden." – [30:39] James Comer

9. Upcoming Part Two Tease

   • Timestamp [31:25]: The episode concludes by teasing the second part of the series, which will delve deeper into Joe Biden’s alleged direct criminal liability and further DOJ obstructions.

Concluding Remarks: This episode presents a critical examination of alleged financial misconduct within the Biden family, emphasizing the role of SARs, shell companies, and potential DOJ interference in obstructing investigations. The discussion underscores concerns about the effectiveness of oversight mechanisms and the integrity of ongoing investigations.

Disclaimer: The contents of this summary reflect the discussions and claims made by the speakers in the podcast episode. The allegations presented regarding the Biden family are based on the testimonies of the guests and should be independently verified for accuracy and fairness.

Transcript

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[Ted Cruz]

The Biden crime family and whistleblowers have come forward. So what did they say? It's our two part series from Washington DC Verdict with Senator Ted Cruz. Senator, it's like midnight. Whistleblowers have talked today and we're sitting here with Congressman James Comer, our guest for a two part series. This is probably going to be one of my favorite episodes that we've ever done and we're going to go in order of how we got to these whistleblowers. But before we even get to that, you and I talked. We're pulling an audible before the show. We're going to find out exactly what those whistleblowers said today in front of the committee with Congressman Comer.

[James Comer]

Well Ben, let me welcome you to Washington D.C. it's good to be here. It has almost been midnight. You're out of Texas. You're out of Memphis.

[Ted Cruz]

That's right.

[James Comer]

You are in the swamp. You are in the depth. So my friend James Comer, Congressman from the great state of Kentucky, Chairman of the House Oversight Committee has been deep up personal with Joe Biden, Hunter Biden and the Biden crime family. And I gotta say when we started using that Phrase, Biden crime family. I thought it was too harsh. I was like a little hesitant. Okay, that seems hyperbolic. I got to say, every damn day that unfolds, that's less and less exaggeration.

[Ted Cruz]

Yeah.

[James Comer]

And so James has been the reason we're starting so late is he's been voting till 11 o'clock at night. So he just left the House floor. This is the reality of Washington. And today, this is going to air on Thursday. But today, Wednesday, as we're sitting here almost midnight, you had a hearing in the House of Representatives that was a big, big deal. You had two groundbreaking whistleblowers. And so I just want to start by asking what happened today? If someone, someone's busy, they're driving to work, it's Thursday morning, they're driving to work, they didn't have time to turn on the TV yesterday. They didn't watch the testimony. So what did they miss? What happened in the House of Representatives on Wednesday?

[Unnamed IRS Whistleblower]

Well, I think we had a very substantive hearing on a very serious subject. The subject was the Biden criminal activity. And the two witnesses we had were, I think, the most credible witnesses we've had in front of the Oversight Committee in the entire seven years I've been in Congress. These were the two highest ranking IRS career employees from the International Tax Crime Division. So these were the guys that investigate all the suspicious wires, all the foreign influence, any type of tax evasion from foreign entities, the influx of illegal Chinese money. These are the guys that do that. And they're part of an elite team. And There are only 12 on this team. So this was two of the 12, 1/6 of the entire international tax fraud team for the IRS. And what they had to say was very concerning because I never knew over the past six months whether or not the IRS even knew about the shell companies that the Bidens had, if they even knew about all the suspicious activity. Reports that treasury had that showed that the Bidens were laundering money through shell companies through various banks. You know, pretty serious accusation. We've been talking about this and the Democrats have said, well, there's no evidence that's not true. That's fake news, Russian disinformation. So we finally had two whistleblowers come forward. They gave a transcribed interview to the Ways and Means Committee, which is the appropriate process. They're the ones, as you know, in the House that has jurisdiction over the irs. Then they agreed to come to a committee hearing for the House Oversight Committee. So the American people got to see today a six hour hearing with 50 members of Congress each having six minutes to ask these Iris whistleblowers questions. And there were substantive questions on the Republican side. Now, the Democrats, all they fought about was Trump and racism and things like that. But we asked very substantive questions. And what we learned was that the Bidens have committed a series of crimes. There were many more tax evasion issues than what Hunter Biden pled guilty to. The IRS whistleblowers had investigated this for five years, and they were told to stand down by the Department of Justice. And what happened is they took so long, they let a lot of the statutes and limitations expire to where the penalties that the Bidens were going to have to plead guilty to kept shrinking and shrinking and shrinking until there was nothing left.

[James Comer]

Yeah, and Hunters serving zero jail time.

[Unnamed IRS Whistleblower]

That's right. Zero jail time. Anyone else in America would already be in prison for the amount of money they evaded.

[James Comer]

All right, so let's start at an initial point. These two whistleblowers. Look, an initial assessment you've got to make. The House of Representatives has to make. If we see an impeachment trial, the Senate has to make, and ultimately the American people have to make is, are these guys credible? Are they telling the truth? If they're lying?

[Unnamed IRS Whistleblower]

Right.

[James Comer]

That. That's not very persuasive. And so if you're trying to assess. All right, are these credible witnesses? One of the questions you ask is, do they have a bias? You know, if you have a witness who is, say, a disgruntled employee that got fired, sometimes they make up all sorts of crazy stories. If you have a witness who's a partisan, maybe they're, you know, a hardcore Republican. They hate Joe Biden, and so they'll come in and testify to something nasty because they've got a political bias. So one of the things that I think is striking is that both of these guys, they're career IRS employees. They've spent their entire professional life working at the irs. They're both Democrats. Neither of them are partisan Republicans. I don't know if anyone asked today, but I suspect neither of them voted for Donald Trump.

[Unnamed IRS Whistleblower]

I think that's a good suspicion.

[James Comer]

You know, they've said they're Democrats, they've identified as Democrats. The number of career IRS employees who are Democrats who voted for Donald Trump, if that's not zero, it's pretty darn close.

[Unnamed IRS Whistleblower]

Very close.

[James Comer]

So that suggests there's not a reason on the face to doubt what they're saying. They still might be lying. You've got to test what they're saying. Anyone that comes forward with serious allegations of criminality. And to be clear, what they've alleged is criminality by Hunter Biden. But look, if we were just talking about Hunter Biden, he is a troubled soul. He has substance abuse issues. If it were just Hunter Biden, this wouldn't be national news. But they're also alleging criminal conduct by Merrick Garland, the Attorney General of the United States under Joe Biden, and they are ultimately alleging criminal conduct by Joe Biden, the sitting President of the United States.

[Unnamed IRS Whistleblower]

They were. And they were headed towards Joe. They wanted to interview Hunter. They wanted to interview Joe Biden's grandchildren. They were.

[Ted Cruz]

When you say they, so people understand, who is they?

[Unnamed IRS Whistleblower]

They is.

[James Comer]

Yeah. Who are the two witnesses?

[Unnamed IRS Whistleblower]

There were more than two. There were seven that were set to interview Joe, Hunter Biden and his children.

[Ted Cruz]

So they had a plan in place.

[Unnamed IRS Whistleblower]

They had a plan. It was IRS employees as well as FBI employees.

[Ted Cruz]

So were they working together or separately?

[Unnamed IRS Whistleblower]

Working together.

[Ted Cruz]

So they all come together.

[Ben Shapiro]

They'd all agree that they should be interviewed.

[Unnamed IRS Whistleblower]

They've gotten to the point to where they, we need to knock on his door and say, hey, where is all this? What's the source of this money? What did you do to receive this.

[James Comer]

Money from the enemies? Now you said, we're going to knock on his door. One of the things that I found really stunning is what the testimony was that they're getting ready to knock on Hunter Biden's door. And if you're doing an investigation, you go knock on a suspect's door, you want to interview them, you want to catch them off guard, you want to get them to say something they're not expecting. Like, you want them to get them to say something stupid? Because the sad thing is, criminals really are stupid. They say all sorts of dumb things. So what did the whistleblowers tell us happened that is unusual when they're getting ready to knock on Hunter's door?

[Unnamed IRS Whistleblower]

The Secret Service, because at the time they were going to knock on Hunter's door, was at the point where Joe Biden had just gotten elected president. So he had Secret Service protection, and he had the transition team. The Secret Service was notified that Hunter Biden was about to be approached by IRS and FBI employees. And then the Biden transition team was approached. Then the Biden lawyers called Hunter Biden, and then they called the FBI agents and the IRS agents and said, don't knock on that door. If he wants to come out, he'll come out and talk to you. Just wait. Well, they waited, and nothing Ever happened. And then they were told to go home.

[Ted Cruz]

So they were there at his house.

[Unnamed IRS Whistleblower]

They were there at his house.

[James Comer]

So let me underscore. The Department of Justice tipped off Hunter. Hey, they're coming to question you. And Hunter called in his lawyers and they said, don't talk to him.

[Ted Cruz]

Don't go outside.

[James Comer]

Like in any other circumstance, if you're investigating criminal conduct, do you tip off the suspect beforehand?

[Unnamed IRS Whistleblower]

And they said that today? No, they said that never happened. In their decade long service to the.

[Ted Cruz]

Irs, when they were told to go home, who told them to go home? Their superior at the IRS Was that unprecedented?

[Unnamed IRS Whistleblower]

From their testimony, they said that never happened before.

[James Comer]

All right, you talked about suspicious activity reports and there's been some discussion of this. Look, if you're at home, you're watching tv, you're trying to figure out what these are. What is a suspicious activity report? And like, when is it made? When does it occur?

[Unnamed IRS Whistleblower]

I knew a lot about these because I was the director of a bank for over a decade. A suspicious activity report is when the bank files notice with the Treasury Cabinet that they suspect their client has committed a crime. Doesn't mean they committed a crime. They have a strong suspicion that a crime was committed. So it's to protect the bank as well.

[James Comer]

So how frequently do these things happen?

[Unnamed IRS Whistleblower]

Very seldom. Despite what the Washington Post or in their defense of the Biden, they say, well, everybody has a suspicious activity report. That is baloney. I was on a Bank board for 10 years. I think we issued two over the course of 10 years.

[James Comer]

And how many were issued concerning Hunter Biden and Joe Biden and the Biden family?

[Unnamed IRS Whistleblower]

Over 170. They were direct.

[James Comer]

You were on a bank and they issued two in how many years?

[Unnamed IRS Whistleblower]

If you had two SARs, they're called SARs in the banking industry, if you had two SARs against you, it would be hard for you to open an account somewhere. There wouldn't be any bank that would want to have you as a customer because it's not worth the paperwork. Remember when the bank files one of these, you can understand this. Appreciate this, Senator. That's inviting the regulators to come in and regulate. Okay. That's the last thing the bank.

[James Comer]

So 170 get filed. That means that somebody's getting a deposit in their account. It's a big amount, it's from somewhere suspicious. I mean, what triggers it? Why you're a banker. What is it that makes you say we got to file a sarcastic.

[Unnamed IRS Whistleblower]

A large transaction that comes out of the blue.

[James Comer]

And what's Large. Is there a threshold?

[Unnamed IRS Whistleblower]

You had a. I'll use the Robinson Walker account because we subpoenaed. That was the first bank account we subpoenaed.

[James Comer]

Now, who's Robinson Walker?

[Unnamed IRS Whistleblower]

Rob Walker was one of the associates that they used to funnel money from China and then. And Romania and then down and launder it down to the Biden.

[James Comer]

So he's a guy that's doing business with Hunter and Joe Biden.

[Unnamed IRS Whistleblower]

Yeah.

[James Comer]

Okay.

[Unnamed IRS Whistleblower]

We don't know what that business is, but they got a $3 million wire from China. So this. So one wire, $3 million.

[James Comer]

$3 million.

[Unnamed IRS Whistleblower]

Now, remember, we got the bank records. For 10 years, that bank account never.

[James Comer]

Had you ever gotten a $3 million wire?

[Ted Cruz]

No, but I want one.

[James Comer]

He called the Chinese. Look, Ben is a charming guy and he would like $3 million. He's not going to do a damn thing.

[Ted Cruz]

No, you don't have to work for 3 million.

[Unnamed IRS Whistleblower]

Apparently. So this account never had much activity in it over the course of 10 years, maintained around a 40 or $50,000 balance. Then one day, out of the blue, they get a $3 million wire from China.

[James Comer]

And so their bank says, this is weird.

[Unnamed IRS Whistleblower]

Yes.

[James Comer]

And it's coming from China. Like, on the face of it, it's.

[Ted Cruz]

You know it's coming from China.

[Unnamed IRS Whistleblower]

Yeah. And he'd never gotten a foreign wire before. And there's $3 million in an account that's never had more than 50,000. Some months, you know, it had $10,000 balance, but never more than 50,000. Then all of a sudden, a 3 million dollar wire.

[James Comer]

And then what happens to that $3.

[Unnamed IRS Whistleblower]

Million when it lands 24 hours later? Because that's the minimum amount of time you can. You have to have a deposit in the bank for at least.

[James Comer]

Like the wire needs to clear.

[Unnamed IRS Whistleblower]

Yeah, it needs to clear.

[James Comer]

Yep.

[Unnamed IRS Whistleblower]

24 hours and two minutes later, he starts.

[James Comer]

Are you serious?

[Unnamed IRS Whistleblower]

Yes.

[James Comer]

Like, really 24 hours and 2 minutes?

[Unnamed IRS Whistleblower]

Maybe an hour. Give me an hour. And go. It was more than two. Like 56 minutes.

[James Comer]

Okay, 19 Pinocchios, because you added 50 minutes to it.

[Unnamed IRS Whistleblower]

So.

[James Comer]

But it's just after 24 hours.

[Unnamed IRS Whistleblower]

After 24 hours, the next day they start wiring incremental payments to different Biden shell companies.

[James Comer]

So how many Biden shell companies?

[Unnamed IRS Whistleblower]

And you know what that's called when you set up a bunch of shell companies for the sole purpose to launder money? That's called racketeering.

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[Ted Cruz]

All right, I'm going to ask you. I call these dumb questions, but they're important questions for people that understand this.

[James Comer]

Works and I'll intervene. Look, one of the great things about this podcast, we try to ask lots of dumb questions.

[Ted Cruz]

Yes.

[James Comer]

And I'll tell you, James, actually the sort of vision for this podcast, we launched it four years ago. We launched this podcast on the first night of the very first Donald Trump impeachment. And that night we started actually at midnight. We're reliving our origins because I left the Senate floor from the trial of the Trump impeachment and I went to a studio and we recorded verdict. And I remember the first few times we did it, we'd get into things and our early production team, they said, okay, Ted, you're getting too complicated. This is too detailed. And they said, dumb it down. And I said, look, people don't want dumbed down. People are smart, they care about it. Now, what they do want is understandable. And here's the analogy I've used a bunch of times. If you have a terrible disease, you go into the doctor. You don't want the doctor to tell you, james, you got a boo boo like you want the doctor. If I got a problem, tell Me what the heck's like what's going on, Doc? But you don't want him to talk to you in a way that you need like a medical degree and expertise. So what we try to do and what Ben is doing, asking dumb questions is to say, okay, we keep hearing about suspicious activity reports. What is that like a shell company? What is a shell. Yeah, you hear shell company and like what does that mean for some?

[Ted Cruz]

And explain the shell companies connecting to money laundering, how those two come together. Because a lot of people that hear this but they don't understand why you need so many of them and why you would siphon money into multiple shell companies.

[Unnamed IRS Whistleblower]

I come from the banking background and I spent money. People want to know this for me. I mean it has double edged sword there. But a shell company is a fake company. Okay?

[James Comer]

It's a company that, so it's not a real business. It's not making widgets.

[Unnamed IRS Whistleblower]

They don't make anything, they don't produce anything, they don't provide a good or service.

[James Comer]

Okay. They're just a corporate entity that's graded on paper.

[Unnamed IRS Whistleblower]

We can go to the Texas or Kentucky Secretary of State and file a company in two minutes that says Cruise and Colmer Energy company. But that doesn't mean we have an energy company. We just have an LLC limited liability company that says we're a energy company. So they just create these fake companies.

[James Comer]

And how many are we talking about?

[Unnamed IRS Whistleblower]

20.

[James Comer]

20.

[Unnamed IRS Whistleblower]

20.

[James Comer]

So 20 different Biden fake companies. They don't have factories, they don't have machinery, they don't have products, they don't own real estate, they don't have a.

[Unnamed IRS Whistleblower]

Website, they don't have a business card. They don't.

[James Comer]

So they're 20 companies, they don't have.

[Ted Cruz]

A storefront, they have nothing. Okay, and so that's where the laundering.

[Unnamed IRS Whistleblower]

Yes.

[Ted Cruz]

So explain how you launder money and how that works.

[Unnamed IRS Whistleblower]

Money laundering is hid. You're hiding the source of the money and you're deceiving the Internal Revenue Service to try to evade taxes. So if Hunter Biden was doing something legitimate for China, they could have just wired the money to Hunter Biden, but they didn't. They sent it to a company called Robinson Walker. Then they wired it to a company called Owasco. Then they wired it to another company called Bohe something or another. And then they start and do these.

[James Comer]

Companies do anything with it or they're just, it's just, it's just like a bucket to pour the water in. They pour it in another place somewhere.

[Unnamed IRS Whistleblower]

Else that's exactly what it. And it was organized. This is like organized crime. This was very organized.

[James Comer]

So how did you unwind this? So you're sitting there doing a congressional investigation. If they're trying to hide it, presumably they make it hard to figure out. So. So what enabled you to 20 shell companies? How do you figure this out and connect the dots?

[Unnamed IRS Whistleblower]

Well, there was a. We had a good start. Your colleagues Grassley and Johnson had done a report. Miranda Devine had written a book. There were several good reporters that had been investigating on this for a long time. We took pieces of that. And then when I became chairman and got subpoena power, then I was able to actually subpoena bank records.

[James Comer]

And the banks cooperated.

[Unnamed IRS Whistleblower]

Most of the banks have cooperated. It's getting harder because here's what happened. Everyone on cable news, some people that I don't think are as smart a legal mind as you, Ted, were giving me lots of advice on what to do. The first thing they need to do on day one is subpoena Hunter and Joe Biden. I didn't do that. And I think that would have been a huge mistake. I think that's what they thought I would do. If I had done that, it would have ended up in court. Then if I had subpoenaed some of these bank accounts, the bank would have said, we can't give that to you because there's ongoing litigation.

[James Comer]

Right. So what we did, you started by gathering.

[Unnamed IRS Whistleblower]

We started by subpoenaing bank records for shell accounts. Now, some of these companies had been abandoned because they never were real companies.

[Ted Cruz]

Yeah. They never sold anything.

[Unnamed IRS Whistleblower]

They never did anything to hide the money they were getting from China and Romania and Ukraine. So those bank accounts.

[James Comer]

So let me stop you real quick. Are those the three countries that are involved so far? China, Romania and Ukraine. But all three of them, you've got payments from China, from Romania and Ukraine going to Hunter Biden, Joe Biden, or the Biden family.

[Unnamed IRS Whistleblower]

Is that right?

[James Comer]

Yes.

[Unnamed IRS Whistleblower]

Not to Joe Biden yet, but to everyone else in the Biden family.

[Ted Cruz]

How many Bidens have. Have you identified they've gotten money so far?

[Unnamed IRS Whistleblower]

Nine.

[Ted Cruz]

And I think when you say identify.

[James Comer]

Yeah. What's the.

[Ted Cruz]

What's the criteria?

[James Comer]

I've heard the number 12. So what's the.

[Unnamed IRS Whistleblower]

We actually have nine.

[James Comer]

So you were proved nine.

[Unnamed IRS Whistleblower]

We proved nine. I'm. I would bet a lot of money, if I were on the craps table, I would put odds behind three more members of the family.

[Ted Cruz]

When you fight, when you say there's.

[Unnamed IRS Whistleblower]

Nine, the Reason we haven't gone after the brother yet. And the brother.

[James Comer]

The brother's Jim. That's Joe.

[Unnamed IRS Whistleblower]

Joe's. And Frank. Don't forget about Frank.

[James Comer]

I have forgotten about Frank. Okay. So I hear about Jim. All right, so how many? Joe has two brothers.

[Unnamed IRS Whistleblower]

Two brothers.

[James Comer]

And so I got to say, one of the things I've wondered. In fact, I was having dinner with some folks tonight who asked me. They said, okay, Hunter's been indicted. What about Jim? Like, what about Jim?

[Ted Cruz]

Jim was the big dog of this entity before Hunter Biden came along.

[Unnamed IRS Whistleblower]

Correct. Why Jim's not in the. In the news right now. He didn't leave a laptop laying around. But I'll tell you what Jim has done. He's in court in about four or five different states being sued by former partners for fraud.

[Ted Cruz]

Really?

[Unnamed IRS Whistleblower]

Yes.

[Ted Cruz]

Why has that not been covered?

[Unnamed IRS Whistleblower]

Well, you tell me. So we'll get to the point to where we'll start subpoenaing his bank records. I think some of these cases, part of the reason we can't get it.

[James Comer]

Because he's in litigation at the 9 or 12. You've got Hunter, you've got Jim and Frank. That's three. Who are we talking about as the rest? Who are the other players?

[Unnamed IRS Whistleblower]

The other players are Frank. Frank's wife.

[James Comer]

So Frank's wife.

[Unnamed IRS Whistleblower]

And we believe that Jim's got family members, too, that may have received wires. And then ultimately with Joe, I suspect there are offshore accounts, and we kind of learned that today. One of the last questions.

[James Comer]

So what's the evidence of offshore accounts that you learned today?

[Unnamed IRS Whistleblower]

There are the IRS whistleblowers, confirmed when I asked if they had documents pertaining to foreign accounts, and they said they did.

[Ted Cruz]

Wow.

[Unnamed IRS Whistleblower]

They couldn't turn them over to us. They have to go through that process and turn it over to the Ways and Means Committee, and I requested they do that, and they said they would.

[James Comer]

So the $3 million that you saw transferred in, you said that got transferred out. Where all did it go?

[Unnamed IRS Whistleblower]

So Rob Walker kept a third of it. There was another guy.

[Ted Cruz]

That's a good business partnership, right? You help launder money. You don't do anything.

[James Comer]

Look, I'm not sure.

[Ted Cruz]

And you get a third.

[James Comer]

I'm not sure the exact pricing on it, but I think that's better than Pimpsky. Yeah.

[Ted Cruz]

Yeah.

[James Comer]

I don't know, but I think they take a third.

[Unnamed IRS Whistleblower]

Somebody else got a third, and then the Biden.

[Ted Cruz]

Do we know who somebody else is? Or do you?

[Unnamed IRS Whistleblower]

And you can't say, no, I do. We put that In a report.

[James Comer]

All right, so somebody else got a third.

[Unnamed IRS Whistleblower]

Somebody else got a third. And then The Biden's got 1.3 million.

[James Comer]

Of the 3 million and 1.3 to different Biden family members.

[Unnamed IRS Whistleblower]

Yes.

[James Comer]

Okay.

[Unnamed IRS Whistleblower]

And that's just from one pageant transaction went to four different Biden family members.

[James Comer]

So that was one suspicious activity one.

[Ted Cruz]

And there's 100. How many?

[Unnamed IRS Whistleblower]

169 more. Plus just because. Okay, those were suspicious activity reports that were created by Joe or Hunter Biden. Then they were the subject of another hundred suspicious activity reports.

[Ted Cruz]

So that's 270 if you're counting individually, at least.

[James Comer]

So if you're the Treasury Department, because Treasury is getting these, these sars.

[Unnamed IRS Whistleblower]

Yes.

[James Comer]

What do they do with the sar? Just generally speaking, they're supposed to turn.

[Unnamed IRS Whistleblower]

It over to the IRS investigators, which they knew about the sar. So that part of the equation worked. Somehow the Swiss blowers knew about the suspicious activity report.

[Ted Cruz]

All right, I asked these questions because.

[Ben Shapiro]

This is complicated for a lot of people.

[Ted Cruz]

So normal course of business, a bank fills out a SARS report walk what normal is compared to what actually happened with them.

[Unnamed IRS Whistleblower]

Normally, if you get. Normally. And here's what the suspicious activity report said. I had access and I've read them all at treasury. They said they suspected they were money laundering. They suspected they had.

[James Comer]

And this is from multiple banks. It's not just one.

[Unnamed IRS Whistleblower]

Yes, multiple banks, banks. You've heard of J.P. morgan, Wells Fargo, U.S. bank. These are bank of America big banks.

[James Comer]

These are serious banks with real lawyers that like know what.

[Unnamed IRS Whistleblower]

And they knew who they were. They said this is a politically exposed person. They suspected some of these wires were coming from state owned entities. They said that from some of the.

[Ted Cruz]

Okay, so you're going to explain that.

[James Comer]

What that means communist government.

[Unnamed IRS Whistleblower]

Yes.

[James Comer]

Is sending the money.

[Unnamed IRS Whistleblower]

Yes, According to Morgan.

[Ted Cruz]

And the whistleblower in that scenario is the bank who's saying that, the whistleblower.

[Ben Shapiro]

So J.P. morgan is saying, we believe.

[Unnamed IRS Whistleblower]

J.P. morgan, Wells Fargo, bank of America.

[Ted Cruz]

So they write this suspicious activity report.

[James Comer]

Like all of those banks, JP Morgan, their CEO Jamie Dimon is a prominent Democrat. I mean, none of these banks are Republicans. None of these banks have it out for the Biden.

[Unnamed IRS Whistleblower]

We've lost Wall Street. They're all Democrats.

[James Comer]

Yeah, I mean, that's not. So these are all banks that are reliable political donors to the Democrats that are nonetheless looking at reports saying, wow, this is really concerning.

[Ted Cruz]

But they're writing in the report. I'm in shock by this. You've seen a lot more of this stuff in the legal world than I have. I'm genuinely in shock right now. The fact that you're telling me that an American bank is writing that we believe a wire transfer coming into the Biden family is coming from the Chinese Communist government, not an entity laundering. It's money. And we're saying it's money laundering on top of it coming from the Chinese Communist government. Is that the moment when you said, holy crap, yeah.

[Unnamed IRS Whistleblower]

Wire fraud, tax fraud, money laundering.

[Ted Cruz]

So they're naming all the things they think.

[James Comer]

All right, so then treasury reports it to irs, they begin investigating. When did they open the investigation to Hunter Biden?

[Unnamed IRS Whistleblower]

2018. I know they were investigating in 2018. It could have been earlier.

[James Comer]

So at least five years.

[Unnamed IRS Whistleblower]

Yes.

[James Comer]

Now this investigation, look, if it's been at least five years, that they just announced an indictment weeks ago, that's a long time. What took them five years.

[Unnamed IRS Whistleblower]

They were stonewalled the whole time. They said they couldn't do it. They were ready to go at the 2020 election and they were told by the Deputy US Attorney Wolf in Delaware, oh, the optics are bad. We can't do this before an election. And they told him to stand down. And then once Joe Biden.

[James Comer]

So it's DOJ that was stonewalling them.

[Unnamed IRS Whistleblower]

Yes.

[James Comer]

All right, let's talk about. So a number of the potential offenses that Hunter Biden committed. The statute of limitations is run on.

[Unnamed IRS Whistleblower]

Yes.

[James Comer]

The most serious tax crimes he's committed, statute of limitations is run on. Why? What happened?

[Unnamed IRS Whistleblower]

Because they were told to wait. They couldn't do it because of the election. Then once he became president, they're like, well, we don't need to do this. You have to understand this. This is what they said today. They knew that Hunter Biden committed a bunch of crimes. They felt like all roads were leading to Joe Biden and that's what was making the Department of Justice nervous because they, they weren't idiots. They knew, they didn't feel, they were that concerned about Hunter Biden. It's just they were worried, okay, what's he doing to get this money? There's no legitimate business here. It has to be something his father's done. And good God, he's the President of the United States now. We don't want.

[Ted Cruz]

Can you explain statute of limitations? A lot of people, it sounds normal legal role, but I think it's important that we explain this. When you have a five year window as it's described, Right. You've got five years on some of these crimes that you should, you have Five years to basically charge someone with that crime. Once you're outside that five years, you cannot charge them for that crime. Even if you know they committed the crime.

[Unnamed IRS Whistleblower]

That's right.

[James Comer]

And look, a statute of limitations is really important. You know, if you were in high school and you knocked off a liquor store. Not saying you did. I'm not saying you didn't. Yeah, but if you did in high school, I did not notice how quickly.

[Ted Cruz]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[James Comer]

But even if you did, there's a statute of limitations. The idea is you shouldn't have to face the possibility for criminal prosecution 5, 10, 20 years after something happened. Because if someone charged you with something you did 20 years ago. And by the way, it's more than 20 years ago, you were in high school. Yeah, Just. Just to make it.

[Ted Cruz]

I know, I'm getting old. I know, I know I'm getting old.

[James Comer]

But look, if someone charged you, how would you defend yourself?

[Ted Cruz]

Yeah.

[James Comer]

Like you don't have any evidence for 20 years. Part of the reason of a statute of limitations is it's impossible to defend yourself from something so long ago. There are no witnesses, there are no records. So the idea is if you commit a crime, there's a period of time for which you're liable. But it also means if you get past the statute of limitations, you can't prosecute.

[Ted Cruz]

And prosecutors know the statute of limitations.

[James Comer]

It is critical.

[Unnamed IRS Whistleblower]

And you focus on these guys knew it, they knew it was getting close and they were still told to stand down.

[James Comer]

All right, so the most important thing that I heard James say is that the investigation all understood that the real focus of the criminality was Joe Biden.

[Ted Cruz]

Yeah.

[James Comer]

And that they wanted to investigate Joe Biden.

[Ted Cruz]

Hunter really wasn't important.

[James Comer]

And that the Department of Justice blocked them, interfered obstructed with their going after Joe Biden. That's a big damn deal. And you know what? If you want to hear more about that, this is a two part series. You got to listen. Tomorrow, tomorrow we're going to do the second half, which is Joe Biden's direct criminal liability and how the Department of Justice obstructed justice, covered it up, blocked the investigation. We're going to do that interview right.

[Ted Cruz]

Now and make sure that you share this because this is why we're doing this. People need to take this, put it on social media, it's on Facebook, it's on YouTube. If you're listening to the podcast, share that as well so that everybody knows what's going on. This is what the media is not covering. Make this go viral and ask yourself.

[James Comer]

Have you heard this on tv? Have you read about this in the paper? Has anyone explained what a suspicious activity report is? Has anyone explained how strange it is that there are 170 of them? This podcast exists to give you the facts that you can't get watching TV news you can't get reading the newspaper. So share this. Like it, get others to watch it and watch part two that's coming out tomorrow.

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