The 47 Morning Update with Ben Ferguson
Episode: The Case of California's Disappearing Billions
Date: February 12, 2026
Host: Ben Ferguson (Premiere Networks)
Overview
In this episode, Ben Ferguson examines a staggering case of fraud involving California’s homelessness and welfare programs, spotlighting the arrest of Alexander Sucher, who allegedly embezzled tens of millions in public funds. The podcast features investigative commentary, insights into wider fraud across California’s government programs, and the personal account of whistleblower Nick Shirley. The theme centers on public corruption, lack of state oversight, and the urgent need for accountability—delivered in Ben Ferguson’s direct, critical style.
Key Discussion Points & Insights
1. Breaking News: Massive Fraud in California
- Ben introduces the episode by comparing recent fraud in Minnesota to new findings in California, asserting the scale is "truly unbelievable."
- Focus is placed on Alexander Sucher, accused of stealing over $23 million intended for homeless services in Los Angeles.
2. Details of the Alexander Sucher Case ([03:25]–[05:30])
- Fox News report (Matt Finn): Reports federal agents arrested Sucher at his LA mansion, seizing luxury goods bought with stolen taxpayer funds.
- Quote:
"The Fed say Sucre defrauded the city and county of LA out of $23 million in taxpayer dollars for not only his mansion and car, but a second home in Greece, luxury vacations, designer clothes and private schools." – Matt Finn, [03:45]
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- Sucher’s non-profit was supposed to provide three meals daily to the homeless. Inspections revealed only canned beans and ramen noodles were available.
- The US Attorney's office is investigating at least a dozen more similar cases.
- Quote:
"California was pushing this money out quickly. A lot of money went out the door with frankly very little vetting, very little checks and balances and he's one of the individuals that got it." – Analyst/guest, [05:17]
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3. Larger Pattern of Fraud and Lack of Oversight
- State programs rapidly disbursed funds with minimal vetting or oversight.
- Sucher faces up to 20 years in federal prison; local prosecution is also forthcoming.
4. Whistleblower Nick Shirley on California’s Systemic Issues ([07:31]–[09:26])
- Nick Shirley, known for uncovering similar fraud in Minneapolis, claims California is "even worse."
- Quote:
"Oh, there's massive fraud in California. I mean the homelessness has just increased as they receive more money. That's just one part of it... The fraud is like crazy in California and they have the highest taxes." – Nick Shirley, [07:31]
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- Conversation covers the legal tool “Qui Tam,” allowing citizens to sue on the state's behalf and possibly recover a share of recaptured funds.
- Nick states he’s received invitations to pursue legal action and discusses accepting donations and information through his social media.
- Quote:
"I actually had somebody reach out to me the other day about it. So I'm going to actually hop on a phone call with that guy." — Nick Shirley, [08:11]
- Quote:
"Yeah, it's just Nick Shirley and if you go on X, I do have my tip section open. So if you would like to donate there, that gives them all the, whether it be Venmo Cash app crypto, you can all do it right there." — Nick Shirley, [09:16]
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5. California’s Multi-Billion Dollar Losses ([09:27]–[11:34])
- Ben Ferguson outlines further fraud in state government and programs, referencing info from Benny Johnson and California’s state auditor:
- $70 billion in taxpayer funds "lost" with no accounting.
- $24 billion in homelessness funds unaccounted for.
- $18 billion wasted on non-existent high-speed rail.
- $32 billion in missing Covid relief.
- $2.5 billion in SNAP (food stamp) fraud.
- Billions spent on wildfire rebuilds but “no homes have been built.”
- Quote:
"State auditor in California found. Ready for this? 70 billion... Think about that number. 70 billion in taxpayer funds that have been lost like they just disappeared. No accounting for them whatsoever." — Ben Ferguson, [10:47]
- Ben expresses outrage at the lack of oversight and pins blame on Governor Gavin Newsom’s administration:
"The taxpayer-funded nonprofits there are are embezzling our money by the billions. And the Governor is allowing it to happen." — Ben Ferguson, [11:31]
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
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On the sheer scale of fraud:
"This is just one person... more than $23 million. I'll say it again, this is just one person." – Ben Ferguson, [03:14]
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From the Fox News segment:
"He was living the high life while the people suffering homeless on the streets with no shelter, no food, they're living out in the streets. People are literally dying and this guy is out vacationing, buying homes, buying Range Rovers and going shopping." – Analyst, [04:25]
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On Nick Shirley’s activism:
"I'm just going to be out here exposing all this waste, fraud and abuse. Like, that's what I'm doing with my life now. I'm not afraid." – Ben Ferguson, [09:27]
Timestamps for Important Segments
- [03:25] – Fox News coverage of Alexander Sucher’s arrest and scale of fraud
- [04:42] – Details on homelessness program failures, fake vendors, fake facilities
- [05:17] – Analysis of California's rushed and poorly vetted disbursement process
- [07:31] – Whistleblower Nick Shirley discusses arriving in California
- [08:11] – Discussion of possible whistleblower lawsuits (“Qui Tam” actions)
- [09:16] – Nick Shirley provides contact information for tips and donations
- [09:27]–[11:34] – Ben recounts additional multi-billion dollar state-level missing funds and systemic fraud
Summary Flow
- The episode begins with alarming news of an individual’s multi-million dollar fraud in LA, expands to describe a pattern of public sector corruption in California, and features an interview with a prominent whistleblower.
- The tone is incredulous and outraged, especially regarding government failures and taxpayer losses.
- Ferguson and his guests encourage audience vigilance and whistleblowing, laying blame on political leadership while calling for reform and accountability.
For listeners:
This episode provides an in-depth look at massive alleged public fraud in California, using vivid language and news clips, and features ground-level insights from a nationally recognized investigator. It’s a sobering and passionate exploration of how billions of public dollars can vanish—and what can be done about it.
