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Welcome. It is verdict with Senator Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson with you, Center. We got really not a lot to talk about today. It's it is America. First. You got 60 days to figure out what you want to do. And after that we don't play around. What a message to the world with what just happened in Iran.
Ted Cruz
Well, this weekend was incredibly consequential. President Trump made the decision to take out Iran's nuclear capability. Israel had been bombing Iran for over a week, and yet there were certain facilities, particularly the Fordow facility under a mountain in Iran, that Israel lacked the capability to take out. And we talked about this at great length. Tucker Carlson and I went round and round on this. Tucker did not want the United States to engage in this bombing. I believed that we should act decisively to stop Iran from developing nuclear weapons that they could use to murder Americans. And this weekend, President Trump resolved the issue by ordering an incredibly successful attack, an incredibly beautifully orchestrated attack that devastated Iran's nuclear capability with no casualties on our part. We're going to break it down. We're going to talk about what exactly happened, what the consequences are, and what to expect in the days and weeks coming up.
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Ted Cruz
Well, that's exactly right. President Trump gave Iran 60 days to reach a deal. The deal, the terms he set out was that the deal must entail complete and total dismantlement of their nuclear weapons capability. Every centrifuge being dismantled, being shut down. Iran took the entire 60 days. And then on the 60th day, the Ayatollah announced, nothing. We give you nothing. We will not dismantle a single centrifuge. We will build more centrifuges. We're going to keep enriching weapons, keep enriching uranium. And the entire purpose is to develop a nuclear weapon to be able to use it against Israel, or more to the point, against the United States of America. On the 61st day, Israel began the aerial assault with incredible precision, I gotta say, by the way, the precision of the Mossad in terms of identifying senior military officials in Iran, taking out one after the other after the other. You know, every person that got named the chief of staff of the irgc, it seemed within hours they were taken out. Then they named a new chief of staff of the irgc, and within hours he got taken out one after the other after the other. I got to tell you, that call saying, hey, Ben, you're the new chief of staff of the irgc. I think people stopped answering their phone calls. It was almost like they were Hezbollah terrorists getting paged. That was their reaction to it. However, as incredibly effective as Israel's attack was on the senior military leadership, as incredibly effective as Israel's bombing attack was on nuclear facilities, There were certain facilities they did not have the equipment to take out, and chief among those was Fordow. Fordow was built into the base of a gigantic mountain, and it was built to withstand aerial assaults. So at midnight on Friday, the B2 strike package left the continental United States. Part of the package went east, the other part went west as a decoy. The main strike package was comprised of seven B2 bombers which flew for 18 hours into the target area. Those seven B2 bombers dropped 14 bunker buster bombs. Each of those bombs weighs 30,000 pounds. By the way, this is the first battle use of these bombs in history. In addition to that, 75 precision guided weapons were used during the operation. More than 125 US aircraft participated in the mission, including B2 stealth bombers, multiple flights of fourth and fifth generation fighters, dozens of air refueling tankers, a guided missile submarine, and a full array of intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance aircraft, as well as hundreds of maintenance and operational professionals. This attack was a spectacular success. We had no American casualties. The Iranians did not know it was coming. And suddenly the crown jewel of their nuclear weapon operation was destroyed, was devastated, was on fire. Let me start by saying congratulations to the incredible airmen who led this attack, the fighting servicemen and women who risked their lives. This was a dangerous combat operation and who carried it out with absolute precision. But I also want to praise President Trump for having the strength of resolve to say, we will not allow Iran to have a nuclear weapon and we will do whatever it takes to stop it. He was exactly right. I stand with President Trump. And tonight we are saluting our brave servicemen and women and the commander in chief who sent them out to keep America safe.
Ben Ferguson
I want to ask you a question, and we're going to go backwards and talk more obviously about this, this attack and how important it is. But there is a new headline and a real concern that has come up, and that is about, okay, how will Iran retaliate, Senator? And one of the big concerns that's really been brought up, it's being written about right now. I'm seeing articles pop left and right. This is the, the possibility of Iranian sleeper cells in the U.S. you and I have been talking about this now, unfortunately, for years, that the wide open southern border was allowing for people on the terrorist watch list to get into this country. And the numbers are also, I think, shocking of how many Iranians came across our southern border that we just are. The Biden administration say just let them in to this country and, and let him walk freely, and we just let him go. And that is something that every American should be really concerned about right now.
Ted Cruz
Yeah, absolutely. It is a very dangerous time. And understand, I am not remotely Pollyannish about the threats we are facing. You know, you and I talked in the last, last podcast about the interview I did with Tucker Carlson, where he got all agitated and said, well, it could be dangerous if we attack Iran, that all sorts of bad things could happen. I don't deny that. Yes, it is very, very dangerous right now. I just think it is more dangerous to have a theocratic lunatic like the Ayatollah who chants, death to America and death to Israel, who calls Israel the little Satan and calls America the great Satan. To let a lunatic like that have nuclear weapons which could kill millions of Americans. One of the things to understand, you know, a lot of the commentators, particularly those who don't want to see us stand up to Iran, they say, this is all for Israel. This is all for Israel. Listen, I agree with President Trump. We should stand unshakably with Israel. But understand what happened this weekend. This was not for Israel. This was for the United States of America. Why? Because the Ayatollah is actively developing an ICBM program. What does ICBM stand for? Intercontinental ballistic missile. Ben, you don't need an ICBM to go from Iran to Israel. That's not intercontinental. Iran is right now firing hundreds of ballistic missiles into Israel. They need an ICBM for one purpose and one purpose only, which is to carry a nuclear warhead from Iran to the United States of America. They were actively developing the capability to detonate a nuclear bomb over a major American city, whether New York or Washington, D.C. or Los Angeles. And the President acted decisively to say he's not willing to wake up one morning and discover that millions of Americans have been murdered because the Commander in Chief didn't act. This was a threat to America. Now, what are the potential escalations? They're really threefold. The most likely is a continued and even an escalated barrage on Israeli civilians, more ballistic missiles being launched into Israel targeting civilians. And I think there's a very real possibility that we will see potentially hundreds of Israelis killed in the days ahead. That's Iran striking back. Israel and the United States both targeted military facilities, military leaders. Iran is not doing that. Iran is not targeting military facilities. They're deliberately targeting civilians. They're trying to kill little old ladies. They're trying to kill children. They're trying to kill babies. They're lobbing missiles into densely populated urban environments, hoping to kill as many Jews as possible. That's one escalation. A second escalation that is a very real possibility is an attack on US Servicemen and women in the Middle East. And we have thousands of servicemen and women stationed in the Middle East. Now, I will tell you, President Trump has made unequivocally clear to Iran, do not do this. If you kill American servicemen and women, the consequences will be massive. I spoke with President Trump just over a week ago, And I said, Mr. President, thank you. Thank you for making that clear. You are keeping our servicemen and women alive because Iran knows the consequences of attacking them and trying to kill them are massive. But that's a second escalation that is entirely possible. We could face that in the coming days. The third escalation, Ben, is the one you referenced, which is terrorism here in the United States or abroad. But. But in the United States in particular, we had four years of open borders under Joe Biden. We had 12 million illegal immigrants flood into this country. And I think there is the very real risk of sleeper cells, of Iranian sleeper cells carrying out an act of terrorism, whether targeted at US Servicemen and women, are targeted at civilians, targeted at a shopping mall, targeted at a sporting event, targeted at Some place where they could commit a significant act of mass murder. I pray that that does not happen. I am confident the Trump administration is doing everything humanly possible to protect against it. But the odds of that have gone up. And so all of us need to, number one, be praying. Be praying for our friends in Israel, be praying for our servicemen and women in harm's way, and be praying here in America that we not face a major act of terrorism. But secondly, we need to be vigilant. We need to be watching because it is dangerous right now. But understand, even if some or all of these escalations happen, these escalations are less dangerous than what the world would be like with the Ayatollah with a nuclear weapon that he could use to murder millions of Americans. The chances of that scenario have dropped dramatically this weekend because of President Trump's strong, decisive leadership.
Ben Ferguson
You know, you hear the numbers, by the way, and I just want everyone to hear what Tom Homan had to say on Fox News Sunday Morning. He was talking about the number of nationals of Iran released into the interior of this country. We don't know where they are. Here's what he said about it.
Tom Homan
So I pulled numbers this morning just from a CBP under Joe Biden. There was 1,272 nationals of Iran released in the country between Ofo and the border Patrol. And you compare that to the Trump administration. Zero. Right. Zero releases. And right now, because of President Trump's leadership, we have the most secure border in my lifetime, most secure border in the history of this nation. So we have a secure border. So that was President Trump's big win on securing this nation. So we're not releasing. People in this country, especially aliens, aren't crossing that border undetected. But under Joe Biden, we had over 10 million people cross that border. But my biggest concern from day one, beyond the fentanyl, beyond the sex trafficking women and children, were the two man known gotaways. Over 2 million people crossed that border. We don't know who they are, where they came from, because they got away. Because Border Patrol was so overwhelmed with the humanitarian crisis that Biden created that over 2 million people crossed the border and got away. That is my biggest concern. And that's what created the biggest national security vulnerability this country's ever seen.
Ben Ferguson
You listen to the way he describes this center and he's talking about, look, Iran wanting to hurt us and the possibility of sleeper cells here directly is a border security issue. And so this brings two of the biggest reasons why so many people listening to the show voted for Donald Trump. Why you advocated and so supported him and voted for him as well. And I did too. And it seems like, look, Iran has in essence been waging a slow war on the US and our allies. The Biden administration was asleep, the EU was asleep. Hell, the UN was asleep. And advocating for Iran now and literally we now understand how vulnerable we are because of their actions.
Ted Cruz
1200 Iranian illegal immigrants released into this country by Joe Biden, the Democrats, in any sane world, every Democrat in Congress tomorrow would be asked, why did you release 1200 Iranian illegal immigrants into America? Are you worried about Terrorism from the 1200 Iranian illegal immigrants you released into America? What possible interest did America have in releasing these? The contrast under President Trump, the number is zero, which is what Tom Homan just said. There's. Look, this is an enormous difference. And by the way, 1200 does not limit it. Those are the ones we know they released. As Homan rightly noted, the even more troubling number is 2 million got away. So it could be thousands, it could be tens of thousands of Iranians. We don't know. We just know There are over 2 million people that we have signs they crossed the border and they got away. They evaded detection. So some combination of those are murderers, some are rapists, some are child molesters, some are gang members from Venezuela or elsewhere. And some of those in overwhelming likelihood are terrorists, whether Hamas terrorists, Hezbollah terrorists, Palestinian Islamic Jihad terrorists, or specifically Iranian terrorists. But the danger is serious. And I will say this is a time for law enforcement in every jurisdiction to be vigilant and for citizens to be vigilant, to watch. And you know, in the wake of 9, 11, it was frequently repeated. If you see something, say something. This is a dangerous time. I wish it were not so dangerous. But four years of open borders exposed real vulnerabilities to us. And the one thing I'll say is I have confidence that the Trump administration is doing everything humanly possible to keep us safe. And I think that's important, especially now.
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Ben Ferguson
Let's talk a little bit about the liberal logic that has been coming out of so many Democrats since this attack took place. And the people who seem to be obsessing over Iran's response, implying that their response is Donald Trump's fault, that they're going to respond, are the same idiots that were not afraid of Iran getting a nuclear weapon. Can you explain that liberal logic, please?
Ted Cruz
Sadly, today's Democrat party sides with every enemy of America. They side on the other side. Look, J.K. rowling tweeted this weekend about this person, India Willoughby. Now, I'll confess I have no idea who India Willoughby is, but J.K. rowling tweeted, India, a fan of women hating, gay hating authoritating authoritarian regime. Color me astonished. So I went and googled who is this India Willoughby person and it turns out, according to Wikipedia quote, she is Britain's first transgender national television newsreader. Now pause for a second, Ben. Iran murders transgender people. They throw them off buildings if you are gay, they murder you. And think about the mindset of a leftist who this transgender newsreader in I guess the UK is like, even though the Ayatollah wants to murder me, I stand with the Ayatollah rather than America. That is how messed up leftists are right now. They're like, oh, homicidal, theocratic women oppressing, gay, murdering, torturing, genocidal lunatics. Those are my people.
Ben Ferguson
It doesn't make any sense to me. And then you go back to also the quotes that people have been posting. And I think it's really important that history reflects. You go back to Bill Clinton, Senator, and he said that Iran couldn't get a nuclear weapon. Hillary Clinton, when she was a senator, Secretary of State and running for president, said Iran cannot get a nuclear weapon. Barack Obama said that he could not get a nuclear weapon. You had Joe Biden that said they couldn't get a nuclear weapon. And then they're at 60 plus percent and Donald Trump stops him. And then all of the left's like, you can't do that. You're going to start World War 3. This is somehow your fault. You're the aggressor.
Ted Cruz
And understand the reason we are here is because of Barack Obama and Joe Biden. Barack Obama negotiated the disastrous Iran nuclear deal that flooded billions and billions of dollars into Iran. Listen, remember, Obama literally flew $1.7 billion of cash, unmarked bills on a pallet to deliver to the Ayatollah. That agreement set the stage for Iran to get nuclear weapons. Donald Trump, when he came in as.
Ben Ferguson
President for a second and just now in hind. What really was that deal? Was that deal a. Hey, I don't want to have to deal with you guys, so let's just you kind of play nice with me and then I'll kick the can down the road to another administration. Like, in hindsight, what was that? Why did we do that deal?
Ted Cruz
It was radical ideology. You know, when Barack Obama first became president, he went and gave a speech at the University of Cairo in Egypt. And in that speech he said Iran has a right. And he used the word right.
Donald Trump
Right.
Ted Cruz
A right to nuclear technology. Now that is nutty. That, that, that is. I'm familiar with the right to the pursuit of happiness. I'm not familiar with a right to possess thermonuclear weapons. And at the end of the day, I think Barack Obama and his entire team came in with an ideological view that America's role in the world is fundamentally illegitimate, that we are colonial oppressors. Look, as you know, my last book was Unwoke how to Defeat Cultural Marxism in America. These are the cultural Marxists. They view America as illegitimate, and therefore they. They viewed that we have no business, we have no right stopping Iran from getting nuclear weapons. Listen, the. The Obama Iran nuclear deal would inevitably lead to Iran with nuclear weapons. These guys are not idiots. They knew that. They're fine with that outcome because they believe America has no right to prevent it. My view is, yes, we do. If you've got a lunatic who's saying, death to America and we have the power to stop him from getting nuclear weapons, we will use that power because the Commander in Chief is not going to fail to protect America. And I got to say, by the way, the useful idiots across the globe, you've got the Democrats today who are all chirping about, how dare you act to stop Iran from getting a nuclear weapon. We also had the Secretary of the United Nations, Antonio Guterres, who put out a statement. I'm going to read it to you. Quote, I am gravely alarmed by the use of force by the United States against Iran today. This is a dangerous escalation in a region already on the edge and a direct threat to international peace and security. There is a growing risk that this conflict could rapidly get out of control with catastrophic consequences for civilians, the region and the world. I call on member states to de escalate and to uphold their obligations under the UN Charter and other rules of international law. At this perilous hour, it is critical to avoid a spiral of chaos. There is no military solution. The only path forward is diplomacy. The only hope is peace. What a blithering idiot. I'll tell you what I tweeted today. I tweeted, of course, the UN sides with Iran. Clown face emoji. Clown face emoji. Clown face emoji. The only thing they couldn't decide is which chant they agree with more strongly. Quote, death to Israel or quote, death America. And then I asked a simple question. Remind me again why we are paying their bills.
Ben Ferguson
It's a fair question. And you gotta wonder, what's the even point of being involved if this is. If this is how insane they actually are. So let's move.
Ted Cruz
But by the way, Ben, I also observed, I think Tehran would make a lovely UN headquarters just located right there, maybe on the smoldering ashes of Ford. We can put. Put the UN there and they can all get together with their anti Israel hate and their anti American hate and they can sit there and glow radioactive while. While they talk about developing Developing nuclear weapons to bomb.
Ben Ferguson
At least it would be intellectually honest. Like, where's the un? It's in Tehran. Okay, that makes sense.
Ted Cruz
Look, that's who they. This should not be complicated. Iran. Like, let me ask you, Ben, seriously, put yourself in the head of the UN Secretary General. How do you look at this and say, where do I stand? I know. With Iran, like, what thought process goes through your brain?
Ben Ferguson
Yeah. What's the upside of doing that and why? And especially if you know what Iran just did and how many terrorist organizations they've supported that are just beyond, like, I mean, factually accurate. Hamas, Hezbollah, and the UN's, like, we got you. We're going to cover for you. Don't worry, we got your back. It is. And that's the reason why I think it delegitimizes the United nations to the point where I just roll my eyes at them now. I don't pay attention to what they say.
Ted Cruz
No. They're complete zealots. Now, in contrast, I want you to listen to President Trump Saturday night, as soon as the bombing run was complete. Give a listen to his address to the nation.
Donald Trump
A short time ago, the US military carried out massive precision strikes on the three key nuclear facilities in the Iranian regime. Fordeau, Natanz, and Esfahan. Everybody heard those names for years as they built this horribly destructive enterprise. Our objective was the destruction of Iran's nuclear enrichment capacity and a stop to the nuclear threat posed by the world's number one state sponsor of terror. Tonight, I can report to the world that the strikes were a spectacular military success. Iran's key nuclear enrichment facilities have been completely and totally obliterated. Iran, the bully of the Middle east, must now make peace. If they do not, future attacks will be far greater and a lot easier. For 40 years, Iran has been saying, death to America, death to Israel. They have been killing our people, blowing off their arms, arms blowing off their legs with roadside bombs. That was their specialty. We lost over a thousand people. And hundreds of thousands throughout the Middle east and around the world have died as a direct result of their hate. In particular, so many were killed by their General, Qassem Soleimani. I decided a long time ago that I would not let this happen. It will not continue. I want to thank and congratulate Prime Minister Bibi Netanyahu. We worked as a team like perhaps no team has ever worked before. And we've gone a long way to erasing this horrible threat to Israel. I want to thank the Israeli military for the wonderful job they've done and Most importantly, I want to congratulate the great American patriots who flew those magnificent machines tonight and all of the United States military on an operation the likes of which the world has not seen in many, many decades. Hopefully, we will no longer need their services in this capacity. I hope that's so. I also want to congratulate the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, General Dan Raisin Cain. Spectacular General. And all of the brilliant military minds involved in this attack. With all of that being said, this cannot continue. There will be either peace or there will be tragedy for Iran far greater than we have witnessed over the last eight days. Remember, there are many targets left. Tonight's was the most difficult of them all, by far and perhaps the most lethal. But if peace does not come quickly, we will go after those other targets. We with precision, speed and skill. Most of them can be taken out in a matter of minutes. There's no military in the world that could have done what we did tonight. Not even close. There has never been a military that could do what took place just a little while ago. Tomorrow, General Kaine, Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth will have a press conference at 8am at the Pentagon. And I want to just thank everybody and in particular God. I want to just say we love you God, and we love our great military. Protect them. God bless the Middle East, God bless Israel and God bless America. Thank you very much. Thank you.
Ben Ferguson
I do got to I have to say at the very end there, his part was so sincere about thanking God. You could tell he was very concerned about the safety of our men and women and you uniform. He was so thankful for what they did and accomplished. And there was also, I think a warning in there. We hope that they're done right, that their service is finished. In other words, don't mess with us because if you do, you may meet these people yet again. We don't want to do that, but if you come after American interests, we will defend ourselves and we will come after you. Which brings us to the question center. All right, what's next moving forward?
Ted Cruz
Well, let me say one thing that struck me listening to President Trump on Saturday night, which is the president is old enough and I'm old enough to remember the 1970s. And Ben, you're 10 years younger than I am, so you don't remember the 70s, but when Iran took American hostages at the embassy, when the Iranian revolution happened and they took took American hostages, Jimmy Carter was president. Jimmy Carter sent a military operation, a US military operation to rescue the Americans from the embassy and not all military operations happen like the one did this weekend, the Jimmy Carter military operation. He sent in helicopters and the helicopters crashed in the desert with no opposing fire. And it was a level of ineptitude and incompetence on the part of the Carter administration. It played a pivotal role in Ronald Reagan winning in 1980 because the inability of the President to protect our nation was perfectly encapsulated by our troops crashing in the desert. When the President, when the commander in chief gave this order, he didn't know what the result would be. It could have resulted in an American plane crashing. It could have resulted in an American bomber being shot down by a fighter plane. It could have resulted in American bomber being hit by surface to air missiles. These are dangerous operations. We had these Stealth bombers fly halfway around the world, carry out an incredibly precise precision bombing attack. By the way, it also could have resulted in one of the bombs going awry. And instead of taking out one of these facilities, hitting a civilian location and killing a large number of innocent people, none of that happened. And I want to credit the military, the military for their precise execution of this. But I think when the President was thanking God, listen, you and I have never been in the position of ordering our servicemen and women into combat in a circumstance where, you know, that order could literally be sacrificing their lives. And I think the President was feeling real gratitude that this operation proceeded so successfully. It was the right thing to do. And even if it had proceeded with American casualties, we obviously would not want those casualties. But I think the President was very much focused on his responsibility to protect American civilians from the threat of an ayatollah with a nuclear weapon. That's what he was acting decisively to do. This could escalate further. But I think the President is laser focused on his job. And let me be clear, there's some voices chirping on the Internet. Oh, it's World War Three. Oh, we're going to get drawn into to it. A long foreign entanglement.
Ben Ferguson
Boots are going to be on the ground before you know it.
Ted Cruz
The odds, right, the odds of American boots on the ground in Iran are essentially zero. No one is advocating that. No one wants to see it. I do not believe President Trump has any interest in American boots on the ground. I don't have any interest in American boots on the ground. This was a limited and very targeted bombing run to take out Iran's capability to develop nuclear weapons, nuclear weapons they could use to murder Americans. That is peace through strength. That is focusing on defending this nation and so the prospect, you know, people are saying, oh, this is another Iraq war. Listen, I oppose the Iraq war. Donald Trump opposes the Iraq, Iraq war. Nobody wants a long American war in the Middle East. But what we do want is what we have, a commander in chief who is strong and who will act decisively to protect our nation. That's what the President did. And I, for one, am immensely grateful that Donald J. Trump is the commander in chief tonight.
Ben Ferguson
Final question. And this is what is next. It's very clear there's a warning from this president. Don't screw with us. Moving forward, forward. If Iran is dumb enough to retaliate against Americans in the Middle east, maybe even shutting down the Strait of Hormuz, what is the president's obligation moving forward on that?
Ted Cruz
Well, one of the consequences of the bombing run is the parliament in Iran did vote to shut down the Straits of Hormuz. Now, the parliament's not the decision maker. At the end of the day, the Ayatollah is the decision maker. So it's not clear if Iran is going to do do so or not. If it did so, it would impact America, but it would impact China even more. Roughly half of the oil that China uses travels through the Straits of Hormuz. A very small percentage of American oil travels through there. But that, but that being said, if the Straits of Hormuz were shut down, it would impact America because it would drive up global oil prices, it would drive up gasoline prices at home, and that would impact Americans. I hope that doesn't happen. I think if they try to shut down those major trade routes and commerce routes, I think we will see, we will see force to open them up. Because Iran does not have the right to shut down the ability of America and the rest of the world to engage in trade and commerce. That is a possible escalation. I think the most likely escalation is going to be continued attacks on civilians in Israel. Because at the end of the day, I think the Ayatollah and the mullahs, they hate the Jewish people, and murdering innocent civilians is something that they believe in. I worry, as I said, about the risk of terrorist attacks as well. I think those are, sadly, the two most likely. The people of Israel, I know the government of Israel, the Iron Dome, they're working hard to protect their civilians. America is assisting in that. And here at home, law enforcement and Homeland Security and the Department of Justice are all working hard to intercept and stop any terrorist attack before it occurs. But understand, these are dangerous times. But they're dangerous times because we have enemies that wish to do harm to America. And that's why the responsibility that the President has is so grave and serious. And I will say, listening to President Trump speak Saturday night, I think there are times where the weight of the job really falls on his shoulders and he feels it. And I think Saturday night was one of them because it was an incredibly consequential moment in our nation's history and a very positive moment of the President standing up and saying, my first responsibility is to defend America and I will not shirk from that responsibility.
Ben Ferguson
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Podcast: The 47 Morning Update with Ben Ferguson
Host: Ben Ferguson
Guest: Senator Ted Cruz
Release Date: June 23, 2025
In this episode of The 47 Morning Update, host Ben Ferguson engages in a detailed discussion with Senator Ted Cruz regarding President Donald Trump's recent decisive military strike against Iran's nuclear facilities. The conversation delves into the implications of the strike, potential Iranian retaliation, border security concerns, and critiques of both the Biden administration and international responses.
Senator Cruz elaborates on the meticulous planning and execution of the airstrike:
"At midnight on Friday, the B2 strike package left the continental United States. Part of the package went east, the other part went west as a decoy. The main strike package was comprised of seven B2 bombers which flew for 18 hours into the target area."
(02:31)
He emphasizes the unprecedented nature of the operation:
"This is the first battle use of these bombs in history... More than 125 US aircraft participated in the mission... This attack was a spectacular success. We had no American casualties."
(02:31)
The strike successfully targeted Iran's key nuclear facilities without American casualties, significantly weakening Iran's nuclear capabilities. Cruz lauds President Trump’s decisive action:
"President Trump resolved the issue by ordering an incredibly successful attack... It was a dangerous combat operation and who carried it out with absolute precision."
(02:31)
Cruz warns of potential Iranian retaliation targeting Israeli civilians:
"The most likely is a continued and even an escalated barrage on Israeli civilians... potentially hundreds of Israelis killed in the days ahead."
(09:34)
He also highlights the risk to American military personnel in the Middle East:
"A very real possibility is an attack on US Servicemen and women in the Middle East... If you kill American servicemen and women, the consequences will be massive."
(09:34)
Addressing domestic threats, Cruz expresses concern over Iranian sleeper cells entering the U.S.:
"There are over 2 million people that we have signs they crossed the border and they got away... In overwhelming likelihood are terrorists."
(09:34)
Cruz contrasts the border security approaches of the Biden and Trump administrations:
"Under President Trump, the number is zero... under Joe Biden, we had over 10 million people cross that border."
(14:23)
He underscores the national security vulnerabilities posed by lax border controls:
"Some combination of those are murderers, some are rapists, some are child molesters... Some are terrorists."
(15:40)
Cruz criticizes the international community's response to the strike, particularly the United Nations:
"The International Fellowship of Christians and Jews... demands their protection... The UN sides with Iran... Remind me again why we are paying their bills."
(25:30)
He mocks the perceived hypocrisy of liberal commentators supporting Iranian actions:
"Oh, homicidal, theocratic women oppressing, gay, murdering, torturing, genocidal lunatics. Those are my people."
(23:27)
Cruz references President Trump's post-strike address, highlighting key points:
"The strikes were a spectacular military success. Iran's key nuclear enrichment facilities have been completely and totally obliterated... There will be either peace or there will be tragedy for Iran far greater than we have witnessed over the last eight days."
(30:42)
He commends the President's leadership and the military's precision:
"We with precision, speed and skill. Most of them can be taken out in a matter of minutes... There is no military in the world that could have done what we did tonight."
(30:42)
Discussing potential economic repercussions, Cruz touches on the possibility of Iran shutting down the Strait of Hormuz:
"If the Straits of Hormuz were shut down, it would impact America... drive up gasoline prices at home."
(39:11)
He asserts that the U.S. would respond forcefully to ensure the continuation of global trade:
"If they try to shut down those major trade routes and commerce routes, we will see force to open them up."
(39:11)
Cruz emphasizes the need for continued vigilance against further threats:
"Law enforcement and Homeland Security... are all working hard to intercept and stop any terrorist attack before it occurs."
(18:12)
The episode underscores Senator Cruz's staunch support for President Trump's actions against Iran, highlighting the success of the strike in neutralizing Iran's nuclear threat while expressing deep concerns over potential retaliatory actions. The discussion also reflects broader themes of border security and critiques of liberal policies and international institutions.
Senator Ted Cruz on the Strike's Success:
"This attack was a spectacular success. We had no American casualties."
(02:31)
On Potential Iranian Retaliation:
"The Ayatollah is actively developing an ICBM program... They were actively developing the capability to detonate a nuclear bomb over a major American city."
(09:34)
Critique of Border Policies:
"Under Joe Biden, we had over 10 million people cross that border."
(14:23)
President Trump's Address Highlights:
"Iran's key nuclear enrichment facilities have been completely and totally obliterated... There will be either peace or there will be tragedy for Iran."
(30:42)
On Future Escalations:
"If the Straits of Hormuz were shut down, it would impact America... drive up gasoline prices at home."
(39:11)
Ben Ferguson concludes the episode by reiterating the significance of President Trump's actions in safeguarding national security and encourages listeners to stay informed by subscribing to the podcast.
Note: This summary is based on the provided transcript and reflects the discussions and viewpoints expressed by the host and guest during this specific episode.