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Ben Ferguson
Welcome. It is verdict with Senator Ted Cruz. Ben Ferguson with you. Senator, it is a clown show, this court case in New York City. Yet you have a judge that has made it very clear to Donald Trump, I will put you in jail. I don't care that you're a former president, or as he put it, maybe the next president of the United States of America.
Senator Ted Cruz
Well, I gotta say, Ben, what you're saying I think is profoundly unfair to clowns. What we're seeing in New York is ridiculous. It is a partisan Democrat judge who is threatening to put Donald Trump in jail. We're going to break down what that looks like, what the threat is and what the consequences would be if that actually happened. We're also going to talk about what has happened on the border. It keeps getting worse and worse and worse. The latest breaking news is yet another illegal immigrant, in this instance from Guatemala has committed yet another crime. He's been arrested in Florida over the alleged kidnapping and sexual assault of a minor under the age of 13. The this is another illegal immigrant Biden has released. This is happening week after week after week.
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Senator Ted Cruz
Well, as you said, this entire thing is a clown show. And as I said, that's not fair to clowns. We are seeing a disgraceful display in New York. This is the second trial in a row brought by partisan Democrat prosecutors who hate Donald Trump, who are ambitious, who campaign promising to go after Donald Trump, and who are bringing wildly unfair partisan cases against Trump because it is in their political interest. The law doesn't matter. In this case, we saw this week testimony from Stormy Daniels. It was scintillating. It was all designed to say sex, sex, sex. I mean, that, that, that was enough to scream. And you know what? If you are a left wing partisan, this is like, this is crack to you. This is just dragging Trump through the gutter. And, and mind you, this is all intended to be a distraction. Understand why this is happening. This is not happening because a politician has a sex scandal. Again, that is not the first time that has occurred. This is happening because Democrats are terrified that the American people are going to vote for Donald Trump in November. And they are trying to interfere with the election. They're trying to stop the election. They're trying to do everything they can to stop Trump from being reelected. And they don't want the voters focused on what actually matters to most voters. Most voters, when they go in and vote, what they're thinking about is, how does this affect my life? How does this affect my family? How does this affect my kids? And if those are the questions you're asking, you're going to vote for Trump. Look, under Biden, everything Biden's touched has gone to crap. It's been a train wreck. The policy agenda has been terrible. We've seen inflation out of control, crime out of control, the border out of control. We've seen relentless partisans, an attack on our constitutional rights, an attack on free speech, on religious liberty, on the Second Amendment. And that's not to mention the utter chaos and disaster foreign policy and national security is. Whether it's the Afghanistan debacle or Ukraine or the or the horrors unfolding in Israel, everything Joe Biden has touched has gone to crap. So if you're a partisan Democrat, you don't want to talk about Biden's record. Nope, can't defend that. What do you want to do? You want to try to smear Trump? And I got to say, what happened this week, Listen, this judge, by all appearances, this judge is a hardcore partisan Democrat, just like Alvin Bragg, the George Source prosecutor. So he is now held Donald Trump in contempt twice. Twice he's imposed a gag order that said Trump can't talk about anything. Twice Trump has. Well, he is the Republican nominee to be president. He's running for president. He's going to talk about the political persecution going on against him. Well, he violated this order. And he's received $10,000 worth of fines since the trial began, $1,000 for each violation. And the judge is imposing one after the other after the other. And on Monday, here's what the judge said. Quote, it appears that the $1,000 fines are not serving as a deterrent going forward. This court will have to consider a jail sanction. I've got to say, it is extraordinary. Trump center at a fundraising email on Monday that said, quote, the liberal judge in New York just threatened to throw me in jail, all caps and red lettering and throw me in jail. They want me in handcuffs. And the email, of course, sought fundraising. But I'll say Trump is saying he will stand up, he will go to jail in order to defend the First Amendment. He said, quote, I'll do that sacrifice. This circus keeps getting crazier and crazier.
Ben Ferguson
The fantasy of the left and this has really been, I think, since 2016, when they went after the first impeachment and Russian collusion and the deep state then turned and then the going after people around Trump to try to squeeze him with General Flynn and other. And that's just a few of the highlights. But we also know, like for example, the FBI, they knew that the Steele dossier was user generated. They classified as user generated. They knew that Hillary Clinton's campaign and the DNC Democrat National Committee paid for that dossier. They knew that it was made out of thin air, and yet the Democratic Party still weaponized it to try to get rid and overthrow the will of the people. That. That was the very beginning. But even since then, there's been an obsession with this idea of putting Donald Trump in prison. There's been an obsession with him going to jail. And every time they keep coming after him, it seems to come back to that idea. This is now a reality that he could, in fact, go to jail. And if he does, would this be the most egregious act of election interference that the United States of America has ever seen? Because he's the front runner and we're within six months of election Day.
Senator Ted Cruz
Yes, but it's already that. It has already crossed that barrier. And I understand the left, their brains have melted down. They hate Trump so much that no norms matter, no standards matter. The rule of law doesn't matter. They want. Look, you're seeing leftists fantasizing about murdering Donald Trump. That's how extreme they are. And, you know, I'm going to say something that may seem extreme. I'm going to back it up. Not a single elected Democrat in Washington gives a damn about the rule of law. Now, as I say that, the sort of middle of the road, reasonable person immediately kind of recoils and says, well, boy, that seems extreme. Surely there's a Democrat who cares about the rule of law. Let me suggest a test. If you cared about the rule of law, you would speak out against this horrific political persecution that is occurring directed at Donald Trump. Now, listen, you don't have to love Trump. You don't have to vote for Trump if you're a Democrat. I get that. You, you wouldn't vote for Trump. You'll jump on board with, with Biden. That's okay. That's your team. But, but we're not talking about who you, as standard Democrat, Senator or House member is going to vote for. We're talking about basic standards. Do you think it is right to abuse the justice system, to have partisan prosecutors run and campaign saying, I'm going to be elected so I can prosecute Donald Trump? Do you think it's right for the results of those prosecutions? In over 200 years, we've never prosecuted a former president. We now have four pending indictments, plus a ridiculous civil suit seeking a half billion dollars from Donald Trump, all at the same time? This is the absolute abuse of power. And I don't know a single Democrat in the Senate. Not one. There are 51 of them, Ben. I Cannot tell you one of my colleagues who stood up and said, hey, this is going too far. And you know what? You now have this judge literally saying, threatening. We're going to put Donald Trump in handcuffs and send them to prison. And by the way, it's May. There's an election in November where he might be just about ready to go back to the Oval Office.
Ben Ferguson
Yeah. And it's very interesting to watch how the media, the media got us to this point that we are right now. They're the ones that have taken these stories and weaponized them and give cover to these attacks and these ridiculous indictments of Donald Trump. But what's also interesting now is just how scumbaggery is the best way I can describe it with words I'm allowed to use here. The media is. Even while they're covering this moment.
Senator Ted Cruz
But by the way, Ben, it is a podcast. You're allowed to use just about any word. But I will say it's a family friendly podcast. So. So even though the FCC will not block you, I might harump disapprovingly if you drop some profanity.
Ben Ferguson
That's. That's true. So, see, I, this is why I'm, this is why I'm keeping it pg. You look at CNN and, and it's like they're bipolar.
Senator Ted Cruz
Gosh diggly donic.
Ben Ferguson
Yeah, there you go. It's like they're bipolar while they're covering this. So there's this obsession with them to put Trump in jail. But then they say, well, we're gonna make fun of Trump and say Trump couldn't handle jail because he doesn't even like being in a hotel. But then we're gonna say, if the judge does this, it could have repercussions for reelection, maybe in a negative way against Democrats. And they did all this while live on tv. Listen, violation of the gag order since then.
Senator Ted Cruz
And my sense is he probably won't again.
Caitlin Collins
I also just want to read more of what the judge actually said to Trump today. He said, Mr. Trump, it's important to understand the last thing I want to do is put you in jail. You're the former president, United States, and possibly the next president as well. There are many reasons why incarceration is truly a last resort. For me to take that step would be disruptive to these proceedings, which I imagine you want to end as quickly as, as possible, just politically. Caitlin, what would, what would this mean?
Unnamed Analyst
I mean, the argument is that Trump would relish it in the sense that he would be able to argue what he's been arguing every day outside that courtroom that he is being politically persecuted here, that he can't use his First Amendment right, he can't speak freely, that this is protected political speech. The idea that Donald Trump actually would want to go to jail is ridiculous. Anyone who knows him knows that he doesn't even like to stay in a hotel when he goes on foreign trips. When he went as president, it was a whole thing to actually get him to stay overnight in places. So this idea that he actually does want to do this for the optics perspective, I mean when you speak to his closest advisers, they'll allies, they'll say that's completely far fetched. Now do they think it would work to their advantage? Maybe politically. But I do think Donald Trump heeding this is something that you never see Donald Trump do, which is actually watching his words. And he keeps acknowledging that every time he goes into that courtroom, even if he is lying about what the gag order actually says he can and cannot do, he is being careful. And he did the same thing after the Eugene Carroll verdict came out where he was found to have defamed her and it was going to cost him a lot of money. He changed the way that he would speak publicly about her until, until he defamed her with you and you're in your town hall. And then she ended up bringing him.
Back to court over that incident.
Ben Ferguson
I mean, I love that there even on tv when they're trying to make a point. The other host on there is like, well, except he didn't do what you just said because he went back to court for doing the exact opposite of what Caitlin Collins just said. And then she's like, oh, he's a wuss. Oh he couldn't handle jail. Oh, he'd be afraid of it. He can't even handle a hotel room. I mean, this is thi. This is the insanity of the media. Why anyone watches these people is beyond me at this point.
Senator Ted Cruz
Well, CNN hates Donald Trump. It's suffuses throughout their entire fake news media organization. They hate him. They hate him. They hate him. Every moment of news coverage they have is designed to attack him. But I'm going to make two observations. Number one, I do not believe Donald Trump will spend a single day in jail. I do not believe, I think, number one, the judge, I'm not convinced that he has the guts to do it. I think he recognizes it's a big damn deal. As was quoted, he's the former President of the United States. He may well be the next president United States, I don't think this New York trial judge wants to send the president to jail. Even as he's a partisan, I think he recognizes, wow, that's a big step. Secondly, if he did, I think you would end up having the order to go to jail overturn on appeal. I think the appellate judges would be very, very nervous to send him to jail. So my prediction right now, Donald Trump will not serve a day in jail. I'm going to make a second prediction if I'm wrong. If Donald Trump serves a day in jail, he'll be reelected as president in November. It would be a moment that would move the polls. And by the way, I'll say a year ago, more than a year ago, when the first indictments were coming down against Trump, I said on this podcast to our terrific listeners who listen to Verdict regularly, I said, if Donald Trump is indicted, it will be worth 10 points in the polls. Now, at the time, that was viewed as kind of a wacky proposition. I can tell you within less than a week of the first indictment, Trump rose 10 points in the polls. That's exactly right. I'm telling you right now, if these partisan left wing Democrats put him in jail for even a day, Trump will win in November. It will cost the Democrats the White House.
Ben Ferguson
Well, there's also, by the way, and this is, as we mentioned earlier, their fantasy since 2016 to put them in jail. They may be agreeing with you. I'm talking about the left and specifically the media that, okay, maybe we don't want to put them in jail and maybe that won't happen. They've moved on to a new fantasy, by the way, Senator Jen Psaki on MSNBC saying this.
Unnamed Analyst
I think many of them want to be close to power. They also assume or have this thought in their mind that maybe Donald Trump will go away, maybe he'll go to jail, maybe he will die. Not to be too morbid, but maybe, I mean, he's not a young man.
Ben Ferguson
So now we moved on to dying. Like, well, if the jail thing doesn't work, well, maybe he'll just die.
Senator Ted Cruz
So, Ben, can I ask you a question?
Ben Ferguson
Sure.
Senator Ted Cruz
Is Joe Biden a young man?
Ben Ferguson
Yeah, no, of course he is. Remember, he can run circles around Jen Psaki, the former White House press secretary who you just heard speaking there. Right. It's hard to keep up with him.
Senator Ted Cruz
They said, look, there are fantasies on the left. I'm reminded of, like when Trump was president, you had Bob Mueller investigating him. Do you remember who Saturday Night Live had playing Bob Mueller, who was It Robert De Niro.
Ben Ferguson
Oh, that's right.
Senator Ted Cruz
And they had De Niro playing Mueller. And there's one episode on SNL, and I grew up watching SNL. I've literally watched SNL for more than 40 years, going back to the 1970s when I was a little kid. But they have De Niro playing Bob Mueller. And they have a point where they're asking him, they say, hey, hey, are you going to get Trump? Are you going to get Trump? And his whole message was, I got him. Trust me, I got him. He's going down. And this is what. What is called left wing porn. This is their fantasy, Trump going to jail. They hate him. And never mind rule of law, never mind if he's guilty of anything. This is just, I hate my opponent and we must destroy him and let's put him in jail. And that is that. Abuse of power is one of the many reasons why I think we're going to see a great election in November, because people don't want power abuse. And by the way, to all the hypocritical leftists who say, oh, if Trump is in power, he's gonna set up concentration camp. He's gonna prosecute all the liberals. He didn't do that before. Did you see any concentration camps? He was president for four years. He didn't abuse his power.
Ben Ferguson
III don't forget, he shouldn't be trusted with the nuclear codes, and yet he started no wars.
Senator Ted Cruz
Wait, wait, who's the one who started. I don't know about World War 3, but who's the one who started the war in Ukraine? Who's the one that withdrew from Afghanistan and caused a disaster? Who's the one that caused the horrific war in Israel?
Ben Ferguson
Yeah, that would be Joe Biden. Joe Biden. Joe Biden.
Senator Ted Cruz
Yep. And so all of their talking points run into real trouble when they're confronted by facts and reality.
Ben Ferguson
Final question on this. How does the left figure out how to. To. To deal with the political fallout if Donald Trump survives all of this? Because on the View today, I know you're a lawyer watcher, the View, they said they need to send a point, and a point must be proven that Donald Trump go to jail so that no one's above the law.
Unnamed Analyst
I'm sort of conflicted about whether or not he should be held in contempt and put in. He's already been held in contempt, but put in jail for it. But I do think that 71% of Americans have said that he should be put in jail if he is convicted. The other thing I Will say, we all saw, many of us are old enough to have seen the, the O.J. case. Remember how Judge Ito lost complete control of the courtroom. And I think that had a lot to do with the, the, the win. You cannot let Donald Trump be a runaway train in that courtroom. It's not his courtroom, it's the judge's courtroom. And so I think to make a point, to prove a point, put him in the clink. Why not put him in the clink.
Ben Ferguson
And, and listen to the audience. I mean, listen to the audience. They're like, oh yeah, let's put him in the clink.
Senator Ted Cruz
Are they going hoo hoo, hoo, hoo hoo?
Ben Ferguson
I guess, yeah. That's Whoopi up there. She's excited about this idea.
Senator Ted Cruz
I mean, it really is. This is fantasy. This is, they hate. And by the way, let's be clear. They don't just want to put Donald Trump in jail. They want to put you in jail. Ben. They want to put me in jail. They want to put half of America the deplorables. They want to put all of us in jail. That is their fantasy. These are people who believe. And let's be clear. Let me ask you a question, let me ask you a question. Do you want to put Joe Biden in jail?
Ben Ferguson
No.
Senator Ted Cruz
Do you want to put Hillary Clinton in jail?
Ben Ferguson
No.
Senator Ted Cruz
Do you want to put Chuck Schumer in jail?
Ben Ferguson
No. I don't put anybody in jail because they're a Democrat. I only want people to go to jail that have actually broken the law.
Senator Ted Cruz
I'd like to get them the hell out of office. I'd like to get them out of office. They're doing real damage. But there is a vindictiveness, there's a self righteousness on the left that they say, if I don't like you, I want to put you in jail. And by the way, you look at the fantasies where you have Democrats saying, and for Trump will take away your Secret Service protection. So that way you just get murdered by jail gangs. Woohoo. Isn't that great? We'll kill you. Like that is deranged.
Ben Ferguson
Yeah. Jen Psaki. Maybe he'll die. Maybe, maybe that, maybe that'll happen. Maybe, maybe he'll just die and then we'll be done with him. I also go back to, we played a montage on the show. Gosh, it was probably a year ago now, Senator, and it was a montage of the media saying that we needed to send all Trump supporters to camps to deprogram them. Do you remember that. And when we played it, it was like, this is real, folks. This is what they believe about you. They want to send you to basically camps to deprogram you from being a conservative that supported Trump.
Senator Ted Cruz
You know, I'm reminded about a story that I tell in my latest book, Unwoke how to Defeat Culture Marxism in America. And the last chapter in the book concerns China. And I opened the chapter by talking about sitting down with the Chinese ambassador to the United States. And this was a really creepy meeting. I don't regularly meet with Chinese government officials. I despise Communists. The Chinese ambassador, who later became the Chinese foreign minister, asked to meet with me. And I wrestled with what to do. And I decided, okay, I'm going to take the meeting now. I'll tell you, when I took the meeting, I did not take it in my office because, frankly, I didn't trust allowing him in my office. I didn't know if he'd bring in listening equipment. I just. I don't trust the Chinese. Chinese people are great. I don't trust the Chinese government that are communist and they're murderers and they're liars and they're abusive. So instead, I took the meeting in a room in a Senate building that was far away from my office. And I sat there, and the Chinese ambassador, I think he was expecting me to be apologetic. He, like, read all sorts of negative comments I'd made about China, and he was expecting me to apologize. And I said, well, the reason I said, you're lying, murderous, torturing, evil bastards is because you're lying, murderous, torturous, evil bastards. And I'll stop saying that when you stop lying, you stop murdering, you stop torturing, and you stop being evil. And he truly didn't know what to say. But the reason I draw that analogy is I called him out for genocide. Over 1 million Uyghurs are in concentration camps in China right now. And I called him out on it. He said, no, no, no, you are mistaken. Those are not concentration camps. You see, these people refuse to acknowledge the legitimacy the Chinese Communist government. So they're obviously mentally ill. So we have put them in facilities to give them treatment to help correct their mental illness. And I gotta say, Ben, the creepiest thing as he's relaying this was the absolute calm with which he described this. It was. You know, there are fairly few moments in my time in public office that I felt like, really the presence of evil. Yeah. And Hannah Arendt wrote about the banality of evil, about. About how Nazis. They weren't all just Comic book villains like, you know, the Joker and Batman, that that many of them were ordinary people. They were people who were bakers or shoemakers or plumbers or electricians, people who were regular people who became horrible mass murderers and torturers. And what was so eerie about it was the utter calm because of his political indoctrination in which he said, if you disagree with the government, you are obviously mentally ill and we are going to put you in a camp to treat you, to cure you of that illness. I gotta say, that same approach is the approach of the leftists. And so what do they do? They accuse conservatives of wanting to put them in camps, which is an utter lie. And there's no one on the conservative side because that is not something you hear conservatives say, but it is something that leftists talk about.
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Joe Biden
I love it when people say, why dreamers? Can you imagine a kid 2 years old saying, mom, don't take me across Rio Grande. It's against the law. Give me a break. These have been model citizens. Congress has to act and the right thing to do is to keep pushing forward until we get it done.
Ben Ferguson
So there's his famous line, get it done. So he is doubling down now. Not only do we have a wide open borders, we have countless millions of illegal immigrants coming in. But he refuses to admit the carnage is taking place at the southern border. And now it's pushing for amnesty. Part one, which would be all of these, as he describes them, dreamers. And then the next part would be, well, more illegal immigrants and then part three would be even more illegal immigrants. This is what he's doing for this election.
Senator Ted Cruz
Well, listen, Biden's making clear that Joe Biden and the Democrats, they stand with illegal immigrants. And given the choice between illegal immigrants and American citizens, they're with the illegals. Given the choice between criminals and law abiding citizens, they're with criminals. And that is a consistent theme. It's why 11 million people crossed into this country illegally. Because they look at those 11 million illegal immigrants and they say, hey, those are future Democrat voters. We stay in power if we let them in. And they turn a blind eye to the people who are suffering and dying. You know who Joe Biden didn't talk about this week?
Ben Ferguson
Who was that?
Senator Ted Cruz
He didn't talk about Marvin Perez Lopez. Now who is Marvin Perez Lopez? Well, he was arrested the last couple of days. He is an immigrant from Guatemala. He was arrested over the weekend for kidnapping a minor under the age of 13 and sexual assault. That's according to Palm Beach County Sheriff's Office. Marvin Perez Lopez was in the country illegally, was arrested on May 4. Perez Lopez reportedly left Guatemala in early January, crossed through Mexico. And what did he do? He turned himself into the border patrol. But of course, Joe Biden being a Democrat, he turned around, he let him go. Do you know when Perez Lopez was given a court date?
Ben Ferguson
I'm afraid you're gonna say years from the moment they let him go.
Senator Ted Cruz
2027.
Ben Ferguson
There you go.
Senator Ted Cruz
2027, he was released. He went to Florida, and then he turned around, and he's now been charged with kidnapping a minor under the age of 13 and sexual assault. Now, we're not going to say the miner's name, but we are going to point out week after week after week, every single week, there's another violent crime committed by an illegal immigrant. Joe Biden releases. And what is he. Is he talking about that? Does he care about this child who was kidnapped and sexually assaulted? The answer has to be no. Now, look, when I say that, Ben, some people might say, gosh, that's harsh. What do you mean he doesn't care about a child kidnapped and assaulted? If he cared, he would stop releasing illegal immigrants. You can't keep doing it when you see, hey, when I do this, children get kidnapped and raped. Maybe I should stop doing this. That. That's actually what someone who cared about the crime and wanted to prevent the next child from being kidnapped and raped would do now, Joe Biden. And by the way, every single Democrat in Congress, without exception, every single senator, every single House member, they don't care either. Why do I know they don't care? Because if they cared, they'd be willing to stand up to Biden and say, enough is enough. Stop releasing violent, criminal, illegal aliens. And in the Senate, every single time I force a vote, and I've done it over and over and over again, every Democrat, all of them, vote in favor of releasing illegal immigrants, even if they're committing crimes against children in America.
Ben Ferguson
Yeah, I know. There's, you know the old saying, you know, see no evil, hear no evil, right? And then you can insulate yourself. The Democrats, though, have heard enough to know just how bad it is at the border. And now every state's a border state. And seeing how bad it is with what's happening, whether it's in New York City, whether it's in Denver, Colorado. I mean, it's widespread. The chaos and the anarchy and the destruction and the abuse of children, the sexual abuse, the human trafficking, the drugs, the fentanyl. Is there any of your colleagues that truly still don't know? Or is this just a. If we don't talk about, then we don't have to admit what we already know?
Senator Ted Cruz
Look, it's hypocrisy. I'll tell you tonight, I was in a classified briefing in the Senate. I was a classified briefing talking about all sorts of things, including threats of terrorism in the United States. And there was a Democrat senator who at some point was sharing that based on the briefings he'd received, there's an enormous risk of terrorism, and he's deeply worried, and we do much more to prevent it. And I remember sitting there and thinking, gosh, what you're saying sounds very reasonable. Why do you keep voting in favor of releasing 11 million illegal immigrants? Like, at some point, you can't claim. I'm worried about the threat of a terrorist attack when you have nearly 2 million gotaways, when you have Iran calling for global jihad against America, when they have Hezbollah and Hamas calling for global jihad and the Biden administration letting them go. And he was. What was interesting is sitting in this classified briefing, this Democrat senator sounded emphatic. He sounded believable. I'm like, wow, he's really worried about a terrorist attack. But you know what? Just a couple of weeks ago, we had a vote on the impeachment of Alejandro Mayorkas, who has let 11 million illegal immigrants go. And this Democrat, along with every single other Democrat, voted to throw the case out, to hear no evidence they didn't care about the risk of terrorism. That's the simple reality.
Ben Ferguson
One other thing, and you talk about hypocrisy, which does make me laugh. The Democratic Convention is going to be held in Chicago, and we're now hearing that ahead of the Democratic Convention they are going to clear out the area of illegal immigrants. Take a listen to this from local NBC News in Chicago.
Unnamed Reporter
Strong reactions tonight from residents after learning Mayor Brandon Johnson is considering plans to open a new temporary migrant shelter in their south side neighborhood.
Joe Biden
And he don't know where to put him. Where. Why would you put him in our neighborhood? Well, why don't we go buy your house?
Senator Ted Cruz
All of that money that he's given them.
Ben Ferguson
We've been begging for years.
Unnamed Resident
We've lived here our whole life. We have a lot of bad things that happen here already. We do not need this. We just do not.
Unnamed Reporter
Located just blocks away from Guaranteed Raid Field, the proposed building near Canal in Pershing is in the city's elite 11th Ward.
Unnamed Resident
Look at where it's at. It's.
Senator Ted Cruz
It's.
Unnamed Resident
It's hit in the back. Why is that a good location?
Senator Ted Cruz
We.
Unnamed Resident
We have no amenities here as it is.
Unnamed Reporter
Alderwoman Nicole Lee issued this letter to constituents yesterday, saying she was notified earlier this week and met with the mayor on Thursday she says the city wants to move migrants staying at the Standard Club near the Dirksen Federal Building to her ward before the Democratic National Convention.
Unnamed Resident
This is just insane. It doesn't make sense. Keep them downtown. Keep them. I don't know. I mean, this is not our problem.
Unnamed Reporter
The alderwoman made it clear she is against the proposed plan, citing safety and location concerns and lack of justification for the move. She says, quote, as our city grapples with this unprecedented influx of migrants, it is crucial that we handle the migrant crisis safely, responsibly, and with full transparency. The well being of our communities must be the top priority.
Unnamed Resident
Where all we want to do is house our veterans and they're getting kicked to the side for the people who didn't do anything for this country, yet those men and women, honorably served, they should be coming first.
Ben Ferguson
I love the last guy there talking about our veterans, but you go back to why they're doing this. Senator, read behind the lines here. This is because the residents are downtown in the area where the DNC is going to be. They're saying, hey, we got to clean this up. It's got to be nice and full friendly and look good for the Democratic National Convention. We got to move them out of this area. All right, Throw them out there in this other part of the city.
Senator Ted Cruz
Yeah, no, that's exactly right. And I thought the most revealing comment in that montage you played was the alderman saying, this is not our problem. Now, she's a Democrat. All of those elected officials are Democrats. They keep voting for Democrats. They vote for a wild left wing Democrat mayor. They vote for a wild left wing Democrat governor, they vote for a wild left wing Democrat senator, they vote for a wild left wing Democrat president. Every one of those supports an invasion of this country of illegal immigrants. And they say, well, this is not our problem. Send them to Texas, send them to Florida, send them to anywhere other than our state. But we want them to keep coming in. Because you know what? We want them to show up in Texas and Florida and we want them to vote Democrats so we can be in power. But we don't actually want to deal with this invasion. The hypocrisy is massive. And if you want to change this, we need to have some real accountability. If they want open borders, we ought to send every single one of them to these blue jurisdictions until they realize 11 million people, this is not right. They're doing it to Texas, they're doing it to Florida, and by the way, they're doing it to every other state in the Union, but they're trying to be utter hypocrites and say don't do it to our own community.
Ben Ferguson
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Podcast Summary: The 47 Morning Update with Ben Ferguson Episode: Trump in Jail??? plus Even More Criminal Illegal Aliens Release Date: May 8, 2024
Host: Ben Ferguson
Guest: Senator Ted Cruz
Organization: Premiere Networks
In this episode of The 47 Morning Update with Ben Ferguson, host Ben Ferguson is joined by Senator Ted Cruz to discuss two pressing issues: the legal troubles surrounding former President Donald Trump and the escalating crisis at the U.S. southern border involving illegal immigrants committing serious crimes.
Overview of the New York Court Case
Ben Ferguson introduces the topic by describing the ongoing court case in New York City as a "clown show," criticizing the judiciary's handling of Donald Trump's legal issues. He states, “it is a clown show, this court case in New York City” (00:01).
Senator Ted Cruz concurs, emphasizing the partisan nature of the prosecution. He asserts, “We are seeing a disgraceful display in New York... partisan Democrat judge who is threatening to put Donald Trump in jail” (00:21).
Threat of Incarceration
Ben Ferguson details the judge's threats to imprison Trump, highlighting the unprecedented nature of prosecuting a former president. He mentions, “the judge just threatened to throw me in jail” (07:12).
Senator Cruz elaborates on the judge's actions, noting, “the judge is imposing one after the other after the other” sanctions against Trump (14:05). He predicts that Trump will not serve even a day in jail, stating, “Donald Trump will not spend a single day in jail” (14:05).
Impact on the 2024 Election
Senator Cruz discusses the potential electoral ramifications, positing that any move to incarcerate Trump could galvanize his support base. He states, “if Donald Trump serves a day in jail, he'll be reelected as president in November” (14:05).
Ben Ferguson echoes this sentiment, questioning how the left would handle Trump's survival through these legal challenges, especially with the election looming (15:51).
Notable Quotes:
Recent Crimes Committed by Illegal Immigrants
Senator Cruz highlights a recent case involving Marvin Perez Lopez, an illegal immigrant from Guatemala charged with the kidnapping and sexual assault of a minor, illustrating the dangers posed by lax immigration policies. He notes, “Marvin Perez Lopez was in the country illegally... now he's been charged with kidnapping a minor” (29:02).
Ben Ferguson underscores the frequency of such incidents, arguing that each new crime further demonstrates the failure of current border policies (29:02).
Democratic Policies and Hypocrisy
Senator Cruz criticizes Democratic leaders for prioritizing political gains over national security, stating, “if you cared about the rule of law, you would speak out against this horrific political persecution” (20:22).
Ben Ferguson points out the Democrats' inconsistent stance on illegal immigration, suggesting that their policies are designed to benefit their political standing rather than ensure public safety (32:13).
Impact on Communities
Senator Cruz discusses the local impact of Democratic policies, referencing a proposed migrant shelter in Chicago and the residents' opposition. He remarks, “every one of those supports an invasion of this country of illegal immigrants” (37:05).
Ben Ferguson connects these local issues to broader national trends, emphasizing the widespread chaos and crime associated with illegal immigration (32:13).
Notable Quotes:
Bias in Media Coverage
Ben Ferguson criticizes mainstream media outlets for perpetuating attacks against Trump, suggesting that they amplify partisan agendas. He states, “the media is... covering this moment” in a biased manner (10:38).
Senator Cruz agrees, labeling outlets like CNN as entities that "hate Donald Trump" and are intent on undermining him through relentless negative coverage (14:05).
Media Personalities and Public Perception
Ben Ferguson references media figures like Caitlin Collins and Jen Psaki, arguing that their statements contribute to a narrative aimed at damaging Trump's reputation and political viability (10:38).
Senator Cruz uses examples from popular culture, such as Saturday Night Live's portrayal of Bob Mueller, to illustrate how media and entertainment foster anti-Trump sentiments (16:44).
Notable Quotes:
Abuse of Power Concerns
Senator Cruz raises alarms about the abuse of the justice system for political purposes, highlighting multiple indictments against Trump as unprecedented and politically motivated (20:29).
Ben Ferguson echoes concerns about the erosion of democratic norms, questioning the integrity of prosecutions against Trump and labeling them as election interference (08:26).
Comparisons to Historical Events
Notable Quotes:
Call to Action
Ben Ferguson urges listeners to share the podcast and stay informed about the issues discussed, emphasizing the importance of awareness in combating partisan agendas (37:05).
Senator Cruz reiterates the need for accountability and adherence to the rule of law, warning against the consequences of unchecked political persecution (37:05).
Final Thoughts
Ben Ferguson: “The fantasy of the left... is now a reality that he could, in fact, go to jail.” (07:12)
Senator Ted Cruz: “We are not talking about who you, as standard Democrat, Senator or House member is going to vote for.” (10:38)
Senator Ted Cruz: “If Donald Trump serves a day in jail, he'll be reelected as president in November.” (14:05)
Senator Ted Cruz: “This is the absolute abuse of power.” (20:29)
Senator Ted Cruz: “They are doing it to Texas, they're doing it to Florida... but they're trying to be utter hypocrites and say don't do it to our own community.” (37:05)
Partisan Judicial Actions: The legal actions against Donald Trump are portrayed as politically motivated efforts by Democrats to undermine his chances in the upcoming election.
Border Security Crisis: The ongoing surge in illegal immigration is linked to increased crime, with Democratic policies blamed for prioritizing political gains over national security.
Media Bias: Mainstream media is criticized for its biased coverage against Trump, contributing to public perception and political outcomes.
Democratic Overreach: Concerns are raised about the abuse of power and the erosion of the rule of law, drawing parallels to historical authoritarian practices.
Electoral Impact: Legal troubles and immigration issues are positioned as pivotal factors that could significantly influence the 2024 election, potentially benefiting Trump despite the challenges.
This episode of The 47 Morning Update with Ben Ferguson offers a critical perspective on the intersection of politics, law, and media, emphasizing the challenges faced by conservatives in the current American political landscape.