134 - The Notorious B.I.G. - Ready To Die - Godfrey

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Podcast Summary: The 500 with Josh Adam Meyers

Episode 134 – The Notorious B.I.G. – Ready to Die – with Godfrey
Date: November 12, 2025
Host: Josh Adam Meyers
Guest: Godfrey

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Overview

In this episode, comedian Josh Adam Meyers sits down with legendary comedian and hip-hop aficionado Godfrey to explore the impact, legacy, and lyrical brilliance of The Notorious B.I.G.’s seminal debut album Ready to Die. Rolling through Rolling Stone’s list of the 500 greatest albums, this conversation covers mid-90s hip hop, personal stories of musical discovery, the legacy of Biggie, the influence of producers like Puff Daddy (Diddy), and the cultural context that made Ready to Die one of the most important rap albums in history. With typical irreverence, deep musical knowledge, and plenty of humor, they debate the album's place in hip hop and share how it still resonates today.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Personal Connections & Hip Hop History

[12:10–18:40]

• Godfrey’s Hip Hop Roots: Godfrey breaks down his deep history with hip hop, name-checking pioneers and declaring how foundational artists like Public Enemy, Grandmaster Flash, and Run DMC were to his musical identity.
• Nostalgic Stories: Godfrey recounts seeing legendary acts live and tracing the evolution from early 80s rap to the dominance of the mid-90s, name-dropping everything from Beastie Boys to EPMD and Wu-Tang Clan.
• “I came up on hip hop, like, from the...like, fuck, yeah. I came up on hip hop.” – Godfrey [12:34]

Notable Segue:

• Discussion about genre obsession: Josh shares obsessing over bands like Iron Maiden, Guns N’ Roses, Wu-Tang, and how that shaped how he immerses in new music.
• The role of the Beastie Boys in bringing hip hop to a broader (white) audience is explored, with highlights about Russell Simmons’ insight and the cross-pollination of punk and rap.
• “They changed the game with the white dudes. Before the M&Ms, even before Everlast, there was the Beastie Boys.” – Godfrey [15:56]

2. The Genesis and Legacy of Ready to Die

[22:45–29:23]

• Biggie’s Origin Story: Discussion of his Brooklyn roots, Jamaican heritage, and larger-than-life persona.

• Godfrey describes being in on Ready to Die from the start thanks to his friend Cootie (who would go on to make Kanye’s documentary), and how “Unbelievable” was an immediate hit in his circle.

• “Unbelievable...that song was like my shit.” – Godfrey [24:37]

• Josh’s Late Appreciation: Josh confesses to only truly engaging with the entire album while prepping for the podcast, despite knowing the hits before—emphasizing the difference between “hearing” and “listening.”

  • “It’s like in White Men Can’t Jump. It’s like you hear it, you’re not listening.” – Josh [10:46]

Producer Influence & Bad Boy

[33:38–35:44]

• The duo debate whether Biggie’s legacy is “tainted” by association with Puff Daddy (Diddy) and Bad Boy’s controversies, ultimately agreeing that, while Puffy’s influence is complicated, Biggie’s talent transcends.
  • “But you don’t take his, his, his talent is so powerful...I think it’s more sad his story.” – Godfrey [35:16]
  • “Do you think Puffy had something to do [with Biggie’s death]?” – Josh [36:16]

3. Lyrical Analysis and Album Standouts

[43:40–49:09]

• “Gimme the Loot” as a Mission Statement: Josh argues that the third track, “Gimme the Loot,” is the perfect encapsulation of Biggie’s talent—its couplets, storyline, and delivery.

• Godfrey and Josh quote complex lyrics, breaking down Biggie’s unique jazz-like cadence and vivid storytelling:

  • “Biggie is a swinger. He swings like a horn player over jazz...just spelling his name, but the flow. Vicious.” – Shock G via Godfrey [21:05]
  • “I will put this song up against any Eminem song or Nas song or Wu-Tang song.” – Josh [45:15]

• Other Favorites:

  • Godfrey’s personal top tracks: “Unbelievable” (DJ Premier production) and “Kick in the Door.”
  • “Can I show you? Kicking the door’s on...get in the ass quick, fast like Ramadan. It’s the rap phenomenon...” – Godfrey quoting Biggie [45:58-46:54]

On “Juicy” and Cultural Touchstones

[52:02–54:54]

• Both discuss the inspirational tone of “Juicy,” Biggie’s shout-outs to black pop magazines like Word Up, and what it meant for representation.
  • “It’s like this positive message that anybody can do anything. This is all the shit that said I wouldn’t amount to nothing...it was all a dream.” – Josh [52:12]

4. Cultural Commentary and Tangents

[54:54–63:32]

• The conversation flows into television nostalgia, the meaning of black media, sitcoms like Different Strokes and The Cosby Show, and how those formed part of the same Black cultural renaissance that Biggie was a part of.

• Discussion of Institutional Gatekeeping:

  • The recurring theme of how black artists are kept out of mainstream recognition, leading to creation of separate media, awards, etc.

5. The Album’s Place in History

[66:54–69:39]

• Ready to Die’s commercial and critical legacy: triple platinum, included on numerous lists (e.g., Apple’s 100 Best at #32, Rolling Stone’s Best of the ’90s at #8).

  • “It's now triple platinum in '98...it’s probably over six times platinum [now].” – Josh [67:38]

• Rankings Debate:

  • The hosts discuss Rolling Stone’s and the Grammy’s problematic gatekeeping, Godfrey argues against ranking “top 5” but agrees the album is “one of the greatest.”
    • “That’s bullshit...I don’t like that top 5 shit. One of the greatest.” – Godfrey [68:13]

• The intergenerational debate: new rap versus classic, and how every innovation builds on the last.

  • “There’s no new without the old.” – Josh [69:39]

6. What Ifs: Biggie and Tupac Had Lived?

[70:27–71:57]

• The hosts speculate on how Biggie’s career might have evolved, whether he and Tupac would have reconciled, commercialized, or faded.
  • “I think the music goes amazing...They become legends, man.” – Godfrey [70:41]
  • Both argue that much like James Dean or Kurt Cobain, Biggie’s early death crystallizes his legacy.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On Biggie’s Lyricism:

  • “He is 10 times better as a storyteller than any MC out there. He is just phenomenal.” – Josh [04:40]
  • “He swings like a horn player over jazz...Just spelling his name, but the flow, vicious.” – Shock G (quoted by Godfrey) [21:05]
  • “That’s just...He’s just lyrically...just pop, the lyrical Buddha.” – Godfrey [49:09]

• On Hip Hop’s Evolution & Commercialization:

  • “Is what I think is at the precipice—it took hip hop from being hey, this is a subgenre of music...to now we can be multi-millionaires and be the biggest artist in the world.” – Josh [18:41]

• On Revisiting Albums as an Adult:

  • “I always respected him, knew he was one of the best. I arguably now think that Notorious B.I.G. in Ready to Die is...hands down, one of the greatest debut albums of all time.” – Josh [20:09]

• On Puff Daddy’s Role:

  • “Puffy was powerful at the time. I mean, if I was...we would have probably got with Puffy. Puffy saw talent...he’s made some dope ass music for real.” – Godfrey [34:35]

• On Biggie’s Early Death:

  • “Of course, of course—it’s the same thing with Nirvana...James Dean has three movies and we hold him up...Of course, it’s because they’re gone.” – Godfrey [74:01–74:24]

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Top Tracks Discussed & Broken Down

• "Gimme the Loot" [43:40–49:09]
• "Unbelievable" (Godfrey's favorite, produced by DJ Premier) [45:21]
• "Kicking the Door" [45:51]
• "Juicy" (Dissected for its positive, historical, and autobiographical lyrics) [52:02]

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The Album’s Production Team

• Producers highlighted: Easy Mo Bee, DJ Premier, Chucky Thompson, and Diddy (though his direct musical footprint is smaller than often credited).
  • “DJ Premier is my favorite, like hip hop DJ. Combs did produce Big Papa...really not as much as you’d think.” – [62:11–62:33]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [12:10] – Godfrey’s Hip Hop History
• [22:45] – Biggie’s Background & Godfrey’s 1994
• [29:35] – Influence of Puffy and Bad Boy Records
• [43:40] – In-Depth Lyrical Praise: “Gimme the Loot”
• [52:02] – “Juicy” and Black Cultural Media
• [66:54] – Album Rankings, Legacy, and Sales Stats
• [70:27] – Speculation: What If Biggie & Tupac Survived?
• [76:45] – Godfrey’s Elevator Pitch for Ready to Die

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Closing Thoughts / Final Recommendations

• Ready to Die stands near the apex of hip hop and storytelling in music. Both comedians agree that its influence is still felt, and that its blend of lyrical brilliance and vivid, authentic storytelling makes it appeal even to non-hip hop fans.

  • “Even if you don’t like hip hop, this shit is unbelievable, period. Listen to it. You will be into real lyrical shit, real artistry.” — Godfrey [76:45]

• The duo reflect on how tragedy and myth have cemented Biggie’s and Tupac’s places in music history, while lamenting what could have been had they lived.

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Links & Credits

• Godfrey: Instagram: @godfreycomedian, Podcast: In Godfrey We Trust
• Josh Adam Meyers: @joshadammeyers, the500podcast.com

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For a faithful, funny, and insightful look at hip hop’s golden age—and the singular brilliance of the Notorious B.I.G.—this episode stands as a vibrant tribute to an immortal record.

Transcript

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I'm all that and a D sack where the paper at but he's sticking you and taking all your money Give me the loot, give me the loot Give me the loot Give me the loot Give me the loot Give me the loot that is give.

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Me the loot it's by the Notorious B.I.G. from the 1994 record Ready to Die. I think we all Are we all are listening to number 134 out of 500 on the 500 with me, J Mo Scoodly Doo Josh Adam Myers. Thank you guys. Tuning in Only podcast going through Rolling Stone magazine's list of the 500 Greatest Albums. All the way down to one. All the way down to 1. Oh oh oh oh oh oh oh. I'm at Skangfest this weekend. It looks like we moved my Baltimore show to February, thank God, because that means I'm going to England next week to go see Radiohead four times. Yeah, that's what happens when you don't have much of a career. You just can take off and do whatever the fuck you want. But you can catch me at Skankfest this weekend. And then Thanksgiving weekend I will be at the Punchline in Atlanta. Then the first weekend in December I will be in Charlotte. Then I will at the Duckworths. Then the next weekend I'm opening up for Jeff Arcurie in Phoenix for his Netflix taping. And then I think we're closing out the year at fucking Foxwoods. Is that what it is?

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No.

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Mohegan sun comics. December 18th, 19th and the 20th. I want to see you guys there. Joshadamyers.com Josh Adam Myers on all social media, I'm posting clips Once in a blue moon. But if you want to help me tell everybody, follow me at Josh Adam Myers I would love to see you guys. We got a YouTube subscribe to it and we got a Patreon subscribe to it patreon.com backslash the 500 podcast. And I got more and more dates showing up for 2026. Gonna be a good New Year's. I don't know where I'll be, but I'll be somewhere. Alright guys, so I'm gonna talk about this in the podcast with Godfrey. I haven't recorded the episode yet. We're doing this. This is like literally down to the wire because we were supposed to have Busta Rhymes and then that fell through and I'm very happy with Godfrey. I love Godfrey. I think he's one of the funniest dudes out there and, and really a New York legend. So when you think about Biggie, this was such a New York record that we needed somebody that has spent the majority of their life and if not the years that he was growing up in this town and, and that's why we got it. Because this is a record that I hadn't dug into besides the hits. And then really this became one of my favorite hip hop Records probably of all time. I am a Biggie. Notorious, whatever the you want to call them. Bi jizzle. I am a fan of this. I don't know if I think he is. He is 10 times better as a storyteller than any MC out there. He is. He is just phenomenal. And this record was everything that I needed. And to have Godfrey on, which you know him from in Godfrey We Trust, his podcast on Gas Digital, where we recorded this episode. Thank you, Ralph, for setting this up at AJ Working the board. Check out his Netflix special. Check out dude, this is Instagram. Godfrey's the man odfree comic godfrey live.com. he's on tour. He's hilarious. I love him. Rate, review, and most importantly, subscribe to the 500 listen fee on all platforms or anywhere you get your podcast. Follow me at Josh Adam Myers on all social media. Follow the podcast at the 500 podcast. Email the [e-mail]. I think Evan runs the Facebook group. I don't even know if it still exists. For all things 500, go to the website the500podcast.com. All right, y', all, here we go. 134 out of 500 with Notorious B.I.G. biggie smiles. That's just crazy. This is what's going through my head.

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I could do a fake Biggie. I'm sitting there at the table doing my thing. I don't give a fuck. Cause you know don't swing.

[B]

Ah.

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I'm with Josh Adam Myers. And that's okay. I'm the one you admire. Oh, Texas and lexicist. Oh, I got the hot, getting delicate. But that's okay.

[B]

Now you're going back.

[A]

Now you're coming.

[B]

You gotta stick with it. Come on.

[A]

Going. You get it.

[B]

You got to keep got interrupted. You got to act like you're wrong.

[A]

But you sound like Josh.

[B]

No, I don't.

[A]

No.

[B]

I feel like I'm on Viagra. I got Viagra in my nose cuz I can't breathe. You got to act like you're congested. You're just me. You're congested.

[A]

Now he interrupted all. Josh is too nasally.

[B]

I'm too nasally.

[A]

Dude.

[B]

I can't do stink.

[A]

I was going watch. Ready?

[B]

Stink.

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Kicking the door, waving the four. Four all. You heard papa don't hit me no more. Yeah, out of here.

[B]

All right.

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I'm even fat, son. All right.

[B]

Scale of 1 to 10, Biggie had sleep apnea.

[A]

Oh, 12. No, I mean, he was a big guy and in phenomenal lyricist. Lord have mercy. His Game. His wordplay in Unreal. I got. You know, it's like this. He goes, urain at the top is short. Like leprechauns. Yeah. I mean, come on.

[B]

I don't think I've ever had more fun listening to a record to prepare for a podcast because. And I want to get into your history with this, because we only got about an hour. But the main thing is, is that I never slept on Biggie.

[A]

No.

[B]

I was just. I was just. Wuang, wuang, wuang.

[A]

That was.

[B]

That was it for me.

[A]

And nothing else. Well, I mean, obviously, like a motherfucker, but there's.

[B]

Okay, so.

[A]

Kidding me?

[B]

No, but see, there I was a very. The way I. I was such an addict of certain bands, the way I digested them is that when I fell in love with something, that was it. So whether it was Iron Maiden as a kid, into Guns n roses in 87, then it was like, suddenly I was like a huge Motley Crue fan.

[A]

Just one rock band.

[B]

No, I would love other music, but I would obsess. I like Radiohead. It was like. That was all I wanted. It was. When I'm trying to think of, like, Wu Tang, it was only Wu Tang. That's all I wanted. I wanted. I wanted Liquid Swords, I wanted Tikal, I wanted Iron Man. And I got in. I got in. Probably there were already, like, three or four records out, so I wasn't like. I was, like, drowning in all the Wu Tang I could absorb.

[A]

First came out.

[B]

Yeah, see, I. I think that was, what, 92?

[A]

Yeah, I got it when they first.

[B]

Came out in 92. I think I was still. I. I think I was really, like. I was Stone Temple Pilots. I was like, really, like rock and roll.

[A]

I had stp. And I met. I met Scott Wiling twice. Oh, twice. I saw Scott Weiland when he was. He changed. With Velvet Revolver? Yeah, with Slash. I was at this VH1 thing, but then I saw him in the streets in New York, walking past the Comedy Cellar. He had just got a rehab from the heroin, and I gave him a big ass hug. I said, scott, you're so talented. I remember this. You're so talented, man. I hope that you stay healthy. He gave me the biggest hug, man. Yeah.

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Come on, let me buy some hummus in the olive tree. Come on, dude.

[A]

I recognized him. I was like.

[B]

That was it. That was. That was an obsession. So when. When we're talking about me, this. I ain't gonna. I'm not gonna lie. I've listened to this record before.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I had never. Like, it was that thing in. In white men can't jump. It's like you. You hear it.

[A]

You hear it. You're not listening.

[B]

You're not listening.

[A]

Listening.

[B]

I heard it and I was like, I heard Big Papa. I heard Juicy. I heard Give me the Loot this go round. I listened to this record and album is unreal. I. I honest to God think this might be the way everybody sucks Nas's dick for Illmatic, which is a brilliant record.

[A]

It's my favorite rap don't. With Nas.

[B]

No, I'm not putting it down.

[A]

I'm saying I know what you. Oh, this is best album. This is. This is for.

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For hip hop.

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No doubt. This.

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I think. I think.

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But Nas's was first. And that's. You know I'm not.

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Right? I'm not. Yeah, that's.

[A]

That's sacrilege.

[B]

I love Illmatic.

[A]

I've.

[B]

I've watched.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, no, I know what you're saying.

[B]

Live with the Symphony orchestra.

[A]

Listen, I get what you're saying. I'm not disagreeing. I was just. With you leaving on a Sunday afternoon. What?

[B]

So for me, it. It was.

[A]

This was.

[B]

Are you having. Are you okay?

[A]

Is this. Are we okay?

[B]

I'm like, is the audio fine, aj, Because.

[A]

All right, here we go.

[B]

This mother. This tripping.

[A]

The violing in your face. Take your place. The backstabbers. Backstabbers.

[B]

Yeah, dude. All right, so I feel like I've asked you this before, but I just want to refresh my memory. Like you are.

[A]

You are.

[B]

Your formative years here in New York City.

[A]

No, Chicago.

[B]

Okay. Yeah.

[A]

So I got my Wu Tang in Chicago. I was big. I came up on Big Daddy Kane, Public, Enemy, X Clan, when Busta Rhymes was with leaders of the New School Los, the Lords of the Underground, Low Tug. We're talking about Queen Latifah, Moni Love. We're talking about MC Light. We're talking about. I mean, you can go. There's so much hip hop. Intelligent, Hulam, yz, Lakim, Shabazz, Underground Hip hop. And like I said, Public, LL Cool J, Run dmc, the Beastie Boys. I saw them in concert. The Beasties, Yeah. Epmd. I saw all them in one. It's like LL Cool J, EPMD I saw. Yeah, Houdini. I come up on, like, hip hop. Hip hop. You're talking about Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five. The message. I came up on hip hop, like, from the. Like, fuck, yeah. I came up on hip hop, hip hop. You know, when it was Simple. Don't push me. Cause I'm close.

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Which I love that.

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That's one of the greatest songs ever.

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But did you ever. Did you ever hear him Broken glass everywhere? No, dude. Did you ever hear him do his. Like, his. Like. He tried to do like a dish to Eminem.

[A]

It was hilarious. I don't think you know what you.

[B]

Do with roaches coming out your book.

[A]

You better watch. Because what you pursue. And you know. And Eminem was like, I'm gonna leave.

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Him alone, this motherfucker.

[A]

He ever got a mustache? Eminem would have fucking sliced and diced him. Because you just let him go. Anybody from the 70s dissing Eminem, you're like this. That was cute.

[B]

AJ, pull that. Find that clip for the end of the show. That's amazing.

[A]

That was hilarious.

[B]

It was one of my. It was one of my favorite things ever.

[A]

Sucker MC's coming at me. You better watch your ass. Cause this ain't for free. I'm gonna tell you, Eminem, I don't like it. Cause this is your end. 1, 2, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19 and 20 coming through.

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Cause I got plenty right there, dude.

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A, B, C, D, E, F, G. You think you can mess with me, but let me tell you. Lmnop. But that's okay. Cause you can't see. You're right. The black and the Jew sitting right here looking at you. Cause we all have fear. But that's okay. Because you're listening in your ear.

[B]

You're done. All right. Good God. There is so.

[A]

But I love that.

[B]

But I love that. I love that you. You look. Because, like, I look at hip hop as monumental. I think there's. It's like this in rock and roll.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But I'm looking over this list which. The message. Yes. 82. And then you have like run DMC. And then hip hop change from there. And then you have the Beastie Boys, which is like where you get white people.

[A]

Really?

[B]

Well, it was.

[A]

It was. It was the brilliance of Russell Simmons that brought in Beastie Boys. Let me tell you about Beastie Boys, a song called by Tila Rock. Teela Rock was the first Def Jam artist. And he has a song called It's Yours. It's the fucking. Do you like it? Yeah. Do you want it? Yeah. If you had it, would you flaunt it? Hell yeah. Well, it's yours. Commentating, illustrating that this dude was this. This beat you talk about. The essence of 80s hip hop was Teela Rock. He had one song, it's yours. It was a big hit. And the people in the background going, yeah, are the Beastie Boys. They weren't signed yet. They're going, yeah, it's the Beastie Boys in the background. And so the brilliance of Russell Simmons was like, I need some white dudes that could rap.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

And so they come from the punk. The punk era, you know, the punk rock, like no Sleep in Brooklyn. Oh, dude, you gotta fight for your right. So you got mca, you got King AK Rock, and, you know, all of those guys. And they changed the game with the white dudes. Before the M&Ms, there was, even before Everlast, there was. There was the Beastie Boys.

[B]

And I know. And. And the cool thing is they do License to Ill, which they're just.

[A]

Which that album is.

[B]

It's phenomenal. But then I love that they completely go, that's not who we are. We don't want to do that. And then they do. Paul's Boutique doesn't get the. That. It deserves it. And it's years later, we do it on the podcast.

[A]

You listen to it, and it's a lot of funky. It's like funk.

[B]

It's like sergeant Pepper in music.

[A]

Retro. And there's rock in it. They mix it up. They mix it. It's very alti alternative, sort of hip hop. Sort of. Yeah.

[B]

But moving on, you have. Then in 88, you have. You NWA well, 88, you have members.

[A]

86, you got Eric B and rock.

[B]

Sure, I'm skipping ahead. I'm looking at. No, but you're right. You're right, because this. This is the number they gave you. So to go into Eric being Rakim paid in full in 87. Then you have Straight out of Compton.

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Straight out of Compton.

[B]

Which nwa Because.

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Because.

[B]

Because Rakim changes the way the rhyming. Like, he's the guy that basically says it doesn't have to be like, you know, Bubba, double DEA and a hunky.

[A]

N. Well, Rakim is like, stop bugging. Her brother said, dig him. I never dug him. He couldn't follow the leader long enough. So I. In the danger zone. You should arrange its own. Face it, space it, arrange it, change the tone. It's one all in the Alphabet and it's the one of the word. And it's about to get one more complex from one rhyme to the next. Eric B, be easy on the flex. So it was. He rhymed like he said he was. You know, he was.

[B]

Double couplet. He played saxophone. Oh, yeah.

[A]

So he rhymed like Bebop, like Coltrane and he. That's so that's what. That's where he like paralleled his rhyme style and he was ahead of his time and today his shit's still relevant. You're like, oh my God.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

His rap. Oh, Rakim is sick.

[B]

What I love about this podcast and even to bring it back to the album we're going to be talking about today is that like I knew I with Eric B and Rakim, like don't sweat the Technique Juice, Alt, know the Ledge, all that. But to listen to like Paid in Full and then to listen to something like De La Soul, which is like.

[A]

Alt, you know, in the beginning, alt hip hippie too.

[B]

Alt hippie. And then the bands that I really loved, which were like Public Enemy and then to be able to have Cypress Hill on and talk about how they are doing the Public Enemy. But then the. But you have these monumental records which like even just Outcast being inducted into the Rock and Roll hall of fame within 94 with Southern playlistic, you know music Cadillac music. You have NAS in 94. But in. In 94, I mean there are these shifts and. And it's just Notorious B.I.G.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Is with Wu Tang, with everything. Yeah. Is. Is what I think is at the precipice at took hip hop from being. Hey, this is a sub genre of music that money off of to a point to now a we can be multi, multi millionaires and be the biggest artist in the world.

[A]

I think the people that took it worldwide was Run dmc. They were the first, but they didn't.

[B]

Make the money that Biggie made.

[A]

Okay, okay. But you know, I'm not putting the same stadiums.

[B]

You're right.

[A]

I. I went to the concerts.

[B]

But you know what I'm saying.

[A]

I. I know what you're saying. But when they. When they locked in with Errol Smith, it was a rap.

[B]

Of course, of course you remember that dude brought a Smith back.

[A]

Right, right, right. That's what just. And then I found out that Steve, you know, Steven Tyler had. I saw his little find your roots on pbs. Black. He got black roots. And I go, ah, I knew them lips in the face.

[B]

Is he really. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

He's got black. Because you know, do you ever see find your roots with this guy named Dr. Henry Lewis Gates? Oh, yeah, yeah, he has that. He had Ben Affleck. Sit down. Everybody finds their roots.

[B]

You're white.

[A]

You come from a line of pricks.

[B]

Oh jlo. You're from the CI age lineage of the world. Puerto Rico.

[A]

What I was.

[B]

What I was trying to get to is like. Is like, I'm looking over this list of some of the music, and I'm looking at these albums that changed my life. And it's funny is that this just never. It. It. It's. I'm. I hate to say it. It's like, dude, I'm so late. I always. I always respected him, knew he was one of the best. I arguably now think that Notorious B.I.G. in ready to Die is Argue is. Is hands down, one of the greatest debut albums of all time. And I think. I think lyrically, he is on another level because of the way that he rhymes. We watch here. Pull this clip up.

[A]

I said. I said wordplay, AJ Pull that.

[B]

Pull the Shock G clip up. I found this earlier.

[A]

Geez. My man was my man.

[B]

Rest in peace. Yeah, but this is a great video to explain some of the most important mcs. You put the headphones on so you can hear this because this is him breaking down.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

This is breaking down.

[A]

Humpty Hump and Slick Rick rhyme from the nasal palate. Yeah, I saw this.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Nas rhymes from the back of his throat. Biggie is a swinger. He swings like a horn player over jazz BI GPO P, P A no info for the DEA he put more emphasis on the. He's just spelling his name, but the flow. Vicious. Yeah. Yeah. You know, the last time I saw Shock G was in the street right there on six dive. I saw him. He goes, godfrey, man, what's up, dog? I go, yo, Shot. What up? He go. I go, so, what's been up? What are you doing? He goes, nah. You know, kind of backed away from the biz, man. It's too fucking weird. It's just. He just backed away from me. He's kind of. You see how he kind of disappeared?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

He goes, yeah, man, I'm not really feeling it like that anymore, man. It's a little wild and shit. I was. That was the last time I saw him, just in the street. He was like, yo, God, what up? I was like, holy Shock, G. It's.

[B]

He. I mean, the Humpty Dance. He's one of the main reasons that Tupac has a career.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

He's one of the first people that discovered him.

[A]

You gotta understand, they were all around each other at the time.

[B]

Oh, yeah. But. But just. It's. It's so funny. Is like that he gets written off as just the Humpty Dance dude, but it's like Digital Underground sex package got.

[A]

So big, and then you know, Tupac was part of Digital Underground all around the world.

[B]

Same song, I Come From. The party.

[A]

Was like, safe.

[B]

Oh, that was nothing but trouble, dude.

[A]

That movie was safe. And then Tupac's all got. I got to feel it. The. No, I got to kill him. I don't. They don't feel me. I don't. A couple. Be the seat of the bubble to be me to the seat. Okay.

[B]

September 13, 1994, is when this record comes out. This is the debut studio record from Notorious B.I.G. aka Christopher Wallace. Born and bred in Brooklyn. Brooklyn.

[A]

He's Jamaican too. Is.

[B]

I mean, the story. I watched this like, little documentary about him. I don't think there is somebody that has combined such smooth delivery, complex internal rhymes, vivid storytelling, and a larger than life Persona.

[A]

And rest in peace to his mother who just did.

[B]

She just died. Yeah. Did she really?

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Where Were you in 1994? September 13th. And did you discover this right away or was this something?

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I was. Because, I mean, when you're on in hip hop already, I'm already 80s hip hop. I'm already know hip hop.

[B]

I love it.

[A]

So I already know what. What's coming down the. The pipeline and 94. What the. I was 94. Oh. I was like, you know, I finished college. 93. And then I was like getting into like, I think the comedy game at some point. I was starting to walk, come up, go out to comedy shows. And I was thinking about it. I studied psychology and all this other. And I was like, man, got my degree in psychology. So I was like, man, I'm thinking about this comedy shit. So I started just, you know, ended partying. I was going to parties and shit like that. But yeah, I was always. I was. I remember me and my boy. My boy.

[B]

Cootie.

[A]

Cootie, who did. Who literally produced and filmed and narrated the Kanye west the first documentary. That's my boy, Cootie.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Cootie I came up with in the comedy Game in Chicago.

[B]

Right on.

[A]

And so he was. He's the first person that had this album.

[B]

Oh, wow.

[A]

And so we had. Did a. I think we did a show at my college, University of Illinois. And he was bumping this in the fucking hotel. Unbelievable. It's unbelievable. Biggie dun dun dun. And that. Unbelievable. You know where that comes from?

[B]

What's that?

[A]

That comes from R. Kelly. It's unbelievable. That's them speeding that song up. It comes from R. Kelly's lyric. Yeah, but that song was like, my shit.

[B]

So were you attracted to this record immediately?

[A]

Oh, my God.

[B]

Or was it. Was there like a. Because I. You know what's so funny is that I'm not. Not shitting on the introduction song that came. But I think Big Papa, which is a great song, it's. In my opinion, it's one of the laziest songs on the record. It's the hit and it's iconic.

[A]

It's amazing what becomes a hit. But I go, unbelievable. Sometimes I go on stage with it. Dump da dum dum Biggie, don't, don't, don't.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Oh, my God. It's like me, Biggie. Oh, my God.

[B]

Was this played at the clubs? I mean, obviously you're going out at this time. I mean, I'm 12. Yeah, yeah, 12, 13 when this came out.

[A]

This is playing at clubs and like that, but in cars and like that. And then you go to the record store to get these things. I was. I had the cd.

[B]

You had to go to the Waxy Maxi.

[A]

I had the CD shit we had that was like, yo, slide that in.

[B]

Oh, yo, take this big plastic off.

[A]

Open that. Why you tape it like that? I ain't gonna take it. Wait, how much is it? 16.99 with tax. 23.688 it. I got the first one to get it.

[B]

Thank God eggs are only 75 cent, 45 dozen.

[A]

It's facts because I remember getting the Illmatic and I was like, yo, that was a big deal to have Illmatic to have Follow the leader, Eric B and Rakim's album, you, you always. And when I had Public Enemy, we were in line for Public Enemies. Fear of a Black Planet. We were in line for these records, man.

[B]

God, it's my. Such a incredible album. Fear of a Black Planet. So funny. Just imagine.

[A]

Welcome to the terror dome. I got so much trouble. Oh, my, my Refuse to lose. Here's your ticket. It dude.

[B]

I had Terminator X's solo record and I saw him do that on like the Apollo or something. And I was obs.

[A]

I had a moment. Apocalypse be nice.

[B]

I was. I was. I was Digital underground. I was. I mean, wuang came later, but it was, it was. And it was so funny because I just had Be Real from Cypress Hill.

[A]

On the podcast I keep in touch with him on.

[B]

He's the man. Dr. Dre. That's what I said. We used to do this. Me, my. My buddy was supposed to do stand up comedy with me. We used to make a joke about like, about, like, about like Cypress Hill doing. Doing like different songs. Like them doing nursery rhymes.

[A]

Like hickory dickory duck, the nurse turns off the clock.

[B]

It's just. It's so dumb. But it's like. But it.

[A]

But it worked.

[B]

But that's the thing is that, like, it was so funny what I was attracted to and when. As far as hip hop and how I just didn't with Biggie. I showed him the respect.

[A]

But that's okay, though.

[B]

I don't think so. I feel bad.

[A]

Oh, I never really fucked with him. I go, damn, I should have fucked with this. It happens. Like, there was a time I didn't really fuck with jazz hard until Spike Lee movies came out. I was in 88, 89. I was like. Cause Spike Lee's dad, Bill Lee, did a lot of compositions in the movies. I go, I love jazz. And then Cosby's show. Cosby was a jazz head, and he would play it on the Cosby Show. And I go, fuck, man, this is amazing. Then I started to listen to jazz. I started appreciating Miles Davis. I started appreciating John Coltrane, Son Rollins, Ornette Coleman, Max Roach, Art Blakely and all. So I got a deep dive into jazz. And I go, I get it.

[B]

You wait, hold on for a second. You.

[A]

You do.

[B]

You sit down on a Sunday morning and put on the shape of jazz to come by. Ornette Coleman.

[A]

Dope. And I, and I, and I. But I like bebop. I like bebop.

[B]

How could you not?

[A]

I like the Dizzy Gillespie to like. I like that. But then I even like the big band from Duke Ellington and Count Basie. Ain't nobody Count Basie Band. I'm sorry. Count Basie's, man. That's Frank Sinatra. Frank Sinatra.

[B]

Tell me about jazz.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I grew up in a jazz household.

[A]

Right, Right. You know what I'm saying?

[B]

That hit me just like Frank Sinatra. But that's what's great about music. Is that to take it back to this. Is that. Is that I wasn't not looking forward to this record coming out. And truth be told, I'm gonna tell you, we.

[A]

We have this is what makes it even more.

[B]

You want to know. You want to know who the guest was supposed to be, and they dropped down the last second, so. And I'm so glad it's you to be the replacement because I have so much fun with you. Yeah, but it's Busta Rhymes. It's like we were supposed to have bust to do this, and I was like, I had the whole fucking shit written. And it's like, this would have been so perfect what happened? It's just.

[A]

He was.

[B]

His new record comes out in February, and he goes, I want to do it. I want to do an episode in February when I have something.

[A]

Oh, that's even better. Sure, that's great.

[B]

But this is like. There's Run DMC in February. Thank God you got Run DMC with Raisin. No, we don't have. But that's the record we can get him to do. But this is what I love, because there's no way. If I was sitting here, here with. With Busta Rhymes, we could have gone.

[A]

For smiling in your face. That's not true.

[B]

Damn, you must be hanging, dude.

[A]

Oh, I'll take your place. No, but. No, he knows those songs.

[B]

Yeah, but he wouldn't have had the same.

[A]

He would have been like, yo, how you gonna do that to me, son? God damn. That's one of my favorite. My favorite bands. Are you serious, son? You crazy about that?

[B]

Oh, I love that. He loves stp.

[A]

Oh, I love stp. Their first one, the other one. Oh, God, the first album.

[B]

Well, the first album's core, that was the one. So this is what I'm saying about records, and this is why it's so sad that I just didn't appreciate this at the time.

[A]

And up here.

[B]

Plush. Your plush. Yes, that's the song. That was what got me into that.

[A]

That's what that was. The first song.

[B]

I had the CD delivering flyers. I was.

[A]

My manager at the time was playing. I go, who's that? I love that. Yeah, that's my. And I'm feeling. He's the reason. All.

[B]

The reason I sing and do all this on stage is all him, Otis Redding and Axl Rose. Those are my three biggest influences.

[A]

You like hard singers? I love.

[B]

Love energy.

[A]

Energy. No energy.

[B]

And I love front man.

[A]

What about, you know, else you should. With Wilson Pickett?

[B]

Oh, don't.

[A]

That'll make you think. I don't know about Wilson. How about Wilson Pickett? I'm gonna wait till the minute. I just want to see him snap. When you see Wilson Pickett and. And Wilson Pickett and. And Tom Jones sing together. Have you seen that one?

[B]

Get it. Get the clip ready.

[A]

You gotta see them.

[B]

Get it ready.

[A]

And then watch Tommy. Tommy. Tom Jones sing as black as. As Wilson Pink Pickett. That's his hero. It's amazing. It's like me and. It's like. Let's say it's me and you and it's Wilson Pickett, but you're Tom Jones. I'm gonna wait till.

[B]

I just Love. And I think that's why I love out of Wu Tang. I love Old Dirty Bastard out of all of them. Because Old Dirty Bastard and that's. Dude, I'll say this right now. Return to the 36 chambers, I think is a perfect, perfect album. And I am, I am return to the 36 chambers, his solo.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I am one of the few people in this world that is lucky to say I saw. Oh, I saw Old Dirty Bastard live at the 9:30 Club with the Brooklyn Zoo solo. Just him, no other members. And, and I've seen Wu Tang a million times throughout the years, and he was never there. And most people never got to see him because he's either in jail or he was on drugs. That's like saying you saw Jimi Hendrix. I know, that's, I know it's no, it's facts, facts. But it's like you're seeing a legend. Did you ever now.

[A]

So talented too. Wow. What a.

[B]

So talented.

[A]

What a talent. Just his first album when he's like, you ever, you ever do this contest? That's, that's a track. He's like this.

[B]

You ever see, you know, you ever.

[A]

Try to challenge somebody, see who could do this the longest? And we used to do that as kids and he put it on his album.

[B]

He did. I was watching a video of like on Tick Tock of like, of RZA talking about, about him and it was just like when it was the, the shame on a verse.

[A]

Shame on it.

[B]

But he, he, he did, he was like, he did that on like three separate things. They're like, you've already done it. He goes, don't worry about it.

[A]

It's good. And, and it was, and it was great. And I, you know, I love when rza. I met RZA finally. Big ass Rizza. I met his, his cousin looks just like him. They have a live band. Oh yeah. Yeah. I, dude, it's just like him.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And I was like, like, I love when RZA talks. You, you have to understand about Old Dirty Bastard, you know, Wuang, you know what I mean? I mean, he, he wanted, he wanted, he wanted those dudes, you know what I mean? He like a rebel in his own mind, you know? I mean, he, he different, you know? I mean, you, you can't really figure him out, you know what I'm saying? But his style, you know, amalgamates with what we doing in the vortex, huh? Know what I mean? Like bong Bong.

[B]

I love him. I, I, I, I think, I think up until Wuang forever you have the greatest run of records. I think it's up there with. I think it Kanye's run up until, up until he went like Pablo or it started getting a little. But, but then he lost control and that was that. Now I want to bring you this before we start going through some tracks. I definitely would talk about some lyrics with Biggie. Yeah, is, is, is Biggie tainted because of Puffy and is this the best record that Bad Boy has ever put out? Because there is no Bad Boy, cuz what it's Craig Mac because there's Craig Mack.

[A]

Craig Mack who was with them and Flavor, remember that?

[B]

That was a giant song. Joe Schwartz, this kid, he was one of our friends had a car and his parents were rich so he used to get us weed and drive us around. He played that record. The me knowing what Bad Boy is is Big Papa. This record so on and so.

[A]

Well Biggie is tainted a little bit because of his association with Puffy. But Puffy was powerful at the time. I mean if I was we were artists back then we would have probably got with Puffy. Puffy so saw the Saw as our talent. I'd be like yeah, I want to get with Puffy. Because Puffy, let's be real. We know about all his antics. But he's made some dope ass music like for real. And think about. It's like, it's like Phil Spector, he's a piece of. But he made some badass music. But he was horrible. But it happens music. So music producers being shitty. That's almost goes with the territory, you know what I'm saying? That have made the greatest songs in the world. World. You look at some of these bands that hate each other like Led Zeppelin and Crosby, Stills and Nash and all these. I, I, I, I think it's a little bit tainted. But you don't take his, his, his talent is so powerful. You, you still relate that. I, I think the, the sad. I think it's more sad his story. For me it's a sadness because he died at 24. Him and Tupac were you know, hanging out with each other and they were pitted against each other. Who knows if it could have been on purpose. It could have been some back caused that riff.

[B]

Well Beef sells podcast right now. Dude.

[A]

It's like it's orchestrated.

[B]

It's orchestrated. But I think, I think this one.

[A]

Said that they both had to. Their lives were taken because they were. It was on and popping with these. Can you imagine if they were still around? It's like imagine if Bruce Lee was still here. Like the. As far as philosophy and just.

[B]

Sure, man.

[A]

And Jimi Hendrix, Bob Marley. But a lot of was orchestrated for these people to be, I think, silence because they were so powerful and they had a message and people were following them. That's what I feel.

[B]

Do you think Puffy had something to do?

[A]

I, I, you know what? I could, I could, I, I could say that, I think, because he could have been the face of the bullshit. He could have just been like. I don't know. Sometimes I go, I wonder if he was part of it. Especially with him being in jail and all the. That's coming out. You go, I wonder if he was part of it. He's evil.

[B]

He's evil, dude.

[A]

I don't, But I, I don't want to just like, say that about him like that, because I don't have that info, and that's dangerous, of course. But I, I do go, well, he was there. Who knows? Was Suge Knight part of it? I don't know. Suge Knight's in jail. I don't know. It could be, you know, but there could be people higher than that that had them. There could be front men for, you know, there's other unseen hands. Look at Puffy. Situation, situation. He, with probably an unseen hand that was more powerful. Said, oh, you want to with us? Okay.

[B]

Isn't that crazy that you have, you can have. You know, I think the, finally, the Tupac murder, the guy kind of admitted it or something, and they, they didn't get it. Like, I don't know if it's like a hundred percent, but I remember a few years ago, this guy was like, yo, he said something. Two of the biggest rap stars, of course, they just both happen to be black. Yeah, Killed, dude. Killed literally on Wilshire and fucking Fair and Fairfax. Wilshire and Fairfax. Well, no, it's. No, it's Wilshire.

[A]

I know exactly where that is.

[B]

Fairfax down. Yes.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. They're perpendicular to each other. Yeah, I know exactly where.

[B]

In front of the automobile thing. That is like. That is like one of the busiest streets in Los Angeles.

[A]

Design. Yeah, I know, I know exactly where that is. Wilshire and Fairfax. And who knows who set it up. You know, there's so many different when you set something up, so many people can be in on it. There has to be some inside shit, Trojan Horse type shit. You know what I mean?

[B]

So.

[A]

So. And these guys were powerful. I mean, you're talking about Tupac, who came from a, you know, a, a, a, A liberal arts high school in Baltimore who was very, very well mannered and articulate. And his mom, who was Afini Shakur, who was part of the Black Panthers, Black awareness, very powerful. And then he goes to the. You know, he goes. He's from the. The east side and he goes west, starts being influenced by the west, and his style starts to change. He gets. With Dr. Dre and all this, and, you know, I mean, and then Biggie and him start to clash. And, yeah, it's. Who knows what's. Who started that. There's. I think there's so many elements.

[B]

It's crazy that it hasn't come out.

[A]

Especially that I think Jam Master, Jam Master J, who got murdered over some. And that was a big mystery. This. This is a. This game is hip hop comes from a lot of street, a lot of drug shit. A lot of, you know, there's a lot of people that came out of that became rappers. You know, it's the same shit. So there's a lot of. I think there's a lot of history between people that haven't been resolved. A lot of beefs with different clicks. You know, I was just a person listens to the shit, you know what I mean? And. And what's funny is being a comedian over the years, I know a lot of these motherfuckers now. And I know I would have met Biggie or Tupac if they were still around. Oh, yeah, because I know DJ Quick, I know Dr. Dre. I know the Wu Tang Clan. I hang with Ghostface.

[B]

Do you know Russell would have. Would have been Russell.

[A]

It would have been at Russell's house. Yeah, it would have been Russell Peters would have been like, yeah, I'm with him right now. He's in the bathroom brushing his teeth. You know, Biggie's like this, hold on, I'm almost finished brushing my teeth. He's like, yo, where's the Crest, baby? Baby, you know, I only use. Crest, is the best in the West. I brush my teeth. Got the cavities. Can't believe it. These. I'm eating the candies, Tupac.

[B]

Like, I need. I need a float stick like this.

[A]

I can't believe it. You're using Crest. I use the Cold Gate. The. I don't care if you hate. Don't understand that I'm trying to floss the. You know, I'm the boss. Can you feel me? Can you hear me? You know?

[B]

Oh. And then right at that moment, that was pretty hot.

[A]

I thought that was not bad, right?

[B]

And then right at that moment, the guy battling Eminem would come out like hold up everybody. It's time for me to spit. Get your, with your press.

[A]

I am down.

[B]

You're just kind of being mean to me. A up your teeth like a cavity like you've been doing that for 45 minutes. Can you spit a rhyme now? I'm not done yet.

[A]

Can't believe you interrupted me. Check it out, this ain't for free. A breath control. You little, little. I don't give a damn. Cause I'm not gonna switch.

[B]

I wanna, I wanna talk about. I, I really. Honest to God.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

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[A]

Dig it.

[B]

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The Beast in me launches November 13th only on Netflix. I honest to God think Biggie's greatest work. He'll never I think this is him personified in one song is Gimme the Loot. I think Give me the Loot might have some of the greatest lyrics he's ever said. It's so fun.

[A]

Every. Every. That's. That's. Hey, that's a listen every moment. Method man is sick, sure, but I don't think he ever shortstop any look at the 10 crack commandments. Are you serious, dude?

[B]

First of all, Lord have mercy. I mean I don't want to just pull out certain lyrics of what are fun but there is, but there is a run. There is a watch.

[A]

Tell me the lyrics of this song.

[B]

So I, I think the you know I've been. I I mean I could start at you know word is bond a smoking yo don't fake no moves that's really. It's. I don't want to say the word but Edward, you ain't gotta. You ain't got to explain I've been robbing since the slave ships with the.

[A]

Same clip in the same four or.

[B]

Five two point blanks a sure to die that's my word. Even try to bogard have his mother singing. It's so hard and it just keeps going, going. Dude, it's like with the, you know, with the thick up. I mean it's, it is every single couplet.

[A]

It's unreal is and you're picturing it. They're robbing somebody Bong bong have a nice dream because I've got the setup.

[B]

I mean it's, it's unreal.

[A]

It's un. It's unbelievable.

[B]

I will put this song up again against any Eminem song or any Nas song or any Wu Tang song.

[A]

My my, my, my favorite Biggie song with unbelievable is probably top for me. Unbelievable and then my other one probably is the same is kicking the door. Can I show you? You're kicking the doors on is short like leprechauns as I crush so called villies thugs and rapidons get in the ass quick fast like Ramadan it's the rap phenomenon Don daughter papa, you gotta call me Francis MH White intake like totes tote like iron was told to shoot out. Stay low and keep firing. Keep extra strips for extra who's next? Flip on that cap with the grip on rap the most shady frakie baby ain't no telling where I may be. You may see me in D.C. at how a homecoming with my man Capone dumbing something you should know my Steelo went from 10G's for blow to 30Ds or so to orgies 1 holes I never seen before. So Jesus, get off the Notorious Peanuts before I squeeze and bust. If this beef between us we could settle it with the chrome and metal. I make it hot like a kettle. Get, get delicate you better get. Who said you still pedal? I got more ideas than great. I got more, more rise than great adventure big lord have mercy.

[B]

Great, but that's great.

[A]

Oh, I got more right. And then he goes, goes. Then you go. I throw. I said I'll dirt in your eyes. Now you're brailing it. I said good lord, what the was. Now you're brailing it, son. Get the out of here, son. That was. That wasn't. Oh my God. Sell more Potter than Johnson Johnson. Get the. That was insanity.

[B]

No, I'm not saying. What. I'm not saying.

[A]

That's just my thing, of course. And I'm not gonna beat from screaming Jay Hawkins, but I'm not saying that this, this is.

[B]

Is that. That he doesn't have better lyrics on other songs, like better couplets or better beats or whatever. I just think for this record, for him to drop this song, I think there's a reason it's the third track on it. Because things done changed, obviously. You know, the intro, you got to do the intro, which I think is pointless, you know, obviously. But things done change, which is, you know, it's talking about like around his neighborhood, you know, he's talking about his past. But give me the loot, I feel like is a mission statement to what this is about. And not only is he doing that, but he's. He is doing everything Shock G said. He is jazz in it. He is, dude.

[A]

He's. He's.

[B]

He's. He's giant steps.

[A]

He's but that's all these guys that kick in the door is what he's about to. Sure, but this is.

[B]

We're talking about this record. That's the other one.

[A]

No, but I just want to throw that in there.

[B]

Of course.

[A]

It's great battle you. Can I see one more?

[B]

Are we battling.

[A]

Are we battling Biggie style right now? Dude, get AJ in here.

[B]

Aj What? Dude, AJ knew every lyric to this album.

[A]

I just want to say real quick, this goes out for those that choose to use disrespectful views on the King of NY that. Why try throw bleach in your eye now you're brailing it Snatch that light shit I'm scaling it Conscious of your nonsense in 88 so more powder than Johnson Johnson tote steel like Bronson Vigilante you want to get on, son, you need to ask me Ain't no other kings in this rap thing they sibling things nothing but my children what shot they disappearing it's ill When MCS used to be on cruddy took home ready to die Listen, study now they on some money successful out the blue they lightweight, fragile like my 9 milli make the whites white shakes that's why my money never funny and you're still recouping stupid. Oh, my God. Like, are you. And he said ready to dot already put it in the. That in the album, in the study. Oh, Lord. That's just. It's just. Oh, he's just lyrically. Just pop. The lyrical Buddha.

[B]

You ever been around Lyrical Buddha? Okay, I'm gonna defend. Give me the loot again.

[A]

You don't have to defend it, because I love that song.

[B]

Hold up, because I want to talk about this.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

You ever. You ever been around somebody that's about to rob a. No, you never. You've never. Have you ever been robbed?

[A]

No. I mean, I've got my bike taken from me. Damn it.

[B]

I was hoping you had a good rob story.

[A]

No, I don't.

[B]

In Chicago.

[A]

Well, Jesus is. That's what they do over there in Chicago. Give it up.

[B]

Have you seen what the mayor used to look like?

[A]

But no, I've never been robbed.

[B]

The fucking alien from the shape of water.

[A]

Think about it. Crime happens, but not to everybody.

[B]

Of course.

[A]

You think there's a million robberies. It's like one. It's. It's.

[B]

I've only been robbed once, and it was when I put myself in that situation in downtown.

[A]

No, I never been.

[B]

But I've been around people. I've been around wannabe fake gangsters in Gaithersburg, man.

[A]

Yeah. I've never been wrong.

[B]

That, that, that On a night of us doing a bunch of. First time hanging out with these guys, I told this story on the Crab Feast podcast a long Was like, these dudes wanted to be. They were. They were like in the mindset of, like, this guy, this character. Because I don't think this is Biggie. I think this is Biggie singing about guys that he's met before because he grew up in Brooklyn. I think. I think Biggie was a drug dealer and I think he was a lover. I think he would. Dude, you can't be that fat. How you gonna get. How you gonna get away? How you gonna get away?

[A]

But if you look in a kooky sweater, you look at.

[B]

He's like, what was he wearing?

[A]

He had 19 different colors, Bill Cosby sweater on.

[B]

He's breathing Cosby.

[A]

Like, where'd you get the sweater? Biggie? And then he came to the cars. He said, hey, Mr. Cosby, I would love a sweater. You see, Biggie, when you take my sweater out, you can't be talking about killing and the fucking drugs. I want you to go out there and do some safe, clean fun videos and the music, okay? You can't say, give me the loot and kill people. You can't do it with my sweater on. Okay, Mr. Cubby caused me no problem.

[B]

That's my bad. Hold on.

[A]

That old corny.

[B]

Yeah, I'm go off. I'm gonna go take a break. I'm gonna cover my drink real quick. For some reason, I get bad vibes from you.

[A]

Yo, let me tell you something, Mr. Cosby. Go eat a. Go eat a pudding box.

[B]

Yo, yo.

[A]

Right?

[B]

So what I'm trying to get to is, is I think that. I think that give me the loot is just the perfect. The perfect example of why this album's on the list. It's not just all the other songs. They're all equally important for me. It's. It's just. It's just the. The. The couplets, the way he rhymes. Just like Shock G said, it showcases everything. The storytelling. He paints such a great picture, you know, and then to move on, because I want to talk about another couple songs and I want to talk which. Which some people say this might be one of the most important and greatest hip hop songs of all time. And it's juicy, which is. You know, but it's. There's. It's like this positive message that anybody can do any. This is all the. That said I wouldn't Amount to nothing. And, you know, it's. It's really like, you know, just right from the beginning, it was all a dream. It's like he said, it's like, you.

[A]

Should pin up magazine. And he says. Talks about the black magazines that we had. My sister had. I used to work. Word up magazine was a black magazine. We had Right On. We had like.

[B]

Because it's always like, huh?

[A]

He's always like, yeah. Huh? Hail? No. You ever have hail? Hell, no. Hell, no. Then it was like, right on. Give me five. There was. Give me five. It was like, oh, ain't that a. You ever have that?

[B]

Black people are the best, you guys. I swear to God.

[A]

But we have no choice to be the best, because if you're not, and this is all facts. There used to be a thing called Tiger Beat.

[B]

I know that.

[A]

Come on. I know the white.

[B]

It's like the white.

[A]

My brother, dude.

[B]

Also the names of, like, your. All your plays. Like, all that. Dude, I used to. Because I grabbed. I grew up in dc.

[A]

Your arms are too short to box with God.

[B]

Live at The Louis Gossett Jr. Amphitheater, Lawrence Taylor, the Dionne Warwick Theater presents.

[A]

But this all came from not being included. It was just like, you know, Ebony Magazine, Essence. And then I had some white friends goes, well, why do you guys say black? I go, my man, really? You gotta get educated and stop being fucking stupid. Stupid. Nobody's trying to go black this, black that. Black history. You didn't let us in. You left us out of. So then we got to claim our own. It's like, Latinos have the Alamo Awards. They have the Latino this. They have Bueno Magazine because you didn't let them in. Let's say the world were equal and white men were nice to everybody and didn't fucking keep. There was something called the Negro Leagues because they didn't allow black people to play basketball, baseball. So that's where it comes from. You know what I'm saying? So my sister had. My sister had Tiger Beat because she loved Leaf Garrison. She liked Sean Cassidy. She loved all the white guys, and she loved the black guys, too. We had it in our house.

[B]

We knew all the Richard Roundtree.

[A]

We knew all the white teen idols. We knew all the black teen idols because we had. Right on because we had his Todd Bridges. What?

[B]

You heard Todd.

[A]

But he's still around.

[B]

Around.

[A]

He's healthy. Todd Bridges. People don't understand that was a superstar.

[B]

No, I. Dude, I do different now.

[A]

The world don't move to the beat.

[B]

Of just One drum.

[A]

What might be right for you Good God. May not be right for some. A man is born, he's a man of needs Then along come too. They got Nothing but the GS. But they got different strokes. It takes different strokes in take different strokes through the world. Everybody's got a special kind of story. Everybody finds a way to shine. It don't matter that you got Not a lot. Say what? You have theirs, you have yours and I'll have mine. And together we'll be fine. It takes different strokes to rule the world. Yes, it does.

[B]

Dudley, get away from that pedophile.

[A]

Dudley, no. Dudley get away. Dude lost work forever. The dude that played the pedophile. That was the Maytag man.

[B]

Gordon Jump.

[A]

That guy was the Maytag man. And then he played that pedophile and it was a rap Damn dude. That's how good of an actor he was. Like you touch kids.

[B]

I learned so much from that show. Yeah, like just like I learned from naked with a old white man. That motherfucker.

[A]

You a nice little chocolate boy.

[B]

Don't go over to Mr. Horton's house.

[A]

Watch that finger in your booty right now. Taught me not to going back naked with Dudley.

[B]

Was that the. Was that the show also where they. They were playing hide and go seek and somebody hid in a refrigerator. And then they got. And they. That kind of taught us to never go into a refrigerator.

[A]

It might have been one of those.

[B]

Was that Small Wonder or one of.

[A]

It was always those sitcoms that had that lesson. It could have been Small Wonder. I wanted to kick that robot dude.

[B]

That robot.

[A]

That robot.

[B]

You know who could get it? Pokey Brewster that had.

[A]

I know. And she has.

[B]

Damn dude.

[A]

That was on a son Sunday after I love Sydney or some. I don't know.

[B]

I love Sydney.

[A]

It was some weird with. With Tony Randall. It was a I love Sydney show. Look up I love Sydney. Look up Tony Randall. I love. I think it's something Sydney to love it I love Sydney or something with some weird ass show. Bruce Lee would come on. It was Sunday. When was whack Sydney with a C.

[B]

Or with an S?

[A]

Try Sy.

[B]

There is nothing's coming up, dude.

[A]

Tony Randall.

[B]

Tony Randall. Randall.

[A]

Wait. Oh.

[B]

Love Sydney.

[A]

Love Sydney. I knew I ain't crazy. I told you. I told you. You think I'd be bullshitting. I know tv, bro. And you know Tony Randall's from the Odd Couple. The original.

[B]

Come on, dude. I didn't with that. I didn't say I didn't not with it.

[A]

But I love The Odd Couple. God dang. And then they did a black version with Damon Wilson, who played. Who played Lamont on Sanford and Son, and Ron Glass, who was on Barney Miller. The black guy.

[B]

But they had a black loved Barney Miller. Yeah, I was a Night Court, dude. Night where it was. Dude.

[A]

You remember that bass. That was for Barney Miller.

[B]

You talk about bass line. You're going to. You just heard me talk about Court.

[A]

It's not bad. Barney Miller. Listen, that Barney Miller.

[B]

Did they. There was.

[A]

Look at that opening of Barney Miller.

[B]

There was something that. There was something about. There was something about the 80s.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And the 90s TV show theme songs. That it felt like they cared.

[A]

They cared and made you.

[B]

Because we all. They knew we were all watching it.

[A]

The songs matched the show. Show. Yeah. You know what I mean now, though. Well, don't you think about who to be? And it tells a little story step by step. You can, you know, my parents love me.

[B]

Step behind me. Go on me.

[A]

It's a different world where you come from. Where you come from and where you come.

[B]

But that ruled. That was my favorite thing. Every season it was like a different.

[A]

Every season it was a different.

[B]

What the is.

[A]

You went this way. He went. No, it went like this. Where's the camera?

[B]

Where am I at?

[A]

Where's like this? Here it is. Ready?

[B]

Wait, hold on. Is this it?

[A]

No, you just got like this. It's like here. And it's like. Remember, it's like, dude, come on.

[B]

That was.

[A]

You know, Cosby was like this. What are we gonna do for the opening? See, I got an idea. Okay, first we're gonna come out. People dancing. I'll bring you out. Don't, don't, don't. And the music's going. You come out Rudy, then Theo, then my wife Claire. Then comes. Then Vanessa. So we're dancing.

[B]

We're doing the dance. Boop.

[A]

A die. But that the end. We're going to have a surprise. Okay, they're going to. The hands are going to be here.

[B]

You're going to cover.

[A]

They're going to say, who's behind there? Cosby.

[B]

Now, look, Felicia's like. I mean, just like we've done the other seven seasons.

[A]

I know this is going to be different. No one sort of knows. This time I'm going to go.

[B]

Last year I went.

[A]

This year. Remember the time I went. But this time. But this time, go Quincy.

[B]

I want to do a bossa nova version.

[A]

Give me the theme. Have you heard of Hickey Burr?

[B]

No.

[A]

That was Quincy Jones and Quincy Jones and Cosby did a jazz album called Hickey Burr. He's just doing sounds, and Quincy's playing music. It's a cool album.

[B]

I bet. It's incredible.

[A]

Really cool that, like, him and Quincy are. He has a singer, and they're just. It's called Hickey Burr, dude.

[B]

My dad went to college with Bill Cosby. He went to temple the same year while my dad was there. You could look in the yearbook and see that he ran track. Yeah.

[A]

He ran tr. And play football and went. I think he went to the Navy or something.

[B]

So I was. I was a huge Temple house basketball fan throughout the years, but. And I. I mean, how could you not love the Cosby Show?

[A]

I mean, you know, and it's unfortunate.

[B]

You know, unfortunately, how he ended.

[A]

Know how his career just. I mean, he did. I'm watching Cosby show now. They got it back on. I'm watching Cosby now, and it's one.

[B]

Of my favorite things to do is anytime I've ever hosted at, like, the seller or something like that, and I go, they always have, like, a drop in or something. Something. So, no, no, no, no, no. We'll have a drop in, and let's say it's like Che or it's Leslie or whoever the it is. And. And then I go, you know, guys, we'll do another comic. And then I'll be like, you're never gonna believe it, because we're at the greatest comedy club in the world. You never know who's gonna stop by. I can't believe he's here. And they're getting jazz. Like, oh, is it Mulaney? Is it Chris Rock and my guys? Bill Cosby and people are.

[A]

But everybody.

[B]

There's a mom. But if he walked up, you. I always say, you know it. If he walked up, y' all would.

[A]

Have been like, okay, what's he about to say?

[B]

You didn't expect me to be here. Oh, first of all, I didn't do it. No. Okay. I did, you know, lied all 57.

[A]

The. Lied all 57 of them. Lied my dick first.

[B]

God damn. All right, we got to wrap this. This up.

[A]

Yeah, let's.

[B]

Where we at, A.J. timewise, 51. All right. Big finale.

[A]

Okay, here we go.

[B]

What do we. I mean. All right.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

God damn. I. I love talking to you. I love having you on, man. You really are just like. All right, we. We got. Let's mention. We mentioned Big papa.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Big papa between the sheets.

[A]

Oh, man, that's. Is this all.

[B]

And I know I'm.

[A]

I. You know, this is a huge song hits, man. Is this.

[B]

Is this all being produced? Like, is this all Puffy?

[A]

I think because Buffy used a lot of songs from the 80s and stuff like that. Even every breath you take, he.

[B]

So give me the loot. Easy Moby. I hope he got paid for this. I hope these guys.

[A]

Easy Bow me who did Craig Max album.

[B]

Yeah, he's one of the early fucking bad boy guys, you know. DJ Premiere is unbelievable. Your favorite song.

[A]

And Primo is my. Not only my favorite friend. I'm a big gangstar fan. Gangstar with Guru. Come on now.

[B]

Amazing.

[A]

DJ Premier is my favorite. Like hip hop dj, like, Combs did produce.

[B]

Big Papa Combs did produce that. Combs really not as much as you'd think. He. He produced like an interlude. One more chance.

[A]

He's got his.

[B]

Got, like a footprint on there, but that's definitely Chucky Thompson and Blues Brothers.

[A]

You know, juicy comes from Mt Juicy Fruit, Rest in Peace to M2, who died, I think last year. But M2 was from that song. Ju. Juicy Fruit.

[B]

God damn. Just looking at the. This record. This record is. I mean, looking at some of like, just the. The list that this is on. Apple just put it on 100 Best Albums at number 32. It's definitely on the thousand and one records you need to listen to before you die.

[A]

All of that is subjective too. All that. Sure, sure.

[B]

But best albums of the 90s. Rolling Stone put this in a number eight. Yeah, I mean, on. On the new list. On the new list that came out in 2020. Post, like the summer of George Floyd. And when it was like, I might.

[A]

Think it's all your own. This is this list we're looking at.

[B]

So we're. This is. This is coming in at, like, where are we at right now? This is 134. On the new 2020 list, which was a more diverse voting group. This came. No, dude, it was. This is all old white people 100. There's no reason that we should be doing the Paul Butterfield blues ban and leaving off, you know, out of here. Well, it's very important. It is very important.

[A]

No, man. This lady just came out and said that the Grammys were rigged. As a woman, a CEO, she coming out like, Grammys have been rigged. They pay me millions of dollars to not say anything. We go, no, not the Grammys being rigged.

[B]

I know.

[A]

Come on. Not. Not Taylor Swift being Beyonce three times in a row. The. You mean it's not rigged? Of course it is. They said, well, who runs it? She goes, old white Guys, I go, no, no. Oh, white man run the grammars.

[B]

Well, I think this beautiful. I mean, and I vote for the Rock and Roll hall of Fame. And I've been voting since 21. And. And I wanted outcast in. And we got outcast in. I wanted Triben. We got Triben. You know, I think, I think. I don't think it should ever be called the Rock and Roll hall of Fame. It should be a popular music hall of fame.

[A]

It should be the music hall of fame. Yes. Period.

[B]

But to see someone. Because tribe has always been Tribe called Quest. Tribe called Quest is. Is. Is just one of my favorite hip hop group. And I think that's a good. That was such a good bridge between, you know, the past and the future of like art. Like you said, the jazz that our parents listen to, that we were like jazz rappers. Exactly.

[A]

And then jungle brothers.

[B]

And then for someone like Outkast, which this is the thing that pissed me off about it is like, yeah, Big boy performed, but it's like, dude, just like, just. Come on. Andre just. Dudes, he just. He's tired.

[A]

He's just done with everything.

[B]

I know, but it's.

[A]

Play us flute.

[B]

I know, but, dude, this is the place you do it.

[A]

Just do. They should have. They didn't perform together.

[B]

No. Big boy did a song and then they had like. Like Janelle Manae do.

[A]

Oh, man, not her again.

[B]

They had her do hey yah.

[A]

Oh, no, they had. They had I love J, but no, you.

[B]

They had Tyler. They.

[A]

They should be doing it. They should be doing it.

[B]

They had Tyler do Bombs over Baghdad.

[A]

He killed that.

[B]

Tyler's awesome. I like.

[A]

He's Nigerian too. Thank you.

[B]

He's awesome. Yeah, dude.

[A]

Guy like Tyler Creator. Yeah, dude, you killed that.

[B]

I'm Nigerian as well, dude. I heard. Yeah, dude, I did that. Was it called 23 and me? What is it?

[A]

23 of you? What is that thing called?

[B]

The Roots. Alex Haley's roots.

[A]

I did Alex Haley's roots Test Finding your roots.

[B]

I did Alex Haley's roots.

[A]

That's an actual show.

[B]

You gotta tell me. I saw the Barton's Dick in the bath house ones. Blew my mind. God's honest truth too, dude. That motherfucker's hung, dude. Varton, give him respect. Respect likes to do. He was at the Beverly Hot Springs in Hollywood, dude. Just. Just not like it was Reading rainbow.

[A]

Take a look. It's in a book.

[B]

Reading. Ready? I like looked up and I was.

[A]

Like, I can do anything.

[B]

Butterflies in the sky.

[A]

Take a look.

[B]

Got a no, but There's. But there's something about hip hop and someone like Tupac is going to get in the Rock and Hall of Fame. Someone like Biggie is going to.

[A]

They should have them. You're right. They should reave them, revamp it to the Music hall of Fame with the different genres. They need to do that. They are redoing. Because I was just in Cleveland. They are redoing the mu. They're doing some like renovations in the hall of Fame. It was closed. The rock and roll. I always go to the rock hall. But they should do it. It should be called the Music hall of Fame. And the genres. They should have the hip hop genre. The country. They should have a big. Yeah. It shouldn't be the Rock and Roll hall of Fame because it's not rock and roll anymore.

[B]

But. But I. But I think. And I think this is like this album, if I'm not mistaken is actually because this sold. I want to get all the little statistics out of them. Then I'm going to ask you two more questions and then we'll wrap this up because I got to get down to the west side. This album, where's the facts? Where is it? How much money? How much did it sold? Oh, I just had it right there. Hold on, Give me a second right here. So this album, only a year and a month after its release, was certified double platform platinum. It's now triple platinum in 98. It has gone over and sold by at this point. I mean it's probably over six times platinum. It only sold 57000 units in its first week. What did this record we're talking about?

[A]

Unbelievable.

[B]

No, no, no, no, no. Ready to die.

[A]

Ready.

[B]

So it's the legacy that this is like. I mean, would you put this in the five greatest hip hop albums of all time?

[A]

Five greatest hip hop. Wow, that's tough.

[B]

Or most important.

[A]

I don't like that. Five. Five. No, one of most important.

[B]

Sure.

[A]

Def. Because you're talking about. Okay, greatest album. Well, there's Public Enemies. It takes a million of a nation to hold us back. That album is great. But that's before this one. You know, I think it's a time thing. That's one of the greatest. This is one of the greatest you're talking about. Tribe Called Quest has one of the greatest.

[B]

Theory. Yeah.

[A]

Low end theory. There's so many. That's bullshit. I don't like that top five shit. One of the greatest. I'm not number.

[B]

I think this is in the discussion.

[A]

You damn right it is.

[B]

Not just Greatest hip hop records, but I'd say greatest debuts. I say this, but I think one.

[A]

Of the greatest hip hop record. This album is dope.

[B]

I think this. And I know we were talking. I wasn't dissing illmatic when I said that. No, I know you weren't it. I love that record. But I honestly think that this is. There's a strong case that these things are like. It's like. It's like a photo finish and that's fine. It's not. And not to like put them on.

[A]

My thing is like.

[B]

And if you do, you do.

[A]

So it's all great and that numbering.

[B]

It's all. It's all.

[A]

But it's what you like.

[B]

It is what you.

[A]

Somebody wants to say, no, my thing is Keras 1 and I get it. Kiss 1. But that's other people's. I don't think by any means necessary. This is.

[B]

This is Krist One's great.

[A]

But that's great. And all those guys are great in full. This is what.

[B]

This is the continuation of what those saying. But hip hop, that's what's so cool.

[A]

More than any other great albums and different.

[B]

It's the way jazz I love. We brought up jazz earlier because you don't get the. You don't get the modal without going through bop and hard bop and this.

[A]

And it's all.

[B]

Without all that. That what's so cool about the idea of. Of. Of being an MC and rhyming is it's the one thing that it's like, man, without. Because I got into an argument with this kid. He was like, man. He's like, oh, the past is terrible. All the new shit's good. And I'm like, there's no new without the old.

[A]

What? What? Jackass.

[B]

I'm not. There's a whole another story and we got to wrap this up.

[A]

Okay, we'll talk more about the next.

[B]

Yes. But the moral of the story is this.

[A]

The old is whack, dude.

[B]

He tried to say. He goes, would you like. Would you like a brand new new Mercedes or an old Mercedes? And I go, if it was. If it was in perfect condition, it's one of the greatest cars ever made. I'll take the old one.

[A]

First of all, that's a terrible comparison. I know that because here's another thing. You know, old Mercedes still drive on the road.

[B]

How about that? Oh, dude.

[A]

And another thing too is I would love to go our rappers against your new rappers now and see how we turn out.

[B]

You get like, you got like Two dudes making music now, they're actually a. Tyler is doing something different.

[A]

That's great.

[B]

But he's, but he's doing. He's all in school. He's doing Outcast.

[A]

He's doing all this because it's good.

[B]

Exactly.

[A]

You're gonna compare Outcast to your bums.

[B]

Now, before we do my final finishing questions, what do you think if Biggie doesn't die? How do you think the career goes? Like, do you. I think, I know. This is like, they become legends, man.

[A]

They. I think the music goes amazing.

[B]

It's amazing if him and Tupac don't die. Do you think they're homies now at this point? Like, older?

[A]

There's like, they have like a dish discussion on a show where they're like, like when Jay Z and Nas sat down and said, yo, they had that beef when he did Ether, and they were like, yo, they squashed it on mtv. It would be the same one because like, yo, we're 45, 50 now, man.

[B]

We good. I think Biggie's. You see Biggie doing that commercial with Frank Reich and the, the base. Was it Frank Thomas? They're like, yeah, they're like, oh, that, the vitamin thing. Get your testosterone up. You go to get.

[A]

He's like this, yo, Tupac, did you hear about the new.

[B]

The Viagra pills? Yo, I'm telling you, I never heard breathing sleep apnea machines.

[A]

Like, I can't believe it. I think I kept believing I was soft last week, but now I'm hard again. You know, I can see all of that.

[B]

It's the same shit where it's like, look at Al Green. Al Green went from being one of the sexiest singers and he was all about fucking.

[A]

He's a sexy ass preacher.

[B]

Yeah, but he's a preacher and you find God.

[A]

I, I, Everybody changes.

[B]

Do you think, do you think Biggie would ever. Cause I don't think. I think Live after death or live after death. I, I think it's an okay record. I think it's. Use your illus illusion for hip hop where it's too many songs and if you cut it down to one record, it's the same with Wu Tang Forever. If you cut it down to one record. Yeah, it's a perfect album. And I think there's too much. I think this is a perfect record.

[A]

Yeah, I think there's no point.

[B]

I think there's.

[A]

You mean the album, Home album?

[B]

I think so.

[A]

I think there are no skips. They're all good.

[B]

Do you think, do you Think he makes another record like this? Do you think he has it in him?

[A]

Oh, yeah, sure. Oh, yeah, definitely. I think so. I think so. Yeah. It's unfortunate they were that talented that I think they would get off a lot of good records. Maybe there'll be one that goes in and out, but, like, you see someone like LL Cool J, who made an album with. With Q Tip, that one power that came out like a year and a half ago, I thought.

[B]

I thought. I thought LL lost it when he did.

[A]

Don't get your head, no, no, I.

[B]

Got that Punky, punky, Get your chunky punky tonky. I hated that. Know the words. That song was straight balls, dude.

[A]

Don't get your head. Lord of mercy. When it comes to Hurt Me, it's like.

[B]

It's like Will Smith doing boom, shake, shake, shake. Remember? Remember when MC Hammer. When did the. What was that song? The MC Hammer like? Oh, oh, oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. When he tried to go gangster.

[A]

Oh, pumps in the bump Pumps in the. In the pump I like the girls with the pups in the pump I gonna lie. That beat was. They used the Atomic Dog beat. That was hot. He had two versions. The one in his drawers and then the one he was fully clothed. And they had Deion Sanders at the beginning. Yo, but I ain't gonna lie. I was gonna say LL Cool J's power is so. It's really good. And it. It's. It has Eminem on it, which is phenomenal. It has Sza on it. It's really good. The songs aren't super, super long and 2. And Q tip produced it, and it's really artistic. I. That power. That was pretty good, man.

[B]

Okay. And then I got one last question. I love. I didn't see that the guy wrote this. Do you think. Do you think the reason, almost like Biggie, the mythology of the Persona is. Is interpreted because of him dying? Like, do you think it's. Do you think this record is that much more important?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Because he died.

[A]

Of course. Yeah. Of course. Course.

[B]

Of course.

[A]

Yes. Yep.

[B]

I think it's the same thing with Nirvana. Never mind.

[A]

Importance of Bruce Lee and those. And.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. What you have is what you have. James Dean has three movies. And we hold him up.

[A]

Oh, my God. And you look at.

[B]

And they're great. He never had a dud.

[A]

He never had his Joplin. You look at all those Joe Mojo. You look at Jim Morrison, like, the door. He died so young, you know, 27. All of 27. 33. Yeah. Of course it's because they're gone.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So posthumously you're like, you know. No, cuz we would if they live long we would have seen them have some whack like Ah damn. God damn. Oh damn. Oh why they here?

[B]

Even the that even the that was left over that that Puffy would put on his records of his rhymes. Maybe it was. It's all about the Benjamins. He had like a really good like set of bars like every that be was crazy. It just, it just sucks. It sucks that you know, I don't know if he has control over hopefully his. I think hopefully his mom was the one that actually had control and made the off the name and his kid and he had with.

[A]

They play that music all.

[B]

Yeah. All right, let's do the finals. Let's get you out of here, dude. And then we're gonna, we're gonna end this with the, with the that the rap because I got a cut.

[A]

All right.

[B]

Favorite song on this record. I think you already said.

[A]

Unbelievable.

[B]

All right, is there we said it's no skip, but is there anything that you you could be like?

[A]

Yeah, I can't really. I'm trying to think off head that I can skip.

[B]

I think besides the intro this is. I think it's a perfect. Even the little ones where he's. You're like to take that dick, girl.

[A]

All right, I'm about to come baby baby baby baby Grave a gravy. Oh no.

[B]

Sorry.

[A]

Go ahead.

[B]

Well, all right. Can you to this record?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Have you. I feel like you probably have.

[A]

I, I have. I don't think I have.

[B]

Yeah you did. Come on. Yeah you did.

[A]

I don't think so.

[B]

Yeah you did.

[A]

Give me the puss, give me the puss I'm a bad bad Give me the puss, give me the pussy. My bad.

[B]

Get my dick up dick up in your. I, I, I don't know if I to this but I, I don't. You know.

[A]

I think this is.

[B]

I'm going to say this. I think this is very much like when we had the lead singer Incubus on and we were talking about the Jeff Buckley record.

[A]

Yeah, Incubus.

[B]

He, he said something right. It's like this isn't just a regular hip hop record. This is so lyrical and the, and the lyrics are really the melody. The music is dope. His, his, the way his inflection. You can't not not pay attention about being one.

[A]

But it's like when it's nice when the bleats are sick and the lyrics Are sick. It all helps.

[B]

All right, what would be your elevator pitch to get somebody to listen to this record? How do you sum this record up to someone that's never heard it and say, hey, man, to listen to this? You don't have to like, really pitch, but just what would be.

[A]

Even if you don't like hip hop, this shit is unbelievable, period. Listen to it. I guarantee you, you will be into Biggie and you will be into real lyrical shit, real art, artistry. Listen to it, period.

[B]

All right, now I want you to do your. I want you to do your, your, your plugs, but I want you to do it in the melody of Plush by Stone Temple Pilots at God free Comic.

[A]

Godfrey Comic Go to God free Live to see my tour dates.

[B]

Hey, my neighbor do.

[A]

And the podcast, it's in God free we trust in the other room.

[B]

I love you. I mean I thank you for coming in and doing this at this time.

[A]

Can we do it 100?

[B]

Dude, I got more.

[A]

Awesome. Because I can just go straight to mine on Tuesdays.

[B]

You didn't have no audition. You just cutting it closer. You could all. You came in two dry. You came in too dry.

[A]

Forehead. No sweat. No a.

[B]

No audition sweat. You said between eight and nine. Eight or nine.

[A]

It was a self tape. But you know what? A self tape podcast starts at 10.

[B]

So you cut it close to 9.

[A]

Yo, I don't like the way you talk.

[B]

Hold up, hold up, hold up.

[A]

Why you sound like a why you sound like a 70s detective. So you close Clue tonight. That's how we found out the prince. You the murderer. Shut your mouth.

[B]

Shut your mouth.

[A]

Talk about Shaft.

[B]

We can dig it.

[A]

We can dig it.

[B]

I love you, buddy. Thank you for coming on, bud.

[A]

Peace.

[B]

What I tell you? What I tell you. The one and only Godfrey guys. Follow him on Instagram at Godfrey Comic. I'm assuming that's what he is on Tick tock too. He's killing it, dude. Subscribe to his YouTube, listen to his podcast. And Godfrey we trust on gas Digital. Big thanks to Ralph setting this up. AJ Working the board. Yeah. We love you guys. We anytime we're in New York, we need a studio we'll be using new place. I love it. All right, guys, for new music Distrokid, our proud sponsor is brought to you Stingray by CJ Fly. And you can find links to the music on our website, the 500 podcast Calm Guys, if you got music and you know somebody like, tell them to send it in, please. Like I really want to help launch artists. We have A decent, you know, listen, base, whatever the it's called, Send it in tomorrow though, which I gotta record, which I'm. I feel like I'm kind of prepared for it. I don't know. Next week is Bruce Springsteen with the Wild, the Innocent and the E Street Shuffle. I really like this record a lot from 1973. Do your homework, guys, and we'll see you soon.

[A]

Real ass give a about a if I whistled in this my bully what's a Pomeranian next to a pit and he used to r like me cuz still the flows who got him lit I left school cuz I ain't have it to stay up out of dead I was trying to pay attention said I can't afford this used to tell me why you drive a with up for your scholarship making every shot I take like I got a hot hand hot damn know you hear me coming like a dodge ram was I'm supposed to buy the app on the day got ban big account like drum line cuz the got ban and my homie keep a drink as you can say it's God's plan quick to spin your culture set like we was watching not slam next time you cooking the stew just make sure that it's not playing you can say a friendly competition we are not m you need to some of y' all season the moment it could been treason but your all's too short for all of the reaching shut the hell up I was going to cook you and tell you you were disgrace you really just believe in divine because you pray I told you I'm a shock and you fool know that stingray I can help you write your verses like Jay Z did on still Dre just watch me on no more time it's so clock cause that was midday keep talking about the money you made I'll make you pay could tell you like the horse in the ground when you said hey B I thought you was a G why you talking about young and may I wore to expose you but you've already did that you took your dick out in public they never pictured your flash public indecency now you showing your ass hella chopper with a pink skirt while you was throwing it back then you shot a video naked holding a shoddy you washed up should have known that you fold on this dirty laundry with the ink I murdered so all right pizza or gotti y' all whipping these asses my black building from karate if you did all that so with it's telling fame is a drug I saw you swat a fly in your vid now I'm here to bugs the boots you wore from gazy ass Butters they look like NS how you calling trusting you said that you went for P don't want to escalate things like when I'm driving the Cadillac they thought it be a challenge because he famous from battle rap I came for more than pharaohs that travel miles on a camel back Are you still in the now when I'm flowing just like the cataracts give on beast just like battle cat said I'm going hard while I'm getting stone like I added wax thought they had a pill but it's all just like some bladder whack need to fix up they out of whack always been a shot time cool as Wayne and his mad as Max Wouldn't put no bread on this beef and make it a philly cheese you the sweetest hood in BKM we call it Willie be keeping industry I won't know from Dick Mr. Willoughby when it comes to rapping got superhuman abilities came for hands like a guillotine been the nicest to stay our team ain't sweet like vanilla bean get you stretched like a limousine we'll cash in a Manila there's no man illa like Philippines a villain just like Shredder I rip you ninjas to smither greens the.

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