161 - Otis Redding - The Dock Of The Bay - Nick Thune

Summary

Podcast Summary: The 500 with Josh Adam Meyers

Episode: 161 - Otis Redding - The Dock Of The Bay
Guest: Nick Thune
Release Date: May 7, 2025
Host: Josh Adam Meyers
Produced by: Next Chapter Podcasts

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1. Episode Overview

In Episode 161 of The 500 with Josh Adam Meyers, host Josh Adam Meyers delves into Otis Redding's iconic song "Dock Of The Bay," exploring its place in Rolling Stone Magazine’s list of the 500 Greatest Albums of All Time. Joined by comedian and musician Nick Thune, the episode blends insightful analysis with personal anecdotes, offering listeners both historical context and contemporary reflections on Redding's enduring legacy.

2. Introduction

Josh opens the episode by expressing his excitement about featuring Otis Redding's music and introduces Nick Thune as the guest for the day.

Notable Quote:

Josh Adam Myers [02:49]: "I'm so happy you're here for Otis Redding. I... [laughs] you seem more like Sufjan Stevens or Gordon Lightfoot."

3. Exploring "Dock Of The Bay"

The core of the episode revolves around Otis Redding's "Dock Of The Bay," its creation, and its significance in Redding's career. Josh and Nick discuss the song's blend of soul and rock elements, its recording history, and its posthumous success.

Notable Quote:

Josh Adam Myers [13:01]: "This song is why we're talking about this record. Otis never actually heard the final mix of this song."

4. Personal Stories and Anecdotes

Nick Thune shares personal memories and stories related to Otis Redding, highlighting the profound impact Redding's music had on him. The conversation touches on live performances, the emotional depth of Redding's songs, and the challenges Redding faced in his career.

Notable Quote:

Nick Thune [08:50]: "The first time I heard 'Tramp,' I was just like, this is so crazy. And then 'Sitting on the Dock of the Bay' just changed me."

5. Musical Influences and Comparisons

The duo compares Otis Redding to other musical legends, discussing his unique vocal style and his ability to transcend genres. They explore how Redding's work has influenced contemporary artists and the lasting appeal of his music.

Notable Quote:

Josh Adam Myers [12:05]: "I put him in the same discussion as Robert Plant. He's a rock star, without a doubt."

6. Audience Engagement and Reflections

Josh and Nick reflect on their own performances and experiences as musicians, drawing parallels between Redding's live energy and their own stage presence. They emphasize the importance of authenticity and emotional connection in music.

Notable Quote:

Nick Thune [16:55]: "Otis Redding's voice is unmatched to this day. Nobody has ever had that."

7. Conclusion

As the episode wraps up, Josh and Nick reiterate the significance of "Dock Of The Bay" in Otis Redding's catalog. They encourage listeners to explore both the album and Redding's live performances to fully appreciate his artistry.

Notable Quote:

Josh Adam Myers [57:56]: "It's just exactly why I love Otis Redding. The energy, the soul, the rock and roll—he's hands down one of the greatest live performers in the history of music."

8. Highlights and Key Takeaways

• Otis Redding's Evolution: Discussion on Redding's desire to expand beyond the soul genre and his efforts to reach wider audiences.
• Impact of "Dock Of The Bay": Analysis of the song's composition, production challenges, and its posthumous success.
• Live Performances: Emphasis on the unmatched energy and emotional depth of Redding's live shows, citing recordings like Live at the Whiskey.
• Musical Legacy: Exploration of Redding's influence on modern artists and his place alongside other musical legends.
• Personal Connection: Nick Thune's heartfelt recounting of how Redding's music influenced his own artistic journey.

9. Recommended Listening

Listeners are encouraged to explore Otis Redding's Dock Of The Bay album and immerse themselves in his live performances to truly understand his impact on music history.

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Upcoming Episodes: Next week, the podcast will feature a deep dive into T. Rex's Electric Warrior, with special guests to provide unique insights.

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This summary encapsulates the key discussions, insights, and personal anecdotes shared in Episode 161 of The 500 with Josh Adam Meyers, providing listeners with a comprehensive overview of Otis Redding's enduring legacy through the lens of comedy and music.

Transcript

[Josh Adam Myers]

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[Morty Coyle]

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[Josh Adam Myers]

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[Morty Coyle]

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[Josh Adam Myers]

The dock of the bay that is sitting on the dock of the bay. It's by Otis redding from his 1968 record Dock of the Bay. The name of the song too. It's number 161 out of 500 on the 500 with Josh Adam Myers. What is up Fleece Army? Thank you for joining me on the only podcast where a comedian is going through Rolling Stone magazine's list of the 500 greatest albums. I'm doing good. I am sleeping the fuck in right now to catch up because I had been going so hard for the last few weeks and I mean I'm hitting like 2:30pm days. I was in San Jose, our super fan, Michael. We've name dropped him before. He's one of the die Hards, man.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

And.

[Josh Adam Myers]

And I thank you, buddy. Got to meet him. He said what's up? Sang throughout the whole show. He was. He was harmonizing like Crosby Stills in Nash, but ever. Thank you everybody that came out to the Comedy Store. Thank you everybody that came out to Rooster T. Feathers, Michael Lane. He's got a book about Lou Reed. We've mentioned him before. Maybe we'll find a way to link it so everybody can find it. But yeah, we were out in L. A. We did a bunch of podcasts last week, so we're kind of like getting ready to release them. You see some different studios. Like if you're watching this on YouTube, this one was recorded at the Comedy Store. We did the one with Luke, which I don't know if I should have say, but we're doing that one that was at Melrose and Morty joined me for that. But yeah, so we're trying to get more of the video. So subscribe to our YouTube. YouTube.com backslash the 500 podcast. Also YouTube.com backslash Josh Adamire 79 help support me. I'm not really posting right now. I'm kind of in and out of a depression and trying to figure out social media because I was just losing so many followers. Post the Jelly Roll tour, which is crazy because that was like two years ago, but it's. But I'm losing. I've lost, you know, 7,000 more followers than I've gained in the last two years. So it's just trying to figure that out, man. It's a. It's an odd, odd thing. But, yeah, you're gonna start getting more videos. We're really trying to make an attempt. I am on the road. You can see me. I'll be with Big J Okerson the 16th and the 17th. I'm just wanted to hang out with my buddy and I didn't have any shows that weekend, so I'm gonna go out to Cincinnati with Big J. He's one of the best, so come see him. And also I'll be at the Comedy Store May 18th and 19th, and then I will be at the port in Baltimore the end of the month doing two nights. Friday, Saturday, I think it's the 30th and the 31st, but it's that Friday and Saturday. So come out to Baltimore. We'll get crab cakes, we'll get pit beef. Lea dog will be there. It will be a trip. It's always My favorite to go back to where I lived. So get those tickets. Josh Adam Myers.com@josh adam Myers on all social media and the podcast. If you want to follow that at the 500 podcast. Oh, and Master Fleece Theater, it's me, Morty Coyle, and DJ Wayne Federman. I that up, but who cares? You know what I meant? We talk about all things, everything. I love doing it. So subscribe to the Patreon because you get the free show and you get to ask the guest questions. And, yeah, you help support this journey because we're getting so close. But it's like, money is always a tough thing. We have people to pay, and the ads are there, but they're also not. And they're kind of there. And it's like every week is different, you know, now that we're in the thick of the episodes, like, we really, really want to make sure that we have the most support and we can get the best guests. So we need Emily. Big shout out to Emily. We know we. She. We work her hard, and she's so great at it, so. All right, whatever, dude. So Nick Thuney. Nick Thune, coming off Otis writing this. This one. I'm not gonna lie to you guys. Like, I wasn't there that day. I was there, but I wasn't there. I'm just, you know, I need a sabbatical. We had done a bunch of episodes back to back to back. I didn't prepare for this one as much as I should. I thought my knowledge of Otis writing would get me through, but it didn't. And I didn't know how long we were doing. So we ended up doing, like, two hours. And I was like, fuck, dude. This should have been cut into one hour. I don't know how the editing process is going to be with Adam and Peter, but hopefully it still turns out a good one. I love Nick. I think he's great, so I can't thank him enough for coming on. All right, rate, review, and most Importantly, subscribe to the 500 listen free on all platforms or anywhere you get your pods. Follow me at Josh Adam Myers and also follow the podcast at the 500 podcast. Email the [e-mail] Follow the Facebook group run by Crazy Evan. And for all things 500, go to the website the 500podcast.com. All right, y'all, not left to say, but here we go with number 161 out of 500 with DOC of the Bay by Otis Redding. I'm so happy you're here. I'M just shocked that you're here for Otis Redding. I, I, you don't seem, you seem Sufian Stevens, you seem light guitar Gordon Lightfoot, you seem. Am I wrong or any of these?

[DJ Wayne Federman]

No, you're not wrong. No. But my, I have an affinity to Otis Redding especially well. So I guess just to kind of intro my like story with him is that I had, my parents became friends with people in our neighborhood, a couple that never had kids.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Your parents being friends with people. Okay.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

And they were turn out to be my godparents. Like, they were like, I was born, you know, and they were just like neighbors. But they were my godparents, Jim and Sandy. And they then got wealthy. Like they bought a Texaco in Portland, like a gas station. And next thing you know, they had a really nice house. And the house was like made. They basically made part of it for me and my siblings because we were like their kids. And so they made a playroom that had a pool table, a big screen TV before anyone had big screens. And a jukebox. And the jukebox was probably preloaded, I'm sure.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Yeah.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

But in it was an Otis Redding cd. And it wasn't this one. Although it was like a hits. It had respect. It had Tramp and it had Sitting on the dock of the Bay. It had the Glory of Love. And when I, the first time I heard Tramp, I was just like, I mean, it hit every thing for me. It hit a guy talking, it hit a guy singing, it hit some funny stuff. He's like listing off cars, like all these things. I was like, this is so crazy. And then sitting on the dock of the Bay, I remember just sitting there. It looks like nothing's gonna change. That part of changed me. It really, I heard every time I listened to that song. It took me to a place because my parents listened to like the Manhattan Transfer and me too. And like BB and Cece. I don't know. Just like I've seen Peter, Paul and.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Mary seven times live. Like, I. That's the kind of shit my parents Manhattan Trans. Oh my God, that, that's like you said that. And then just years of trauma just came at me.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

I mean, it was so wild, like, hilarious. But then this fit into that for me. This was like, oh, this is like the better version. This is great. Like, I didn't have Neil Young, I didn't have any of that stuff from my parents. But this hit me. And the Sitting on the dock of the bay, it's like there's a few songs that have ever existed that take you to a place. And that song is one of them. I mean, that song, the words, all of the things, but just the feeling. And now knowing the history, it's like, last thing you recorded really wasn't even. Like, he said, like, I'd love the Staple Singers to be on it, but then they weren't. And then he died. And then they, you know, like, then the guy, like, put it all together. It's like, you know, it was kind of like as I got older and learned these things and the death, too. I mean, anytime somebody is. Dies in an aviation situation, they're a legend.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Yeah.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

I mean, I'm. I grew up in the Labamba era. That movie was just like, oh, Richie Valens, like, all this stuff. And so. And then when I found out, I didn't even know Otis Redding had done that. Like, it was like, much later, you know.

[Josh Adam Myers]

But not only were you born in the. The La Bamba era, you were born in the Lombada era, too. I think we were alive during the, during that, that short section of, of the universe where the Lombada, the Forbidden Dance, had multiple movies made about it.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

People find something and they just go with it, you know? Yeah. Yeah, that was a real Lombada era.

[Josh Adam Myers]

That was a real. But, but La Bamba, there is something about the.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

I just thought about his brother the other day that was. Remember, his brother was like, a cartoonist that wanted to, like.

[Josh Adam Myers]

I don't remember. No, I, I. Dude, I, I've seen the movie, but not in many, many years.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

I saw it many a time.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Really? You love it?

[DJ Wayne Federman]

I loved it. I loved his singing. I mean, I was, I was so attached to singing as a kid. Just vocals and, And I mean, Otis Redding's voice is unmatched to this day. Nobody has ever had that. I mean, Al Green has something that was, like, unique and its own thing, but it's not Otis Redding.

[Josh Adam Myers]

I would never put. I wouldn't put Otis Redding in the same discussion as Al Green or Marvin Gaye. I put him in the same discussion as Robert Plant, and I put him. He's a rock star, without a doubt.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

Also, where he was, where he was like, in the Bay Area, like, you know, kind of. What's that, what's that big. That concert up there that he did?

[Josh Adam Myers]

Monterey Pop?

[DJ Wayne Federman]

Yes, yes.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Monterey. Is it Monterey Jazz or Monterey Pop? But that was.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

I think it's Monterey Pop.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Do you have, do you have. You have video on it, right?

[DJ Wayne Federman]

No, I saw some.

[Josh Adam Myers]

I can pull it up.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

There is some There's a whole documentary about it.

[Josh Adam Myers]

So here's. Let me see what we have about this record.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

So that's kind of my history was that and I. And when you have a jukebox and it's somewhere, you go into your. My godparents house. I go in and I go directly to that. And I pick the Otis Redding album. And that was it. That was all I would listen to.

[Josh Adam Myers]

So this is what I have about him. So for the song, it started In June of 67, after his triumph at the Monterey Pop Festival. Otis hit up Steve Cropper in November to excitedly alert him that he had written a hit. Remember that this was the year that Sergeant Peppers came out and Otis was listening to everything that was coming out at the time and immersing himself in the world of music outside of his scene. He had already. He could already play on the same bills as all of his rock, rock and roll and folk artists. But he was often treated like he got to show only one small facet of his capabilities. He was getting tired of being pigeonholed as a soul artist and wanted to reach new audiences. He knew he was capable of being a great pop singer songwriter beyond or despite the black music market. In fact, he was considering leaving Stack Records and moving to Atlantic, where he thought he would be more appreciated and allowed to expand his musical horizon and audience. Many people don't know that he would tune his old Red Damage acoustic guitar to an open E and compose his songs using simple block chords before he could usually bring them to Booker t and the MG's guitarist Steve Cropper, who also wrote and produced with Otis. But Otis had to put his relentless touring schedule and. And recording by the wayside to have surgery on the polyps on his vocal cords. That's what I just had. And the procedure was a success. And when he was given the okay, he had to. He had a creative rush which saw him write at least 20 new songs. According to Cropper, Otis. Otis's voice was back and better than ever. And with all these new songs, they both wanted to get back into the studio. They finished it together and recorded it by the end of November and the beginning of December, shortly before his tragic accident. The sound effects, which became such an integral part of the song, had been brought up. And Otis didn't love the idea at the time. In fact, many people at Stacks Records, as well as his wife Zelma, didn't think the song was soulful enough. And Tupac. It was released as a posthumous single in January and by March became the first Posthumous number one hit and his great classic crossover hit, Tragically, Otis never actually heard the final mix of this song. The song is why we're talking about this record. This. This record in this. I don't. This is one of my least favorite Otis Reddings. Like, I'm a huge Otis Redding fan. I've talked about this on the podcast before, but I think, you know, and I think probably all artists, we. There are people from our lives that we've seen, and we're always kind of just taking little pieces. Right. Scott Weiland, that's like, I steal so much from him, and Otis Redding is the other guy. The energy that he had. And I don't. That's why I don't like this record more than, like. Like, I always feel like Otis Redding is kind of like the Grateful Dead, where you're like, the albums are good, but it's. The live versions of the songs is why we love the band.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

Yeah.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Do you know what I mean? Have you ever there. There's a triple album, Otis Redding Live at the Whiskey. Have you heard that?

[DJ Wayne Federman]

No.

[Josh Adam Myers]

I'm gonna send that to you. I've talked about this over and over, because people always, like, what concerts? If you go to any concert in the history of music, like. Like, what would you go to? That's in my top five. Because he. He wanted to show white audiences that he could, like, who he was, who he could bring, and so he rented out the venue, had to pay for himself, and put on these three nights. And it's just every. He doesn't do Dock of the Bay, obviously, but it's just. It's just the. The most. The. You. It's the energy in the room. You can feel the. You can feel it through the recording, which is so odd. I don't know if there's ever been a live record that I feel. It's always like. You're like, yeah, that captures it, but it's. It's hands down. You know what the first time I heard that is? It made me this incredible Otis writing fan. And from hearing that, I've just gone in and just list record and so on.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

It's crazy when there's a song that you can never find a live version of. Yeah, this is one of them.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Oh, well, it's. I mean, he wrote it and then he died.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

Yeah. I mean, well, Warren Zevon is the same way. Like that last album he wrote on his deathbed.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Yeah.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

There's, like a song on that that I can't even think of the name of. It Right now, but it's like, you can't. He never did it live. He did maybe one of the songs in that album live on Letterman, and that was it. And I heard. I don't know if you know a lot about Warren Zevon, but I don't.

[Josh Adam Myers]

But we got him into the Rock and Roll hall of Fame.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

Yeah.

[Josh Adam Myers]

He just got in. He didn't get voted in, but they finally. The guy that I wrote the show, write the show with, he is friends with Warren's son. And it's just every. Because I vote on the Rock and Roll hall of Fame.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

Oh, nice.

[Josh Adam Myers]

So. So every year he's like, gets mad at me that I don't put him in. And it's one of those reasons that I'm like, well, I don't. I don't know his music like that. But that's what's wrong with the Rock and Roll hall of Fame is that there's so many artists that should be in.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

Yeah.

[Josh Adam Myers]

You know, and especially it shouldn't be called the Rock and Roll hall of Fame. It should be called the Popular Music hall of Fame because, like, outkast just got in and, like, Mariah Carey and Are they rock stars? No. But, you know, that's what they need to do. They're going to change it. So.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

Yeah. I mean, Mariah, you know, as far as Christmas album goes, Mariah is a rock star to me.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Might be the best.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

Yeah.

[Josh Adam Myers]

The Neil diamond one might be better.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

Have you heard it of her song?

[Josh Adam Myers]

No. This is the Neil Diamond.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

All I want for Christmas.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Did you hear there's a really good Barry Manilow covered All I want for Christmas is you. We just took mushrooms and went to see Barry Manilow.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

Oh, that'd be great. In Vegas.

[Josh Adam Myers]

No, we saw him at Radio City. It freaked me out, dude. Scariest concert I've ever been. I mean, we met him afterwards, and it looked like half of his jaw was missing. It was. It was crazy, dude.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

Like John Prine. Kind of like, you remember how, like, John Prine, like, in the end, like, his jaw was all kind of messed up. Or were you just on mushrooms and it looked that way?

[Josh Adam Myers]

A little bit of both.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

Okay.

[Josh Adam Myers]

But. But we took a picture together. I wonder if you could pull it up. It's on my Instagram. No, it's not. It's not on my Instagram because I haven't posted it yet. It wasn't a story. It was. He's had so much work done that his filler had filler. You know, it was like. And then You're. Yes, the drugs. So we're looking at him. You're like, oh, like, yeah, I'm just tripping balls. He doesn't really look that weird. And then after the show, when the drugs started winding down, we went to meet him and it just, it looked like a shotgun blast had taken out half of his jaw. Prime. Prime was the same way. Prime's another guy that I got into from this podcast. I had no idea how great he was. That's the music I would have thought you would have been.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

Oh, yeah. I mean, I'm obsessed with John Prine.

[Josh Adam Myers]

That makes sense.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

But Otis Redding is the closest version you know of. Like, I mean, I'm obsessed with a lot of music, but Otis Redding is a rock star. You know, like that's he in the ends and like John Prine is a, A rock star in his own way. And like this like guy that just writes a song that you're like, how he wrote a song about what? And it's that good and it, you know, like, it's beautiful. But yeah, Otis Redding's. I guess it really comes to his voice that Janis Joplin sort of like, you know, like screaming. But that's beautiful in a way that really. I know that like John, John Lennon did that a lot in that whatever album then he kind of screwed his voice up with. What album was that where he did so much screaming?

[Josh Adam Myers]

I don't know about that.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

Yeah, he, like, I forget who was producing it. Somebody was pretty. Oh. Oh. When he was producing Harry Nielsen's album, he basically ran Nielsen's voice out by making him scream. And that was kind of like the thing that, that Lennon was doing at the same time as well was like this screaming thing.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Have you ever like, because you, you don't really sing in your act, you just play the guitar. Do you do stuff to protect your voice?

[DJ Wayne Federman]

No.

[Josh Adam Myers]

You just let it live.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

Yeah, I mean, I, I, my. The only type of singing that I can do is so unique to me that it wouldn't help to make my voice good or save my voice. Yeah, that I do. I mean, I have released a couple songs now that are like actually just songs.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Really.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

Yeah, I just released one another one a couple weeks ago that are on Spotify. But yeah, they're just like actual songs that I wrote and my, my buddies produced.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Do you want us to play it at the end of the episode? Because play like new music. Yeah, we've die hard fans, dude. They're all 50 year olds in a basement. But you know, I would Love it.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

I would love it.

[Josh Adam Myers]

We'll hook you up, dude. We will hook you up. So you. You mentioned Doc of the Bay, like, being like, one of the iconic songs. Like what? Like what. What would be the Mount Rushmore? Like what? Like, do you feel that, like. Like Doc in the Bay is up there with like a Stairway to Heaven or.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

Stairway to Heaven isn't even one of those songs for me.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Really?

[DJ Wayne Federman]

Yeah, no. Doc of the Bay, there's certain songs like. Do you know the song Holly Holy? Holly Holy is by Neil Diamond? Did a version of it, but it's also by some. Something junior in the All Stars. And it's. To me, there's like, there's few songs. There's. It's. Yeah, not the. Not the Neil diamond version. Two All Stars, maybe that just type that in. All Stars, Yeah. J Junior Walker and the All Stars. It's this song that. This song. Every Piece of My Heart by Irma Franklin. Not Janis Joplin, but Irma Franklin, which is the Aretha's sister. The original version of Every Piece of My Heart. Like, these are songs to me that are like. They hit a. A note that is unmatchable. And it's. And they're like. It's like wearing a classic suit. Yeah, you can't. Anybody will like these songs. Anybody in any genre would hear this and think, yeah, play a little bit.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Of it so I can. So I can get a little scoodle of it.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

Here. I'll show you where it comes in up here.

[Morty Coyle]

What I believe in. Yeah. Yeah.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Hallelujah.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

Yeah. So it's just. I don't know, I guess these are songs that I like. These are songs I've come out. I've come out on a stage on. Sitting on the dock of the Bay. Really a lot. Yeah. And then this song I used to have play the last song before I went, before the show started, this was like, on my playlist. And then the Irma Franklin song is now the song I. I come up to on stage.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Yeah. You know, I. I appreciate how great this song is, and I love this song, but it's like when I listen to the rest of this record as a whole, it. Just knowing what I know about the history of it, it was just like, it. It wasn't the album that he wanted to put out. Obviously. This is just a cash grab. You know, it's. It's. It doesn't take away from the song. The song is, Is. Is iconic. It's. It's. It's beautiful, but it's Just. I hate that that's the song that he's almost remembered by. Like, when you think about his writing, most people would think of this, and it's just like, I just. So much other great music out there that he did, and it just bums me out because, you know, most people disassociate him with this song.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

Did he write Respect?

[Josh Adam Myers]

No. But I found. Keep. Hold on, let me double check that before I say no to that. I did find out these interesting facts on him. Where was it? The version of. Where is it? Here it is. The version of Sav. You heard his version of Satisfaction.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

Yeah.

[Josh Adam Myers]

So his version of Satisfaction was more or less the way that Keith Richards wanted the Rolling Stone song to be. So him doing it in that, like, sped up version of it, I can get.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

Yeah. So good.

[Josh Adam Myers]

It's so good. I found a bunch of interesting things about him. When he and his band played the Apollo Theater in 1963, they had to pay more to provide copies of sheet music to the house band than they actually made from playing the gig. Which one of me got me to ask you, what's the worst gig that you can remember doing? Like, what is your. Like, what's a gig from hell that you did?

[DJ Wayne Federman]

San Francisco, the Onion had me play for their, like, anniversary party.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Yeah.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

And it was in, like, the meat packing district in, like, a weird warehouse. And the band Deerhoof was the headliner. Who's Deerhoof is some art rock. They're great. I mean, they've got cool. Yeah, yeah. It's like some art rock band.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Okay.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

And it was like they'd had all these burlesque dancers as the waitresses. Like, it wasn't. It was a weird vibe. And two people saw me do the set. Moshe Kasher, Brent Weinbach.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Okay.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

Happened to be there. We had just met, and they were like, oh, come to this weird show you're doing. So doing the show, and I'm just getting booed. Like, people.

[Josh Adam Myers]

You're getting booed?

[DJ Wayne Federman]

Oh, yeah. It's beyond deer off. They're yelling. They want deer hoofs.

[Josh Adam Myers]

There's nothing worse than going up in front of like. Like, a band. Like, I. I did it for Jelly Roll, but I had at least my band so I can incorporate the music. But it's like, if that would have gone up there, just done stand up, I mean, that would have been horrible.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

Well, yeah, it depends on what the. The band's audience is and if the band has said, hey, we. We like this person. We want you to like them.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Yeah.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

Deerhoof had nothing to do with me. They didn't know me, and these people didn't like me. And I mean, this will sound not real, but I have two people that witnessed it that can really tell you that it happened. Is in the midst of my performance, I, at one point, was interviewing somebody in the crowd, being like, when you said go yourself, like, what did you mean?

[Josh Adam Myers]

Yeah.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

You know, And. And in the midst of that, one of the waitresses and burlesque dancer comes up on stage, and she's just, like, kind of mesmerizing me. Like, she's walking towards me, like. And as I'm looking at her, I don't realize that another woman grabs me from behind, grabs my arms, pulled back, so he's like, holding my arms back from behind. So the microphone is just right here.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Yeah.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

And then the woman on the ground gets down on her knees and starts blowing the microphone that I'm holding right here, and I'm being held from behind. And then the girl from behind, instead of from holding me, she goes to jumping up onto my shoulders. Like, now I'm like, piggyback ride sort of a situation until I finally collapse onto the ground. And now all of the dancers are on stage. And the DJ cues up. Everybody was kung fu fighting.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Nice.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

Great song happening. While I'm on stage entangled with these women. And one of them. I'm at the bottom of the circle, bottom of this pile, and this woman looks at me and she goes, are you gay? And I said, no. And then she slapped me across the face. And then it just kind of ended. And I got off stage and I got my. And I walked out the back door. Never got paid. Never talked to the guy that booked me.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Oh, dude.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

Just gone in the wind.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Have you ever. Do you do corporate gigs?

[DJ Wayne Federman]

Yeah.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Do you like them?

[DJ Wayne Federman]

They're not. It depends. Yeah, it depends. I've had some rough ones.

[Josh Adam Myers]

What's the. What's. You have to name the company. But what's the. Because I. I've done corporate gigs where I was supposed to get paid X. And then I bombed so hard that they reduced the money down.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

Oh, yeah, it was great. I did a. I did a cement company this last year that was very Christian.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Okay.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

And it went fine. And in the end, I was just reading the room. Like, people in there, they weren't drinking. There was nothing. Like, nothing that would make a holiday party with your co workers more awkward.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Yeah.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

That. I was just like, hey, let's do the raffle. Like, in the middle of my Act. I just was like, I'm just going to pull an audible here and just do the raffle.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Oh, my God. But you can. But the thing is like, you know, not saying you're made for a corporate gig at all. Nobody's made for that. But I mean, you're not telling edgy jokes. You're not, you're not cussing you hope you. You work with Nate so obviously, like I always ask like, like the guys that open is like. Like you've never been on stage and just actually been like, oh, shit. Like, it's never.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

I did.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Did you?

[DJ Wayne Federman]

At the Greek.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Really?

[DJ Wayne Federman]

I said. And admit it, I. I got off stage because it was. It was like totally by accident and it was so hot. It was like 100 some degree day. We're at the Greek. The lights are just ridiculous. I. And the nerves, you know, it's not like you're playing some theater in Wichita. You're playing in Los Angeles, California, at the.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Yeah.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

It's like people still come up to me that were at that show and it was so hot. And I said, like, it's so fucking hot. And then I was like, oh, my God. I ran off. I got off stage, immediately found Nate. Like, I went right to him.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Yeah.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

And I was like, hey, man, you're going to hear about it from everyone else. I said, fuck on stage. How'd you say it? And I'm like, well, I said this. He's like, oh, it's fine.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Yeah. If it slips out naturally. It's not like you're saying it in the bit.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

And the thing is, is I respect why I respect his whole thing so much because I. I like, I don't want to. I like not swearing. It's actually fun now that I can. I can do a full hour and not say a swear word. And you find like, I'll have jokes that I've used it in and I get there and I think, oh, I want to use it. And then I don't. And it gets a laugh and it's the same and it's like, oh, it felt good to not use it.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Sure.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

But I don't. It's not. I don't. I'm not against it. I'm not against people using it. And I enjoy a lot of stand up that does use it. But yeah, I. When it's not your audience and you want to respect the person that is giving you that opportunity. Because Nate has given me so many amazing.

[Josh Adam Myers]

The best. He's the best. I love him to death.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

Yeah.

[Josh Adam Myers]

And this Is so off topic, but it just made me think of something, so I don't want to tell my story about it, but who's. You said you did the show at the Greek, and I don't think. You didn't say you bombed by any means, but who's the most famous person you've bombed in front of? I invited somebody. The guy. I'll do mine just to give you the idea of what it is. My Chemical Romance is like, a fan of my shit. And so Frankie from the band reached out and he was like. He was like, dude, if you ever want to come to a show, like, I got you. We were playing in Jersey. I know you live in New York. He got me tickets to the Jersey show at the Prudential Center. It was amazing. And two or three months later, I'm opening for Bill there, and so I invite him and his wife, and, like. It's just rough, dude. It was rough, man. I didn't bomb, but it was rough.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

Yeah.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Because you know what it's like to not get the laughs in, like, an arena or not. Not get the last. I don't want to say that you bombed in an arena, but you've played arena, so you know what that feeling is like, what? It's like. You know what a big laugh feels like, and then what? Like, okay, this isn't getting what it deserves, you know, or what.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

Yeah. And it's. And it's really like, how do melt down? Like, you would want to if you were on stage at the store somewhere where you're like, oh, I can address this. When you're opening for somebody, you can't address it. In fact, you need to power through it and fix it.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Yeah, yeah.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

And. And I haven't really had too many bad experiences like that, but I have. I mean, I guarantee you. Like, I remember Seth Green once was at a show that I was like. He was just in the audience at. What was the bar? It was an old. The M Bar was the name of the place. You remember the M Bar?

[Josh Adam Myers]

Oh, yeah.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

But I've had some weird celebrities in the audience at, like, random shows. Like, I did a show in. In Minneapolis, and they came back. They're like, macaulay Culkin's in the audience.

[Josh Adam Myers]

That's pretty dope's cool.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

This. But this was like. This was like, Macaulay, like, long hair. I think he might have been, like, dating Mila Kun. It's like, it was that far back. Yeah, yeah. Or like, one time I went on stage and in Bloomington, Indiana, and Jesse Eisenberg was sitting in the front row.

[Josh Adam Myers]

In the front row, yeah. Did you address it?

[DJ Wayne Federman]

No.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Damn, dude.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

No, I. I wanted him to like it as much as possible, and I knew that it wasn't like I. That me addressing it and it failing was probably a 75 chance. There was, like, a 25 area there where I could have nailed it.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Yeah.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

But at that point in my career, I wasn't. I couldn't just fix everything.

[Josh Adam Myers]

The best is when you finish the show and then you find out that famous people were there.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

Oh, yeah.

[Josh Adam Myers]

And you don't see.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

Don't know that that happened with Hillary Swank.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Did it really?

[DJ Wayne Federman]

Yeah.

[Josh Adam Myers]

I met her at an airport once, and it's. She's. She's the best. I mean, that little interaction I had with her was, like. Was great because nobody's in a good mood at the airport. Very underrated actress. Even though she's won two Oscars, it's like, she. You don't. She's not in the discussion of, like, the Meryl Streep. Her and, like, Adrien Brody. Like, two actors and actresses that, you know, somehow have two Oscars each and yet that no one really knows who the they are.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

Yeah, it's pet.

[Josh Adam Myers]

My dog.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

Dog wants it. The what? No, though, also, I was gonna say. Oh, Clayton Kershaw was recently. Do you know who that is?

[Josh Adam Myers]

Yeah. You're a big Dodgers fan, too.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

Yeah, he. Him. To Nate's show in Vegas, and he came backstage afterwards, and it. I mean, it. It threw me. There's something about professional athletes that hit me harder than any other.

[Josh Adam Myers]

I'm this. I'm that way with rock stars.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

Yeah, rock stars.

[Josh Adam Myers]

I get starstruck. Like, sports figures. And depending who they are, if they're from, like, one of my teams, and I love them. Like, if I met Gilbert Arenas, I'd be starstruck, which is so random because he's not even that, like, important to most people. But to me, it was, like, the joy that he brought me through, like, three years of him being the best guard in the NBA was phenom.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

See, I can understand a rock star. I can understand the. The poetic kind of, like, thing with an athlete. I can't understand it. I'm baffled. And they're probably not even like. Like, talking to a rock star is probably harder than talking to an athlete. But for some reason, athletes just kind of make me, you know, sure. Like, whatever.

[Josh Adam Myers]

So I was. I mentioned earlier about, like, people that we take from, and so I steal a lot from Otis writing. I mean, I know he has the clip of him performing live, like the way that he would do Try a Little Tenderness. Have you seen live versions of that?

[DJ Wayne Federman]

Yeah.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Where at the end he just keeps going and coming back out and the energy, like, who are the artists that you've taken from.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

Toto? I'm serious. I listened to toe. I just did the Tonight show not too long ago and it, and I did the same thing. I have, I have multiple pictures of me in green rooms of late night shows holding up my phone with Rosanna by Toto playing.

[Josh Adam Myers]

You love Toto.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

I just love that. I mean, I. Great. Toto's great. But that song is epic. That song has like, it has like eight, you know, like, it's got all these hits and all this stuff, but really all it does is it just lets me know, like, you can have fun, like go out there and have fun. Like you're playing Rosanna. You know what I mean? Like, smile at it. Be relaxed, Rosanna. And so I do that. I, I, I mean, I guess a lot of the people, like, I mean, I hate to say Bob Dylan just because he's so in the zeitgeist now. And I, I hate that all these people know so much about him now and they didn't earn it. Like, I earned everything I know about Bob Dylan from books, from hearing stories, from like collecting information and, and, and then everyone just got all this information because they watched one movie with Timothee Chalamet, which is fine. It's great. That's the way it goes.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Did you like the movie?

[DJ Wayne Federman]

Sure. Yeah. I didn't, I'm not a hater in any sense of like, oh, I'm a Bob Dylan fan. It didn't hit, it wasn't, you know, like, he did a great job. The movie was good. It was fun to watch. It wasn't like walk hard I think is a better, you know.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Sure.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

I think also the story is better for a movie. Like the Bob Dylan story isn't as poetic as the Johnny Cash story of a guy that like got remarried, fell in love. Like, we don't know who Bob Dylan loves. Like, we don't want to know. We don't want to know any of that shit. Yeah, All I want to know is the, what did he, like, what was his artistic integrity and how did he keep it and how long did you know? Like, those are the things you want to know with him. Yeah, but, and Johnny Cash, I mean, Johnny Cash hosted the ABC show. But I do take a lot from someone like Johnny Cash or People like that, too. Where. I mean, a musical performance. The what? A lot of people don't. You know, dynamics in music are just so brilliant and so grabbing. And when you see somebody do it, right. When you see somebody play the guitar and then they play it with dynamics.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Yeah.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

They play it in a way that makes you like, did they know that? I almost couldn't hear that part.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

You know, sure. When. Because when you are. When you're an amateur playing something, you're like, I gotta play loud so they can hear the whole thing, where it's like, I want to almost not hear a part. I want to lean in. And when. When musicians make me want to lean in, I'm like, I want to do that in my comedy. I want to, like, go up there and build and pull back and, you know.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Who do you think should play Otis Redding if they did a movie about him? Who?

[DJ Wayne Federman]

Gerard Carmichael.

[Josh Adam Myers]

That's funny. They should make a movie about Otis writing. It's like, the way. The way that they're doing, you know, they like Bob Dylan. I love that you said that. It's like, yes, the movie is. Is entertaining and it's great. But there's something about Bob Dylan that. That's still, like, the reason he's. He's. Because I'm. I'm only became a Bob Dylan fan recently because, like I said many times on this podcast, we've done Bob Dylan the wrong way. Like, no one should do it the way that we did it on this podcast, which is start with his later record and then go back. Like, you have to appreciate the older stuff to then really understand. Like a time like Time out of Mind or Love and Theft. Like, you have to listen to old Bob Dylan.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

I mean, it's a different artist, you know, like, and there's just the. I love all the eras. I mean, there's certain albums that you. You know, what's his name? God. The album. The album. The Joker man album that has the guitarist from. God. What? Dire Straits.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Okay.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

Right. Is that the guy.

[Josh Adam Myers]

I don't know.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

Who's a guitarist from Dire Straits, you know, Gerard Carmichael. Yeah. No, but that, like, that album of Bob Dylan's is like. It's. Anyway. I mean, is it Dire Straits? Maybe not. Sultan's a Swing. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Mark Knopper. Yeah.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Oh, Mark Knopfler.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

Yeah. He, like. Basically, he, like, produced and played guitar and. And in this. In the Joker man album, the Bob Dylan. I don't even know what the name of that album is. Maybe it's Joker man. But that's like a whole different artist that album compared to Blood on the Tracks or some. But anyway, hey everybody.

[Josh Adam Myers]

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[DJ Wayne Federman]

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[Josh Adam Myers]

We help you Save. Valid through 5, 7. Selection varies by location while supplies last. Discount taken at time of purchase. So we did it wrong. On this podcast, I have yet to see the movie, but through what I've learned about him, because we finally started to get into, like, the older records, and it's like, I, I'm really starting to be like, oh, like, like, I get it now. And Bob Dylan, there's kind of like a mystery, and I think that's kind of why people love not just him being a brilliant songwriter and like, a voice of a generation, but there is something cool about, you know, he is up there with the Beatles and the Rolling Stones, but there's still, like, you know, so much about John Lennon and so much about Paul McCartney and so much about the Rolling Stones. But with Bob, it's like he doesn't do a lot of interviews. He's very secretive, and I think that's what's kind of cool about him.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

And I know some Bob Dylan stories that I've heard because, like, a lot of, you know, when you talk to musicians, like, especially, like, folk artists and stuff, like, there are these stories that go around that you're like, oh, have you heard the one about the itunes thing with him? And, like, this and that, and it's like, you know, like, or when he walked in when Jacob Dylan was recording the Wallflowers album and he, like, listened to it, and first thing he said when he took the headphones off was, sounds expensive. That's his son. Yeah, that's his son's album that he just heard. Yeah, Sounds expensive.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Is your son into music? Is he. You really like?

[DJ Wayne Federman]

Yeah, he wants to go see Tyler the creator.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Damn. I, I, I, I'm not, not into Tyler the creator. I just don't, I haven't really started digging into him, but his name keeps coming up as of recently with different people that I like that know music, and they keep bringing him up, which is a sign that I need to start digging into him. That's, he's like the, somebody had said he's like the prince of our, the younger generation.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

Do you agree with that or no? I, I, I've been listening to it a lot now in my car because I want, I want to, like, listen to what my son likes, not force what I want. Sure. Which I used to do when he was younger and he had no control.

[Josh Adam Myers]

What did you, what did you force onto him? Like, what was the art? Has it been, like, Dylan and.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

Yeah.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Otis Redding? Yeah, I mean, he.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

He drew me a. Of a birthday card that I have on my fridge. It might have been like two birthdays ago is a photo. I have a shirt with Bob Dylan with says Bob Dylan. And it just has his face and it's a really cool, like, weird bootleg shirt shirt. And he drew a picture of me and then with the Bob Dylan shirt on and drew an arrow to it and wrote Bob Dylan. And like, he know like his kind of like he was 8 when he did that or something, you know, like, so an 8 year old knowing like, oh, this is what my dad likes. This is what he plays for me. That's cool. But yeah, all of that stuff and trying to play him the Beatles and trying to play him stuff where it's like, this is cool, right?

[Josh Adam Myers]

Yeah.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

But we went to an art show a couple weeks ago and they had like a chain link fence that you were supposed to write on a piece of tape. Like, like a dream that you have or something that you want. Like. And to me, I wrote World Peace just because it was like, that felt like what this was for sure, you know, like, everyone's putting a hope up.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

And I like, looked where my son put his piece of tape on this chain link fence. And I like. He walked away and I, like, ran over and looked at it and it said, go to a Tyler the Creator concert. And I was like, all right. And I love that he loves music. I. I gave him my Spotify account so there's no ads. And like, he like, listens to music now, which is so cool.

[Josh Adam Myers]

How old is he?

[DJ Wayne Federman]

11.

[Josh Adam Myers]

It's a good age.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

It's the right age to start doing it.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Oh, yeah, yeah. Give him Otis writing. Give him the grades. Give him. Who else? Give him Toto.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

Because, I mean, I mean, I play that stuff where I'm like, listen to this. You know, but it's so funny, you know, it's like that, that. It's like that. The image of like a guy trying to make a girl watch a YouTube video, you know, it's like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. The ultimate, like, hacky thing. But I love presenting music to people. I mean, there's a guy that I just found that I had. I put on a show just so that I could watch this guy perform live. I found a guy randomly in a Instagram story. I saw five seconds of him performing and I thought, that is insane. Found it through different things that night. Followed him on Instagram, watched everything that was available. Hasn't even released a full Album yet. Watched everything.

[Josh Adam Myers]

You're not doing this as, like, a joke?

[DJ Wayne Federman]

No.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Okay.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

Loved it. Then followed me back on Instagram, was like, dude, I'm a fan. And I was like, I am a fan. And then I was like, are you in la? And he's like, yeah. And I go, how about, would you want to do a show at Elysian Theater? And he's like, yeah, yeah. So I basically booked a show. I called the Elysian. I was like, hey, I want to do a show where I have musicians on it. Like, okay, sure. So I booked a show just so I could watch this guy perform. This show, like, sold out. John C. Reilly in the third row watching. Had amazing. Chelsea Peretti.

[Josh Adam Myers]

How long ago is this?

[DJ Wayne Federman]

Two weeks ago.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Oh, wow.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

And, like, had the whole lineup. Wit Wit played. And then at the end of it, I introduced him. I said, I booked this show to see this next guy perform. Like, I want you to see this guy. This is why we're here. He got a fucking standing ovation. Not like a. Oh, like, he blew the room.

[Josh Adam Myers]

This is just a singer, songwriter.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

Just a dude. Yeah. His name's Tyler Ballgame.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Okay. I feel like I've heard that name.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

He's new. It's. He has. He's got an album. He just got a label. Like, he just got on a label. Like, he's gonna. It's coming out in January next year.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Okay.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

But I mean, man, that. So that week when I did the Tonight show not too long ago, that was the week I found him. I was in New York, like, up late, my hotel, and he sent me his album. That's unreleased. Like, that night and the whole day leading up to the Tonight Show, I just listened to this album, and it put me in this mood of, like, Tyler Ball Game. Yeah. Yeah.

[Josh Adam Myers]

We're gonna play his music at the end. Actually, I'm not playing your song anymore. I'm gonna play Tyler Ballgame.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

That's great. He. He just so you know, too. He. Yeah, pull him up.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Let's pull up some Tyler.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

This is the thing is that the way he looks is the most unassuming thing.

[Josh Adam Myers]

He looks like the guy that killed John Lennon.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

Here. Go to YouTube. Let's just watch a clip really fast. I want you to see this. Go to YouTube. Not that. No.

[Josh Adam Myers]

All right, ladies and gentlemen, this is Tyler Ball Game.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

This guy.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Yeah, you. Otis Redding. This is Tyler Ball Games episode.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

Dude, I bet. I bet Otis Redding is all over. Okay, go down, go down. Let's see. Help me out live at the Fable. Just watch Him. His mom is an opera singer.

[Josh Adam Myers]

I like his vibe. And 1. I love that they're capturing the. The vibe of the room. Scroll down and see how many views this has.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

1600. Good. I mean, dude, I. I keep playing.

[Josh Adam Myers]

It for a little bit. Hold on. The. This does have, like, an Otis Redding kind of feel to it. I would have never expected him to look this way when that picture and for this music to be coming out. Yeah, this is great, dude.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

I mean, Ray Orbison, Roy Orson. Ray, Orson, Ray and Roy. Yeah, but I mean, that's the thing is that I introduced him with in that crowd and I said all that stuff. Like, this is why he started the show. He walks out, people are like, what are we about to see? And his mom is. Sings in the Rhode Island Philharmonic. Okay.

[Josh Adam Myers]

He is.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

He's. He's. He's an opera.

[Josh Adam Myers]

He's got music in his. In his family. Yeah, but I wasn't expecting this kind of performance from him with the. The gyrations.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

Oh, dude. The hands and the.

[Josh Adam Myers]

And so he. You did the show. The crowd went. Most people, they were there for the comedy. I'm assuming they were there.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

They had no idea that this guy was gonna headline the show. Standing ovation. I mean, not the kind that was like one person. Something like, oh, right. Like the room shot up.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Oh, that's awesome.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

Show at the Elian Theater. He did four.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Four songs. I love finding an artist like that. That there's. Because Spotify knows They. They know what I like. And if you let them kind of like, you know, pick the music for you, they pulled that. I'm like, holy. They like. There's. There's a couple. Oh, God damn it. Let me see if I can pull it up.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

What. I'll tell you what made me fall even more in love with him was before I. Before I introduced him on stage, we were backstage and I said, why ball Game? And he said, oh, because Ted. Ted Williams was called Teddy Ball Game. And. And when I. Somebody asked me what the name of my band was, I was living in my mom's basement, and I thought it was really funny for me to call myself Tyler Ball Game. Really?

[Josh Adam Myers]

That's great. That's a great name. Yeah, I was. Spotify Will. Will find music for me. There's. I hate promoting them because they kind of me over. But outside of Cool by the band the Cliffs, or it's not even. It's just Cliffs. This. Like this. This has no views whatsoever. Looking at the. The artist, like, monthly. I mean, there's 14, 000 monthly listeners. And I. And I would say that in the song that I love has got like 300, 140,000 listens, and I probably done at least 50,000 of those.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

Oh, yeah.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Very much like this. And I've. I've helped them. I promoted them on the podcast. So, yeah, dude, send us, you know, more stuff. Tyler Ball Game. And I will promote the out of this because this is great and I love it. It's like, I know that we're. We're talking about a different artist, but he still sounds like there is the influence of Otis Redding kind of in this dude.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

And when you The. Some of the songs, when he. His voice gets to that gravelly spot where it's like. Like beauty coming through this roughness, you know, it's pretty. Pretty amazing.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Well, I expect, you know, the same thing with Otis, where it's like, you hear him singing and you hear the song Dock of the Bay, and you hear that. That very controlled. You know, that's what I love about some of the soul singers that we've done. On the podcast. We did Sam Cooke, where Sam Cooke, on the surface is just, you know, I don't want to say, like, whitewashed at all, but, like, a lot of the songs is so white America can accept him, because at that time, to have a. Like, a real soul singer, like, you know, they'd be afraid of that. And there's a live record that we did live at the Harlem Square Club, and it's. It's. It's. You really. You know, it's just like the. It's that rock and roll, the energy in the room that we talked about with the Live at the Whiskey. It's just this incredible performance where I looked at him one way and then seeing him live and hearing that and just being, like, completely blown away. And I notice, you know, like I said before, where it's like, Doc of the Bay is one way. And the stuff that I really love and making him a rock singer is all the live. The Live at Monterey and the Live at the Whiskey, Live at Paris. It's just. Those are the records that I just like. I love because of the way that he sounds. And that's, you know, to bring it back to this album. I think that's kind of why I don't. I don't dislike this album. And I've said it over and over. It's like how much of a fan I am of Otis writing. But it's just this album is exactly what I don't like about him. It's just. It feels like he's just being suppressed. And I love it when he can just fucking go.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

Well, the other thing about him is his voice is like the filter, you know, like his voice is. If you could make hit filter, that would be what people. Like, that would be like one of the five filters on Instagram that they were like, you can use this for a picture. Like, yeah, it. There's so many levels that if you were to go in and like the low spots, the high, like, all of it, he just. There's layer after layer, and it's just his natural tone.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Yeah.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

But I always love a. A person that goes into talking and he does that a lot, like kind of a talk sing. Because it's just so, like, personable.

[Josh Adam Myers]

I want to find. Can you find. There's not video of it, but. Because he's funny too. Otis Redding is funny. Like he. Like you always say, like, every comic wants to be a rock star and summer, like, actually have bits. Like if you go see Billy Joel, Billy Joel is like in between song, doing jokes, jokes, and they're funny. Like, whatever you want to say about it, he does it. Because I've seen him live so many times. It's the same set, but it's still. He knows how to get laughs. And Otis will start talking to the. There's a pull up. Do you have the. You have the Apple music account up, right? Yeah. Do Whiskey live at the Whiskey. Let me pull it up. It's live at the Whiskey. I've been loving you so long.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

Oh, God.

[Josh Adam Myers]

God, yeah. Oh, yeah.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

Dude, that song.

[Josh Adam Myers]

I've heard this, but the live version.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

No, no, I've heard.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Oh, God. He's like, we're gonna do a little gimmick real quick.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

Yeah, let's hear it.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Go to I've been loving you too long. Any one of the sets. It's funny because I want to cover these. I. We've been trying to. Well, I've been trying to do more Otis Redding. Like we were gonna. We were doing Moon Tower and I. We opened with I can't turn you loose, which he opens this set with. And I've done I've been loving you too long, like, karaoke style. But. But there's. To be able to play it with a live band would be. It's just a dream.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

It's on Apple Music. It's not.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Do you have it on Spotify? Hold on, I'll pull it up right here. I'll pull it up right here. Hold on, I'll just Pull it up on my phone and just play it through this. Hold on. I'm gonna skip ahead a little bit. Hold on. To get to the. God damn it. Oh, God damn it. So he builds a song up, and then. And this is the part of this song you got to watch, ladies and gentlemen. We do a little gimmick right here, and it goes something like this.

[Morty Coyle]

One time, I love you.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Two times, I love you, honey Three times, I.

[Morty Coyle]

Really love you, baby.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Four times I'm really low.

[Morty Coyle]

You're not honest.

[Josh Adam Myers]

You can just feel the audience just knows what's coming. Just the energy in this room right now. It's. This might be. I mean, arguably one of the greatest live recordings. This record. If you've never heard it, I'll send it to you. But it is exactly why I love Otis Redding. Just everything. The. The energy, the. The. The soul, the. The rock and roll, The. It's just. He's, hands down, I think, one of the greatest live performers in the history of music. Because you always wonder, like, why is he in the discussion when there's such little shit of him out there, there? And it's because I think just what he did in these. These opportunities that he had is just. It's just phenomenal, man.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

It's like Bo Jackson.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Yeah, dude. He's the Bo Jackson of music. That's really.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

That's.

[Josh Adam Myers]

That's. That's completely true.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

He. Yeah, there's not a lot to pull from, but he was probably one of the greatest.

[Josh Adam Myers]

I mean, the hundred greatest artists of, like, Rolling stone did. The 100 greatest artists. We were looking over that, and I think he's in the top 20. Funny. Who. If you had to put Otis Redding on the Mount Rushmore of singers, like, who else would you put up there? Like, who would be your. Like, Mount Rushmore?

[DJ Wayne Federman]

Well, of. So singers. Not just. Not songwriters.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Not just because I. I'm, like, taking away songwriting. Just sound of the voice. Like, if Otis writing is one, like, who would you. Else. Because that's. I put Otis Redding.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

Yeah.

[Josh Adam Myers]

I put Axel Rose. These are mine. I'm not saying these are right.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

Billy Holiday.

[Josh Adam Myers]

You'd put Billy Holiday. Okay. Who else?

[DJ Wayne Federman]

Aretha Franklin. Yeah, I. I like Axel Rose. I like that. Like, the prime of that. But that's not. I. You know, it almost. Yeah. It's so hard. It's like there's certain people, their voices weren't. Weren't amazing, but they had something.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Yeah.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

You know, like, all those people. I just said I think their voices were amazing, but there's Some people that, like. I mean, that even were songwriters but also had something to them that you can't replicate even if you try, which would be like, Towns Van Zandt or, you know, I remember you talking about.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Towns Vans in the last time you came on. Because your son's name is Towns, right?

[DJ Wayne Federman]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And his voice was nothing spectacular, but it is really, when you really listen to it, the. The intonation and all the things along with his weird guitar playing. But. But, yeah, I mean, that. These are like the. You know, this would be like, saying, I like Brody Stevens. You know, like, it's. It's like he's like a comics comic that somebody asked me the day, like, what. What do you like about Brody? Like, what did all the comedians like about him? So much, And I'm like. Like, I can't even tell you. Like, the references, the. The reality of it. The knowing him.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Yeah.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

Like, knowing the struggle, but also knowing that it's coming out in a way that it's coming. You know, just all those things made it. Made it special.

[Josh Adam Myers]

I know. And. And especially with the way that he passed away, it makes all the. The sets. It just. It's. Everything hits differently when you think about him, because it's, like, you didn't realize because he was always about, like, you know, positive energy in this, and he's just like, oh, this guy was dealing with, like, real, like, just sorrow and melancholy, and he was such a beautiful guy, and he was so funny, and there was a great time where he was getting everything he deserved when Comedy Central was on his nuts and he had the TV show, and you're like, yeah. Oh, he was such a special guy.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

Yeah. Yeah. And it's funny, too, because there's, like, stories that I want to keep about him where I'm like. Like, there are moments where I saw that side of him, and in places like in Ireland when I was there with him at the festival, and, you know, where you see this kind of side where you really are worried about him, you know, And. Yeah, I had a dream about him, like, a couple years ago that was one of the best dreams I've ever had. It was so weird.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Give you. It.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

It was just a dream. It was like, where he was there, and we. I was like, why did you do it, man? And he was like, I don't know. I shouldn't have. Yeah, it was just. But it was like a great little moment. It's. I guess people that lose somebody that they love or that they were close to or that they Admired or whatever they call it a freebie. It's like you. You dream about them.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Yeah.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

You have. You could have a conversation. Sure, sure.

[Josh Adam Myers]

I dream about Angelo all the time. And it's usually. It's always like a very sweet, positive thing too. One time I did have a dream where he was like my ex girlfriend and I was like, dude, what are you doing? But I. But I got. He had a huge dick, so if I was her, I would have done it too. But with Brody, you know, they always take the people, even Otis. They always take the people that are like, you know, not done yet, or that we, that we need, like, we need. We needed more Otis Redding. We needed more. Brody Stevens. We needed more. Are Angelo Bowers. They never take the people that you're like, nope, you're good, we're done. We like, they even. Even like Kobe like you after he died, you found out how great this guy was.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

Yeah.

[Josh Adam Myers]

And. And it sucks because I wish more people would have known that when he was alive because, I mean, I hated him until he died and then I fell in love with him. Yeah. Otis died. How old was Otis when he died? 20. Was he 27? Let me see. He died at 26 years old.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

Oh my gosh.

[Josh Adam Myers]

And he. But that's what's so funny. He looks like he's 42. Like, they just look, dude, I don't. I mean, we're not like. How old are you? I'm 45.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

He did a bit about this the other night on stage where it was like 30 year old guys look like they were a grandpa's.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Yes.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

Like back in the day. On like screen. Yeah.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Like pull up pictures of Otis Redding from like the year that he died or just any. I mean, he does not. Does not look like a 26 year old. I mean, there. Yes, he looks like he's. He looks like he's 40. And that's the thing with being a black guy. Like, they age so great that he's probably gonna look like that when he was 70 also.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

Just. I mean, that, that one. Yes, he looks young. But then the one on the bottom corner right there that we see, he looks. But there aren't any wrinkles. You know, I mean, I guess, I guess just also, guys that age wearing suits and having mustaches that just made him look older.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Do you look at old pictures of your dad at your age now? And. And do you see my dad when he was 45 looks like a 60 year old man. The Tommy Bahama, the outfit. And it could be the style But I don't feel like we're aging like, like 40. I mean, is it me? I don't feel 40 and I mean, I'm trying to do everything. Obviously I'm saying this with pink hair like a goddamn loon. But I don't think that we're like, why do you think we're aging differently than back in the day?

[DJ Wayne Federman]

Yeah, I don't, I think that it is a look thing. I think it's just an active. I think that people are more vain now. So it's, you know, my dad was diet.

[Josh Adam Myers]

I think the learning about diet. We're not eating meat and potatoes every meal. We're avoiding the sun.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

My dad was not a vain person. Although he was very handsome. He is a very handsome man.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Yeah.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

I remember everyone, you know, all my friends, moms being like, and your father's so handsome.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Really tall like you.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

Not as tall as me, but pretty tall.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Sick. What are you, six, six, six four? Dude, if I was six four, what be. It would just be awesome. It would just be awesome.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

Be like, man, if I were 6 4. And then you were gonna say something that I didn't know I could do.

[Josh Adam Myers]

No, you've done it. I know you've done it. It's just you're, you're good looking, you're talented, and I'm good looking and talented. I shouldn't say that on camera, but.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

I, I know I'm not.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Well, I do, but you know what I mean? And it's like, dude, if I was six four, dude, if I was six.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

Four, I never thought about it. My brother's six five and he, he's, he's younger. He's five years younger.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Yeah.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

And he was telling me, you know, when he was single, he was like, yeah, man, it's like, you know, you're like the king of the bar. I'm like, what do you mean? He's like, well, when somebody walks in the bar, they immediately find you. Yeah, you're the tallest guy. And I was like, really? That happens. I, I, I don't know. I didn't ever pay attention to that.

[Josh Adam Myers]

You're a good looking guy. But if you were like, not you to say like sloth level, like disfigured. But dude, being tall, you, you get the break. Dude. So many weird looking tall guys have hot girls just because of tall. I know, I did like, bring that. How tall was Otis Redding? Will you look that up for us? I'm wondering. He looks like a goddamn giant. They call him the Big O, the Madman. Of Macon Roadhouse. Reading. The king of soul.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

61.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Yeah.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

220. Good God.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Oh, he was big boy. Dude, put on. We gotta wrap this up. Put on. God damn it. I want to find one of the performances where he really like, because there's audio. Yeah, go to. Is this. Is this, this is Monterey Pop. This is Monterey Pop. Go to. Does this Try A Little Tenderness?

[DJ Wayne Federman]

I'm not sure.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Just hit play for a second. Let's hear what it sounds like.

[Morty Coyle]

Have been loving you.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Too long to stop now I just love everything about him. Do you know why Rose's boyfriend? Taylor. Yeah, Taylor Boss. He's done one. He's an incredible artist, and I had him. I commissioned him to do a painting a while ago. He did Miles Davis, and he's like, I never do, like, not commissions, but I don't do, like, actual people. He does more abstract stuff. And he put on the music. He's any. And he. I said put on, like, he's like, what album do you want me to, to paint to him? Like, paint to, like, brew. I want it to be really, like, like, like out there. I need this incredible version. And when I moved to New York, I needed more art, and so I had him do a painting of Otis Redding and I had him put on the Whiskey album that I was talking about. And it's just such an incredible painting. And it's like, especially knowing that he was listening to that record. There's not many artists that, that I've. That I love as much as I love Otis Redding. It's. There's everything about this guy, man. It's like. And I don't know, a lot of the, like, a lot of the history of, of who he was as an actual person, but just on the performance level of what. I steal so much from him on stage. We, we do these questions for everybody. Pull up the track listing for me, bud. Favorite song on this record, Tramp.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

I mean, just because of what, what I remember as a child, that song. I would play it, but I think Sit on the Dock of the Bay obviously, is like, the easy pick, but, yeah. Tramp.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Is there anything that you skip over?

[DJ Wayne Federman]

I mean, I gotta be honest. Like, the Hucklebuck and Old, Old Man Trouble, I kinda.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Yeah, no, I get it. This is not my favorite record. Yeah, I, I, this is not this. You know, usually I get excited to listen to albums. I love Otis Redding, and out of all of this, this is knowing what I know about this being just a cash grab after he died. It's just, I get It. So sitting on the dock of the bay rules, Tramps Awesome.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

Glory of love. I love.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Phenomenal. Yeah, but I get it. Can you. To this record.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

I mean. Yeah. I don't know if there's a record that I couldn't. Not. Not like, in a cocky way. Like, I. I can make it all work.

[Josh Adam Myers]

You could. The tool. Actually, you could probably the tool pretty good because there's a lot of instrumentals.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

Yeah, you could.

[Josh Adam Myers]

To Bob Dylan.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

Sure. Oh, I've done it. Sure. Yeah.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Aren't you, like, paying attention to the lyrics and kind of like.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

I mean, I just got, you know, I just had, like, playlists that I've got songs on that, you know, things just start happening.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Do you have a sex playlist?

[DJ Wayne Federman]

No, but I've. I mean, I have romantic playlists that I've made to, like, give people.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Sure. That you could do as well.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Right on.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

I mean, you could. I could. To a podcast.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Really?

[DJ Wayne Federman]

Sure.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Let's see. That's. That's too. Like, I've had TV on while I'm. But it's. It's just background, obviously. But it's like, if you're. I would at this point in my life, if the TV is on or there's a podcast on and it looks like I'm gonna have sex if. If it's with somebody that, you know, I. You know, not safe, just first time. But it's like, if you're trying to set the mood, like, I. If somebody I can be comfortable with, be like, wait, pause for a second. Let me put something on. Like. Like, I'll. In the middle of sex, be like, alexa, play Porter's head. Like, so I've done that many, many times. So podcast. Not really.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

It's not Alexa. It's almost like you kind of dip into a threesome there for a second.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Yeah, she's listening, dude. She's like. He's like, okay, hey, do you enjoy this? All right. What would be your. What would be your elevator pitch to get someone to listen to this record?

[DJ Wayne Federman]

I would say, God, elevator pitch for anything is hard for me. I'd say, listen. Do you want to sit down and listen to a guy who died before his prime? Like. Like, we're seeing what you probably. This probably isn't even his prime. The last songs that he wrote that they put onto an album, he didn't even really produce it, but you can listen to it and know that it was where he was going. I do it.

[Josh Adam Myers]

I think. I think when you. When you talk about this record is. Is you know that. How do I put this? The title track is why this record is on. And listen to this. And this is. This is a. A. This is a just a toe into the bathtub. That is one of the greatest soul rock and roll singers of all time. I would say. I would say turn this one off and listen to Otis Redding live at the Whiskey. Nick, this was great. Thank you so much. Coming on, buddy.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

Thank you for having me.

[Josh Adam Myers]

What did I tell you? What did I tell you? The one and only Nick Thune. Follow him on Instagram at Nick Thune on Tick Tock Thick Noon. That's a good one. And on Facebook at Nick Thune. And go to Nick Thune.com for all things Nick. And check out his most recent special Born Young, available on his website, Nick Thune.com for a new music pick this week, Distrokid, our proud sponsor, has brought you Just As Long as We're Together by Jalen Naganda. You can find links to the music on the website the500podcast.com and if you are in a band or directly influenced by one of these albums or artists, you want your music featured on the 500 song section. At the end, send us your song to 500podcastgmail.com put the album and artist that influenced you in the subject line. Next week, T Rex week, as we go deep Into Electric Warrior from 71, we got couple special guests on that app. So dig it. Do your homework, y'all.

[Morty Coyle]

Just as long as we're together together There is no was time Just as long as together together There is no place or time no passing by Laughing smile they proceed they know what to stop probably wide they call us sa They've been there before Just as long as we're together together There is no place for time Listen to me Just as long as we're together together There is no place or time My peace of mind Never more are the fears to put me down the worry starts away Another door has opened up the present smile and locked away to pay Just as long as we're together together There is no place or time no no time what I say Just as long as we're together together There is no place or time no time.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

Just.

[Morty Coyle]

As long no there is no place without Long as we're together together There is no place the 500 keeping it.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Fleecy for the fleece nation.

[Morty Coyle]

On the 500 the 500.

[Nick Thune]

This is Lawrence Lanahan, journalist, musician and host of Rearranged, an Osiris media podcast about music arranging. Once a song is written. Arrangers make musical decisions that shape how we end up hearing the song. We're not just talking about adding orchestral accompaniment like horns and strings, or doing a cover version of a song. Arrangement can be putting happy music over dark lyrics, using samples, recording all acoustic, even tiny decisions like putting an electronic loop into an acoustic song to draw your attention to an important turn of phrase. It's all arranging. Rearranged Episodes are documentary essays where I use arrangements to answer some big questions like what is a song and what can a song become? And how can the sound of a song change the meaning you take from it? Listening this way has changed my relationship with music. Tune in to Rearranged, and maybe it'll happen for you, too. Learn [e-mail] Osiris.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Hey, what's up, you guys? This is Reid Mathis. I made a podcast called the Gifts of Improvising. The Gifts of Improvising that's coming out on Osiris. We talked to all your favorite improvisers, Natalie Crestman, Marco Benevento, Tom Hamilton, Aaron Magner, Holly Bowling, Bill Kreutzman, and Jay Lane.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

So what, you're doing a podcast?

[Josh Adam Myers]

Yeah, doing a podcast. So don't fear if you hear a.

[DJ Wayne Federman]

Foreign sound to your ear.

[Josh Adam Myers]

We need the Gifts of Improvising. Next chapter Podcast.