
In this episode, Bryan unpacks what makes a truly effective sales playbook - and why now is the time for sales leaders to get serious about it. He shares the key components every playbook must include: a foundational philosophy, planning elements,...
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Welcome everybody to the Advanced Selling Podcast, the longest running sales training podcast in podcast history. My name is Brian Neal. This two minute drill powered by Blind Zebra sales operating system bzsos. If you want to learn more, you know the jingle, sing it with me. BZSOS@blind-zebra.com B Easy SOS blind-zebra.com We are filling certification classes for the fall as we speak. And you need to be in one, your boss needs to be in one, your leader needs to be in one to get certified to take these tools with you, especially heading into the fourth quarter. Got there's some tools in there that are just magic for the fourth quarter. Highly recommend that you do that. Another thing you need to know about all of the people that run on BCSOs. In this case, there's going to be over a hundred of them are going to be here on October 30th for a meetup called Huddle. This is for sales leaders only. Sorry, salespeople, we're going to have one for you in 26 sales leaders only. 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And also anywhere we post this, we'll be sure to put that code in there. So you get discounted tickets because just hear that. It's Christmas in July. Who's with me? Come on. Christmas in July. Just hear those slaves. God, my. It's bad. I'm gonna tell me not to sing. You guys tell me not to sing. I know better. Not a good singer. So that's that. Okay, Christmas in July. Huddle I told you about bzsos@blind-zebra.com told you about that. All right, let's go. Playbook time. Playbook time. Playbook time. We talked a little bit about the. Here's the case for playbooks. Last time today, I'm going to drill down a little bit and talk about what's in a good playbook, which should be in there. Okay. We have a. For the Blind Zebra sales operating system. A really, really thorough playbook. Very thorough. Okay. Yours doesn't have to be that thorough, or you could just use ours. Just saying. Anyway, but it is in paper form, and I swore when I left Procter and Gamble. We used to go to training at png. We had a lot of acronyms. Do you have a lot of acronyms in your business? I'm sure you do. Most people do. You're like, yeah, I do. We had one. We went to training at png, and it was called an aftrb. And you left every training session with an aftrb. And what AFTRB stands for? And I'll clean it up so we don't get an explicit rating. AFTRB stands for another freaking three ring binder. Another freaking three ring binder. And you take it home with you and you'd plop it up on your shelf with all the other aftrbs that you never even looked at. And that was that. So when I started working with Bill in 1997, I'm like, I'm not doing any. I'm not doing materials. I'm. Let people take notes. They're big kids. I'll write it up on the whiteboard. They take their notes, they apply. It's plenty. Well, full circle. Here we go. You can't. If you're. If you're driving, you can't see this. I'm literally holding up my aftrb. That's the master operating manual for bzs. This is the playbook. It's really thorough. It needs to be in a physical form. Needs to be in physical form. Let's talk about what's in it. Okay. First thing to think about in a good playbook is the structure of the tabs or the. The steps and things. We like to recommend that every good playbook starts with some sort of foundational philosophy thing. So if you've been listening to the podcast for any longer than 10 minutes, you know that Bill and I believe in three really important things. Abundance and detachment and intention. We believe in the abundance of the world, the market around us in the universe. We believe in having really, really healthy detachment from outcomes both good and bad. And we believe in carrying good intention with us always. There's a little foundational thing for you right now. You can add your own in the BZ. SOS. We have 10 of those and they're codified. I hate that word because I always want to say codified. Am I the only one that wants to say codified? And is it codified? I don't even. That's where I need Bill. He's my master of vocabulary and I am not. Anyway, codified, Codified. Tomato, tomato, your deal. It's written down. You have laptop stickers. One of our clients that just got certified in our system, she's a VP of a really, really big company everybody's heard of. She printed out a poster of the BC SOS guiding principles and put it behind her desk. That's what I'm talking about. So good playbook always has some foundational element of guiding principles or philosophies or core values or something that's written down in ink. Okay. Paper. You can see it first thing.
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Learn more@blind-zebra.com Next, a good operating system must include a planning element. Okay, now this could be a combination of any of the following. It could be a business plan template. You know, Bill and I are very, very big on personal business planning. You know, Bill does a personal business planning session with you listeners almost every year in December. I hope he does that again. This is, I'm recording this in the spring summer of 2025 and hopefully he's done that again. All BZSOS clients have a personalized business plan that they use as part of the system. So it needs to have some planning element and there's also call planning. So this has to do those of you who are in the outside sales world, you're driving around literally efficient trip planning. And also if you're going to land in cities, you're looking at connectors and you're using those sorts of things to plan days. We would always recommend that any planning productivity element of a good playbook looks out ahead past the day. So this means we're looking at weeks, months, quarters for planning, not just what's in front of us. That's his second altim. A really good, really good playbook is a planning section. Okay. Third, then every Good playbook should have a process to it. Okay. We at Blind Zebra run on a system called eos that stands for the entrepreneurial operating system. It's a cross functional operating system for a fast growing company, which we are and we're really proud about. And it helps us manage the chaos. Without that system, we would crumble like a house of cards. It would be bad. With the system, we have structure in place so that we ever hit a headwind or whatever. We have a very defined process, a very defined meeting cadence that we hit that make sure we are never letting things slip through cracks. Okay. It's really, really, really good. Your, your playbook must have some process in it. The process can be both. Internal meaning. Here's what we do when we get a new deal. Here's how I log an opportunity in Salesforce step by step. Here's how I clean up my Salesforce or my CRM or my HubSpot, step by step. It can also then include a process between you and your buyer. This is my favorite part in the Eos world. This is one of their tools. It's called proven process and it's documented, written down, one paged, and it's awesome. And it helped sell us. We saw it with our coach and he showed it to us and here we are four years later and we created one for, for Blind Zebra. You should have one that's a one page documented with pictures and steps. And we added a Blind Zebra timeline to that too. So every good playbook should have processes in it that would include internal processes and external processes. Okay, then the next thing that every good playbook should have is and I get this from my pilot days. I used to fly airplanes. I got my pilot's license in the late 90s. And I jokingly say one of the things that getting your pilot's license does is it teaches you how to keep your cool right before you die. Which is kind of weird to think about. Like, I'm going to keep my chill. I'm just going to work the process right before we nosedive into the ground at 300 miles an hour. Hopefully that doesn't happen. To prevent that from happening, we have checklists. So every good playbook we believe should have a cluster muck trying to be nice here. Keep our non explicit rating going. We issue that, what do we. What's our plan of things go wrong? Okay, this could include, what if I get ghosted? What if a new person comes into the. Into the buying mix? What if we get delayed for an unforeseen Circumstance. What if the CFO gives us price resistance at the last minute? Anything that's a scenario based playbook or scenario based element that has scenarios that come up, you need to have a plan to handle those. When I referee on my Sunday job, we have a plan. If one of our on field officials gets hurt, we have a plan for that. It's a whole book. It's like 46 pages. If one person gets hurt, it almost never, ever, ever happens. And if it does, we literally have a 46 page document that we. The moment that that happens, we know exactly what to do. We know what to do. If the technology goes down on a replay system instantly, we have backup plans for everything. Okay, those are contingency plans. Every good playbook should have a set of contingency plans. The last thing I'll tell you that should be a component of a good playbook is it needs to have some element of an accountability mechanism to it. So mechanism to us means that you assign either people to be together with agenda and or dates and times where there are accountability meetings being held regularly. We have, as part of running our company, we have a 90 minute, 90 minutes every week, accountability session, 90 minutes a week. Okay? Everybody's like, I'm too busy for 90 minutes a week. Nobody wants to have a busy contest with us. Everybody's busy. We get that it's that important that we don't let anything slip through the cracks. It's the accountability to make sure we do what we say we're going to do. Our coach always says our job is to get our TO DOS to done. Our system that we use, we use some software to keep track and it keeps score of that, of what percentage of our TO DOS to to done. Do we get to DOS to to done. Thank you, Justin. Justin Most. You can quote him on that one. Okay, so it needs to have some element of accountability. All right, so those are the core components we'd recommend. If you're building your own process, you can put all that into chat GPT. If you're writing it out, you could put that up against yours and say, hey dude, does my playbook or play. I said process my. Does my playbook have all these elements in it? That should be a thing that you should ask. Okay, you want to learn how to get certified blind zebra sales operating system. You know what to do. Just email bzsoslin-zebra.com that's for leaders. That's for leaders. Leaders only. And leaders come to huddle. You'll get a discount code to come to huddle Christmas in July code because you know how much easy and benial of Christmas. That's it. I will see you next time. The advanced podcast.
Podcast Summary: The Advanced Selling Podcast – "Why Your Sales Team Needs a Real Playbook" (Released June 18, 2025)
Hosts: Bill Caskey and Bryan Neale, seasoned B2B sales trainers with over two decades of experience.
In the episode titled "Why Your Sales Team Needs a Real Playbook," hosts Bill Caskey and Bryan Neale delve deep into the necessity of having a structured playbook for sales teams. They emphasize that a well-crafted playbook not only streamlines sales processes but also fosters consistency, accountability, and adaptability within a sales organization.
Bryan Neale kicks off the discussion by highlighting the common pitfalls of sales training materials becoming stagnant over time. Drawing from personal experiences at Procter & Gamble, he humorously critiques the overreliance on cumbersome training binders:
"AFTRB stands for another freaking three ring binder. And you take it home with you and you'd plop it up on your shelf with all the other AFTRBs that you never even looked at." (03:15)
Neale contrasts this with their approach at Blind Zebra Sales Operating System (BZSOS), advocating for interactive and actionable resources over static documents.
Bill Caskey and Bryan Neale outline the essential elements that constitute a robust sales playbook. Their insights are grounded in their extensive experience and the proprietary BZSOS framework.
Every playbook should begin with core philosophies or guiding principles that shape the sales approach. Neale shares the foundational beliefs of BZSOS:
"We believe in the abundance of the world, the market around us, in the universe. We believe in having really, really healthy detachment from outcomes both good and bad. And we believe in carrying good intention with us always." (04:10)
These principles set the tone for the sales strategy and ensure that the team remains aligned with the company's values.
A comprehensive playbook incorporates both business and call planning:
Business Planning: Personal business plans for each team member ensure individual goals align with organizational objectives. Neale mentions:
"All BZSOS clients have a personalized business plan that they use as part of the system." (05:10)
Call Planning: For outside sales teams, efficient trip planning and day-to-day agenda setting are crucial. This involves strategic scheduling and leveraging connectors within target cities.
Importantly, the planning should extend beyond daily tasks, encompassing weeks, months, and quarters to facilitate long-term success.
A structured process is vital to manage the chaos inherent in sales operations. Neale introduces the Entrepreneurial Operating System (EOS), which helps Blind Zebra maintain order and efficiency:
"Without that system, we would crumble like a house of cards. It would be bad. With the system, we have structure in place so that we never hit a headwind or whatever." (07:05)
Key aspects include:
Internal Processes: Step-by-step procedures for logging opportunities, managing CRMs like Salesforce or HubSpot, and maintaining data cleanliness.
External Processes: Documented interactions with buyers, ensuring consistency and professionalism in every client engagement.
Preparedness for unexpected scenarios is a hallmark of a resilient sales team. Drawing parallels from his pilot training, Neale underscores the importance of checklists and contingency strategies:
"We have a plan for things that go wrong... If the technology goes down on a replay system, instantly, we have backup plans for everything." (09:40)
These plans cover various potential disruptions, ensuring the team can swiftly adapt without losing momentum.
Ensuring that team members adhere to the playbook requires robust accountability structures. The hosts advocate for regular accountability meetings and tracking mechanisms:
"Our system that we use, we use some software to keep track and it keeps score of that, of what percentage of our TO DOS to to done." (11:25)
This approach guarantees that commitments are met and provides transparency within the team.
Neale encourages listeners to either adopt the detailed playbook provided by BZSOS or tailor their own by incorporating the discussed elements. He suggests leveraging tools like ChatGPT for building custom processes and regularly reviewing the playbook to ensure it remains relevant and effective.
While the core focus is on the playbook, the episode also includes promotional content about upcoming events and certification classes related to BZSOS. Notably, they announce "Huddle 2025," a meetup for sales leaders to collaborate and share strategies, offering discounted tickets to podcast listeners.
Bill Caskey and Bryan Neale wrap up the episode by reinforcing the indispensable role of a well-structured playbook in driving sales success. They emphasize that a real playbook not only outlines processes and plans but also embodies the team's philosophies and ensures accountability, ultimately leading to sustained performance and growth.
"If you're building your own process, you can put all that into Chat GPT... Does my playbook have all these elements in it? That should be a thing that you should ask." (12:50)
Key Takeaways:
Structured Framework: A playbook should encompass foundational philosophies, planning elements, defined processes, contingency plans, and accountability mechanisms.
Adaptability and Consistency: Balancing structured processes with the flexibility to handle unexpected scenarios ensures both reliability and resilience.
Accountability: Regular tracking and accountability meetings are crucial for maintaining adherence to the playbook and achieving sales goals.
Continuous Improvement: Regularly reviewing and updating the playbook ensures it remains aligned with evolving market dynamics and organizational objectives.
This episode serves as a comprehensive guide for sales leaders aiming to establish or refine their sales playbooks, offering actionable insights grounded in proven strategies.