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Welcome to the podcast. I'm your host, Jaden Schaefer. Today on the podcast we're talking about the massive investment deal that Nvidia has just made. $2 billion is going to go towards Core Weave, who has a ton of debt and it's going to help them add 5 gigawatts of AI compute. This is an absolutely massive deal and this is also a kind of a an interesting story considering the situation that Core Weave has faced, found themselves in and how they got here. So we'll be covering all of that on the podcast today. But before we do, I wanted to tell you about the newest feature that we have just added to AI Box that I am so excited about. AI Box, as you know, is my own startup and it's for vibe building AI tools and we just added the feature that is much requested of attachments. So you're able to attach images and when you build boxes you're able to attach files to it. Which means that there is a ton of new tools you can create where you're uploading PDFs or you're uploading spreadsheets or uploading images. And you can actually make tools that can take inputs of all these types of files and spit out outputs which are really, really cool. So if you want to go try building a tool on AI Box, AI if you are not a developer, go check it out. It is $20 a month to get access to all of the tools and over 40 different AI models that you can use to replace all your subscriptions. It is linked in the description. I'd love to see what you make and I'm happy to shout it out. So let me know if you build anything cool and I'm happy to share that on the podcast. All right, let's get into the episode today. So was what was really impressive to me is Mike Nvidia, of course, just like the price tag on this is $2 billion for Core Weave and I think they already had quite a close relationship because Core Weave is, you know, a data center operator and they're trying to very quickly grow a lot of their AI infrastructure footprint over the next 10 years, really. So this investment is now going to value Core Reeves Class a shares at $87.20 a piece. And it is intended to basically speed up their plan to deploy more than 5 gigawatts of AI compute capacity by 2030. So that level of power capacity is going to basically place Core Weave among the top, you know, the, the most energy intensive AI infrastructure operators in the world. It's going to be on par with the same scale that you see, you know, some of these high hyperscalers like Google and OpenAI and all of these other people that are, you know, building their own infrastructure. Core Weave is going to be right there with them. So as part of this deal, Nvidia and Core Weave say that they're going to kind of jointly develop what they're calling AI factories. These are large scale data centers and they have a very specific purpose which is for training and running AI models. And that's all of it is of course going to be using Nvidia's hardware. So Nvidia, this is a smart move for them, but they are finding one of the bigger, one of the bigger players in data centers and they're saying, look, we'll invest in you, but you're going to lock in with our hardware and of course also their software stack. So CoreWeave is also going to standardize on Nvidia technologies across its platform. So that includes the upcoming Rubin GPU architecture which is expected to come after the Blackwell, along with Bluefield networking and storage systems. And nvidias, they kind of have this new CPU line that they just announced which is called Vera. So Cor, we is going to be integrating with all of that. I think it's also a really interesting investment because it's, it's basically a vote of confidence when coreweave has been under a lot of scrutiny for its, basically the structure of its capital structure. Right. So they've leaned really heavily on debt to finance their expansion, which, like, let's be honest, this company is growing at an absolutely impressive rate, but they're using their own inventory of GPUs as collateral for all of the debt that they've, they've taken on. So according to, if you look at PitchBook and you kind of look at some of the data over there, Coreweave has about $18.81 billion in debt as of September last year. And so at the same time they also have about $1.36 billion in revenue in the third quarter. So I think you can see there is also, you know, a lot of demand for their services, but also almost $19 billion in debt. And let's say they're making like $5 billion a year. Um, you know, they, they have to go service all of that debt. So there is a lot of pressure there while they're building a lot of this AI infrastructure. Their CEO is Michael Intrader and he has repeatedly defended their model. I mean, to be fair, $15 billion in revenue. I mean, like, let's just say the Most recent was 1.36 and so probably a lot lower in the past, but he's probably projecting growth into the future. So let's just say like 5 or 6 billion dollars on 6, you know, on 18 billion dollars. It doesn't take that many years for them to pay that off. But you also have to know that they are growing rapidly. They're scaling, they're taking in, you know, like $2 billion from Nvidia and they're going to probably go spend all of that or spend a big chunk of it on, on servicing the debt and all of that. So their CEO has said the AIs forced companies to rethink traditional financing and also partnership structures. He basically said, you know, there's no concerns about circular investment in the ecosystem. He's pointed to what basically describes as a quot change in supply chain demand. One that he said requires a lot of collaboration between chip makers, infrastructure providers and a lot of these AI labs. And so he's basically saying if you want to remove the bottlenecks, this is the only way that you're going to be able to do it. Their trajectory over the last few years I think just shows how quickly the AI market is reshaping itself. Core Weave and for those that forget, right, Core we've actually originally was like a crypto mining company. So they started really aggressively pivoting to AI infrastructure when the demand for GPU based compute was just going through the roof. And I think there's a lot of people that were in crypto mining and then, you know, kind of the crypto mar, the crypto bear market happened. The winter, crypto winter, whatever you want to call it, kind of all started with FTX collapsing and then the price of a lot of cryptocurrencies was crashing and a lot of these miners were not profitable. But at the exact same time we had AI which was starting to scale rapidly. A lot of people needed this gpu. And so Core Weave was one of those big companies that had all of this infrastructure and they're like, okay guys, we're moving to, we're moving to training AI. So since going public in March last year, they've moved really quickly to expand beyond just kind of raw Compute, their kind of building a broader AI development stack. And they're doing this through a lot of acquisitions. So they're actually going and buying a lot of companies. I think those deals include a lot of high profile companies. One of those is Weights and Biases, which is like a really widely used platform for tracking and managing machine learning experiments. They also had the acquisition of the reinforcement learning startup, which is called openpipe. And then in October they agreed to acquired Marimo, which is an open source alternative to Jyper Notebooks as well as Monolith, another AI focused company. So I think all of these companies that they're buying shows that they have, they're like, it's a very ambitious company and they're trying to give developers a really vertical kind of integrated environment rather than just renting GPUs as kind of their only revenue source. They also are kind of continuing to make a lot of relationships with some of the big AI players. They have a whole bunch of hyperscalers that are using them and a bunch of AI labs. So that includes OpenAI, Meta, Microsoft. They also recently expanded their cloud partnership with OpenAI in particular. So I think all of those relationships have helped to really set Core Weave as a. It's like, it's a really good alternative if you're looking for a compute provider. And there's obviously all of the loud, like all of the largest cloud platforms out there, there's AWS and Google and Microsoft, but sometimes those companies don't want to use their competitors cloud platforms. And so Core Weave seems to be kind of this good alternative where they have, you know, tons of scale but there, you know, people are able to use them. So I think beyond just the equity investment, Nvidia also said that they're going to work really closely with coreweave on securing land, which is kind of interesting, right? And then power and grid access for future data center sites. Nvidia obviously a massive company and it seems like they have a lot of connections, whether that's in the government or other places. So honestly this might be a good deal for Core Weave to work with Nvidia who can go and get them land and power and grid access contracts that are like very bureaucratic and hard to get. So this is definitely a challenge that a lot of AI companies are having like this kind of Regional energy infrastructure issue. And I think Nvidia is also planning to incorporate some of corewebs AI software and systems, designing them and putting all of those into some of their own reference architectures, which are then going to be used by other companies and, and cloud providers as blueprints for deploying AI at scale. So this is really a win win for Nvidia and for Core Weave. The markets after all of this, after this $2 billion investment, reacted very positively to the news. Core Weave shares jumped more than 15% after it was all announced. For Nvidia, this kind of fits into their broader strategy, right? They're trying to reinforce the entire AI supply chain. And I think the primary beneficiary and enabler of the current AI boom is Nvidia. And so because of this, they have made dozens of really strategic investments over the past year. And that's, you know, cloud providers, that's AI startups. I mean, OpenAI, basically all of the big AI startups are getting Nvidia money. I think a lot of the infrastructure partners are also getting a lot of this Nvidia money, which Nvidia is now one of the, is the most valuable company in the world. And I mean, these things fluctuate a bit, but Nvidia is definitely, is definitely getting a lot of benefit from all of these investments. But the whole ecosystem is also benefiting. I think Nvidia knows they need to make sure everything is stable. These companies aren't, you know, going to go bankrupt or have any major issues or that affects the entire market. So I think if they're backing a lot of these companies like Core Weave, they're, you know, not only just making sure that there is sustained demand for their chips, right, because Corb's going to buy more of their chips, but they're also helping remove any sort of practical constraints around power land development that could otherwise slow the growth of AI adoption. They're like, look, we have connections, we understand the system. We can get you all of these contracts and help you like with everything you need to build out your data center. So Nvidia is a really good partner, but also Nvidia is benefiting a lot from these relationships. Seems like a win win. And it seems like the seems like the markets have kind of agreed that this is something that's going to be beneficial for both of these companies. Thank you so much for tuning into the podcast. If you learned anything new or if you appreciate, appreciated the episode, I would love it if you could leave a rating and review wherever you get your podcast. If they're on Apple, you can leave some stars and then a comment if you're over on Spotify, it's the about tab. But yeah, really appreciate all of the all of the comments, all the reviews, all of the support on the podcast. I hope this is helpful to you as you are learning what what is going on in the AI ecosystem. And the reviews help me out tremendously with the show and growing it. So thank you so much. Make sure to go check out AI box AI and the new file upload feature that we added so you can build tools that allow you to upload files and create some really incredible stuff. Thank you so much for tuning in and I'll catch you in the next episode.