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Welcome to this special episode of the govdiscovery AI Podcast. I'm your host, Mike Shanley. Today at the Professional Services Council's Defense Conference, I had the opportunity to sit down with Congressman James Walkinshaw, Democrat for Virginia. We discussed the shutdown, its effect on the defense industrial base as well as Ukraine, the defense of Ukraine, the importance of Ukraine for our national security. I hope you enjoy this brief episode on national security in Ukraine. I guess a short version of the question, what do you think the US should be doing right now for Ukraine? But then to your constituents, what is important to them? Does that. Is that an issue that's resonating with your constituents, the defense of Ukraine and how it affects American national security?
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Well, one, you know, I believe the US Needs to be firm in its resolve of, you know, supporting the sovereign rights of the Ukrainian people and the democracy that exists in Ukraine. I think we have to not shy away from pointing out, you know, the illegal actions of Vladimir Putin to seize Ukrainian territory. I welcome the Russian recent decision with respect to sanctions from President Trump. I think the mistake that President Trump has made is in not being consistent. He seems to. And he said this recently. You know, when I talk on the phone to Vladimir, you know, it sounds like everything is great, and then we get off the phone and he never does what he says he's going to do. Well, every other world leader figured that out a decade ago. It's no secret that that's how Vladimir Putin operates. So we need President Trump to realize Putin understands strength and resolve, and that's what the United States should show. That's what we need President Trump to show. It is something that I hear about from my constituents. We do have a Ukrainian American community in Northern Virginia. One of my colleagues, Congressman Bendman, is among them. But I think more broadly, there are just still a lot of Americans who believe that the United States should support and advocate for freedom and democracy and against dictators and against this trend we're seeing globally of rule by force, which is what Vladimir Putin represents?
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What about for the defense industrial base? How has the shutdown on the short term affected the readiness there, but also long term, how do you see a disruption like this affecting their ability to grow and support America's evolving national security priorities?
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Yeah, I mean, the shutdown absolutely has an effect. I mean, the, the specific, tangible effects it has that I hear from people and heard from people today. Renewals not being renewed, slowing things down, new contract awards, obviously not moving forward. So I guess from an innovation perspective, one way to look at it is innovation in the federal government is paused during the shutdown. And obviously given the speed of innovation and the speed at which our adversaries around the globe, state and non state actors, are innovating, you know, a pause is a net negative. No question about that. But as I said, it is temporary. And I would say my deeper concern with respect to our national security posture are related to the longer term, the implications of the policies. Longer term. You know, recently the administration laid off and reassigned a bunch of folks at cisa. They seem to have shut down the cybersecurity fellows program. All of those things, I think weaken our cybersecurity posture. And I think, you know my message and you know, safe to say in Congress, I have as much experience working on federal IT issues as any member of Congress. You know, I don't think there are many who have focused on it. And one of the things that I've learned that seems simple, but if you want to succeed, you have to have good people and good technology. And we've had times in government where we had good people in place but didn't have the right technology in place. I think, you know, much of the Obama administration, we were in that posture. I felt that way. We had good people, but they didn't have the right technology. Trump administration today would probably say, I don't know if I agree, but they would probably say they have good things, they've gotten good technology into the government, but a lot of the good people, they fired them or driven them out. And I just don't think you can succeed that way.
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Host: Mike Shanley
Guest: Congressman James Walkinshaw (D-VA)
Date: October 31, 2025
In this special, concise episode recorded at the Professional Services Council's Defense Conference, host Mike Shanley sits down with Congressman James Walkinshaw to discuss the ongoing U.S. government shutdown, its impact on the defense industrial base, and, crucially, U.S. support for Ukraine. The episode examines how these issues are viewed both through the prism of national security and local constituent concerns, with a focus on the interplay between U.S. foreign policy, government operations, and global threats.
[00:54 – 02:33]
Firm Support is Essential:
Congressman Walkinshaw underscores the importance of standing firm in support of Ukrainian sovereignty and democracy.
"I believe the US Needs to be firm in its resolve of, you know, supporting the sovereign rights of the Ukrainian people and the democracy that exists in Ukraine." — Rep. Walkinshaw [00:54]
Calling Out Russian Aggression:
He stresses the importance of directly confronting and naming Russia’s illegal actions, specifically Vladimir Putin’s tactics in Ukraine.
Critique of Presidential Inconsistencies:
Walkinshaw critiques former President Trump’s mixed messaging and lack of consistency towards Russia and Putin:
"When I talk on the phone to Vladimir, you know, it sounds like everything is great, and then we get off the phone and he never does what he says he's going to do. Well, every other world leader figured that out a decade ago." — Rep. Walkinshaw [01:28]
Strength and Resolve Needed:
He emphasizes that U.S. leadership must project strength and resolve, as "Putin understands strength and resolve, and that's what the United States should show" [01:50].
Constituent Resonance:
The issue of supporting Ukraine is present among constituents, especially with Northern Virginia’s Ukrainian American community and others who "believe that the United States should support and advocate for freedom and democracy and against dictators."
"There are just still a lot of Americans who believe that the United States should support and advocate for freedom and democracy and against dictators and against this trend we’re seeing globally of rule by force, which is what Vladimir Putin represents." — Rep. Walkinshaw [02:19]
[02:33 – 04:56]
Immediate Impact:
"A pause is a net negative. No question about that." — Rep. Walkinshaw [03:22]
Long-Term Concerns:
Walkinshaw expresses deeper concern over longer-term policy implications, notably in cybersecurity:
"If you want to succeed, you have to have good people and good technology." — Rep. Walkinshaw [04:07]
Observations on Recent Administration Trends:
On U.S. Foreign Policy Consistency:
"Putin understands strength and resolve, and that's what the United States should show." — Rep. Walkinshaw [01:50]
On Innovation and Security:
“Innovation in the federal government is paused during the shutdown...and given the speed at which our adversaries...are innovating, a pause is a net negative.” — Rep. Walkinshaw [03:13–03:22]
Advice for National Security:
“If you want to succeed, you have to have good people and good technology.” — Rep. Walkinshaw [04:07]
The episode maintains a candid, policy-focused tone, with Walkinshaw offering direct assessments and drawing on his legislative experience with federal IT and security issues. The conversation is brisk, concise, and framed for a professional audience concerned with actionable government and international affairs insights.
For teams focused on government contracting, federal growth, or international strategy, this episode reinforces the importance of consistency, adaptability, and holistic planning in a rapidly changing global environment.