Men Under Pressure: Redefining Strength, Recovery, and Emotional Courage with Dr. Whitney Wright

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Podcast Summary: "Men Under Pressure: Redefining Strength, Recovery, and Emotional Courage with Dr. Whitney Wright"

The Amazing Authorities Podcast with Mitch Carson
Episode Date: November 11, 2025

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Episode Overview

In this compelling episode, host Mitch Carson sits down with Dr. Whitney Wright, a retired orthodontist, bestselling author, and advocate for men’s mental health. Dr. Wright opens up about his journey from building a multi-state dental empire to suffering crushing panic attacks and ultimately reinventing himself. Together, they break down the stigma men face regarding emotional vulnerability and the tools available for reclaiming mental health. The conversation is candid, practical, and deeply empathetic, offering wisdom for anyone facing burnout, internalized shame, or the relentless pressures of modern masculinity.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Dr. Whitney Wright's Background & Crisis (00:53–05:45)

• Dr. Wright, formerly a high-achieving orthodontist and entrepreneur, describes how his career and identity were derailed by mental health struggles.

  • Built 27 practices in 6 states, performed 7,000 orthodontic starts in five years.
  • “I soon learned that wasn't actually correct. I am stoppable, and I'm very stoppable.” (C, 02:49)

• His struggle included severe anxiety, depression, and PTSD, culminating in panic attacks forcing him out of clinical practice.

• The resulting guilt, shame, and loss of identity were profound, exacerbated by having to walk away from the business he’d built and pay off significant student debt.

2. The Breaking Point and Recovery (05:45–07:20)

• Even after stepping down from clinical work, panic attacks resumed three years later.
• Under the advice of a psychiatrist — “If you don't stop, you're going to die… Pretty soon, it will turn into heart attacks” — he entered a 30-day treatment facility (Sierra Tucson).
• The experience allowed him to process core issues such as childhood trauma and codependency, fostering healing and a new sense of self-acceptance.
  • “Now I love who I am and I'm enough. So it's been tremendously healing.” (C, 07:13)

3. Men, Rock Bottom, and the Pressure to Provide (08:04–09:49)

• Dr. Wright draws parallels to the concept of “rock bottom” in addiction recovery.
• He asserts the traditional protector/provider pressure on men leaves little room for healing until crisis forces change.
• Men often lack healthy coping mechanisms and might self-medicate; his support network (family, wife) was crucial in his recovery.

4. Book: "Men Under Pressure" – Purpose & Audience (09:49–12:36)

• Dr. Wright’s book, Men Under Pressure: A Man’s Guide to Reclaiming Mental Health, details his journey, includes stories of 12 other men, and serves as a practical guide at any stage of struggle.

  • “If you’re at rock bottom, here’s how you pick yourself up off the ground. Here’s how you avoid it.” (C, 10:47)

• Addresses male reluctance to voice mental health issues due to societal stigma.

  • “Oftentimes we're seen as less than or weak or broken or discardable, worthless. And that's the, that's the struggle.” (C, 11:53)

5. How Women View Male Vulnerability (12:36–14:59)

• Dr. Wright discusses women’s reactions to male vulnerability, stating responses are varied and relationship-dependent:

  • Initial reactions might include fear or resentment but can shift to support when men own their struggles and take action.
  • “If they see you striving to make a difference … it will go from resentment and fear into love and support.” (C, 13:26)

• He illustrates two divergent approaches men take: avoidance (“crack a beer and zone out”) versus proactive (“see a therapist, check testosterone”), emphasizing the latter builds trust and respect.

6. The Physiology of Burnout and Male Mental Health (15:07–16:32)

• Dr. Wright, drawing on his scientific background, outlines the biological toll of chronic stress—adrenal fatigue, hormonal disruption, the dangerous spiral of self-medicating behaviors.
  • “If we're running at high speeds and we don't really take time for ourselves, we ourselves blow up.” (C, 15:13)

7. Individual Responses: Societal Views on Male Emotional Expression (16:44–18:20)

• Societal gender expectations still deeply influence whether men feel safe showing emotion.

• Dr. Wright shares his own fear of being rejected by his wife, only to receive support and partnership when he finally opened up.

  • “Whitney, I'm so glad you're sharing this with me. How can we help you get better?” – Dr. Wright's wife (C, 17:39)

• Emphasizes the necessity of boundaries: if someone is unsupportive or judgmental, it may be time to distance oneself.

8. The Role of Spirituality in Recovery (19:14–21:07)

• Spirituality played a key role in Dr. Wright’s recovery, even as a scientifically trained professional.

  • “When you know, or at least believe that there is more out there than just your own basic existence, that's helpful…” (C, 20:17)

• Advocates openness: anyone—regardless of religious or secular worldview—can benefit as long as they acknowledge there are forces or values bigger than individual ego.

  • “It doesn't have to be a being, it can just be mother nature. Some power that is greater than themselves…” (C, 22:25)

9. About the Book: Format & Resources (25:14–27:30)

• The book is structured as a “crawl, walk, run" guide for different stages of struggle, with actionable steps for each.
• Includes supplementary tools: downloadable workbook, recommended reading, self-administered quizzes (e.g., for codependency).
• The book has helped not only men but also women seeking better understanding; changed lives, including helping readers avoid suicidal thoughts.

10. Accessibility and Further Connections (27:34–28:58)

• “Men Under Pressure” is available in ebook, paperback, hardcover, and audiobook formats (recorded by Dr. Wright himself).
• Dr. Wright welcomes contact via menunderpressure.com and Instagram (@DrWhitneyWright).
• He regularly appears in media (e.g., Fox News-Arizona) promoting male mental health.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Burnout:
  “I burned so bright and so hot, and then I burned out.” (C, 03:25)

• On Identity Loss:
  “It was who I was. It was my entire identity. And now I'm no longer able to function in that capacity. It was rough. Oh, man, I was tore up from the floor up, Mitch. It was bad.” (C, 04:44)

• On Family Support:
  “More than I deserved…they were phenomenal.” (C, 05:09)

• On Men and Vulnerability:
  “If we open up and we're vulnerable... Oftentimes we're seen as less than or weak or broken or discardable, worthless. And that's the struggle.” (C, 11:47)

• On Women’s Perceptions:
  “If they see you striving to succeed... it will go from resentment and fear into love and support.” (C, 13:24)

• On Spirituality’s Role:
  “I knew that I was receiving power greater than myself because I was powerless against workaholism.” (C, 20:50)

• On Book’s Impact:
  “I've had men reach out and say, this book has changed my life. I was, I was headed towards suicidal ideation and now I'm pulling back out of that…” (C, 25:02)

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Important Timestamps

• Dr. Wright’s professional rise and crash: 01:12–03:31
• Financial and emotional fallout: 03:47–05:03
• Deciding to go to treatment: 05:45–06:02
• Breakfrom shame/guilt to self-acceptance: 06:11–07:20
• The meaning of rock bottom: 08:16–09:49
• Discussing his book “Men Under Pressure”: 10:01–12:36
• Stereotypes and stigma around men’s emotions: 11:46–12:36
• Women’s responses to male vulnerability: 13:19–14:35
• Scientific view of stress and addiction: 15:11–16:32
• Personal story of opening up to his wife: 17:06–18:20
• Importance of spirituality: 19:30–21:35
• Inclusivity, resources, and book tools: 24:19–27:30
• Ways to connect with Dr. Wright: 28:41–28:58

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Closing

Dr. Whitney Wright’s journey highlights the dangers of relentless achievement and the healing found in vulnerability, connection, and self-acceptance. His story, and the tools he shares in “Men Under Pressure,” offer a roadmap for any man (or loved one) feeling crushed by expectations. Dr. Wright advocates for robust self-examination, compassionate action, and the courage to reach out—even when stigma says to stay silent. This wide-ranging episode balances science, lived experience, and humor, providing both hope and practical solutions.

Find Dr. Wright’s work: menunderpressure.com | Instagram: @DrWhitneyWright

Quote to Remember:
"Now I love who I am and I'm enough." — Dr. Whitney Wright (07:13)

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Transcript

[A]

Welcome to the Amazing Authorities podcast, where game changers, visionaries, and category leaders share how they built their brands, platforms, and global influence. Your host is Mitch Carson, international speaker, media strategist, and creator of the Instant Authority system. If you're ready to learn from those who've done it and want to become the go to expert in your space, you're in the right place.

[B]

Today's guest is Dr. Whitney Wright, but he's given me permission to refer to him as Whitney. But we had to give him the proper respect because when you get a degree, he's a specialist dentist in his former life. I don't know. Do you practice anymore, by the way? Welcome to the show, doctor.

[C]

Thank you, Mitch. I couldn't be. I couldn't be more excited to be on the show. Thank you. And yes, please, just call me Whitney. If I put braces in your face, go ahead and call me Dr. Wright. But otherwise, just call me Whitney. I'm an. I'm an orthodontist. I'm no longer practicing. I actually retired from that in 2016.

[B]

And what caused that decision?

[C]

It was kind of decided for me as my panic attacks forced me out of my own clinic. I was experiencing severe anxiety, depression, ptsd, and ultimately I had to stop practicing because my body decided to stop cooperating with me.

[B]

That's a. That's a lot to unpack. May I ask here you were. You were running a practice. I presume it was profitable. You went to school for umpteen years, not just to become a DDS or a dmd, but. But then you went to specialty school to become an orthodontist, which I imagine is another two, three years.

[C]

It is, yes.

[B]

Yeah. And then you rise to that level. So you are a specialist running a practice. And then tell us what happened, if you would be so kind.

[C]

Well, yeah, I mean, it wasn't just running a practice. We started a dental support organization in 2011, and we had 27 practices across four, six states. And one of my roles as the founding orthodontist and the chief clinical officer was to start each practice, get it up and running, and then turn it over to the next guy or gal. And I was in 14 practices in five years, and, man, it was unreal. And I did. I did 7,000 orthodontic starts, which is more than an orthodontist normally gets in his entire career. So I did that in five years. And by building this business and pushing past all of my red flags and just thinking that I was indestructible, that I was The. You know, the unstoppable doctor. Right. I. I soon learned that wasn't actually correct. I am stoppable, and I'm very stoppable.

[B]

But you have the right name.

[C]

Exactly. So you would think I couldn't resist going forever. I love it. I love it. So you think I could keep going forever, but I. I couldn't. And I had to actually step away from the profession only five years after graduating from my program because I had burned so bright and so hot, and then I burned out.

[B]

Did you feel any guilt or shame about this? Because I would imagine your dental school bills were quite high. I don't know if you had the assistance of your parents or there were loans or. Or a combination of those. I mean, tell us about that if we. If you don't mind getting the nitty gritty.

[C]

Yeah, no, I'd love to, and I talk about it in my book as well, but I. I completely funded my own education. My parents didn't help me at all with that. When I graduated from my orthodontic residency, I was $475,000 in debt.

[B]

Pretty normal.

[C]

Yeah. By the time we had paid it off, it had grown to $585,000. Thousand dollars. And so, well, I am debt free, thanks to Dave Ramsey, including our home, you know, but that was something that was. We really had to work at that. But. But becoming financially free was part of my own recovery. And so, yeah, it was brutal because we bootstrapped this business. We started from the ground up, and we never had any private equity, and we built it all ourselves, me and two other partners. And. And to have to walk away from that created tremendous shame, tremendous guilt, because it was who I was. It was my entire identity. And now I'm no longer able to function in that capacity. It was rough. Oh, man, I was tore up from the floor up, Mitch. It was bad.

[B]

And are you married?

[C]

I am. We've been. My wife and I've been married for 22 years, and we have three children.

[B]

And how supportive were your family members with this change with dad?

[C]

More than. More than I deserved. They were phenomenal. They were phenomenal. In fact, what happened was I stopped practicing in 2016. I continued to run the business and keep recruiting and all of that, and the panic attacks then found me again. So I stopped practicing 2016 due to panic attacks, and they found me again in 2019. And my psychiatrist said, whitney, if you don't stop, you're going to die. Like, right now, it's panic attacks. Pretty soon, it's Going to turn into heart attacks. And I refuse to see you any longer unless you check yourself into a 30 day facility to get better.

[B]

Wow.

[C]

My wife and I talked about it and we decided that was exactly what needed to happen. So we told the kids and I packed my bags and went to a facility in Southern Arizona called sierra Tucson for 30 days. It was the hardest thing, but the best thing of my life.

[B]

Did you reboot completely as a result of this 30 day program? Has your life changed or have there been ups and downs?

[C]

I mean, there's, there's been ups and downs definitely along the way. But what that 30 days gave me was the opportunity to see what was driving me, what was the fuel, the impetus behind my workaholism, what holes in my life in my past was I trying to fill with accolades and the next achievement. And it turns out there was some childhood trauma that I was having to deal with. There was some codependency that I had to deal with. And all of those things kind of created the perfect storm that led me into just driving myself into the ground. So by being there for 30 days, we were able to unpack that, process it, move past that in my life. And now, I mean, I didn't go back to orthodontics. I, because I do still have PTSD involved there, but I no longer feel the shame, I no longer feel the guilt, I no longer feel the drive to crush myself under my own weight to prove who I am. Because now I love who I am and I'm enough. So it's been tremendously healing.

[B]

So when you say you're back to orthodontics, are you back practicing? Are you?

[C]

No, I'm. No, I'm. No, I'm not practicing. So I, I have since been able to practice. There was a couple of days that I've been able to go into the clinic, see 8,090 patients, not have any panic attacks. But I knew that I was flirting with danger. Okay. I just, I mean, I'm still an owner of my business, I'm still the co manager of the company, but I'm no longer practicing and I'm just kind of functioning in about a 40,000 foot level in regards to management. But I'm no longer in the trenches. As we say in dentistry, you're not tightening braces, no longer putting braces and faces, you know, Okay, I loved it and I saw a lot of patience and I'm good where I'm at now.

[B]

What, what is it that people do or what causes people to go into that Pit where it seems like it's impending doom.

[C]

You in? What do you mean that. That.

[B]

Well, all right, so you. You started to slide. You started to have the panic attacks. And, you know, I'm a recovered alcoholic of 41 years. And we refer to something. Yes, my greatest achievement in life, much more than any business. Thank you. But we refer to a rock bottom.

[C]

Yes. Okay.

[B]

All right. So that's the metaphor. Okay. There. You can't go any lower because you're at the rock bottom. You can either die, like you said earlier, or. Or you can come up like a phoenix out of the ashes.

[C]

Yeah. So for me, what it. I knew that I had hit rock bottom and that I had a choice to make. And because of the love and support of my wife and children, I knew I would do anything for them. Because traditionally, men are considered the protectors and the providers of the family. And in my role of protector and provider, I knew that I had to heal in order to best protect and provide for them. And so when I hit rock bottom, I knew there is no. There is no other option for me personally than to heal and go up from there. And sadly, that's not the case for everyone. And, you know, I was able to not get mired down with a bunch of coping mechanisms that turned into addictions. Alcohol, gambling, sex, or, you know, know all these other things that people can do to self medicate in the interim before they hit rock bottom. Luckily, I was able to stay away from those things and was just able to bounce back from my own mental health issues.

[B]

And you've written a book about this journey since you reached or you had descended into this rock bottom, and now you're reaching up and continue to rise. Show us your book, and please try.

[C]

I'd love to. I'd love to. It's called Men Under Pressure, A Man's Guide to Reclaiming Mental Health. And it's an Amazon number one bestseller. And it tells my story of being young with the name of Whitney, which was just fine until Whitney Houston went big on the scene, and then my life turned upside down. And it talks about some abuse that I endured and the fallout from that and just how I kind of hit rock bottom and came back. And it includes the story of 12 other men that also were able to come out from underneath the pressure. So this is just a guide to, you know, if you. If you're on your way to rock bottom, here's how you pull up from the nose dive. If you're at rock bottom, here's how you pick yourself up off the ground. Here's how you avoid it. And it's receiving really good reviews.

[B]

No, you're. Thank you for that. And I'll, I'll make sure to, to buy a copy myself because I've endured, like I said privately before we hit record on this, on this interview. I've had some of my own challenges in life, and I think that that's fairly normal. But, yeah, we as men, or us as men, I should say, have these challenges, but we rarely share them, as do the healthier sex of women who share more willingly. I'm making a general. And I'm sure the woke people are going to come after me after this call. I'm in big trouble. I see Nancy Pelosi right now in front of me.

[C]

You've done it.

[B]

Now I'm in such trouble.

[C]

The literature backs you up in that, that men are definitely way lower than women in regards to talking about and expressing issues and problems that they're having with their mental health. And I dove into that quite extensively in my book in regards to the stigma. You know, as men, we are taught from an early age, you just rub dirt on it. You don't cry, you don't show emotion. You just, you need to be tough. You need to this and that. And then people wonder why men struggle to share their emotions later on in life. It's because as protectors and providers, if we, if we open up and we're vulnerable about. Vulnerable. Oh, wow. Vulnerable about that. Oftentimes we're seen as less than or weak or broken or discardable, worthless. And that's the, that's the struggle.

[B]

Well, what is your research? Because I think you're a man of science and look at the data like I, I look at, I look at data before I make assertions. What do you believe as a man, a straight man. And I say that I'm gonna probably get in more trouble again. But as a man who's a family man with three kids and a wife, still married 22 years, living a productive life, and you look healthy moving forward, you're on the path of where you're going because it's a movement, it's a belief, it's a conviction. Do women hate us, resent us, love us more when we divulge these vulnerabilities? What is the truth of the data?

[C]

Yes, the answer is yes to all of those. And it depends on the relationship that you already have with that woman as to what stage they're going to hit. And it's possible that they can Hit all three of those stages. But ultimately, if they see you striving to succeed, if they see you striving to make a difference and change in your life, then it will go from resentment and fear into love and support. And so what they want to see is a man be vulnerable with their emotions and feelings, but then take ownership of them. If I were to say, I'm dealing with anxiety, I'm dealing with depression, and she says, great, what do you want to do about that? And I say, nothing, and I crack a beer, that's different than saying, well, I've spoken to a therapist. I've got an appointment on Thursday, and I think that I'm going to go and get my blood checked to see if my testosterone is low. Those are, those are two completely different answers. And one of them will give reassurance that I'm going to work on this, I'm going to become better. And that drives even further the love and the appreciation that woman has for the man that they've chosen because they're willing to do the hard things versus I'm just going to give up, and that's that.

[B]

I like the split one is the, the mask or the, the, the temporary solution or the temporary action is not a solution. Temporary action of I'm going to crack a beer and zone out, go into my man cave versus I'm gonna go and look at the science behind why I'm this way, look at my testosterone and see what the data reveals.

[C]

That's right.

[B]

That's so divergent and impressive because there are some medical reasons why we weep.

[C]

Oh, 100%. Absolutely.

[B]

Can you dig into that a little bit? Because you're a man of science.

[C]

Of course, of course. So if you run your car at high RPMs for a long period of time, your car is going to blow up, your engine is going to, you're going to throw a rod, Something's going to happen. Same thing with us. If we're running at high speeds and we don't really take time for ourselves, we ourselves blow up. And what I saw in my personal case was not only did I develop anxiety and depression, PTSD and whatnot, but adrenal fatigue. And your adrenals are little organs that sit on top of your kidneys that are in charge of creating cortisol and adrenaline. And if you, if your fight or flight response is always running due to PTSD or a high stress environment, then those organs can start to poop out a little bit and your ability to have hormonal regulation decreases and Then it creates this downward spiral where your body just can't keep up and you start to feel poorly and you start to say to yourself, well, how can I feel better? Well, I feel better if I'm taking a lot of caffeine or in the evening, if I'm drinking alcohol to come down, or if I'm looking at porn during the day. All of these things to help me feel like I still have some energy and whatnot, but it's just short lived unless you can get to the underlying issues of, of what's causing those problems. And that's where you'll find true healing.

[B]

Got it. Well, that makes. That ultimately makes a lot of sense. And you brought up all these. All right, I'm going to revert back to my original question.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

As a general. As a rule of thumb, when women categorically view men weeping, is that a. Do they categorically look at us as weak or depressed, or would they look at us favorably because we were willing to express this emotion?

[C]

That, that depends on the woman. That depends on each individual and how she was, how she was raised, the type of person that she is. Because obviously someone, a significant other can look at that and say, you're so weak. You know, what would I want to do with a man like you? And when I was struggling initially with my anxiety and depression, I didn't want to tell my wife because I was certain, Mitch, that she was going to see that I was weak and worthless and leave me for some tatted up, ripped alpha male on the COVID of some romance novel. Like, I was convinced. And when, when I expressed to her the difficulties that I was going through, I did weep. I was crying. And she's. And she said to me, whitney, I'm so glad you're sharing this with me. How can we help you get better? How can we, together as a team, help you get better? And that is the type of mindset that you're hoping to walk into. And you might, you might find out that the person that you're confiding in is lousy and they are going to judge you and you can't do anything about that. But in my book, it talks about boundaries. And if you find someone who is not respecting your boundaries, you might need to find someone else. It's just that simple. You know, like if, if someone's poisoning you, it might be time to walk away.

[B]

Yeah. You have to make that go, no go decision right there. And it sounds like you met, you married the right woman, not only tricked her real good, you did well. Yeah. Well, you know what I say in order if I'm with somebody, say about my lady that I'm with right now, and she's a bit younger and very attractive, and people say, how did you get her? I said, she's got poor eyesight. What can I say? I've never taken her to the optometrist. Never taken to their optometrist.

[C]

That's funny.

[B]

I like that. Yeah, I keep it real. I got her. I. I threw sand in her eyes. But before I met and that said, hey, you know, I look good. Trust me. And she was impressed by my squinting. Yeah, just keep squinting. I'll look good at any time. I'm not this tatted up, ripped up guy that.

[C]

Right, right. Yeah.

[B]

Well, yeah, it's changed over time.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

So what can the spirituality factor in now? I'm getting into waters. You're not supposed to talk about religion or politics. We'll leave the politics out of it. But does the spirituality factor into recover?

[C]

It did for me. And, and the reason I say that is because I've always been what I would consider a religious person. I've. I've been in clergy roles in my life. I've, you know, I've always been a religious. I believe God is our heavenly Father looking out for us. Okay. And one of the most successful programs in regards to recovering from addiction is.

[B]

Alcoholics Anonymous, which I'm a member of.

[C]

They have 12 steps. And the first step is we admitted.

[B]

We were powerless over alcohol, that our lives have become unmanageable.

[C]

That's exactly right. And then after that, it's turning it over to your higher power, whatever that is, whatever that is, it's turning it over to your higher power. And they. They'll oftentimes say, let go and let God. And when you know, or at least believe that there is more out there than just your own basic existence, that's helpful in regards to recognizing it's worth it to get better, it's worth it to heal. It's worth it because I have cosmic beings essentially who are rooting for me and want me to succeed. And that has been, at least in my instance, very helpful.

[B]

And so. So your connection to God helped you in this journey to recovery?

[C]

Of course, absolutely. Because I knew that I was receiving power greater than myself because I was powerless against workaholism.

[B]

Are you an A member yourself? Because you cited that.

[C]

I'm not, but I have multiple family members who are. Because addiction runs in our family.

[B]

Got it.

[C]

And they, and they opened that alcoholic you know, doorway and I've got siblings who are 20 years sober, 25 years sober. And so I know the, I know what goes into it and without that higher power I, I could not succeed because obviously on my own I'm struggling and I need outside help and he is always willing to help me if I'm willing to accept it.

[B]

Okay, well that's, that's awesome. Especially coming from a man of science because most of the agnostics slash atheists if you look at a percentage wise come from a scientific background. Look at it through the Darwinian lens and you know, it's interesting to hear that but faith is obviously important to you. Can someone who is a non believer or let's say like I live in Thailand, who are Buddhists and there is no concept of God, they'll look at you cross eyed when you start talking about God because it doesn't exist in their religion. It's about the powers all within. Can someone of the Buddhist faith or let's say agnostic faith or free thinking faith or faithless, who's a free thinker?

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Follow the guidelines of your book 100%.

[C]

If they're willing to believe there is a power greater than themselves, it doesn't have to be a being, it can just be mother Nature. Some power that is greater than themselves that is willing to lend them the strength to overcome what it is that they're currently dealing with.

[B]

I think of the commercial I saw a few years back From Ron Reagan Jr. Our late president had a son Ron Reagan Jr. Who, who I, who I, I knew him because he worked out at my taekwondo school years ago. We're talking the 80s when his dad was in, in power. And I could tell you a funny story about that. Ron was a great, a great guy, extremely articulate speaker and he was the spokesperson for the American Atheists. Society or association? I don't know if it's society or association in the US and he provided the commercial. You can look it up and see it on YouTube. It was quite famous around the globe about him talking about this. No, I don't believe in your God and I guess I'm going to burn in hell. And he made that statement at the end and it went viral. I mean yeah, million. Did you remember?

[C]

I, I, I, I, it's vaguely in there but I'm not sure that I can.

[B]

Okay, you can look at up Ron Reagan Jr. And you'll see that. And he was willing to state that. Now he was raised as I think Presbyterian or Episcopal. I don't Remember what Ron Reagan was, who was a believer. His father, Ron Jr. Went the other direction. And I think they're fine too. You know, I mean, that's what works. That worked for him. He. Maybe he pulled back. Because if you have an overbearing mother like Nancy Reagan, maybe that's.

[C]

Who knows, you're going to rebel however you can.

[B]

Right?

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

So it does allow for people who are of various beliefs. Let's just call it beliefs.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

And backgrounds.

[C]

100. 100. You know, it doesn't. It. What I talk about in my book. It's not, it, it's not. It doesn't preclude anybody, Anybody, including women, can have told me they've learned a lot by reading this book. They've learned about men. They've learned about the struggles that men face that they had no idea about. They learn about the pressures that they, that they go through, the stigmas and how frightening it is for a man to talk about those things or admit that you're having struggles. So anyone can read this book and walk away with something. And I've had men reach out and say, this book has changed my life. I was, I was headed towards suicidal ideation and now I'm pulling back out of that and seeing someone and recovering. So I mean, it, it really is. For anyone who knows a man under pressure, who loves one, who wants to.

[B]

Support one, or who is one, that's fantastic. Absolutely fantastic. And let me say this. The book is available on Amazon.

[C]

It is. It's available. Ebook, hard copy, paperback, also Audible. I recorded my own audiobook.

[B]

I was gonna ask.

[C]

All right. Yeah, it's. It's available in every format you can imagine except pop up book. I didn't make a pop up book. I could, I could possibly work on that.

[B]

How many words?

[C]

It's 51,000 words.

[B]

Right on the money. Yeah. My first published book was 50,000 words required. That was the benchmark 50 to 75,000 in 2008 when I was published with John Wiley and Sons. And that, that took a lot of work. I have since written many books, but much shorter. Seems like the consumption. But this is great. Is it an anthology or is. Or because you. Or just stories that are weaved into it.

[C]

It's. It's my history. It's. It's me growing up and I'll, I'll kind of weave back and forth, but I just, I tell my story and I tell the stories of other men included in that. But the way that the book is set up is it's kind of a Crawl, walk, run type of scenario where if you are struggling with mental health, if you're struggling with these things, here's a list of things you can do on your own to start getting better. If you're past that and you need more help, here's a list of things you can do to find help and get better. And if you need even more than that, here's a list of things you can do if you need more intensive care. So it kind of speaks to every different type of scenario and situation that you're in, regardless of sexual orientation or anything. This is literally for everybody. And what they'll find, you'll find is I've also created a, a workbook, a free downloadable workbook that goes along with it. There's supplementary reading suggestions at the end, there's self administered quizzes. So let's say that you possibly think that you have an issue with codependency. In the back of the book there is a codependency quiz that you can take and see whether or not, you know, this might be something that I'm struggling with and need to look a little bit more into. And so I try to give as many tools as possible so that men can heal and find that there is hope.

[B]

Show us the book again. Sure.

[C]

All right.

[B]

So they could see it. Men Under Pressure.

[C]

Under Pressure, A Man's Guide to Reclaiming Mental Health. And it's really has been receiving great reviews and I couldn't be more honored. I was just on Fox News talking about the book last week and where were you?

[B]

What? What? FOX News.

[C]

Fox News in Arizona.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

And I just. That's, that's just one of the instances of being able to share the book. And it's impressive because the more you start talking about this, the more people start coming out of the woodwork and they, and they'll say to me, you know, Whitney, I've been struggling, but I didn't know who to talk to about it. I didn't know how to talk about it. I didn't know what to do. But now I have this roadmap and I feel confident that I am going to get better.

[B]

Wow, great. Well, Dr. Whitney Wright, you've been a great guest. Thank you for your time. And it's available with Audible, paperback, ebook, hardcover. And is this the best way for them to get in touch with you? If they want to have you as a guest on their podcast, they can.

[C]

Go to my website, menunderpressure.com that's a way. Also, I'm on all sorts of the social media platforms Instagram @ Dr. Whitney Wright. But if you go to my website, you'll, you'll find it all menunderpressure.com well.

[B]

Dr. Whitney, thank you so much for your time today. You've been a great guest.

[C]

Welcome.

[B]

And I'm gonna buy, I'm gonna buy the ebook version because I think to ship it to where I am in Thailand will be quite expensive and I don't think I, I have to eat so I need money to eat and you don't want to see me.

[C]

I hear you.

[B]

So I'm gonna.

[C]

If you're in Thailand, you're eating well, that's for sure.

[B]

That's right. Great food. Well, thank you so much for your time today.

[C]

Yes, yes, thank you.

[A]

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