The Science of Better Putting: How Bob Labby Cut 14 Strokes Off His Game at 82

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Science of Better Putting — How Bob Labby Cut 14 Strokes Off His Game at 82

Podcast: The Amazing Authorities Podcast
Host: Mitch Carson
Guest: Bob Labby (Author, Retired Engineer, Inventor)
Episode Date: May 12, 2026

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Episode Overview

This episode features an insightful conversation with Bob Labby, author of Putting by the Numbers: A Quantitative Method of Lag Putting. Host Mitch Carson delves into how Bob, at 82, transformed his golf game by applying engineering precision to putting—eventually cutting 14 strokes off his round and reaching a 7 handicap. The discussion is rich with both practical methods for improving long-distance golf putting and broader life lessons about continuous improvement, problem-solving, and the enduring value of scientific thinking.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Origin of Bob’s Book and Method (01:19–03:18)

• Bob began golf in 1996 after retiring from his second company.
• Struggled with long-distance putting despite steady progress with other clubs.
• Created his method out of necessity, blending passion with analytical skills.
• Quote: “I needed to improve my long distance putting…my book is Putting by the Numbers. It's a quantitative method of lag putting. What's cool about it—it's accurate, it's repeatable, it's linear, and most importantly, it works.” —Bob Labby (02:12)

2. The Core Principles of the Method (04:48–08:20)

• The method’s pillars: Accurate, Repeatable, Linear, and It Works.
• Explains the concept of the Individual Power Factor (IPF): each golfer measures how far their ball travels per inch of putter retraction.
  • Example: On his home carpet, Bob’s IPF is 11 ft/inch; his wife’s is 7.5 ft/inch.
  • Adapts IPF for different surfaces: greens, fringe, fairway, rough.
• Emphasis on arithmetic calculation and mechanical predictability.
• Quote: "Everybody can be good with a putter if you're accurate, repeatable, linear, and it works. That's the key." —Bob Labby (07:10)

3. Adapting for Curves and Slopes (08:24–12:13)

• Bob includes adjustment for slopes and elevation in his method.
• Uses the plumb bob method to account for green curvatures.
• Shares a memorable story of sinking a 93-foot putt—credited by a friend as the impetus to write his book.

4. Impact and Results (13:37–14:30)

• Before: 40–44 putts per round, playing in the high-90s.
• After: 30.5 putts per round, now a 7 handicap at age 82.
• Significant, quantifiable improvement (10–14 strokes per round).
• Quote: “It actually improved my score 10 to 14 strokes a round, which brought me from the mid-90s... I'm a seven handicap at age 82 now.” —Bob Labby (14:19)

5. Teaching Others and Building a Legacy (15:08–16:13)

• Bob teaches friends and golf partners, with notable improvements in their games.
• “Lobby putt” becomes a term among friends.
• Shares how this method has impacted others’ enjoyment and performance in golf.

6. Broader Life Lessons and Scientific Mindset (21:39–25:51)

• The methodology is less about golf, more about problem-solving and applying engineering logic to life.
• Bob’s family background: three daughters (an entrepreneur and two in medicine), all successful and influenced by his planning and problem-solving approach.
• The importance of diagnosing before prescribing—a lesson that bridges golf and life.
• Quote: “I realize what the problem is and I identify the alternatives, I test the alternatives, I find the best solution, and then I apply that to the solution and make the product… That very problem-solving mentality is the whole way I walk through life.” —Bob Labby (23:52)

7. Invention Outside of Golf (17:56–19:43)

• Bob is also an inventor: created and patented “the only drink coaster in the world that works,” designed to collect and contain condensation.
• This segment demonstrates his lifelong habit of using engineering to solve everyday problems.

8. On Age, Activity, and Positive Living (26:43–29:50)

• Bob’s philosophy: Stay active and mentally engaged—“Don’t let the old man in,” quoting Clint Eastwood.
• Reflections on enjoying life, continuous growth, and the power of role modeling for family.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “It's accurate, it's repeatable, it's linear, and most importantly, it works.” —Bob Labby (02:13)
• “Everybody can be good with a putter if you're accurate, repeatable, linear, and it works.” —Bob Labby (07:10)
• “That was a heck of a putt. No, that wasn't lucky…I saw what you did and you need to write a book.” —Anecdote relayed by Bob Labby (10:12)
• “It actually improved my score 10 to 14 strokes a round, which brought me from the mid-90s... I'm a seven handicap at age 82 now.” —Bob Labby (14:19)
• “Diagnose before you prescribe.” —Mitch Carson (25:17)
• “Don't let the old man in.” —Clint Eastwood, quoted by Bob Labby (27:08)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 01:19 — Why Bob wrote his book and origin of the method
• 04:48 — Breaking down the four pillars: accurate, repeatable, linear, and it works
• 06:56 — The science of putting: Individual Power Factor explained
• 08:30 — Accounting for green slopes and curves / Story of the 93-foot putt
• 13:37 — Before vs. after: Bob’s putting stats and handicap transformation
• 15:15 — Teaching the method to others; “Lobby putts”
• 17:56 — Bob’s patented invention: The ultimate drink coaster
• 19:43 — Returning to putting by the numbers: demonstration and speed of use
• 21:39 — Applying engineering logic to life and business
• 26:43 — Staying young: “Don’t let the old man in”

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Lessons & Takeaways

For Golfers:

• Anyone can improve their putting through a repeatable, scientific method.
• The method is adaptable, fast to implement, and proven by real results—even late in life.

For All Listeners:

• The real “science” behind improvement: Diagnose, test, refine.
• Problem-solving skills translate from career to passions and to personal life.
• Age and background are not limitations to achieving mastery or making significant change.
• The importance of active living, learning, and positive mindset well into later years.

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Further Information

• Book: Putting by the Numbers: A Quantitative Method of Lag Putting by Bob Labby (Available on Amazon)
• Demonstration Videos: Included with the book—both in-home and on-course

Contact: For more info, visit MitchCarson.com

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Bob Labby's journey is a testament to a life spent solving problems, iterating on process, and applying passion with precision—on the greens and beyond.

Transcript

[A]

Welcome to the Amazing Authorities podcast, where game changers, visionaries and category leaders share how they built their brands, platforms and global influence. Your host is Mitch Carson, international speaker, media strategist, and creator of the Instant Authority system. If you're ready to learn from those who've done it and want to become the go to expert in your space, you're in the right place.

[B]

Bob Lobby is an author out of passion, and he's here with us today from a terrible location. He's got no ocean view. You're just staring at walls. And I mean, the dream life, if you will, is. Is right here on the ocean in Florida. Bob, welcome to the show.

[C]

Well, thank you, Mitch, for having me. I look forward to our discussion.

[B]

Yeah. And you, you've written a book on golf. Not. It's not a professional move. I mean, some people write books to grow their career, to use it as a lead generation funnel. And then some people write about the passion and, you know, the old adage, you know, everybody's got a book in him or her. And why did you write your book and tell us what the name is?

[C]

Okay, well, I, I wrote my book because I needed to improve my long distance putting. I was a terrible long distance putter when I started playing golf in 1996. And I went off, my partner and I had just retired from our second air pollution control company, which we sold. And we agreed in 1996 that because both of us loved the game of golf, but because we were so busy in our business, we never played it with any regularity, so we never were very good. We agreed that we would go take lessons and become golfers. And so we did. And for that ninth year of 1996-97, I went up to Maggie Valley, North Carolina, took some group lessons with the PGA pros up there, and got pretty good at the game with 13 of the 14 clubs. But that 14th club, the putter, was my nemesis and I had to get better at that. And that's why I developed this method and ended up writing the book. Because my book is Putting by the Numbers. It's a quantitative method of lag putty. And it, it really, what's cool about it, it's accurate, it's repeatable, it's linear, and most importantly, it works.

[B]

And so I love that, I love that string of words you put together. Would you say that one more time? Because that's, that's the nugget.

[C]

Yeah, it's, it's a great method because it's accurate, it's repeatable, and it works. Okay.

[B]

That right there is the whole show. I mean that's the whole, the whole crux of your book. It sounds like.

[C]

And that's Right.

[B]

And what's the name of your book?

[C]

Putting by the numbers.

[B]

Putting by the numbers. Okay.

[C]

And then the subs, the subtitles. A quantitative method of lack buddy.

[B]

And how do you spell your name since we're able to see that on the screen?

[C]

Yeah. L A, B B, E. All right,

[B]

so that makes it easy.

[C]

It's Lebe in French, but we. Anglo Saxon, I said when we moved over here in 1886. So it's a lobby like a hotel now.

[B]

Okay. Well, I knew it was. It was European. I wasn't sure if it was Japanese or Chinese, but we'll go with French.

[C]

Thank you. Yeah, my parents would appreciate that.

[B]

Yeah, we'll stay with French.

[C]

Well, okay, now you.

[B]

But here's what's interesting. You're writing about your passion. We learned about a little bit in our pre call discussion about your professional expertise and background. Owning the different companies and you sold them and then, then retired and why not? You're living your. You put in the hard work and now you're. You're reaping the rewards of working hard, living on the beach with a beautiful view. Just watch out for the gators because you are in for.

[C]

And.

[B]

And you're doing it. But that is a valuable lesson, I would say, as a business metaphor, isn't it?

[C]

Yes, absolutely.

[B]

Accurate, repeatable. And.

[C]

And it works.

[B]

And it works. Act active. Active or action active or accurate? Accurate.

[C]

Accurate.

[B]

Accurate, repeatable and at work.

[C]

Well, it's actually accurate, repeatable, linear, and it works.

[B]

Okay, would you break those down for us? Because those are great. Like I say, that is the crux of what the book is about. Yes, and. But it's a great metaphor in life, isn't it?

[C]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, it is.

[B]

How to condemn yourself. And we're a strategy.

[C]

Exactly. Well, the thing that's cool about the method and what I've come to realize, even I watch PGA golf Thursday through Sunday every week. And I was watching the players tournament this weekend and I see these golfers that play golf six or six out of every seven days of the week. And they're outstanding. They're Quantum leaps of U.S. amateur and recreational golfers. But when it comes to long distance putting, I think I have a methodology they need to put in there. Need to. Need to put another tool and their bag of tricks so that they got 13 clubs that they're fabulous with. But that putter Everybody can be good with a putter if you're accurate, repeatable, linear, and it works. That's the key. So in my book, I explain why this method works. It's a quantitative method. Everybody, when they take their putter, they, they, they rock their shoulders. Everybody does that, okay? And that's what I call your individual power factor. And everybody's in debit. Everybody has a different individual power factor. Because on my carpet downstairs in my basement, I have a indoor outdoor carpet that I can put 50ft on and I can putt my ball. And it'll go 33ft with a 3 inch putter retraction from the ball and then striking through the ball. So the IPF or the individual power factor is 11ft of travel or 1 inch of retraction. My wife's IPF for our downstart carpet is 7 1/2ft per inch of retraction. You take this individual power factor, which is your individual power for the stroking of the ball, and everybody's is a little different. And you take it to the golf course. Okay, you probably go to the, you go to the, you go to the golf course 30 minutes before your tee time, you go out in the practice screen and you practice striking the ball and seeing how far it travels for a given putter retraction. Then you write that number down. Like most courses that I play in, ball travels 20ft for every inch of retraction. When I'm putting on the green, I'm putting on the fringe. Normally, it's about 7ft of travel per inch of retraction. For the fairway, it's the same about 7ft per inch of retraction. And on the first kind of rough, it's about one and a half to two feet per inch of retraction. So you add those numbers up, and that gives you the compound formula for what you take to the golf course. And then you can calculate arithmetically any putt in every, any situation you are around the green. And that's what makes. It's a simple method of force friction based on physics and engineering mechanics. But I've simply, I've simplified it down. Just pure arithmetic. And that's why it is that accurate, repeatable linear system that works. That's what's so cool about it. And anybody can use it.

[B]

Well, does that take into account,

[C]

you

[B]

know, curves in the green or slopes in the green?

[C]

Well, that's in my book, too. Okay, you. For different elevation changes, whether upward or downward. I have a graph in the book that shows you how to adjust your retraction distance to accommodate those things. Now, I'm not, you know, I, I'm not trying to teach how to putt. I'm trying to teach how to putt long distances accurately. So I use the plumb bob method myself for determining the curvature of the putt. And it works pretty handily for me in that last year, my average, I had 30.5 putts per 18 hole round. Last year for all the, all the rounds I played, I played about 50 rounds last year, so I averaged about one a week. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, and so with that said, when I, when I wrote this book, I was using 40 to 44 putts per 18 hole round. My spirit was, my putting was killing, okay? That's why I wrote the book. I had a friend of mine, Mike Beck, when I was playing the, the R.T. jones courses in Alabama, we were in Opelaka, Alabama, and I had a 93 foot putt that had to make on a three tier green, okay? So I stepped it off and studied how much curvature was. Boom. I hit, I retracted my putter and the ball went in the hole. And, and my, and I said, Mike said to me, he said, that was a heck of a putt. And I said, yeah, it was lucky. He says, no, no, he said, that wasn't lucky. I saw what you did and you need to write a book. Well, that was in 1998, okay. And I put, I took that to heart and we went out, we went to lunch after the morning round and he convinced me I should write a book. Okay. But I said, well, I've got time to do that. I'm playing golf, you know, so, but anyway, the years, the years went by and I, I would, I would had to be sure that the, the method was repeatable. It was accurate, reproducible and linear. Okay? And so through the years, I made sure that as an engineer, the system really worked. And it wasn't just, you know, it wasn't just nonsense and it really, really does work. And now I'm putting, I'm putting close to the level of putting that they do on the, on the professional tour. But they're a lot better than I'll ever be. And never. I'm not in their league, of course, but what I am is I, I'm trying, I think what I'm trying to do here, Mitch, is to take this methodology and say, hey to a PGA instructing pro on a golf course and say, hey, read my book, take a look at that and if you like it, I'll Come to your golf course, and we'll. I'll spend a day or two with you, showing you the method, and then teach this as another part of the tools that they have in their golf bag when they're playing. Because on Sundays, when I watch these pros play, they're excellent because they play six or seven, six out of every seven days, and they're superior athletes in the first place, but they. They screw up a lot of long putts when the pressure's on. And my method is mechanical. Okay. You don't have to think about. You add up the numbers, you say, okay, I got to do the stroke. Boom. And I use my individual power factor, and it will put that ball within 3 to 5 foot of the hole virtually every time if it doesn't go in the hole.

[B]

I love that because, like you said, you are. You're pulling on a nuance of the game, the long putt, and using a scientific method that you say is repeatable. So it's. It's science. It's not luck.

[C]

Right.

[B]

And I don't think putting's luck, because there are good patterns, good putters, and bad butters.

[C]

That's very true.

[B]

The short game was the bane of my golfing experience. I mean, I could hit a ball very far off the drive and, you know, decent with my. My irons. But when it got into putting, that's what separates the men from the boys in proverbial sense. It's like, okay, the pros versus the people that take this. That's the sweet science, I think, of golf.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

And isn't that a metaphor of life, is getting into the details? It's almost like the devil's in the details. And you took.

[C]

Yeah, that's right. You.

[B]

You revealed the devil. Okay, here he is. He has his. He has his cape on. And. And, you know, you don't have to deal with them because I've told him to go away. Because now you have the sweet science. I've. I didn't mean to go biblical, but that was. That was just an accurate way of looking at it. I like the accuracy component. So how many? So it is. I want to break down the numbers again. So what were you scoring before you exacted this method?

[C]

Well, I was doing pretty well with the 13 clubs in my bag. From the. From the driver all the way to the pitching wedge. I was doing fabulous. I was shooting. I was hitting maybe 50 to 54 strokes. You should be more in the range of like, 44 to 48. In that range. I was 50, 54. But I was hitting 40 to 40 for 40 to 44 putts. It was put my score up 90, 99. I was playing in the, the mid to high 90s.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

And it was killing me. It was killing me. I had to get my putting even. If I just got my putty down to 36 strokes per round, I, I would have been in, in the high 80s, low 90s, which have been a great improvement.

[B]

That's a significant difference.

[C]

Yes. So anyway, it actually improved my score 10 to 14 strokes around, which brought me from the mid-90s.

[B]

Wow.

[C]

I'm a seven handicap at age 82 now.

[B]

Wow. Seven handicap folks who aren't golfers. Let me, let me illuminate what he just said. A seven handicap is great. I think pros are under what they call scratch, meaning you are right at the course minimum, but you're seven strokes above. That's huge. Especially.

[C]

Yeah, the, the pros are all they got. Plus handicaps, they're down plus two, plus three. You know, they're, they're, they're under, under par, you know.

[B]

Well, that's what they do for a living. This is a, yeah, a maybe a passion slash hobby. And you didn't start this when you were a boy. You got into this as a, as

[C]

a 52 year old man. Yeah, yeah.

[B]

So. Okay, that's, that's, that's profound. So have you been able to teach this method to others?

[C]

I have, I've had a number of friends, a number of competitors that have watched me play over the last 25 years and I've, I've shown them how to do it. They, they've got copies on that book. They read it, I've gone out and played with them. I have a, one of the fellows in my foursome that we go out, he, he, he makes a putt that's 20ft off the green and it's a 60 foot putt and you make it. And he said, I said that was great putt, Jim. He said that's a lobby putt. Okay.

[B]

Oh, I love it. I love it.

[C]

And so it makes me feel good to know because Jim was not a very good putter. But, but by the time he read my book and we talked about it and he, he employed that method, he's a very good putter. Now. He, he's putting around 32 to 36 putts around. So compared to his plus 40 before, he's gained a lot of strokes. Wow.

[B]

That's, that's. Oh, well, hence the reason you wrote the book and have you had any television exposure about this? Has anybody. I know you're good. Doing the podcast tour. Yeah. Watch out for those mosquitoes. Yeah, I know you're on the podcast tour.

[C]

Yeah, the, the only television that I've been exposed to is, was way back last March. I'm trying to think. Gee, I can't think of the. It was a podcast setting, but it was televised. Okay.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

And, and it was a, it was a sports show, and then I had a great television production with Sid Benisaw of Ben Salah in Stockholm, Sweden. Okay. He did a television show with me and he's, he broadcast on YouTube and all the other networks around.

[B]

So you went to Sweet World. You went to.

[C]

No, no, I, no, I did it on, on a, on a, on a virtual.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

On a screen. You know, we did a zoom call type of thing on a. On a computer. Yeah. So, yeah, but I've been doing radio and television zoom call type stuff with. I probably have done 25 to 30 at this point, you know, and I have a, I have five. See, I have, I wrote a book putting by the numbers that we're talking about. I also invented a, the only drink coast in the world that works. And this is called the ultimate drink coaster. And as I say, it's patented. It's the only one that worked. I invented that back in 23.

[B]

When you say it works, what do you mean it works?

[C]

Well, you know when you get your glass and it condensates rolling down the wall, you're setting your glass on there and that condensate gets, is conveyed, collected and contained in this coaster with this grid top and these capillaries on it. So we, so we, we, we convey, collect and contain the condensate in the, in the, in this pan that holds 2 ounces of condensate. You can have a cold drink all night. And then when you're done, you just take your coaster and you take it and take it and dump it in the sink and you're done. You throw it in the dishwasher if you'd like. But that's, that's another invention. I do podcasts on, on this invention too.

[B]

All right, so it doesn't drip. For example, I'm, I, My water is on a coaster right here. That's right here.

[C]

Right.

[B]

So this is flat. And you. Yours. It's a lot cleaner. So it doesn't. The, the, the drippings go into the coaster.

[C]

Into the coaster. See here, here's a, here's a, here's a ceramic coaster here. Right. And here here's my coaster. And my coaster is a grid that has a pan that collects the condensate so it doesn't get on your clothes or your furniture. Okay. Well, gosh, that's what makes it forever

[B]

the engineer, aren't you?

[C]

I like right now what I'm doing is, you know, I'm looking for. This was a pet peeve of mine that I got started in 20, 20, 23 at my daughter's house. And, and that's how that got started. It's now I patented, it's patented domestically and internationally and my daughter and son in law run that company.

[B]

Okay, now let's get back to your putting by the numbers. Can you demonstrate this?

[C]

Oh, absolutely. All right. As a matter of fact, if you buy my book, there's two demonstration videos with it, an in home video and an on course video. I show you exactly how it works

[B]

and how, how long does it take to measure or to exact the method when you're on the putting green? Because that could be very annoying to people behind you. It's like, how long is this guy taking before I can do

[C]

my method of putting will actually equal or less time than a normal person putting? Because when you go to the game with my method in your head, you know exactly what you're going to do. You do the arithmetic, you're moving, you're, you're making the same effort, but you know, you have a plan as to how you're going to execute that putt. And so I actually, I think I actually putt faster than most people that are putting on the green.

[B]

You see, that'll be the first question that comes to mind because, you know, like I said, I golf for about a dozen years and, and then I haven't in a while, but that was where some people got impatient behind you and you could, it could result in, in a clash when people want to drive and there's still people on the green. So it doesn't take any more time. It lessens their time.

[C]

It is, it can be more, it can be more time effective because when you go to the green with this, with this methodology in your head, you know exactly what you're going to do. You know, you know, you know you're going to step it off, whether you're going to shoot it with your range finder to see the distance or you're going to step the distance off and you walk, you know, you walk on the other side of the flag to see the, the slope of the grain and you got a plan. And when you Got this plan you can execute very quickly.

[B]

That's outstanding. Well, well, putting by the numbers and Bob, that is a for. For golf enthusiasts, but I think there are other lessons is you've broken it down into chunks and making it, like you say, linear. So there is science to improving. Well, isn't there science to improving your life as well? If you check a certain box and if you wouldn't mind, because you're, you've revealed your age. I mean, sometimes it's rude to ask elderly people, how old are you? But I mean, as a man, I don't care. I'm 65 and I'm. I'm comfortable with my age. It's like, okay, I've got Medicare and I don't care. But I.

[C]

Well said. Well said.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. I'm at the point where, hey, you know, you got a few years on me, but I'm still in the senior citizen status. And my, my view is, okay, if I can leave the planet and help another person with what I do with whatever. My inborn natural skill sets are acquired skill sets, because I think that is acquired and there's some natural. And yours, you're obviously a good engineer because you have that engineering mindset. And how have you been able to apply that in your personal life? You mentioned you had a daughter. Do you have more than one? One kid?

[C]

Well, I have three daughters. Yeah. Okay. I have one daughter that is partners in nine restaurants in Atlanta. Okay. She's a real entrepreneur and she's a hard worker and she's in her mid-40s now, and she's the entrepreneur that kind of takes after me in a sense. And then the other two are in the medical field. One's a nurse practitioner, the other's a physician's assistant. And they both are very successful at what they do. And I think one of the things, the takeaway in being being my daughters and my association with. We have a very close relationship is they, they have seen me travel, traverse through life and, you know, running, starting and developing and selling three different air pollution control companies and, and growing one, each one a little bit bigger than the one before. They saw the natural progression and the plan. So they've seen that I'm a very planning person. You know, I'm a problem solving person. I realize what the problem is and I identify the alternatives, I test the alternatives, I find the best solution, and then I apply that to the solution and make the product, so to speak. That very problem solving mentality is the whole way I walk through life and virtually everything I do. And that includes playing golf.

[B]

Well, and that's why you wrote the book, because there was a problem and you looked at scientifically through that lens of science and math. Well, math is a subset of science, isn't it? And then applied it and then created this methodology that anyone can use to improve their, their golf game. But I like the life lesson in that as well. I like the life lesson. What's the spillover to apply to my life? Diagnose You. And it's no, it's no accident that you have a nurse practitioner and a PA as daughters and, and they probably learn those lessons from you. It's like, okay, diagnose before you prescribe.

[C]

Right.

[B]

And isn't that true?

[C]

It's very true. And they're both very good at what they do and they enjoy. It's just like I, as I spoke with you pre, pre our conversation, I, I enjoyed my career so much. I never felt like I worked. It was just fun. It was fun. And playing golf is fun too. But you, everything that's fun, you got to be at least pretty good at. And I never, I knew I could never be as good as these tour golfers, but I tried to improve myself to the best level I could be and, and that's basically what I've done.

[B]

Well, why don't you now tackle the problem of not being able to dunk when you're under six feet? And I think it's a perfect. You'd be a great case study of an 82 year old to learn how to dunk, Bob. That's the next task in front of you.

[C]

Well, that would be, that, that would be one I'd have to really think about.

[B]

You know, I think you could, I think you could get on the TV shows internationally if you're able to solve that, that small issue. I mean, I'm giving you a challenge here, Bob. Yeah, learn how to dunk for anybody. 82 plus.

[C]

82 plus. Sometimes I have a hard time getting off the couch.

[B]

Well, you know, dunking. Why not? You know, some people say it's never too late. You know, age is just a number.

[C]

It's true.

[B]

Is there any truth to that? Have you found any limitations other than. Well, you know, I'm being a little bit fun with that question.

[C]

Yeah, yeah. No, I'll say this, Mitch. I honestly believe that keeping busy, keeping your mind busy, keeping your body active, walking and talking and thinking and participation in virtually anything, keep moving. You know, it's just like, like Clint Eastwood said, don't let the old man in. Okay.

[B]

Yes, he did say that. I thought that was a gem. Yeah, he's 90 something, isn't it? He's called.

[C]

He's at 96. I think he's gonna be 96 this year. Okay. And I'm trying to think the. The country artist that wrote the song Don't Let the Old man in that died two years ago in February. Oh, gosh. Oh, it's shameful. I can't.

[B]

It wasn't Johnny Cash.

[C]

No, he died. This fellow was 62 years old. Oh. And he died two years ago. I think it was February 1st. And I am. He's a. I'm a great fan of his and I'm having trouble reaching out for his name at the moment. But anyway, he wrote the song that based on Don't Let the Old man in. And you can look it up and you'll. You'll find out who the artist is. But gosh, isn't that something? I can't. I can't think of his.

[B]

Well, it'll. It'll come up later. I mean. Yeah, we look it up. So with one more time for your book, because we don't have a. We'll make sure that we have a copy that people can see where to go and buy it on Amazon. And putting by the numbers with Bob Labby. You've been a great guest today. And many of those lessons, it's just diagnose, prescribe, and then maybe tweak and improve a little bit until you get down that. The sweet science of not just golf, but it's life, isn't it? It's like it is how you. If you lived your life under this method.

[C]

Well, I have tried to. And I've sometimes. Sometimes I've tried to keep it between the two lines of the road. And most of the time I did. I haven't run off the road very many times. Well.

[B]

And that's great. Well, I. I think you also had to live by a good example because you have three daughters to raise.

[C]

Absolutely. I had great parents. One of. One of the things I think key to everybody is having great parents. And I had really great parents. My mother was an educational pusher. My dad was a great athlete. And between. Between the two of them, I learned a lot from both of them.

[B]

Well, that's great. And I guess you took on that role with your daughters because they're all three successful today.

[C]

Yeah, that's very true.

[B]

And doing that. And you're. And you're married.

[C]

Oh, yes, I'm married. My. My wife, my wife and I both lost our first, our first spouses. And we got married 20 years ago in Cabo San Lucas at the chapel at Pueblo NATO Sunset beach. And we've been married for 20 years now. And so we've been very, very happy. And look for, I don't know if we got another 20 years in it, but we're going to give our best shot.

[B]

Well, that's all you have to do is one shot at a time, one stroke at a time to get, get, get it in the hole. Well, Bob, you've been a great guest today. Thank you for being an amazing authority on your topic, putting by the numbers and all the life lessons that encompass living, you know, a successful life. I mean, you're 82 and you didn't whine once about aching knees or any of these things that happen as we get older. It's all about the positive and moving forward. And that's right, keep the driver out. Keep driving.

[C]

That's right. That's right. Mitch, I want to thank you. Thank you so much for having me.

[B]

All right.

[C]

I appreciate this conversation. All right.

[B]

Have a good day.

[A]

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