Episode Summary: Viral Pages & Bestseller Dreams — Shanti Hershenson on TikTok, Teen Authorship, and Building a 50,000-Book Empire
Podcast: The Amazing Authorities Podcast
Host: Mitch Carson
Guest: Shanti Hershenson
Date: November 4, 2025
Overview
In this episode, host Mitch Carson sits down with Shanti Hershenson, a 17-year-old prolific fiction author who has published 21 novels (out of 37 written) and sold over 50,000 books—primarily through TikTok-driven marketing to her Gen Z peers. The discussion explores Shanti’s journey as a teenage author, her family and educational background, her book-writing and editing process, and deep dives into the practicalities of publishing and marketing as a young creator. Shanti breaks down her strategies for platform-building on TikTok, leveraging advanced readers, building fan engagement, and what aspiring writers should expect from the journey.
Key Discussion Points & Insights
Shanti’s Early Journey and Family Influence
- Starting Young:
- Shanti began writing and self-publishing at just 12 years old. Her love for storytelling started even earlier in elementary school, making hand-bound books for fun.
- “It's been a constant throughout my entire life... I couldn't even really tell you, like, when it started or why, but... from my earliest memories, I was really enthralled by books and this ability to create.” — Shanti (01:57)
- Shanti began writing and self-publishing at just 12 years old. Her love for storytelling started even earlier in elementary school, making hand-bound books for fun.
- Family Background:
- Her father runs a software company; her mother is a retired magician—a blend of logic and creativity that deeply influenced her.
- “Both my parents are very creative in their own ways... they both exposed me to a lot of storytelling really early on.” — Shanti (03:09)
- Her father runs a software company; her mother is a retired magician—a blend of logic and creativity that deeply influenced her.
- Sibling Dynamics:
- Shanti has a fraternal twin sister who's also creative (visual art, jewelry, psychology), highlighting the independent paths siblings can take.
- Support Systems:
- She credits supportive friends and teachers but mentions often hiding her author identity to keep relationships authentic (06:47-08:23).
Writing, Editing, and Learning
- Writing Process:
- Shanti’s process evolved from mimicking what she learned in school essays to gradually finding her creative voice. She hired a writing coach/editor early, which was crucial for her growth.
- “I had no idea what I was doing. I was just like, okay, I'm going to sit down and I'm going to write, and it's going to be a book” — Shanti (19:54)
- “I met my writing coach, who's also my editor, and we have been working together ever since. That was really great.” — Shanti (21:53)
- Shanti’s process evolved from mimicking what she learned in school essays to gradually finding her creative voice. She hired a writing coach/editor early, which was crucial for her growth.
- Editing:
- She does multiple rounds of self-edits, then works with her editor twice a week for both developmental edits and proofreading (04:49).
- “There's always one little thing... because my eyes are so used to reading one thing and... how it was supposed to be that I might not even notice the typo.” — Shanti (05:13)
School, Friends, and Social Perceptions
- Educational Path:
- Senior at a private high school, taking honors and AP classes—she prefers humanities courses (06:11-06:43)
- Shanti and her twin attend different schools suited to their unique learning styles (18:13-18:45).
- Social Dynamics:
- Friends are supportive; she describes a shift from being bullied less after becoming an author (08:23).
- Occasionally faces amusement or teasing for her writing, but shrugs it off in favor of creative fulfillment.
The Business of Books: Selling 50,000 Copies
- TikTok & BookTok:
- Shanti attributes her rise to leveraging TikTok during the BookTok boom. She specifically notes the importance of understanding where her audience lives: “TikTok is for teenagers... it becomes this direct way to connect with my audience and the people who are reading my book and who maybe want to write their own.” — Shanti (10:38)
- Sales Breakdown:
- Over 50,000 books sold, with roughly 49,000 as eBooks and 1,000 as paperbacks (13:41).
- “Ebooks dominate for me.” — Shanti (13:41)
- She does not yet have audiobooks aside from a single experimental one (15:11).
- Over 50,000 books sold, with roughly 49,000 as eBooks and 1,000 as paperbacks (13:41).
- Pricing and Revenue:
- Shanti uses ebook discount promotions to expand her reader base, focusing initially on readership over profit (12:16).
- Earnings are modest per book; she plans to raise prices as her brand grows (32:17).
- “I make a couple cents per book. That's going to change. Right now my prices are lower to try to optimize the sales and I am planning on at some point probably upping the prices by a couple of dollars.” — Shanti (32:17)
TikTok Shop, ARC Readers, and Reviews
- TikTok Shop Limitation:
- Not eligible for TikTok Shop yet (minimum age is 18), but sees it as a powerful mechanism for book sales, including nonfiction (16:05).
- ARC (Advanced Reader Copy) System:
- Uses TikTok and social media to recruit ARC readers who already show interest in her content—this creates pre-release momentum and review volume (25:08).
- “The best ARC readers for me are the people who would be reading my book even if they didn't get it for free.” — Shanti (25:08)
- Uses TikTok and social media to recruit ARC readers who already show interest in her content—this creates pre-release momentum and review volume (25:08).
- Importance of Reviews:
- Describes reviews as “the most important thing” for sales traction and credibility (25:58).
- Content Marketing:
- Book marketing starts at ideation—she’s constantly thinking of shareable moments, TikToks, and unique hooks (23:17).
- “It starts the moment I write the first word, if not before that... What posts can I make? How can I use this book to, like... send a broader message?” — Shanti (23:17)
- Book marketing starts at ideation—she’s constantly thinking of shareable moments, TikToks, and unique hooks (23:17).
Platform Building & Email Lists
- Approach to Platforms:
- Shanti dabbles in Quora and Reddit but prefers more direct connection platforms (30:15). She currently uses Patreon for exclusive releases (30:27).
- Is curious about Substack but hasn’t started one yet.
- Patreon Experiment:
- Using Patreon to serially release an unusually large YA novel to test reader interest and earn incremental income, but notes adoption is slow (30:50).
- “It's a little difficult to get people to commit to paying a certain amount of money per month to read a single book.” — Shanti (31:21)
- Using Patreon to serially release an unusually large YA novel to test reader interest and earn incremental income, but notes adoption is slow (30:50).
The Craft: Covers, A+ Content, and Market Fit
- Book Covers:
- Covers are pivotal for reaching and persuading her audience. She invests in professionals who understand both design and what sells on Amazon.
- “Having that magnetic, that interesting book cover, it makes such a difference... readers do judge books by their covers.” — Shanti (27:49)
- Covers are pivotal for reaching and persuading her audience. She invests in professionals who understand both design and what sells on Amazon.
- A+ Content:
- Sees A+ content (enhanced product description on Amazon) as a valuable add-on, not a substitute for a strong description and visual branding (26:42).
Advice for Aspiring Young Authors
- Just Start—It’s a Process:
- The first step is sitting down and writing, then seeking mentorship/coaching for growth and refinement (19:54-21:53).
- Learn the Business:
- Think about marketing strategies from the outset; ARC readers and reviews are vital.
- Be Ready to Persevere:
- The work is not done when you upload your book—the “real work” is marketing and community-building (22:28).
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
- “Why are you so lazy?... Could have been earlier. Yeah, I should have done it at 10.”
— (Playful banter, Mitch & Shanti, 01:33–01:39) - “TikTok is for teenagers. That's the main audience... it becomes this direct way to connect with my audience.”
— Shanti (10:38) - “Ebooks dominate for me.”
— Shanti (13:41) - “It's the most important thing. [Reviews]”
— Shanti (25:58) - “Having that magnetic, that interesting book cover, it makes such a difference... readers do judge books by their covers.”
— Shanti (27:49) - “It starts the moment I write the first word, if not before that, the moment I have an idea. I am constantly thinking... what posts can I make? How can I use this book to... send a broader message?”
— Shanti (23:17)
Important Timestamps
- Background and Early Storytelling: 01:03–03:29
- Family Influences and Sibling Dynamics: 02:38–04:08
- Editing Process: 04:49–05:33
- School, Teachers, and Friends on Her Writing: 06:11–08:23
- Bullying and Social Experiences: 08:23–09:03
- TikTok/Book Marketing Strategy: 10:05–12:44
- Sales Metrics and Pricing: 11:30–13:41, 32:05–32:17
- Audiobook Potential and Market: 13:13–15:47
- ARC Readers and Reviews: 24:42–26:15
- Book Covers & A+ Content: 27:49–28:33
- Platform Choices (Patreon, Quora, Reddit): 29:16–31:21
- Advice for Authors/First Book Struggles: 19:35–21:53
- Marketing Mindset from Ideation: 23:17–24:42
Key Takeaways
- TikTok is a powerful and direct promotional tool, especially for young authors targeting their peer group.
- Building a meaningful readership can require pricing flexibility and focusing on reach over immediate profits.
- Community engagement (ARC readers, reviews) and strong visual branding (covers) are vital for indie author success.
- Early and ongoing mentorship (editors, coaches) provides a growth track and professional polish.
- For any author, the “real work” really begins after writing and uploading—marketing and audience development are continuous processes.
- Even at 17, authority and expertise can be built by consistency, experimentation, and authenticity.
This episode is a must-listen for aspiring teen authors, anyone interested in TikTok’s effect on publishing, and those curious about the entrepreneurial side of fiction writing in a digital-first world.
