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Today I’m talking with my friend and former client, Karen Shatafian, about the real behind-the-scenes journey from “I don’t even know if I want to coach” to becoming the woman who helps other women say the truth out loud.We get into the messy middle of reinvention, the good-girl conditioning that keeps women quiet, and why “divorce coach” was a necessary chapter for Karen, but not the whole story. This is a conversation about reclamation, about the second half of your life belonging to you, and about what happens when your why gets louder than your fear.Karen is also celebrating a big milestone by opening 30 free conversations for women who feel that inner nudge for more, whether that’s divorce, a career shift, a relationship reset, or just the feeling that your life doesn’t fit anymore.Karen’s Links:IG: https://www.instagram.com/karen_shatafian_coachWebsite: karenshatafian.comBook a free coaching call (“The Reclamation Call”): https://calendly.com/karenshatafian_lifecoach/the-reclamation-callDrinks with the Girls Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/drinks-with-the-girls/id1755458197?i=1000745756354📈 Want my eyes on your business? Then book a Business Audit! No matter where you are in your business, I'm here to support you around your strategies and growth! Let's chat!https://travelingwildwoman.as.me/audit🤓 Grab my Anti-Hustle Business Checklist! Find out exactly what you need for where you currently are in your business.http://www.antihustlebiz.com👀 Find Me Online🌍 Website: https://shannonwhaley.com📘 Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/shannonkwhaley🌈 Join My Free FB Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/antihustlebusiness📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theshannonwhaley/

This episode started as a completely unplanned recording and turned into one of those conversations I knew needed to be shared. Siobhan and I were already deep in it, talking honestly about business, work, energy, and what it looks like to evolve when the old ways stop fitting.We talk about something I’ve been noticing in my own life and business lately... How easy it is to be incredibly organized, focused, and accountable when I’m working for a client, and how slippery that can get when it’s just me running my own business. I share how my “anti-hustle” values swung a little too far into a lack of structure, and how that showed up in my income, my programs, and my motivation.Siobhán reflects on her own journey building and refining her work over years, not months. We talk about what it really takes to develop a signature offer, why repetition and refinement matter more than constant reinvention, and how listening to your audience can lead you somewhere better than what you originally planned.We also get real about the parts of business people don’t love to talk about. Accountability when no one is watching, the temptation to hide in backend tasks that feel productive but don’t actually lead to clients, and the vulnerability of putting yourself out there consistently. We explore how consulting and done-for-you work can create stability and relief, while still leaving room for coaching, creativity, and growth.This conversation is for anyone who feels like they’ve gone a little too far in the name of ease, is craving structure without burnout, or is in the middle of a pivot they didn’t see coming. If you’re willing to stay curious, follow what’s working, and allow your business to evolve with you, this one will land.Connect with Siobhan Gallagher:Website: https://www.siobhangallagher.co/Instagram: @siobhan.gallagher.coachLinkedIn: Siobhan Gallagher📈 Want my eyes on your business? Then book a Business Audit! No matter where you are in your business, I'm here to support you around your strategies and growth! Let's chat!https://travelingwildwoman.as.me/audit🤓 Grab my Anti-Hustle Business Checklist! Find out exactly what you need for where you currently are in your business.http://www.antihustlebiz.com👀 Find Me Online🌍 Website: https://shannonwhaley.com📘 Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/shannonkwhaley🌈 Join My Free FB Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/antihustlebusiness📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theshannonwhaley/

In this episode, I’m talking about the pause — and why it wasn’t burnout, failure, or a lack of discipline. It was information.I share why I stepped away from the podcast without a plan, what it felt like to have nothing to say, and why I refused to force content just to stay visible. This season has been about learning the difference between moving through resistance and honoring true misalignment.I talk openly about mental health, perimenopause, and starting hormone replacement therapy — and how regulation, not numbness, changed how I move through stress, endings, and uncertainty.You’ll hear reflections on losing a major contract without imploding, trusting that what’s meant for me won’t miss me, and what’s quietly coming back online behind the scenes.If you’re in a season where pushing feels heavier than it used to, this episode is your reminder:Sometimes the most anti-hustle move is to stop — and trust what comes next.📈 Want my eyes on your business? Then book a Business Audit! No matter where you are in your business, I'm here to support you around your strategies and growth! Let's chat!https://travelingwildwoman.as.me/audit🤓 Grab my Anti-Hustle Business Checklist! Find out exactly what you need for where you currently are in your business.http://www.antihustlebiz.com👀 Find Me Online🌍 Website: https://shannonwhaley.com📘 Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/shannonkwhaley🌈 Join My Free FB Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/antihustlebusiness📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theshannonwhaley/

Welcome back to the Anti Hustle Business Podcast. This season is all about storytelling, honesty, and letting real humans share what it actually looks like to build a life and business outside of hustle culture — especially when things don’t go according to plan.In this episode, Shannon is joined by returning guest Jelan Agnew — licensed clinical social worker, award-winning keynote and TEDx speaker, and someone who is living proof that sometimes everything has to fall apart before it finally clicks. They talk candidly about what 2025 has been like behind the scenes, from business slowing down to identity shedding, sobriety milestones, and choosing purpose over performance.Jelan shares how she’s leaned into university and college speaking after realizing her TEDx talk was already opening the right doors, why she’s stopped forcing offers that don’t want to exist, and what it really takes to land speaking gigs (hint: it’s not passive). The conversation also goes deep into sobriety, recovery, and the freedom that comes from finally seeing the life you built — and deciding whether you actually want it.This episode is honest, funny, grounding, and deeply validating if you’ve felt like nothing is working the way it used to… and maybe that’s the point.Press play to hear Jelan’s full story, what she’s creating now, and why trusting the unknown might be the most anti-hustle move there is.Connect with Jelan & explore her work:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nalejofself/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jelan-agnew-lcsw-tedx-speaker-88053710/TEDx Talk: https://www.ted.com/talks/jelan_agnew_black_folk_mental_health_generational_trauma_traditions_and_truth?utm_campaign=tedspread&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=tedcomshare📈 Want my eyes on your business? Then book a Business Audit! No matter where you are in your business, I'm here to support you around your strategies and growth! Let's chat!https://travelingwildwoman.as.me/audit🤓 Grab my Anti-Hustle Business Checklist! Find out exactly what you need for where you currently are in your business.http://www.antihustlebiz.com👀 Find Me Online🌍 Website: https://shannonwhaley.com📘 Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/shannonkwhaley🌈 Join My Free FB Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/antihustlebusiness📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theshannonwhaley/

In this episode, I’m dismantling the myth that I’m “fearless.” I’m not. I’m anxious, overthinking, sweating, spiraling — and I still do the thing anyway. I share the story of moving to the Cayman Islands while my face was literally swelling shut from stress, and why that moment taught me the truth: courage isn’t calm. Courage is action inside chaos.You’ll hear how every big chapter of my life — sobriety, starting my business, naming abuse, going no-contact, moving across the world — terrified me. None of it came from confidence. It came from doing it scared because the impact mattered more than the fear.I talk about the women whose stories saved me, why I chose to become that woman for someone else, and how my storytelling has helped people leave abusive marriages, get sober, break cycles, and choose themselves — not because I’m fearless, but because I refuse to let fear win.I also break down why you can’t compare your Year 1 to my Year 12, and what actually builds bravery over time: nervous system regulation, self-trust, boundaries, community, and taking one small risk at a time.If you’ve been waiting to feel “ready,” this episode will remind you:Fearlessness is a myth — bravery is a practice.Doing it scared isn’t the exception. It’s the path.📈 Want my eyes on your business? Then book a Business Audit! No matter where you are in your business, I'm here to support you around your strategies and growth! Let's chat!https://travelingwildwoman.as.me/audit🤓 Grab my Anti-Hustle Business Checklist! Find out exactly what you need for where you currently are in your business.http://www.antihustlebiz.com👀 Find Me Online🌍 Website: https://shannonwhaley.com📘 Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/shannonkwhaley🌈 Join My Free FB Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/antihustlebusiness📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theshannonwhaley/

In this episode of the Anti-Hustle Business Podcast, we’re breaking down what it really takes to grow to consistent $10K months without burning out or piling more on your plate. Scaling isn’t about doing more—it’s about doing less, better. I’ll walk you through the four core areas you need to strengthen to scale with intention: a clear, scalable offer, a content system that actually converts, a sales process that feels good and works, and the nervous system capacity to hold more without breaking down. You’ll learn how to create sustainable growth that feels spacious, strategic, and fully aligned—so your business works harder for you, not the other way around. Grab the Anti-Hustle Scaling Checklist to see exactly what to shift, simplify, or strengthen to hit your next income level without adding more stress. https://shannonwhaley.myflodesk.com/scale📈 Want my eyes on your business? Then book a Business Audit! No matter where you are in your business, I'm here to support you around your strategies and growth! Let's chat!https://travelingwildwoman.as.me/audit🤓 Grab my Anti-Hustle Business Checklist! Find out exactly what you need for where you currently are in your business.http://www.antihustlebiz.com👀 Find Me Online🌍 Website: https://shannonwhaley.com📘 Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/shannonkwhaley🌈 Join My Free FB Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/antihustlebusiness📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theshannonwhaley/

In this episode of The Anti-Hustle Business Podcast, we’re diving into why regulating your nervous system is the real foundation for sustainable success. If you’ve ever struggled with burnout, self-sabotage, or inconsistent income—even when you’re doing “all the right things”—this conversation is for you. I break down how survival mode shows up in business, why strategy alone isn’t enough, and how to gently rewire your nervous system so you can hold more clients, visibility, and income without collapsing. This is the work that makes growth feel safe, easeful, and sustainable.✨ Nervous System Reset Audio + Journal Prompts - A free somatic grounding tool to expand your capacity to receive and rest. Download it here: https://shannonwhaley.myflodesk.com/reset📈 Want my eyes on your business? Then book a Business Audit! No matter where you are in your business, I'm here to support you around your strategies and growth! Let's chat!https://travelingwildwoman.as.me/audit🤓 Grab my Anti-Hustle Business Checklist! Find out exactly what you need for where you currently are in your business.http://www.antihustlebiz.com👀 Find Me Online🌍 Website: https://shannonwhaley.com📘 Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/shannonkwhaley🌈 Join My Free FB Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/antihustlebusiness📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theshannonwhaley/

n this episode of the Anti-Hustle Business Podcast, we're cutting through the niche drama and getting crystal clear on what it actually takes to create a niche that pays. If you've ever struggled to explain what you do, hated marketing yourself because your work is "too deep to define," or resisted niching because you didn’t want to box yourself in — this one’s for you. We’re breaking down why clarity isn’t limiting, it’s liberating — and how a clear niche helps your dream clients recognize themselves in your words. You’ll learn the 3 ingredients every profitable niche needs. Plus, we’ll cover the most common mistakes that keep coaches and creatives stuck — like being too vague, too clever, or too scared to choose. By the end, you’ll walk away knowing how to define what you do, who you help, and why it matters — so your people can actually hire you. 🎯 Grab the free Profitable Niche Clarity Worksheet to map your niche, offer, and ideal client in 3 simple steps!https://shannonwhaley.myflodesk.com/niche📈 Want my eyes on your business? Then book a Business Audit! No matter where you are in your business, I'm here to support you around your strategies and growth! Let's chat!https://travelingwildwoman.as.me/audit🤓 Grab my Anti-Hustle Business Checklist! Find out exactly what you need for where you currently are in your business.http://www.antihustlebiz.com👀 Find Me Online🌍 Website: https://shannonwhaley.com📘 Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/shannonkwhaley🌈 Join My Free FB Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/antihustlebusiness📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theshannonwhaley/

Are you stuck in the cycle of doing all the things but still feeling like your business isn’t actually growing?In this episode, I’m breaking down the game-changing mindset shift that took me from overworked freelancer to empowered CEO. We’re diving into the key differences between freelancer energy and CEO energy—and why this distinction matters for your income, your capacity, and your long-term success.If you're ready to stop trading time for money and start building a business that actually supports your life, this one’s for you.Get the CEO Self Assessment free offer and step into your CEO energy now!https://shannonwhaley.myflodesk.com/ceo-self-assessment📈 Want my eyes on your business? Then book a Business Audit! No matter where you are in your business, I'm here to support you around your strategies and growth! Let's chat!https://travelingwildwoman.as.me/audit🤓 Grab my Anti-Hustle Business Checklist! Find out exactly what you need for where you currently are in your business.http://www.antihustlebiz.com👀 Find Me Online🌍 Website: https://shannonwhaley.com📘 Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/shannonkwhaley🌈 Join My Free FB Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/antihustlebusiness📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theshannonwhaley/

In this episode of The Anti Hustle Business Podcast, I’m sharing how to build a content plan that actually supports your business—and your nervous system. If you’re tired of scrambling to post or feeling like content is a never-ending chore, this conversation will show you a better way. We’ll talk about why most content calendars fall flat, and how to create a sustainable system that aligns with your goals, your energy, and your offers.Ready to stop DIY-ing and finally feel in control of your content? Join us inside of Marketing Magic—my 4-month done-with-you content strategy program where we map out 90–120 days of aligned content together. Check out Marketing Magic here: https://shannonwhaley.com/marketingmagic📈 Want my eyes on your business? Then book a Business Audit! No matter where you are in your business, I'm here to support you around your strategies and growth! Let's chat!https://travelingwildwoman.as.me/audit🤓 Grab my Anti-Hustle Business Checklist! Find out exactly what you need for where you currently are in your business.http://www.antihustlebiz.com👀 Find Me Online🌍 Website: https://shannonwhaley.com📘 Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/shannonkwhaley🌈 Join My Free FB Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/antihustlebusiness📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theshannonwhaley/