01/08/2026: THE MINNEAPOLIS ICE SHOOTING...

Summary

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The Antihero Broadcast

Episode: 01/08/2026 – THE MINNEAPOLIS ICE SHOOTING...

Date: January 9, 2026
Theme: News and entertainment focused on veterans, first responders, and blue-collar Americans, exploring the controversy and consequences of the Minneapolis ICE shooting, federal policing, and U.S. geopolitics.

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Overview

This episode dives deep into the recent controversial ICE-involved shooting in Minneapolis, with the hosts leveraging their law enforcement and military backgrounds to unpack the incident, its legal/moral complexities, and the broader challenges of federal versus local law enforcement. The panel also takes notable detours into the changing roles of U.S. security agencies, parallel foreign policy developments, and the cultural and political reactions across the spectrum. The tone is irreverent but insight-rich, aimed at an audience of veterans, LEOs, and informed civilians.

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Episode Breakdown

1. Host Intros, Injuries, and Show Rituals

Timestamps: 00:00-08:00

• The cast opens with ribbing and updates: Mike limps into the studio with a blown-out knee (“my knee is the size of a cantaloupe,” Mike, 02:54), but presses on out of show loyalty—mocked satirically as an act of the utmost valor.
• Bantz about sponsors, rituals, and why “peer pressuring” and “gaslighting” Mike to stick around is tradition.

Fun quote:
“I climbed in. I have a walker and a cane and I drove here.” (Mike, 02:54)

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2. Latest: The Minneapolis ICE Shooting

Timestamps: 08:14-41:00

Incident Background

• The recent shooting by ICE agents in Minneapolis is dissected frame-by-frame, with hosts reviewing video clips (not played on air) and debating the actions from both cop and civilian perspectives.

Key Video Moments

• The suspect (a woman in a car, dubbed “cat lady” and “Karen”) attempts to flee ICE agents, is shot twice by an agent, and is killed.
• The panel scrutinizes each camera angle, questioning if the agent “created his own jeopardy” (i.e., put himself in danger to justify force).

Law Enforcement Analysis

• Tyler/A (host, ex-LEO):
  “That is not a good shoot...he put himself there to detain the car with his body. The car attempted to evade...didn’t look like it went towards the guy...” (13:16)
• Mike/B (host, ex-LEO):
  “I don’t believe that's officer-induced...she’s backing up...he’s just standing there.” (14:20)
• Jimmy/C (host, veteran):
  Offers military-comparison (traffic control points in Iraq) and invokes 3rd perspectives.

Generational & Political Divide

• The hosts lament a cultural climate where (they argue) government and media have “taught a generation” not to comply with police, viewing this as a root cause.
• Discussion of how DHS and federal agencies are operating on federal standards, which are different (often more forgiving to LEO) than state/local procedures.

Memorable moment:
“She gets in this situation, you, me, Louis, everybody else in the world goes: a federal agent told me to stop – I’m stopping...she is raised by a party and has a city government...telling them they don’t have to listen to the police. That’s bad advice.” (Mike, 16:11)

Federal vs. Local Dynamics

• Detailed insight on how federal use of force standards and protections operate, especially during joint task force/warrant operations.
  “If you shot somebody, you are covered by the feds.” (Mike, 20:09)

Meme-able Moments & Racial Optics

• Dark humor about how this isn’t a “John Tavius with three warrants” shooting, and how the racial dynamics played into the media coverage and community response.
• “Thank God it was a Karen this time.” (C, 27:16)
  “Every badge is saying...thank God he wasn’t black.” (A, 27:22)

Broader Takeaways

• Consensus: If this were a local cop, it would be “a bad shoot” and locally “would be prosecuted.”
• Reflection on the hazards of federalized policing and the prospect of increasing state/federal conflict, including the Minnesota governor threatening to mobilize the National Guard against federal agents (“Dude, this is like a video game.” A, 38:08).

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3. Law, Policy & Case Law: Immediate Fallout

Timestamps: 44:28-53:00

• Discuss Felix v. Barnes (fictitious case, per transcript timeframe—“2025 Supreme Court”): an officer’s decision to shoot is informed by the ‘totality of the circumstances,’ not merely the split-second of danger.
• Speculation about the pretext and initiation of the stop—lack of transparency and the need for rapid, clear comms during high-tension incidents.

Quote:
“Were they at a checkpoint? Is she the subject?...What were they there for? Why was her vehicle turned like that?” (A, 46:11)

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4. Broader Federal Power, Political Fractures, and the Venezuela Situation

Timestamps: 60:09-67:38

Geopolitics Discussion

• Satirical rundown of the U.S. “taking over” Greenland (“Baron Trump marries Princess Isabella”) and the military actions in Venezuela, Cuba, etc.
• Frustration with government creating “power vacuums” and repeated regime-change failures:
  “We created a vacuum. We trusted the people that said they were going to come in and run it.” (A, 65:54)

Venezuela & Special Operations

• The hosts speculate on more U.S. airstrikes, the chaotic political transition, and the U.S. role in “peaceful” (and not-so-peaceful) foreign interventions.

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5. Niche/Law Enforcement/Community Banter & Open Q&A

Timestamps: 78:44 onwards

• Real-time reflection on their role as “bridge” between intelligence wonks (Ryan McBeth, “nerds”) and the boots-on-the-ground/working class listener.
• Riffing on their own bona fides—how Jimmy’s deep-dive research balances Tyler and Mike’s field experience and skepticism.
• “I think the guys from...that was Kosovo. Them dudes that got captured by Milos. Fix dudes. That was Bosnia. Okay.” (Jimmy, 95:52)

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Notable Quotes & Moments

Law Enforcement Insight

• “This is a generational problem you’re going to continue to see: an entire party...tells citizens they don’t have to listen to the police.”
  — Mike, 21:19

Dark Humor and Satire

• “I want Russia to win [after seeing NATO’s pop-dance parade video as a 'threat']”— A, 88:03
• “The memes going around right now...the protests are forming into one giant Karen vagina.” — C, 61:55

Political Edge

• “If local law enforcement had been doing that...it might have been two different people in those pairs of boots that would have known ‘hey, this isn’t a good time to shoot somebody’...I would assume [fed agents] don’t have as much time on the street...” (A, 21:28)

Legal Precedent

• “Felix v. Barnes...now it’s the totality of the circumstances, including events leading up to the incident, not just the incident itself...” (B, 45:04)

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Key Takeaways

• Split Reactions:
  The panel is divided, and insists reasonable people can be, too: there’s no clear “right” answer in these fast-moving use of force incidents, especially with muddled jurisdiction and incomplete facts.
• Federal Overreach vs. Local Failure:
  The Minneapolis incident is used as a lens to question whether state cop “failures” have justified, or merely invited, increased—and sometimes dangerous—federal policing.
• Legal Complexity:
  Recent legal changes (“Felix v. Barnes”) mean officers’ actions are now judged on the situation as a whole, not just that instant, which may work in favor of ICE.
• Street Wisdom Trumps All:
  Real-world law enforcement experience (and common sense) is often at odds with both rigid legal standards and inexperienced federal practice.
• Culture War Subtext:
  The hosts argue that perceived official apathy to law enforcement (“You don’t have to listen to the police”) directly breeds chaos and tragedy.

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Memorable Timestamps

• 09:00–10:00: Panel analyzes video of the shooting, noting agent tactics and use-of-force escalation
• 13:16: Tyler’s assessment: “That is not a good shoot…”
• 17:19–22:04: Federal protections and their impact on local/state accountability
• 27:16: Racial/optical aspect: “Thank God it was a Karen…”
• 38:08: Governor calls in the National Guard against federal agents—“like a video game”
• 45:04: Felix v. Barnes and effect on officer use-of-force reviews
• 61:55: Protests “forming into one giant Karen vagina”
• 88:03: NATO threat video mockery: “I want Russia to win.”

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Summary & Listener Value

This episode is a must-listen for anyone invested in law enforcement, military affairs, or the sociopolitical fallout of police shootings. The hosts, with their characteristic bluntness and gallows humor, expose the layers of legal, practical, and moral ambiguity in high-profile shootings—while grounding these debates in lived experience and realpolitik. With sidetracks through current U.S. foreign adventures, cultural memes, and the proper way to wrap a busted knee, this is a rich, unpredictable tapestry aimed at thinking Americans who want to go beyond cable news soundbites.

Transcript

[A]

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[B]

You nailed it, dude. I was waiting.

[C]

That was good.

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[B]

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[A]

We appreciate it. Mike's. Mike's hurting. Mike tour might have torn.

[B]

Mike did.

[A]

Mike did something I so I need.

[B]

My knee replaced and it's been bad. I've been pushing it off and last night I'm walking the dogs and I feel just a little pop in my knee and I'm like ah, whatever.

[C]

It's bad.

[B]

And Went to bed and woke up at like 1am and my knee is the size of a cantaloupe and I can't walk, so I didn't want to miss the show. I had my stepson move the car into the garage. I climbed in. I have a walker and a cane and I drove here.

[A]

So you did it.

[B]

It's bad. I've. I've watched a football player. I told Jimmy, I watch these football players go down on the field, like non contact. I'm like, this man, look at this guy laying on the field holding his knee. It is excruciating pain. And I didn't know it was this bad. I thought it was just like a football thing.

[A]

We're all gonna peer pressure Mike into staying the entire day. But then once we gaslight. Once we peer pressure, we're going to gaslight him into. Why would he stay and just watch that turmoil in his brain?

[B]

Walk the out like I normally do. Right out the door, dude.

[A]

Yeah. We have a couple meetings today and another podcast to do. And then. And then our night shift tonight at 8pm on Counterculture Inc. And Anti Hero YouTube. Don't miss that. That's a good time. Beers be flowing.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But while we wait for everybody to get in, we're obviously going to talk about. I. I think shootings get controversial and split down the middle. But this one is one of those where it's like. But some reflections. There's only one. It's the Hilton one. We posted. We did. We posted the Hilton. We talked about the Hilton canceling the rooms for all the Department of State agents or ICE or Department of State bottom. But it was ICE agents or whatever. And we didn't. We covered it the next day, but I didn't cut a reel to the day after that. So it was already kind of old news. But apparently people responded and said that Hilton as a. As like the International Hilton cut ties with that franchise.

[B]

Maybe because I saw one of the comments like it was wrong or they were. They were allowing them in. But there was somebody who did an undercover op, went in, surreptitiously videoed the clerk and he's like, no, we're not taking anybody from ice. That was like the next day. So he confirmed with that clerk. Now did they next day maybe cut ties? Because I know they're all franchised and all that.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But it was confirmed the next day that the needle dick behind the counter that definitely voted for Walls and Harris.

[A]

Said they're not that did that particular Hilton franchise back. That clerk was it just that he said.

[B]

Yeah, he. No, he said, you can call my boss. Like, the owner. Well, I mean, they're not gonna let them in.

[C]

The news all over the place is that Hilton drops the Minneapolis hotels over the canceled ice book.

[A]

Okay, that's. Yeah, that's what I saw, too. Yeah, I saw it in the comments from somebody. But you have to realize that by the time news comes out and then we cover it, which is pretty quick now because we broadcast every single day. By the time I put a short out, it might be the next day. And by, you know, the way the news travels and rumors travels, I mean, that's just how it goes, so.

[B]

Yes, but it is what it is. I mean, it happened. And you're up. What does he do? He's up all Saturday, Sunday. What night is he up all night doing? Friday night, he misses the show. So Friday night, you cut all your reels. So there's some of them.

[C]

Some of them are older, at least. Now, Mike's not going anywhere. Like, I call him up. That motherfucker's icing his knee somewhere.

[A]

No. Yeah, he ain't going nowhere.

[C]

You ain't getting away from us now. You should have seen me.

[B]

I did get out at racetrack on.

[C]

The way here, and I had to.

[B]

Get some coffee, and it was. I felt bad, man. I'm limping.

[C]

I'm putting my pockets.

[B]

I probably think I'm shoplifting because. Yeah, I'm sticking my pockets because I can't. I can't hold it. I got the cane in the middle, and I'm using it like a. Like a pogo. Come along. And I'm like, dude.

[C]

So I. You called me. So Tyler called me this morning. He's like, hey, dude. Just so you know, Mike popped his acl. I was like, I'll help him. I'll make sure he's okay. And then I. I went back in the back to take a leak. I come back up front, and Mike's coming through the door. I'm like, God damn it, dude, let me help you. No, man, He's. No. No.

[B]

Well, the reason. The reason I'm in, the condition I'm in is just that I've known. I've needed a knee replacement for about two years. I've been putting it off, and obviously it's weakening and weakening. And it wasn't acl. It was actually the bone that I'm having a problem with. And it's so wild. I've literally walked out with the dogs. I felt it. I'm like, yeah, my Knee always pops like that. Nothing significant. I went back in, I got up and pigged out at like midnight, went to sleep, and when I woke up at like 1:15, 1:30 in the morning, I had never. I had a hernia operation. I tore my ace. My meniscus once. This is the worst pain I've felt ever. It's so bad. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Still whip your ass.

[A]

So the reels are cut on Friday. So we do. We do two types of reels. I'll let everybody in on this. We do more serious current event reels that I try to get out in real time.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

But then there's just funny ass reels we do. Yeah. And I try to show like the com. Like the, the comedy, the good times that we have on the show. I try to also cut into reels as well. Yeah, those are easy. I, I usually do all of them at one time because it does. They're not time sensitive. Sensitive.

[B]

We don't fight as much anymore.

[A]

So I'm waiting for that.

[B]

We haven't had a good fight in a while. So everything's kind of like.

[A]

If there was going to be an argument, it'd be today with your.

[C]

No, no. I mean, he's, he's, he's probably pops a paid bill.

[A]

Then he's like, I can now beat your ass.

[B]

I don't have to do that.

[C]

I'll just throw.

[B]

You can't get off my lawn.

[A]

All right, man, we can get into it. Yeah. So yesterday. This occurred yesterday. It looked like a huge show because the first clip I saw yesterday pertaining to ice and I. I'm sure we don't have it, but it was, it was shared all around. We have both. Oh, we have the guy getting shot in the face with the.

[C]

Oh, you got, you got it.

[A]

Yeah, go ahead and send it to Lewis. But there was a guy that went for an ICE Agents less than lethal round. Man, I've been out of the game.

[B]

So long, I don't even know what that's.40 millimeter.

[C]

Yeah, it's a 40 millimeter.

[A]

See, people were saying, oh. At first it looked like AI because I thought the can would come out.

[C]

That's what I was expecting.

[A]

Kill that dude. But it just came out like powder.

[C]

I don't know what the that is.

[A]

You know what I'm saying?

[C]

I, I have no idea what that is.

[A]

But Brendan posted.

[B]

I'm gonna get it off BJ Cops.

[A]

So you can just send it to the Instagram. We can pull up.

[B]

I'll do it like this. Lewis knows what we got. Me and Lewis, are you guys. We got it.

[A]

Let's time.

[B]

When you guys are out, when you guys are out smoking, me and Lewis are in here getting ready.

[C]

We were, we were all concerned about, like, how do people know that we go smoking now? We know.

[B]

Oh, yeah. Like, as soon as you guys walk out, me and Lewis start telling everybody in the chat that we're both ready.

[A]

We got rituals, dude. We got rituals. We do our prayer. Me and Jimmy pray. You're a Neanderthal.

[C]

Me and God, he can't even get up.

[B]

I'm good with God, dude.

[A]

I can't go to church because my.

[B]

New Year, me and God are like this, man. We went to aerosol school together, dude.

[C]

I, I.

[B]

We went to aerosol school together.

[C]

I was, I was, I was in the comments. I went, I went live last night, right? And some and ja asked. He's like, why does Mike think air assault school is harder? And I was like, well, you know, it was the 90s and they had something to prove. Especially, did either of you go, yeah, I went to Arizona school.

[B]

Yeah, it was way harder than airborne school.

[A]

Everything's easier or harder or easier than airborne school.

[B]

All right, here's that video with the.

[C]

Okay, That's what I'm saying.

[A]

Like, how did a 40 millimeter.

[B]

It's not a 40 millimeter. That's some type of gas, like a.

[C]

It's not a straight.

[B]

No, it's a 40 mile on the ground.

[A]

You would be dead.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, that's a m. That's what replaced the 203.

[B]

That's a 40.

[C]

Yeah, it's a 40 millimeter grenade launcher, but it's not a grenade that's coming out there.

[A]

It's not like it's just powder.

[C]

Yeah, I guess.

[A]

Hey, show it one more time. I love. Me.

[B]

What the.

[C]

With me. Oh, he's got it.

[A]

Oh, yeah, you want.

[C]

He, he tried to take charge of that, take control of that weapon system.

[A]

So I'm sorry, everybody was commenting. Bro, hold me back, bro. Hold me back. Yeah, I can't see, but I is. I was asking if that was the same scenario instance that the shooting happened. It looked like the same type of neighborhood came out the same day. Watch it one more time. Sorry. I just want to look. I'm trying to look. It looks like the same area. How many?

[C]

Let'.

[B]

Maybe.

[A]

Okay, so first off, we have to decide how and why ICE is in these places. Why are they in suburbia? Why are they in the hood as federal agents? Are they detaining people Yeah.

[B]

I mean, there's immigrants all over, Somalians.

[A]

Everywhere, and I'm assuming that they're low. This is the reason why when local government does not work, they have to go in there and do this.

[B]

And that's part. When we watch the whole thing. That's part going to be. Part of my statement is the fact that the local government is responsible for what happened yesterday and all these problems.

[A]

All right, let's go ahead and play the footage. We'll probably watch it a couple times.

[C]

But let's kick this in slow motion.

[B]

So I think it's going to make weird noises, sounds like a cow. So we'll just remove that one, Lewis, and bring that 30 minute, 30 second video in and then turn the sound off because it just.

[A]

Does he know how to do that?

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Who knows how to do everything?

[A]

Can they hear us?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Okay. All right, so it goes back out. It goes to get away.

[B]

There's a shot through the windshield.

[A]

Clearly tries to avoid.

[B]

Now the second shot is a little questionable. Here's from the other side.

[A]

All right, so he shoots twice. Yeah.

[B]

Boom. He gets hit straight on.

[A]

Make us bigger, Lewis. Make. Pick somebody to be bigger. There you go.

[B]

All right, so that's gonna go again. Now that was the first angle that came out. Of course. It looks terrible. Looks terrible.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

The one that makes. Go back. Let's run it one more time. The one that. Go ahead and play it again. The one that makes. The best case for me is this one. Looks like I could defend it. The second angle after this one is the one that you can really see. He's. He's really not trying to put himself in front of her. Second shot is a little rough, but here he's just standing there and she decides to go forward and.

[C]

Yeah, that's. That's the one that I saw first.

[A]

Yeah. All right, so we'll hit it at face value as a cop.

[C]

You remove it, Liz, and May just.

[A]

Keep it up because we'll probably go back to it at face value as a cop. From what I know, from what I've in the last 10 years, I would say that that is not a good shoot. That would not in. In my. In local government, cops, cop work. That is. To me, it looks like he put himself there to detain the car with his body. The car attempted to evade that arrest. Didn't look like it went towards the guy, tried to curve. Right. And none of us could ever do that as local.

[C]

Well, remember we. We had that conversation because it's. That's what started the. The St. Pete riots, right? The guy was standing in front of a police car. The dude almost ran a dude over and got shot through the windshield. And you two both told me like, hey, you're the one that put yourself in that position.

[A]

He was hanging in front of a police car.

[C]

No, he, he was standing. The cop was standing in front of the, the detainees car.

[B]

I'm not, I'm not saying the shooting. I'm not going either way on this one yet. But I don't believe that's officer induced.

[A]

Why?

[B]

Circumstance. Because he's already. She's backing up. If you look at the very beginning of the video, her reverse lights are on. She's trying to back up. He's standing there. He doesn't get in front of her and go stop. She then puts it in forward and drives at him. From that second angle, you can see he's just standing there.

[A]

I don't see that. All right, pull it up again. Second angle. We'll watch the whole thing. I know, I see what you're saying. The first angle looks like she's very right.

[B]

Go ahead and go. Hit it. And it's the, it's the middle one. So it's. This will be the first one again.

[C]

So there she's in reverse.

[B]

He's just standing there. He didn't realize. She's going to go forward.

[A]

Wheels turn right. Her wheels turn right. He's trying to avoid.

[B]

He can't see that. He can't see that. He sees a car coming out. So watch this other angle. He's just standing there. He doesn't step in front. He's. And she's reversing. So as she's reversing, he's advancing towards the window with his partner.

[C]

Remember what I mean? I'm gonna, I'm gonna steal from Dominic. Going to steal from Dom without. And I want to make sure I quote him like other people won't do for me. But I'm going to do it for him because he changed my mind on this.

[B]

I know you're going to say too.

[C]

Yeah, you know exactly know say it's very, very likely. She's never been in that situation before. She's in a heightened state of emotional stress. She's trying now to get away and she lost her life because of it. And when Dom said that, I was like, I don't know. And I thought about it the rest of the night and I'm like, now that Absolutely.

[B]

He said that. And the other thing he said was an introducing the gun into a nine.

[C]

That was the other way.

[B]

And we've all done it.

[C]

I know.

[B]

You've pulled your gun on people, knowing damn well at the moment you pulled it. You cannot shoot them.

[A]

Yeah, but it's like another level in the use of force.

[B]

Correct. But if you do it in this situation. If you do it in this situation. Where I want to go with that, because I agree with you.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

When I said I wouldn't want to talk about it when we were.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Circle jerking here a little while ago. Is this cat lady.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Has been raised in a generation that has been told they don't have to listen to the police. They can scream and yell and cry. They can get whatever they want. She gets in this situation, you, me, Louis, everybody else in the world goes. A federal agent told me to stop. I'm stopping.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, I know. That's what I do.

[A]

That's true.

[B]

She is raised by a party and has a city government, the mayor, the governor, telling them they don't have to listen to the police. That doesn't. I'm not. This isn't about if it's right or wrong. This is. You have a Catwoman that was told throughout her life, she doesn't have to listen to the police. You have the government telling her she doesn't have to listen to police. That's bad. That's bad advice. That's like telling the dudes to do the. Hand the wallet. You know, hey, the next time you get stuck by the cops, quickly hand them your wallet. It's a bad. It's bad advice.

[C]

It's hard for me because, like, I've done tcps before where we were supposed to stop vehicles and on a tc.

[A]

Traffic control.

[C]

Traffic control points in Iraq, you know, when we were doing TCPs, like, if you looked like you were blowing the gate, it was lethal force.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

That's different, though. It's military.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

This is different, too. Local law enforcement.

[B]

I'm telling you now, we're gonna go to the next level. 100. This guy's cleared 100. He's not gonna get in trouble. It's already been put out by DHS on their.

[A]

We're so used. But we're so used to agency leaders like chiefs of police or sheriffs saying, he's in. He's clear. And then the other levels above that saying, oh, yeah. But what happens is a cop will go shoot somebody. It's. It's obviously a good shoot. The sheriff or chief will say, it's a good shoot. The state will then investigate it and say, yeah, it's good shoot. But if the district attorney wants to fry a cop, they're going to charge that cop here. There's no one else. I got just the state department going. Yeah, our guy's good.

[B]

I got a message from a guy who was involved in an OS at his agency and the feds and an officer was both shot. Fed was cleared, officer got fired. That's exactly. This is probably like I said, the. The level at state is so much higher when it comes to use of force and your responsibility, good, bad or indifferent. I'm not gonna argue that either but I am telling you DHS has already said on. On Instagram that this dude's.

[C]

Then you're making a case for federalized law enforcement for. For what? Instead like what was it that dog I'm here for?

[A]

It's already here.

[B]

But it's already.

[C]

It's already here. This is.

[B]

This is federalized law enforcement. But this is as a result local government.

[A]

This is federalized.

[B]

Yeah but the local government's not doing.

[C]

Their jobs which is making the case for Leo's should all be. It should be, you know, universal across the board. Yeah. I can't remember what Dom calls it but he talks about like hey we need. We need one standard across the board.

[B]

When I got caught, when I got sworn into the U. S. Marshals task force once you said once there was a. I forget the name of the form. It's like a 213 some form. Once you did the form that you were on an op and you hit send into the signal group of you were now a federal agent. If you got. If you shot anybody, your body cam rules all went against your agency policy. If you did something in that 20 minutes of time that you were on the app all the federal laws provide like we like you know when you go in a house your body camera.

[A]

Sheriff couldn't fire you for that.

[B]

Nope, nope, we're not. When you go to the house, you know you can never turn your body.

[A]

How would that work? Because your careers wanted to fire.

[B]

You're sworn you would be protected by the federal government. They can fire you but you're going to be protected by their attorneys and everything process.

[A]

You'll be back.

[B]

Correct. So when we went in the houses on marshall's warrants, it was body cam on.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

As soon as the handcuffs went click body cams off. So all that stuff afterwards and the.

[A]

Martians probably didn't even want the body cams but they were losing. They were losing. All the locals were saying we have to have body.

[C]

Correct.

[B]

But their body but you know it is. You go in the house, you put your body cam on. You don't turn it off till you're in your car. Feds are on, off, on, off, on off. As soon as you get handcuffs on, all that scuttle button locker room talk is off. Yeah. Statewise or at the agency, you got to leave that thing on. You can't even mute it. But if you shoot somebody, you are covered by the feds.

[A]

When you.

[C]

When you guys are rolling these dudes up, I mean like are you got once you do it. I mean like we had sensitive side exploitation. I'm assuming that's the. I mean it's the collection of evidence. Once you arrest the person.

[B]

Yeah. But no, not. Not those guys. U.S. marshals are warrants only. There could be 20 pounds of cocaine in there. We. We violate the Fourth Amendment by going in anyway.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

We just kicked the door and went and got them. It was warrants only.

[A]

Yeah. You could let someone take those drugs because you were in there. Law.

[B]

You would take it as safekeeping or destruction. There was no case.

[C]

There was a lot of times turn.

[A]

It over to somebody.

[B]

There's a lot of times when we went, yeah, there he is in the back room and the door goes open.

[A]

And extra work for you. You're not trying to.

[B]

The marshals only get warrants. They don't care about cases. They don't care about federal charges. They don't care about drug charges.

[C]

Clint says that filed was 21.9.

[B]

No, no, it's not.

[C]

I had a long conversation with Clint.

[B]

I can't remember what the it was but once we did the form and we sent it to the the rso, we were marshals for that next however long because our. You know, I. We're not allowed to pick cars with the marshals. So we would. Anyway.

[A]

You are saying that this all because local law enforcement failed to do their job.

[B]

I'm saying this is a generational problem you're going to continue to see because there is an entire party of the United States that tells citizens they don't have to listen to the police.

[A]

And you're saying that if local law enforcement had been doing that, working with the federal agents, it might have been two different people in those pairs of boots that would have known, hey, this isn't a good time to shoot somebody. They're just trying to evade. Because I know those federal agents. I shouldn't say I know. I would assume they don't have as much time on the street as your everyday. So I've had tons of people try to get away from me in a car when I was out or. And you just. It's inherent in you. If I'm in front let's. I know it's not particular to the situation, but I'm in front of your vehicle. Right. I'm like, oh, Jimmy could run me over.

[C]

Right.

[A]

It is so much easier to get out of your way than try to shoot you because you're still. Look at that car on that video. That park completed its trajectory.

[C]

That I completely agree with you on that point.

[A]

Yeah. If you're shooting, like my life's in danger.

[C]

Shooting.

[A]

Get out of the way shooting.

[C]

The driver's not going to stop the vehicle. I've seen that they went on in.

[A]

Training that I've been in it to explain this rule because this is a recent. In the last 10 years, cops used to be able to shoot at cars that were trying to get away that you say, he's coming right for us. Yeah, you could shoot. It was fine. They got. They went away with it due to certain cases and they literally laid out like three scenarios. You're on the ground, you're trapped and like in an alleyway, like there's only so many scenarios where you can't get it. The fastest way to save your own life is to get out of the way. And then shooting at the car when it's driving by is also not allowed. So it's creating your own existence. Exigency is what they call it.

[C]

So, you know, but you made this point a second ago. You know, these guys don't have a lot of time boots on the ground dealing with, you know, street level crimes. If you had put a. A Private first class from the 82nd Airborne. So Private First Class Hoover is in.

[A]

Front of that vehicle. He was an idiot. Okay.

[C]

Private First Class Hoover's in there. Not, you know, Deputy Hoover.

[A]

He was also an idiot.

[C]

Okay. But my, my point is, is that if, if that had happened to a. A soldier. We're not thinking about any of that. It's like, dude, you're catching this saw straight to, straight to the dome. Like I'm. I'm gonna go ring. Ring the bell through the belt. Fed, we got a buddy here.

[B]

Bring him in. You got a buddy here on the couch.

[A]

What?

[B]

Yeah, my friend here.

[A]

Oh, okay.

[B]

Come in and is it door locked?

[A]

No, I didn't lock it.

[C]

I locked the back door.

[A]

Yeah, back there should be.

[B]

So to that point, I still don't think this is officer induced Jeopardy. He was already standing there. Now, which Dom and I talked about. I think you were there. Was. It's easier to get out of the way than it is to draw. Do I think that officer is going to die from what she did? Absolutely not. He was not going to die. Is it his responsibility in the four science world of milliseconds to process information and make that decision? Now, I will tell you, I don't know how true this is, so don't.

[C]

Don't.

[B]

Don't kill me. I was told this morning on the way here that that guy was already involved in a ram incident where somebody tried to run him over. Maybe the Chicago one. Maybe the Chicago one. I know there's a Chicago one where they shot somebody. And remember we did a whole story on it where they told the watch commander not to come. So what is not his life experience that already been in that situation.

[A]

Telling you the other argument to. That's going to be common denominator. He was already involved in one instance where he did the same thing. Well, he didn't shoot the first. Yeah, but again, that's putting himself in exigent places.

[B]

But he did it. He's standing if. And I am. You know how I am about this. You know, I've always. It's usually the opposite.

[A]

I mean, if I'm swimming with sharks and my shark nips me on the arm, I'm not gonna be like, what the was that? Like, I know if I stand next to a car, but somebody with a warrant in it now.

[B]

But she's back initially, she's backing up, so it would not be out of his character to walk forward towards the situation. And then all of a sudden, she slams it in forward turns. And I think the wheels are irrelevant. He can't see that he's looking straight ahead, do I? I'm not saying this is a good or bad shoot. I'm just saying that I don't believe he can make that decision that fast. And I don't believe he put himself in that situation. Does she deserve to die? No, I don't want. This is not the one. That's what me and Dom talked about.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

When I'm an old man sitting in the rocking chair with broken knees. I don't want to tell my kids.

[C]

Man, I got me one.

[B]

I got me a body. And then they look at that video and go, damn, grandpa, you killed a cat lady. So I'm not on the guy.

[A]

Me a Karen.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

But it's like even I'm like having a schizophrenic episode on this because you're both making fantastic points.

[A]

You go back to this whole. You go back to this whole. This whole thing. We're split down the middle. There are pros and cons to federal agents inside our cities. I think animal lovers got to let the chat breathe a little bit. Yeah.

[C]

Take a breath too far.

[B]

This is going to be. This is a classic down the middle. All your conservatives are going to say it's a good shoot. Most of you, I would say large portion. Every liberal is going to say it's bad. And your everyday person is going to be. I think what we're doing is kind of like back and forth going and you know, it's a lady tires.

[C]

Shoot the legs.

[B]

Shoot the dudes.

[A]

It's not John Tavius with three warrants.

[B]

And then I, you know the argument last night was somebody's trying. Well, it's federal charges.

[C]

What is it?

[A]

You're pulling my head. My main headset.

[B]

God, I'm stepping on. That's why you can't get it.

[A]

My main headset is only.

[B]

I'm like, why is my. I thought my knee was really bad.

[C]

Because I'm like, like my leg is.

[B]

Moving all the time.

[C]

I swear to God.

[B]

You kept picking my foot up and I'm like, this is it. But so you know, that's what I'm saying. It's like it's not right. It's going to be completely. And I just look at it from the meme side. I made a. You know, Minneapolis needs cop ready houses. So you know, like the protest. But again, you don't really see much burning. You saw a little bit. You don't see anything really happening. If it was the demographics were slightly different, it would be a problem.

[A]

Oh yeah.

[C]

I think a lot of people are like, thank God it was a Karen, it's time. It's a I.

[A]

You can. Every single badge out there, whether you're fed or local is all saying they are saying it to each other. Thank God he wasn't black. Yeah, everybody, they're saying that. And that sucks because that has nothing to do with the race of somebody that you like for us. But it has to do with the.

[C]

Image and optics politics burning down cities.

[B]

I think the blacks like they finally killed a white lady.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Jesus Christ.

[A]

I'd never seen like those agents too, man. They just let it send. They did not look like if you took the audio out from that video. I wouldn't judge based off the body movements of those federal agents. I wouldn't have thought they shot anybody. They didn't look like guys that had. If I was a cop and I was doing whatever they were doing, and all of a sudden shots ran out. I'm gonna drawn look at, like, what's going on. They were just like, yeah, it's every day.

[C]

Well, either that or I think more than likely. Is that like, they probably. I mean, I'm sure they're at a heightened state of awareness, but it's probably like, oh. Oh, did that just happen? Oh, that just happened.

[A]

Yeah. You know, I mean, did any of them draw their guns?

[C]

I didn't see anybody. It's the one guy I mean, and the guy shot.

[A]

Yeah, he drew his gun. We know that.

[B]

Yeah. It's the second shot for me. That's like the one that. But it's the four science stuff we talked about. Your brain has already made the decision. It's like one through the windshield, and then.

[A]

Can you see the second shot?

[B]

It looks like it goes off a second time.

[A]

It looks like I.

[C]

The. The. It looked like there was a round that came in from the driver's side, and then there was ones that went through the windshield.

[A]

All right, we. This is not verified, by the way. Yeah, everybody just get off my dick about this. I don't know. We don't know. But you're saying it looks like two shots.

[B]

If you go back and listen. Go back and play it with the sound, even though it's gonna be like a cow. I think you hear two shots.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Boom, boom, boom, boom.

[A]

Do it again.

[B]

Just come by the camera, crouch down.

[C]

You don't have to crouch.

[A]

Hey, move that laptop case.

[C]

Oh, my bad.

[B]

We have a special guest. So if you listen, that's two shots. So that's one through the windshield and then one through the side again for science brain processing. I'm not thinking. He's like it. I'm gonna shoot her again. Kill her dead.

[A]

Yeah, that's fair.

[B]

That's part of, like, on the range. You never shoot one round of range.

[C]

It's never like, one round.

[A]

Yeah. When that. Do they have a. At the range, do they have a white lady in a minivan going like this? And you. You stay engaged.

[B]

That's a no shoot target. That's a no shoe target. You gotta wait for the other guy to come, and then you should step.

[A]

In front of the van and then.

[B]

Fire if there's a shoot. No shoot. The white ladies usually. No shoot. I mean, just statistically.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Going back to what you're saying, this whole. This whole thing is A show because having we're failing as a country in one regard when we have federal agents enforcing what street cops should be doing. That's why there's task force. That's why they, they. You're supposed to have an agent in theory with like 12 dudes that know the area, know the rules and say, hey, we can and can't do this.

[B]

All right, you want me to go further?

[A]

Do it. Send it deep.

[B]

So you have four years of agents being completely suppressed, not allowed to do any work under Joe Biden.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Now they get released to the streets and that furthers your argument that you know damn well they weren't out in the streets rounding anybody up. They weren't pointing guns, they weren't shooting people in the face with 40 millimeter gas things. They were said the office watching illegals walk in the country free and clear.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So now you have like a, let's say you got a five year agent. Well, his last four years have been doing nothing or you know, so he has like one year. Yeah, it's like taking a three year, two year cop and just sending them out. It's like, oh, it's like, it's, it's. They don't have much experience either way. If they're a five year agent, they maybe have one now year out doing the real police work and none. Well, they have something. They've been out there doing something. They've been wrangling up people. But before that the Biden administration had those guys first, probably half of them weren't hired and then they were at. On desk. They weren't doing anything. I remember talking to Keith Pearson, the, he's part of Homeland Security and he said that like he had to go around like every unit in the country and go, go do your job, we got your back. Go arrest people, throw people on the ground, take them to jail. It's okay. Like they cut their budget, they cut their vehicles, they cut their funding. Biden had nothing going on for these guys. So you know, you're got, you might have a bunch of inexperienced agents like you say out there that have never. And of course they've never done domestic violence calls, civil calls.

[A]

I do. Do they have formal training in stopping a vehicle?

[B]

I'm sure that, yeah, they all do vet and all that stuff. They do.

[C]

Well, I can tell you for a fact that their, their training cycle now is really emphasizing vehicles.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Convoys even.

[A]

What's the, what's the pretext to this? Is there any pretext? Is there anything at all?

[B]

I was Told she was just a protester that got an argument. And that's. That's where I was going was Some people were like, oh, he's committing a federal crime. Like resisting an agent is a federal crime. Like it is, though. Oh, it's different on the federal level. And it's like. And then she was fleeing.

[A]

It's like, can you use lethal force to him?

[B]

No, not a resisting. I don't think resisting is getting that.

[C]

Where's the distraction?

[B]

There are two very distractionary blows.

[A]

You know what the cynical part of me is like, hey, everyone's gonna think twice now. They're like, these ICE agents are playing around. And then not only is that. Did that happen. He's cleared in a matter of 24 hours.

[B]

It'll be a week.

[C]

I mean, he's probably still.

[A]

I mean, he's unofficially but officially cleared.

[B]

Yeah, they got like five days before they have to give a statement. The feds.

[A]

I thought they already gave him one.

[B]

No, the feds said he did everything good on their Instagram.

[C]

But he'll.

[B]

In the Fed system, you get like a five day. Go home, no talking.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

And then you get interviewed, like, in the state you might.

[A]

Officially.

[B]

He's good mean. Dh. I'll pull it up. I mean, I'll read it.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

If you go to their main page. DHS.

[C]

It says.

[B]

The DHS. DHS.gov Clint.

[C]

Clint said made a great point. He said, if she had been wearing her vest, we wouldn't have this problem. That's right.

[B]

Today, ICE agents in Minneapolis were conducting a target operation when riders began blocking ICE officers in. One of the violent riders weaponized for vehicle. Listen, Those words. One of the violent.

[A]

I love it.

[B]

Rioters weaponized vehicle attempting to run over law enforcement. That is an act of terrorism.

[A]

Hey, that. That's you. When you want. When you want all the Fox News moms on your side. Those words you say.

[B]

ICE officer fearing for his life and the lives of his fellow agents.

[A]

And.

[B]

The safety of the public.

[A]

I love it. Fire.

[B]

Defensive.

[A]

Fire.

[B]

Defensive shots.

[C]

That's another shirt. It's distractionary blows.

[B]

Put that one down.

[A]

So that.

[B]

That is how Mike. That's how Mike Dilks would write a use of force report. Right there. That's Mike Dilks, like 2014 on the side of the road going, hey, man, he tried to bite my flashlight 16 times.

[C]

Yeah, I keep ripping it away from.

[B]

Him, and he just kept biting it.

[C]

Like I like it. I mean, first of all, you know, it's. It's not a stretch to say that using A vehicle. It could be used for terror, terrorism. Because it's happened. It's happened more than once where people have used a vehicle to hurt and kill large groups of people.

[B]

Oh, yes.

[C]

So, I mean, you can. You can clearly articulate that and go with. With previous evidence. Go like it has happened.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

I mean, what's to say? I mean, like, to be the devil's advocate, what's to say that she wasn't planning to, you know, pull a donut?

[A]

Hey, you know what? I think lawyer all the time. I think union rep. I think lawyer like you. We don't know that.

[B]

See it in her eyes. She was coming back. She was coming back around.

[A]

Yeah. Like you said, I couldn't see those tires. I couldn't see. She was turning.

[C]

I could smell the cat piss wafting out. Yeah.

[A]

I thought it was a bomb. Turns out it was just cat piss.

[B]

Only thing about this that makes it not all the way perfect was it's not a Subaru.

[A]

Yeah, that would have been awesome.

[C]

It was a Subaru.

[B]

It had been the whole. All the checks.

[A]

Yeah. I mean, at the end of the day, it's local copy. Bad. Shoot. Not. I don't even think. I know. They'll prosecute you for sure. They'll prosecute you for local.

[B]

Probably be executed in Minneapolis for that.

[A]

But, I mean, look at. I mean, I know. I mean, it makes me. I'm.

[B]

What if he got. What if he got her out? What if he got her out and put a knee on her back?

[C]

Okay.

[B]

Your hero for nine minutes.

[C]

But, I mean, hey, listen, you think.

[A]

They'Re gonna resurrect statues of Cat Lady?

[B]

I'm just saying. I'm just saying. The knee in the back doesn't look so bad now, man.

[A]

No, it doesn't. Defensive shots. I love that because I love the way you. They spin fear for life. Fear. Propeller agents. Defensive shots. Terrorism.

[B]

You can take.

[A]

You flip that. What are the. What's the other narrative gonna say?

[B]

Say the tyrannical government agents attempted to.

[C]

Just do Nazi things.

[B]

Fascism. Nazi. Throw the keywords in there. Racist.

[A]

Let me throw you at this, right? We have a. We have a really good governor. Governor Desantis.

[C]

Yeah, we do.

[A]

What if he said. And he wouldn't ever do this, but I'm just trying to think of something off the top of my head. What if Governor DeSantis said, in Florida, you do not have to have driver's licenses to drive problems. Tons of problems everywhere. But let's just say he said that, and all of a sudden, now Florida they're not enforcing. We got.

[C]

I. 4 is a war zone.

[A]

Yeah, dude, it already is.

[B]

Much.

[A]

But what if the president sent DMV agents that were armed and tried to take you into custody for not driving? You know, at the end of the day. How do you look at that? I mean, let's. Let's preface. Mike just sat here and said, we're not.

[B]

We.

[A]

We have common sense. We're not going to resist law enforcement.

[C]

Right.

[A]

That being said.

[B]

Well, it's the same. You don't really have to even throw the DMV. It's I.C.E. agents are there.

[A]

Well, you're a legal.

[C]

You're.

[A]

Yeah. American, so you don't have to worry about it.

[B]

Yeah, I guess we probably wouldn't be as hard on driving as we are on immigration.

[A]

Like.

[B]

Ah, it. It's just a driver's license. They're here legally. They're Americans or just, you know, they're just dry. I could see it being. It's a party thing, dude. Half the country thinks everybody should be here, and half the country thinks you should follow the law.

[C]

Well, at some point, I mean, remember this. Because of this incident now Tim Walls is saying he's going to bring in the National Guard.

[B]

That should be cool.

[C]

Well, I mean, you know, we all. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

[B]

Tim Wallace is gonna bring in the.

[A]

National Guard against the Feds?

[C]

That's correct.

[A]

Yes. Yes. Dude, this is like a video game, dude. This is like a movie pot. Who's in charge of that scenario?

[C]

Okay, so this has already happened under General. Or I keep calling him General, but he wasn't a general. He was the president. President Eisenhower at the time.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

Somebody tried to do. I think it had to do with. I think it was the coal miner strikes, if I'm not mistaken. So the National Guard got brought in to stop federal agents from doing their job, and then the federal government federalized the National Guard, then sent them home. So those guys are getting paid to stay at home. Yeah.

[B]

So look at that comment.

[A]

What the.

[B]

Derek Chauvin. You want me to give you some recommendation to help strengthen your knees? That's a good one.

[A]

I love that.

[B]

That's a good one. I hope somebody.

[A]

Oh, we've seen that.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

That's a better name.

[B]

That's a good comment, though.

[A]

Yeah, Yeah.

[C]

I mean, there's some good ones, man. There's some.

[A]

Yeah. I mean, dude. Okay, so we're not ignoring the chat.

[B]

We're not ignoring.

[A]

Remember somebody said.

[B]

We're trying. It's a broadcast. Hey, there's a Little button. Super chat.

[C]

Oh yeah, yeah.

[A]

If you actually pay some money, we'll read your chat.

[B]

And it's not, we're not being pretentious and say that it's just, it's tough to do all this.

[C]

And let's, let's be clear. Clint is a, a contributor to the show. He's an og.

[A]

Like, yeah, we, I remember seeing Derek's.

[B]

Definitely a contributor to the show.

[A]

But I mean, at the end of the day and, and that's just. Everybody gets it when we're covering. When we're in the middle of something, we can't stop because to be honest with you, the 240 people watching this on X&, and, and YouTube might not want to hear what one person has to say in the chat. They might be trying to get informed and entertained by the show. So there's time and place for reading the chats when there's a lull in conversation, when we're breaking through points or if it's different shows.

[B]

Different shows with you. And I'll be honest with you, when we went through the, the dip, we were very big comment watching because it was all the drama and everything and it took away from both of our abilities.

[A]

We had to, we had to play.

[B]

Heather yelling at us all the time. And it was, I could feel it. We were always like, what is everybody saying? What is it now?

[C]

We had to come to Jesus.

[B]

Yeah, we have to get back to doing this because if I'm reading that and, and then trying to it, it throws off.

[A]

Because when even a funny comment. That's hilarious. I'm like, you guys are laughing. And I'm like, what are you guys laughing at? To stop the show.

[C]

So I mean, and that's why one of the rings that I do is I have the computer here. I'm talking in the chat. That's what you guys wanted me to do. They're like, hey, Jimmy's interacting.

[A]

Exactly. And if Jim, if Jimmy sees something that is. Hey guys, check this out. He's gonna tell us.

[C]

Yeah, so, So, I mean, yeah, nobody's ignoring the chat. You guys are. I mean, and I said this last night like you guys are. You guys are the OGs. So. Oh, the, the yogis.

[A]

Good, good chat question though. Where's the Minnesota State Police? And all this controlled by the governor. So first off, if Minnesota State Police are they. I know Florida Highway Patrol, which is the arm of which is their state police here in Florida. They really. There's like 90 interstates, crashes tickets.

[B]

Those guys are like cops but up.

[A]

Up northeast, those troopers enforce the law.

[C]

Yeah, well, I mean, so does, like, God's chosen people.

[B]

No.

[C]

Yeah. No. What is it?

[B]

Georgia State Patrol. State Patrol. Then you go up north. Michigan State Patrol, which is led by a bunch of clowns. Michigan State Patrol guys are squared away.

[A]

State police are staying out of it.

[B]

You haven't seen them. They're told not to. They're not allowed, the locals in the state. They're. Leave the agents alone.

[C]

Leave Britney alone.

[B]

Leave the agents alone.

[C]

There's people. There's people from Minnesota in the chat saying that the, The. The stand down, like, get away from it. Don't.

[B]

The governor was, Last week was waving a Somalian flag around. They're.

[C]

I mean, we're five minutes from, you know, Blackhawks being blown out of the sky by RPGs over there.

[B]

It's like, I had a very easy solution last night.

[C]

Yeah, okay.

[B]

A ten right down the. Right down the road, man. There won't be any more protesters.

[C]

Yeah, I mean, dude, I mean, you see that AC130 flying overhead, starts dipping its left wing and doing a circle. Maybe it's time to get the hell out of here.

[A]

But what if they could do chemical agents from the air?

[C]

I just want a. A, A rotary, a Gatling paintball game. You could. That was.

[B]

Fly the Blackhawk over and drop gas cans out canisters.

[A]

Yeah, I mean, it doesn't really seem like the protests are the problem. It seems like that that protest got out of hand. I understand that. That that's what created the problem. But the problem, I was afraid, lies with federal agents out there having no support from the local cops. That's where the problems are.

[B]

The problem is that the telling the people it's okay to not listen to the law, that is the whole problem.

[C]

So, so here Tim Walls is guilty.

[B]

Of this girl's death. Here's what we look lateral guilty for this.

[C]

Here's what we learned. Your state government is not going to help these agents, but they ain't going to stop them from killing your ass. And I guarantee you the people telling you to do it don't care if you live.

[B]

And you made a good point earlier there. What if the state guys are there going, hey, dude, like, we don't get down like this. We're cooperating with you, but we're not shooting anybody. We're not getting in front of any cars. Like, we're here, but we're. Our directive is like, pull back a little bit, maybe something. So maybe one of the state guys gets in These ICE agents, heads like, okay, we'll pull back, we'll get off the street, we'll go on the side. So I think you're right. If everybody was working together, but you have the federal agents that aren't used to these type of calls, that you're inexperienced and the police are.

[A]

Let me ask you this. Just. We're. We're talking about the Department of State. First off, I thought ICE was under Homeland Security.

[C]

Yeah, it is, but do they have.

[A]

Does Department of State have some kind of authority?

[C]

Absolutely none.

[A]

So why are we. What are we. Why are we mixing up State Department?

[C]

Okay, so this. If what you're talking about, what I'm thinking is there is d. There is implications for this incident that go into a lot of other things that are going around, going on worldwide. So this issue right here concurrent with the ICE raids is also the protests about the Venezuela thing. And those two, like, joined together into one gigantic amorphous blob of protesters.

[B]

Big vagina.

[C]

Yeah. Just protesting every big cat lady vagina.

[B]

So.

[C]

Oh, wow, that's a. That's great. Super chat. I don't know the answer to that. That's. That's for you guys.

[A]

Well, I can't read.

[C]

It says, will Felix versus Barnes help her hurt here.

[B]

He's a case law guy.

[A]

Oh, that's Eric from Two Cops, One Donut. Oh, you had to flex on us, dude. You son of a. Yeah, well, Felix versus Barnes helper hurt.

[B]

I know. Pennsylvania merch. Mims was in the chat in that one. He was told to get out of.

[A]

The car for the idiots that don't know what feels.

[C]

Including me.

[A]

Barnes is. Yeah, for all the dumb dumbs in the room. Someone please clarify.

[C]

Yeah, I. I don't know. I mean, I can go look it up.

[B]

Felix versus Barnes. A landmark 2025 Supreme Court case rejected by the fist court moment. Oh, this is that new. Yes, I did actually do know what this is. It talks about the totality of the circumstances leading up to that exact moment.

[A]

That's what I was asking. What happened?

[B]

Yes, it was a very similar. Yeah, it was a very similar call or shooting. It says it's the moment of threat doctrine for. My wife went over this with me. I should be mad. I didn't remember it. Totality of the circuit circumstances, including events leading up to the incident, not just the actual incident. So what she did beforehand matters factors into his decision to fire his weapon.

[A]

What did she do beforehand?

[B]

We don't know.

[C]

Yeah, but we. We. I mean, that's the. The thing we're looking at 30 seconds. We don't know the. I mean you guys have been on calls.

[A]

Does it.

[C]

Does it. Do you walk up to a car and it asks. No.

[A]

All the videos start with that car Caddy corner like that. And the agents there. There's no video of. Are they at a checkpoint? Is she the subject of the stop? Probably not because I call her a protester. She was probably being a Karen armed with a vehicle assault device aimed at a federal agent.

[B]

An ICE agent assault vehicle.

[A]

So I mean but at the end of the day it does matter. Were they. Were that. What were they there for? Why was her vehicle turned like that?

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Turn around. Did she try to turn around and then get scared and then go at that? If there's a lot of things.

[C]

I mean and who are they going.

[B]

To write her a citation for the crash?

[C]

I mean here's the thing. Like I. Before I, I sat down with you guys, I, I did. No but I have now watched so many. I've watched hours of. Of inter police interactions with. Yeah cop stuff and I. From what I have seen it doesn't go from 0 to 60, no pun intended like that. It's normally like there's conversations. Things start escalating, voices start getting louder things. You know the, the use of force. The escalation of force starts kicking up and then bang, something happens.

[A]

Was she detained that. What did they tell her to get out of the car? Yeah.

[B]

Did she say you.

[C]

I'm gonna run you over that, that. That's a great point.

[A]

Kill you with my Subaru.

[C]

It wasn't a Subaru autopilot, just a Mini. I found you get out of the car.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Hey, what is it? Catnip from Shrek. Yeah.

[B]

Put the Steelers J.

[C]

Oh man. She said something about Aaron Rodgers. Subaru.

[A]

Subaru.

[C]

Dude. I mean let's.

[B]

Somebody died.

[C]

Yeah, that's what I was just thinking. We're like.

[B]

We're laughing about it.

[C]

But she did get.

[B]

Yeah, I guess we're all pieces of now I feel terrible.

[C]

She did catch 9 million.

[B]

I will tell you, no dogs were injured in this video. So I'm good.

[A]

Yeah. I mean at the end of the day you're right but it's. People are. This is a hard lesson for everybody to learn. And you, you don't, you don't with the police when they're out there. You could disagree with all you want. My dad was a cop and he told me I don't ever go bother the police. Ever. I'll pretend they're not Your friend.

[C]

I'll take it one step further. If somebody is carrying around a gun in an official capacity, maybe think about the fact that they. I mean, they're carrying that gun because they have authority. Now, to Mike's point all the time is there's a lot of that are carrying that gun. Can you imagine if it was one of your tick tock cops? One of your girls that's dancing around? She probably would have unloaded the whole mag into that thing.

[B]

Yeah. While she's yelling taser.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Oh, but yeah. And you know, Jerry says this a lot. Jerry Worms. If you don't resist, there will be no outcome like this. It. That's. And that's the flip side. Do we know citizens do not need to be gunned down for no reason. But if you go back to every police shooting, if the person complied, there would be no shooting.

[A]

All right, well, we're going to take a quick commercial break. We're going to come back to this. We'd like some comments from you guys if you could super chat them to make them stand out. We'd like to engage in this conversation.

[C]

I can't. I can't say it but like. Because what you just said, but it's. It's so funny.

[A]

Jimmy, you're a host of the show. You can say whatever you want.

[C]

But I, I know I can. But I mean like I don't want. I want pe. I want you guys to super chat.

[A]

Oh, no, that's fine. If you, you, you can pick out.

[C]

Okay, so you know, Clint's like eight cats went hungry that night. And then colts, like the cats are currently eating each other for survival.

[B]

That'll cost you both five bucks. Pay up, you mother.

[A]

Yeah, hold on.

[B]

Wait.

[A]

Before if you got. Stay, obviously, because we're gonna continue to talk about this. I want to hear what everybody has to say. Questions that we didn't answer. There's still more to talk about. We fit the broad topics, but we are here live every day, Monday through Friday, 11am Eastern Standard Time. X Facebook and YouTube. We will be right back after a word from our sponsors.

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Yeah.

[C]

Counterculture.

[B]

Counterculture.

[A]

No, no. Anti era 15.

[C]

Antihero 15.

[B]

Okay. Anti hero 15.

[C]

Mine says counterculture for my record.

[B]

Yeah, because we're.

[C]

Yeah, we're like cool.

[B]

Yeah. All right, back to the topic where Tyler thinks federal agents should be able to shoot Everybody, what we saying? The.

[C]

The federal agent should be able to do the 360 death blossom at will.

[B]

Yeah. If anybody's getting super chats. Any questions? We'll.

[C]

I mean, we did get a super chat.

[A]

We did. Liz, she's just giving support for the shadow cast.

[B]

Liz for the shadow cast. Oh, I didn't even see that. Liz is the nicest person, dude. Like, she apologizes if she misses the show. She's always in there. She always leads off every conversation with, my name is Mike. Who didn't get sued. Yeah, because I'm the only one.

[C]

Yeah, we're. We're back to Minecraft for some reason. As soon as we roll vengeance, we go Minecraft.

[B]

You weren't when I was watching. You said we weren't.

[A]

No, we're not. Now we're good.

[C]

Yeah, I'm looking right now.

[A]

It looks like I'm looking right now too.

[C]

No, you look great. Damn, it's fantastic.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Oh, man.

[A]

Maybe God is good, man.

[C]

God is good.

[A]

All right. We didn't even do.

[C]

We don't even have. We don't have a. I. I do have a. A. A Bible verse for the day, so if you'll give me a second while you guys talk.

[B]

Yeah, Mashed potatoes.

[A]

Oh, no. Yeah, we're back to being. Oh, Louis, work through it. So did we get any questions from the chat about this? Does anybody.

[C]

I'm looking. I'm pulling up my Bible verse, so I'm. Give me one second.

[A]

Well, let's. I think we. I mean, we covered it. There's. I just. I hate going into something without any, like, too far, without any context. There's no back. How was there no context to what happened?

[C]

I. I wish we knew.

[A]

I mean, like, how do they get away with just.

[B]

It's too soon. It's too soon. Like in a real.

[A]

They can't say this is what was happening, what they were doing there.

[C]

I'm opposite.

[B]

That's where I go.

[A]

I don't.

[B]

I don't like that. I don't like right away just get dump in the public with like that.

[C]

We need to do with a shooting.

[B]

Yeah, we'll get to you. We'll get back to you. Well, go talk to her family.

[A]

You broadcast like us need that info.

[B]

Sorry your cat lady decided to try to run over an agent. You know, we'll get.

[C]

Throw your flag, but F's in the chat, boys. F's in the chat.

[B]

I just look at it like sometimes getting the information out quickly will lead to bad information. So they need time to collect the information, get it all together, interview these people, and then get it out.

[A]

Now.

[B]

If it's clear as day and the whole thing was recorded, then I can understand being like, here's what happened. This is allegedly what happened. But when you have six seconds of video and a shooting from three different angles, you don't have time to interview.

[A]

I think something like this, the heat of what is all going on in Minnesota, Minneapolis, they need to be very, very clear on every interaction between federal agents and the people on the ground. There's just. There's no excuse for it. There's no local cops. I get it. If I shoot somebody in three, at three in the morning, I don't expect that. I have the. For the community, have the full debrief. That's what happens when you fight crime. And our cops are out there coming head to head with crime. Shit's gonna happen. We'll let you know. But something like this. These are federal agents deployed in our streets. We deserve some kind of explanation on what was going on there. Maybe not the particulars of the shooting, I get that. But just the context of why it started and why it happened in the first place.

[B]

No, no. None of your business.

[A]

You boot.

[B]

None of your business.

[A]

Mike the boot.

[C]

Maga.

[A]

Mike is back, baby. We gotta get MAGA on that red hat.

[B]

None of your business. Like you don't know. What if it was a. What if it's a wiretap investigation? They're there doing surveillance. It doesn't.

[A]

But it's not a wife.

[B]

You don't know that. What if it's a large scale terrorism investigator? What if they're for something that you don't. I read a case yesterday that's going back to 2012 in this, and it's still sealed. They have not opened the case yet. Sealed from like.

[A]

That's because they're trying to cover something.

[B]

Okay, so maybe here it's like, caught a cover up. If the previous administration enforced the immigration laws, we wouldn't be here right now.

[A]

Yeah, that's true. Let's see. Anybody got anything else on this Minnesota shooting before we move on?

[C]

I mean it. I've got some great memes, but nothing.

[A]

Did you send them?

[C]

Oh, I sent them to. To him. So Louis is busy.

[A]

So Lewis is busy playing games.

[C]

He's over there playing five nights.

[B]

What is that?

[A]

Is that one of the memes? Can you read it? Because I can't.

[C]

Okay, so that's not the meme that I'm talking about. We'll get to that one. Later.

[B]

Lewis just pulls up whatever the.

[A]

He wants you. We work here.

[C]

It's the. It's the Instagram meme.

[A]

What?

[C]

Okay.

[A]

What's going on? Lewis put something up. You're like, that's not the right one. But is it not an order?

[C]

I sent him. I just sent him the. The.

[A]

Was that one of the ones you sent?

[C]

Yes.

[A]

Why is it off the screen? Why can't we talk about it?

[C]

Oh, oh, because I haven't.

[B]

It's not related to the conversation.

[C]

It's not related to the Minnesota thing.

[A]

Welcome to the show. Out of order. Yeah, that's what I was asking.

[B]

We don't have no order around here. Yeah, we're at Lewis's order. Lewis decides what goes up on the screen. So.

[C]

Yeah, Lewis is in charge of this one. Yes, that's the one right there. All right, so. Because this is a. This is a great segue.

[A]

Go tape your knee, dude.

[C]

Pour some testing on it.

[B]

I know.

[C]

Did you know he's sucking? Have you taken some Motrin yet?

[A]

I did. Dude, I feel for you. All right. Is this it?

[C]

Yeah, that's. I don't know if you guys can read it all.

[A]

I can't read it. I think Lewis short circuits sometimes and just. Just stares at the computer screen like.

[C]

I don't know how to make this bigger. Make it bigger. Louis, let me see if.

[A]

If the audio is working. Nope.

[B]

It'S on.

[C]

There it goes.

[A]

Yeah, there we go. I had no audio.

[B]

No, nobody did.

[C]

He has to reset it.

[B]

That's the magic thing. There we go.

[C]

He just goes, we're resetting everything. There he is. Some lubrication around.

[B]

Some lubrication around there.

[A]

All right, Jimmy's fired from meme duties.

[C]

Why?

[B]

Oh, we got a real good stretch there. Maybe it's an IDF guy in the mask, not an ice agent.

[A]

IDF is really defense force.

[C]

I'm fired from. I'm fired from memes. Damn. So, I mean, here's the thing. The. The memes going around right now because we are. We have invaded. Well, at least done an incursion into Venezuela. We have.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

So lots. Lots, lots going on. So here's the segue. Because of the rampant stuff going on in Minnesota, you've got the Venezuela stuff going on, and we've got. We're trying to take Greenland from the fins.

[A]

What?

[C]

Yeah, yeah. We're trying to buy.

[A]

Hold on. Let's. One thing at a time. That's.

[C]

That's why the meme is funny. That's why the meme. Okay. Yeah.

[A]

So. Okay, Just don't lose us all.

[C]

Yeah. All right. So we're at. Concurrently. At the exact same time. We have the stuff going on in Venezuela. We have. We're trying to take over Greenland. We have the. The stuff going on in Minnesota that involves people from outside the United States. And we're probably going to lose Tim Walls. Thank God he's decided to not run for reelection. So it's fun. Oh, and we're planning to take over Cuba as well, or at least remove that dictator.

[A]

You want me to just start asking you? Because I said don't lose us.

[C]

I have to set the stage.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

Okay. So we have all this going on. Marco Rubio is going to be in charge of all of this.

[A]

So what's his position?

[C]

He is the. The Secretary of State.

[B]

Yeah. So Hillary Clinton did.

[C]

Yeah, he's.

[A]

Marco Ruby is the second.

[C]

Yeah, that's right.

[B]

Deletes his emails.

[C]

So that's why it's funny, because it's like, all of this stuff going on at once, and Marco Rubio is, like, now, like, dictatorship.

[A]

Yeah, he's like warlord. Yeah.

[C]

He's. So, like, the memes are going around of him, like, dressed up as a Viking and, like, all this stuff. So it's.

[A]

That's funny now.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

So if you knew what was. You got Tyler on, trust me, it is funny. So what. And here's how this, you know, this stuff bleeds over again. These protests are now turning into, like, they're. They're forming into one giant Karen vagina. That's a good one, right? Yeah.

[B]

He said earlier.

[C]

Oh, yeah. Oh, I like it.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

So we've got the protests about Venezuela, the protests about Greenland, the protests about ice in Minnesota, and they're all happening at the exact same time. So you could be doing. Go into a protest. They're like, what are you guys protesting about? We're protesting about Venezuela. And then you walk to the next person and it's like, what are you guys protesting about?

[A]

The wrong person.

[C]

The original Floyd. Like, what is happening right now? I swear to God, it's. It's ridiculous.

[A]

So you said we're taking over Greenland. Let's just hit that one first.

[C]

Okay. So if you look at a map, and I don't have a map for us, but I mean, just go look at a.

[A]

You know, don't worry about it. I saw him look at me like, do you want a map? No.

[C]

No. Okay, if you look at a map. So go break out your, you know, encyclopedias.

[A]

I know Lewis is, like, green.

[C]

I want to put a Map timer.

[A]

If you want to put a map up, Lewis, you can. Don't.

[C]

Do you know what Greenland is?

[B]

You know where it is?

[C]

No.

[B]

No.

[A]

Good.

[B]

Find Greenland for us then. Put it up. No, I want you to find it like without googling it. Just so get a map and. Get a map and put it up there.

[C]

Denmark currently is in control of Greenland. Okay. So they are part of NATO, but they don't exactly spend 2% of their GDP on defense. Greenland is very, very important to the United States.

[A]

Why?

[C]

Because of where it's located?

[A]

Strategically.

[C]

Yeah, it's the, the location of the land itself. And because Denmark can't protect it, they've sort of rely on us to protect it.

[A]

We have bases there.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, we have bases and. Oh yeah, yeah, we have a. I think it's. Oh no, we have a base in Iceland and kef. So what Trump wants and what Marco Ruby is talking about is like, hey, we can buy this from you or just. Or we can take it.

[A]

That's like when the government.

[C]

It's a beautiful land.

[B]

It's very green. It's green and nice. Greenland's actually correct.

[C]

That's why, that's why the Denmark owns it. Because Denmark is the descendants of the Vikings.

[A]

So we're. Are we threatening to take it? We're in negotiations right now.

[C]

It's negotiations for, hey, how much is it going to cost me to give this up? And we're deciding whether or not it's going to become a state.

[B]

I heard they have weapons of mass destruction there. Yes.

[C]

God help them if they have oil too.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. They have a dictator over there. We got to get them out of power. And they're sending drugs, drugs to America.

[B]

I went to aerosol school in Greenland. That's where my school was. It was during the ice and snow.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

So and.

[A]

And it would be a. Definitely be a U. S. Territory. We're not going to make a 51st state. That would really. Well, well, people.

[C]

Puerto Rico people are saying like Puerto Rico and Greenland. We just make it. It even. Steven. 52.

[A]

Right.

[C]

There's nothing that says we have to have an even number.

[A]

I think we still stick with 50. You start. You want to. People tell us we have a tyrannical government now.

[B]

Venezuela, when we're adding states to this thing, Venezuela makes. Venezuela makes 53.

[C]

Yeah, that's right. It's. It's the USSA.

[A]

Cuba's 54.

[C]

Yeah, yeah. I mean it. We'll just divide Cuban half.

[A]

We'll make Minneapolis its own little D.C. yeah, we'll turn it into a range for the Air Force.

[C]

It's game the on right now. Now. So while in conjunction with that, the United States last, last night, this morning seized two oil tankers that escaped. They were running for their lives from Venezuela.

[B]

12 knots. Yeah, 12 knots.

[C]

They were zigzagging.

[A]

Yeah. We have no. So we have no, we don't have any forces left there. Delta Force went in with the feds. They left, right?

[C]

Yeah, there's nobody on the ground right now. But the problem is, is that currently in Venezuela, the, the current government is like saying all of the right things to the government of the United States on one hand. And on the other hand it's like, oh, yeah. And we're violently cracking down on the protesters that are, are very happy that Maduro is gone.

[A]

Right. Well. Oh, so it's a bad government. Oh, yeah, very bad. Oh, we, we created a vacuum. We trusted the people that said they were going to come in and run it.

[C]

And sure as so, Maduro's vice president is still in charge. So we haven't ousted her from power yet, which is why I think that this weekend we're probably going to see some moves.

[A]

Who's in power?

[C]

The vice president under Maduro is still technically in power.

[A]

And that's not the one we want to put in there.

[C]

That's correct.

[A]

The one we want. So the vice president is the one cracking down.

[C]

She is, yes.

[A]

How are they cracking down on it?

[C]

They mobilize anybody? Oh, yeah, they're killing them and running them over. Oh, it's bad, dude, it's bad.

[A]

Y' all white people here have it so good.

[C]

You think that we have a tyrannical government because somebody got shot in the face with a pepper ball gun. These people are getting run over by armored vehicles.

[A]

So imagine going, doing this in Venezuela.

[C]

Yeah, you, you'd be getting gunned down, gun down. Okay, like, and I'm not talking about like, where somebody gets shot twice and we have a argument about it.

[A]

Your prediction.

[C]

Yeah, my product.

[A]

You made a very, very, very confident prediction today. This morning before we went live.

[C]

I, I did, yeah.

[A]

You said, well, I'm not going to take it from you. Go ahead.

[C]

Are you talking about, like, hey, I think we're going to end this weekend? Yeah, I think this weekend it's very much pro to me. We've the pressure's on Trump to go ahead and like, hey, you created this vacuum. You got to do something about it now because people are getting killed because of this government. So we could probably expect because Comet power is still there. It didn't all go home to start seeing targeted airstrikes on the military capabilities of Venezuela, which we didn't. Trump did not want to do. He didn't want to destroy their military. He wanted a peaceful transition of power. Yeah, but they're using their military to, you know what? They don't use their military the way we do. They use their military to control their people.

[B]

Right, and that's what ICE is doing.

[A]

Yeah, but what is that? So the, the military is on board. You got to think about the personal soldier of Venezuela. Yeah, he has to be. I mean, they don't like freedom.

[C]

I, I think that it's more because.

[A]

They have a paycheck.

[B]

No, they're already bought and paid.

[A]

They're like American cops now. But hey, send me a paycheck, I'll do whatever you tell me.

[B]

Hold on.

[C]

Now think about this. Who were the guys that got killed by the Delta Force?

[B]

Cubans.

[C]

They were Cubans. They were not Venezuelans. He didn't trust his own soldiers to protect him. He had to get Cubans.

[B]

Interesting.

[C]

Interesting.

[A]

Hey Clint, we see you. Mike's still getting injuries from his 12 mile.

[C]

Air assault march, so.

[A]

Yeah, okay, that's a good point. So he had Cuban bodyguards because he didn't trust his own military.

[C]

That's right. And they moved him to a military compound. They moved him to Fort Toina and out of the palace in Caracas. And I mean, didn't stop the Delta Force, didn't even slow him down. I mean like they were. From the time they breached the target to the time they had him flex cuffed. Five minutes. Five.

[A]

Five.

[C]

Yeah, I mean, I remember hearing that. So when, now it looks, I, I think personally that probably this weekend we're going to see some more airstrikes, probably on the command and control centers. I don't think we're going to go after the soldiers just yet. I think it's very much going to be like, can we bet on this.

[B]

On Hard Rock or anything?

[C]

I'm sure we can. I'm. That's one of the things I have to go do.

[B]

Can I get a parlay in on that?

[A]

Yeah. You guys have that?

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

So I have to parlay in, man. I, I am, I'm.

[A]

Oh, I tell you what, be ready because we'll do another emergency broadcast.

[B]

Yeah, I might do it from the hospital, but I'll be there.

[C]

The airstrikes are going to be, I mean, again, I don't think, first of all, I just love how awesome it is that they had the best and most high speed Russian and Chinese surface.

[B]

Of all time that.

[C]

That could seize stealth and like it didn't do. It did do a thing. They couldn't see us. They didn't know what was going on.

[A]

Even regular Blackhawks, they couldn't.

[C]

So the Blackhawks flew nap of the earth. They were down at like 70ft.

[B]

And if you don't know, now you know.

[C]

Yeah, that's what he said.

[B]

That's what Rubio said.

[C]

If you don't know, now you know. Oh, yeah, that's why he's like. That's where the memes are coming from. He's like. He's like got like a pimp cane.

[B]

He's like, if you don't know, now you know.

[C]

So I mean, it's, it's wild out there.

[B]

So Mike had two donuts for breakfast just to clear that up.

[C]

So the meme that I sent you from Two donuts.

[B]

Two Tasty.

[A]

Dude, you're really good.

[C]

Picture.

[A]

You're really good.

[C]

You can bring that up.

[B]

I had a protein shake with it.

[C]

So here's the answer to. In the invasion of Greenland. Instead of invading Greenland, this is what we can do. Go ahead. So if you can read that.

[A]

I cannot.

[C]

The simple, simple diplomatic solution is Baron Trump marries Princess Isabella of Denmark and Greenland is given to America as a dowry payment.

[A]

I like it.

[C]

Yeah. So he gets. I mean, and Grok has already projected what their kids will look like.

[A]

Really?

[C]

Yes. So like, I mean, like, this is, this is us mirroring up our world.

[A]

Like the Taylor Swift and that football. Football player. Kelsey Kelsey. Yeah. What's his last name?

[C]

Travis.

[A]

Kelsey. Travis, Kelsey and Taylor Swift. That's like. Yeah, that's a. It's a power couple.

[C]

Yeah, exactly. So we can, we can do this without invading Greenland. We just have to have Baron Trump marry the princess of Denmark and then we'll be straight. And there's, you know, there's precedents for that. So we've got that going on.

[A]

Well, we're going to move into Venezuela and a little bit of.

[B]

I feel like we're in a little bit.

[A]

A little bit of Internet.

[B]

I know. I feel like it's bad. I feel like we're in Venezuela with Jimmy's. What are you talking about?

[A]

Yeah, well, we're gonna move into more of the Ryan Macbeth thing.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Super chat. I don't. We will. We'll figure out lunch. I don't think Mike's going anywhere but this studio table. We're probably gonna have to like, bring him a bucket to pee in.

[B]

And that's bad.

[C]

I mean, at this point, we just get him a wheelchair and hover around. We just get him a hover around.

[A]

We have to build him a ramp outside.

[C]

Poor bastard. Dude. I mean, like, it's funny, but it's also not because I.

[B]

It's one of those things. The pain has not stopped.

[C]

Yeah, I'm just dealing. I'm literally watching.

[A]

Can we wrap it in goon tape?

[C]

That's. I've already been. It's already been, you know, commented several times.

[A]

Do it.

[C]

I don't think.

[A]

Do it for Patreon, Mike.

[C]

I don't think that's a good idea.

[B]

We can wrap it.

[A]

I don't think that's a good idea.

[B]

I don't mind.

[A]

I don't.

[B]

If it gets wet. If it gets wet, it gets grippy.

[A]

Yeah. Do you want me to preface this Ryan McBest thing? Yeah, go for it.

[C]

I've got the. I've got the stuff ready to go.

[A]

A while back, we had some American aircraft go down in the ocean. That's right, The South China Sea.

[C]

That's correct.

[A]

And we made kind of a joke, like a conspiracy theorist day where we said, put on your tinfoil hat. What if it was a laser beam from China?

[C]

That's right.

[A]

We said that. We didn't really cover it too much. We didn't really go too far into it. It was like five minute conversation. I clipped it because it was funny.

[C]

It was funny.

[A]

And of course we got. We got like, again, I've said this before. We got kind of a borderline threatened by a big YouTuber named Ryan Macbeth.

[C]

That's right.

[A]

He is intelligence based YouTuber. He very, very smart.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Her sources are good. He's very credible. And he pretty much said, I'm gonna put y' all blast or you can invite me on your show.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And we're like, hey, pump the brakes there, man. All right? Chill out. Come on our show. He comes on our show and him and Jimmy have a discussion about what he had issues with. And Jimmy, you take it from there.

[C]

So basically I had. I watch him just because you know something, he gets it right A lot of the times. His. His background is in intelligence, though. I believe he was in the infantry for a while before he went over to intelligence. Right.

[A]

Really?

[C]

I.

[A]

He doesn't seem like an imagery guy.

[C]

Yeah, well, that's what he says. And I'm not.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

Yeah, I believe so. But he has a very intelligence bent world view, and that's fine. He really hates China. That's great. I hate China too. He hates the Chinese Communist Party. He hates the People's Liberation Army. I'm. I'm fine with hating all of those guys too. And when he and I had the conversation, and I'll bring it up, I basically said to him, hey, you don't like what we're doing in Venezuela? You think this is a waste of ordinance and we should be focused on China. Can you go ahead and play that clip, please, Lewis? Yeah, working on it.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

So while we're doing that. So we had a good natured, intellectual conversation that Mike and Tyler tried their hardest. I mean, they had to stay awake. Toothpicks under the eyes, trying to stay. That was.

[A]

It was. It was actually situations like that that help shape Shadowcast.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Jimmy realized he needed a platform to be able to. To go in depth in these con. These conversations without me and Mike falling asleep.

[C]

Well, and remember too, that I do a lot of research knowing that I'm only going to have 5 minutes, 10 minutes to talk about it, fling it back to you guys, and then we go. Because that's what makes this show interesting. Nobody wants to hear me prattle on about, you know. Yeah, prattle. Yeah.

[A]

You. You're good at it.

[C]

I'm not.

[B]

Mean.

[A]

I'm not. I'm not. You're good. I will say that. You do not.

[C]

You.

[A]

You. You insert those words very strategically. All right, go ahead.

[C]

So there is. Go ahead, go ahead. You're ready.

[B]

Is that prattling?

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

This is me proudly. I wanted to ask you about. Because you did a video recently about Venezuela and. And what's going on in Venezuela.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And we've been covering that pretty heavily. In fact, I think we're one of the few places that are actually like, hey, here's an update on what's going on in southcom. So your point of view, and correct me if I'm wrong, your point of view is that the Venezuela thing is a. I don't want to call it a boondoggle, but it's sort of a waste of ordinance. I think that's what you said. It's a waste of ordinance, a waste of combat power, and it's a waste of, you know, military ram space when we should be focusing on what Xi Jinping said where, hey, we're going to go to war with them in 2028. We need to save that ordinance and that combat power for that potential threat. My question is this. I mean, wouldn't it. It be advantageous for us to shore up the western hemisphere.

[B]

So you Would.

[C]

You would think that right now what we might be able to do is we might drop a couple of boxes. That's enough.

[A]

Mike had to stand up so he didn't fall asleep.

[C]

Right? Yeah. Hey, hey, hey. Stand up if you're.

[A]

Get in the back. Yeah.

[C]

Do some push ups.

[B]

I did the infantry.

[A]

I was in here sniffing hand sand attack.

[C]

Yeah. So you can see there now if. Can you bring up the. The thumbnail.

[A]

Can you lay mis terms what he just said that was significant.

[C]

He. Basically what he said was you would think that this is advantageous for us, but it. He basically goes on, you can go watch the whole clip. We'll. We'll. We'll clip it in. Because it's.

[A]

It's in one of the videos.

[C]

Yeah, it's in one of the best of, right?

[A]

Best of. Yeah.

[C]

Right. So this is what he re. Recently put out. And the bottom of that is why the arrest of Maduro is about China. And remember, here's a clip of him disagreeing with me when I said that this is about China. Right.

[A]

I didn't hear him disagree with you in the clip. Did I miss it?

[C]

No, he. He goes, you would think that, but. And I was like, okay, just go ahead and stop right there because you guys are falling asleep.

[A]

No, but. Okay, so he did say, you would think that, but. Right. So. So he is.

[B]

You guys are gonna fight.

[C]

I don't think we're gonna fist fight. What I. What I believe either. It. You said it best. I don't think we're gonna fistfight. What I. What I think happened is either, number one, I either moved the needle or more likely, Tyler was right and I was the. The guy. I was the low man on the totem pole that, you know, got it right. And the big reporter came in and was like, that's a great idea.

[A]

Yeah. And you know, let's move the needle. Mean.

[C]

Meaning I. I brought him over to my side like.

[A]

I thought you meant you influence.

[C]

I didn't. I. No.

[B]

The Guitar Hero. Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. No, I mean, Jimmy, you're very, very smart. I think it's just because you're a new face in the game.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

You have the same sources that a guy like Ryan Macbeth has.

[C]

I have them.

[A]

He's got over a quarter million YouTube followers, right?

[C]

I think it's a million.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

He's got a lot.

[A]

You've got the same amount of intel to me. You have. You have a more of an important background for us and our listeners because you're the like us. We. I can't relate to Orion Macbeth. No, I'm not a nerd. I'm a. Not a nerd. Yeah. You are that liaison between all that nerd and all of us, including yourself.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

You were the guy in the platoon that was informing people on nerdy.

[B]

Yeah, Jimmy.

[C]

My nickname in the platoon was the Professor. That was what they called.

[B]

What is he?

[A]

If he.

[B]

You're a nerd but not a Jimmy.

[C]

I'm a nerd tard.

[A]

Yeah, he's very smart. So. And I think it's because you're a new face in the game of the intelligence sphere. Yeah. People are gonna come at you. When I started this podcast three years ago, people were coming out. Cops were my worst enemy because they didn't like a new face telling them what's up. You know, now we can see your on them all the time.

[C]

And well, I think that, you know, first of all, I think down at the deep, deepest part of his soul, Brian Macbeth really like looked at that and went, yeah, that makes sense. And what we all thought was going to happen was when you called me at 5:50 in the morning on the 3rd of January and said, it's happening now. Right. And I went back to sleep. Yeah, I didn't go back to sleep.

[B]

I was still awake, so.

[C]

And I went, okay. Well, what I expected to find because I was searching through it, was the 82nd Airborne's mass tacked into. The marines are coming ashore. You know, air strikes are happening all over. Gunfight, you know, it's, it's, it's battlefield.

[A]

Jimmy, on the 240. Cheeseburger. Yeah.

[C]

Fries.

[A]

Fries.

[C]

That's a great one. Instead of surprise. But that's what we expected. What we got was this very surgical, very, very precise raid. And you know, again, what's the definition of a raid? It's a planned attack with a planned withdrawal. We're going in, we're doing certain things and we're leaving. We're not taking the ground. We're here to do a operational or strategic objective. In this case, it was strategic when that happened. And we went, it's over. Our special military operation lasted, you know, 30 minutes, boots on the ground, and three hours total flight time. Russia is in the fourth year of their special military operation. So we were all shocked. And now it's going to become like, what is going to happen next? I think that with Ryan Macbeth, I think he saw that and went, oh, I thought this was going to be a boots on the ground thing. And it might still be, but right now it's not. And that is not what I was expecting at all. And it really is focused on China. And I said that, I said that the day me and Mike went live. This, this was about China again. So that, that whole thing, I, I.

[A]

Think our, our Twitter, our ex viewers just surpassed our YouTube videos.

[B]

160. Holy.

[A]

Yeah, I have a question. I, I, for people watching on X. I don't, I don't know how X comments in real time. I'm not sure I saw one earlier.

[B]

Well, I said somebody, it said somebody.

[A]

Shared it, but it pops up.

[B]

It said X. Somebody shared this feed, but I missed a comment.

[A]

Yeah, I mean like, well, I feel.

[B]

A little, the little things red shows serious.

[A]

It's like do or did we have listeners that were watching us on YouTube but then decided to watch us on X because it's an option now? Or is this just people on X like, holy, these guys are back. Finally broadcast. Guess but that's true. Yeah, sorry, I didn't mean to cut you out.

[C]

That's okay. I'm yelling at Clint. So Clint and I had a two and a half hour conversation and now he's getting on me.

[B]

I can only imagine those two.

[A]

You guys should have a podcast.

[C]

Well, yeah.

[B]

Be called Infinite.

[C]

The Infinite Broadcast.

[B]

Clinton, Jimmy, it's still going.

[C]

This is a 24 hour feed.

[B]

I'm almost there.

[C]

So that, I mean with Clint, I'm like, Clint, you, you would have been happy to have me a CQ runner or you know, staff duty runner or.

[A]

You know, you would have kept him entertained. Dude. Yeah, I, I loved it.

[C]

So I, I loved, it's not that I'm, I'm smarter than anybody else. The biggest thing that I have that you two guys don't is I like doing the deep dive research on this. You don't have the time and he doesn't have the patience. Yeah, that's fair. I, I, I mean those are yalls words I'm quoting.

[A]

You definitely got the time. He don't have the patience.

[C]

He told me, he told me that when I called him about doing the Shadow cast, he's like, I don't have the patience to do what you do. I can't.

[A]

I know. And I will say this about. Mike does do a lot of deep dive on his, on the things that he's about, but I, even the things I care about don't even want to deep dive. Like there's nothing I want to deep dive ever. I want to deep dive.

[B]

The success of this show, a shallow dive. I'm like snorkeling, dude.

[C]

You're Jimmy's. Jimmy's pulling the Titanic up, dude.

[A]

Mike's doing foas.

[C]

People like, don't let him fool you, man.

[A]

Mike goes sleep on Mike, dude. He'll write warrants on you.

[C]

Yeah, like, dude, it's. It's.

[A]

He's already broke into people's houses.

[B]

It's kind of. It's kind of interest. It's kind of like, I failed everything in school until I got the police academy and got, like, a 98 average. You're like, finally found something I like.

[A]

What is it, like? Oh, so you did well in the police.

[B]

I did, yeah.

[A]

You're kind of a nerd.

[C]

Dude. I have a G.D. he's distinguished honor graduate.

[B]

Being called a nerd in law enforcement is actually knowing the constitution of the law. That's okay, Tyler, you know, vest off Chipotle. Yeah, man, I know. I know your stuff got stolen into court. I know your stuff got stolen. We'll get a report to you, man. We'll get back to you.

[A]

They phone those in now. I call them and tell.

[B]

What do you do then? Have you ever. Have you ever done anything towards my tail end, bud?

[A]

Not much.

[B]

What about the tail beginning? I don't think there's much going on there.

[A]

I was a hard charger when I was kidding.

[B]

I did see one video of you, like, walking the guy to the car in handcuffs.

[C]

Yeah, I. I saw that, too. The only one that shaving, too. Like, only one that shaving. And, you know, and you were kind of like, what's up, bro?

[A]

I updated one video of you, and you're yelling at some old lady.

[B]

She couldn't get medical help.

[C]

Or the one video of me where I was yelling at somebody on the side of the road, yelling, gonna you up there.

[B]

A whole of you? Yeah.

[A]

Oh, just John sent it to us.

[C]

Yeah, John.

[B]

No. Which one? I got plenty of stuff in uniform.

[A]

Mike's. Mike's dancing.

[B]

Oh, I didn't dance. It was more like a.

[A]

It was gayer than Dan. I've. I've got.

[C]

Dude, you think that's bad? That the militaries of Europe put out a tik tok? To scare the Russians? I bet. Do you want to see that?

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Okay, I can.

[A]

The military of Europe.

[C]

Is it one of them?

[A]

What's that even mean?

[C]

I. Dude, us. No, no, it wasn't us.

[A]

Like, I mean, when they inevitably can't do it again.

[C]

Oh, my God. Dude, you.

[A]

Hey, should we stream on X on Night Shift tonight?

[C]

Sure.

[A]

All right. For those that you don't know, we broadcast 11am every day, Monday through Friday. However, on Thursday nights, we have more of a podcast set up with all the boys get together and we break down videos and we have a bunch of laughs and it's a good time. We've never streamed it on X before, but I'm down to try it at 8pm Eastern Standard Time, if anybody would like to join. It's in a whole different studio. It's a whole nother show, but same dudes.

[C]

And Mike may not be here tonight.

[A]

May see we've moved on to not being here to may not being here. We're probably going to move on to Mike. Probably will be here. And then we're going to make it, make him feel guilty.

[B]

Mike's gonna leave seven seconds after this show's over and Mike is out of the building. Standing up helped that. Loosened it up a little bit.

[A]

Did the Mochin and Tylen. I help.

[B]

I don't know, dude. It's bad.

[C]

Did you get it, Lewis? It's in the email.

[B]

Is talking about. Lewis is playing.

[A]

Lewis just woke up.

[B]

Lewis is doing a rugus cube in his head, man show.

[A]

You want to do the aerobics cube tonight, Lewis? This guy can do an Arubik's cube in what, nine seconds?

[B]

11 was his record.

[A]

11 show was his record. Yeah, I got it. Your lifetime record was what, nine seconds.

[C]

To live from the emergency.

[B]

Then he brought the Rubik's. Rubik's Cube with the extra squares.

[A]

Oh, yeah, my son has.

[B]

That was like 40 minutes.

[C]

We got to figure out what's going on.

[A]

Yeah, we're. I mean, we're trying, dude. We are trying. It is a location like we would. In order to really fix this, we have to break lease and move studios.

[B]

I think you. I think we switch Internet.

[A]

All right, I'll call them today, dude. I'll come have AT T set up right now. I'll do anything. All right.

[C]

You ready, Lewis?

[A]

Yep.

[C]

Send it. So this is. This is the military.

[A]

At least the videos come through. Clear.

[C]

Yeah, the videos do come through.

[A]

Clear.

[C]

Look at this. Look at. Look at these.

[A]

What's it say? It's.

[C]

NATO releases a strong message to the military of Russia.

[A]

Okay, Are you guys ready? NATO. Does it have video or like gato?

[B]

I don't see video. Oh, I see the play button. Yeah, up top.

[C]

Play it. Oh, play this. That'll scare him.

[A]

I want Russia to win. I want Russia to win.

[B]

Not supposed to say that.

[A]

I. I don't wish death on anybody, but they are not ready for a battlefield No, I would probably laugh or cheer if an A10 flew over them.

[B]

Oh, no.

[A]

What is this?

[C]

I have no.

[A]

That clearly wasn't meant to threaten Russia. Somebody just labeled that.

[C]

Yeah, no, but I mean, like, let's. Let's be honest here. That was something that was professionally edited, recorded. They have tanks in the back. French probably. Sweet. It's probably the Swedes or maybe the Belgians or something. I don't know. It was Euro trash. That's what it was. It was Euro pop trash.

[A]

Wow.

[C]

So, I mean, like, yeah, Clint's like, I just became a communist.

[A]

Yeah, dude.

[C]

Like, I. I mean, if I saw that video, I would be like, they're ripe for the taking. Guys like that. They're. They're not dancing their way.

[B]

Hover again. No, on top of that, what you just did. No. Oh, yeah. On the views. Yeah.

[A]

Facebook's not.

[B]

Your Facebook's popular, man.

[A]

Shut the up.

[B]

Dude.

[C]

So I do wanna. I do want to address this because.

[A]

Bob.

[C]

Bob Lazar asked, when's the guy from Ukraine calling in? We don't know because we can't get.

[A]

A hold of him anymore. Yeah, he might.

[C]

So.

[A]

I'm not even kidding. He might be dead.

[C]

Yeah, like, we.

[A]

We.

[C]

Normally when I text him, I can at least see that my. My texts were. Were received. It's not going through to his phone anymore. So either he's got it off, which.

[A]

Is possible because they're you. They're able to use cell phone signal to target.

[C]

That's right. So either he's turned it off or he. You know, he.

[A]

Louis, you don't have to hover over anymore. Yeah. Remember.

[C]

Remember he said he told us on three different occasions?

[A]

Efren, right?

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

No Wyatt.

[B]

Why no Efron here?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Is that how you say it?

[C]

Yeah, Efron Package went out yesterday.

[B]

It'll be Tyler's.

[A]

No, mine went out the day before Efren. Even though it's 10 days late.

[B]

1100 on the shipping.

[C]

Yeah. So just to prove a point, since. Since Wyatt was a dual citizen in Ukraine, he would. If. If they did disband everybody, we would. He would have been able to talk to us. He can't. In the. He said to us on three different occasions, I'm going to be driving up and down the most dangerous road.

[B]

Got it. Today and before Tyler's.

[A]

I'm listening. Mike's making it about him.

[C]

That's okay.

[A]

Hijacking the show to make it about him.

[C]

I. I just. I'm worried about my friend, dude.

[A]

Like, I know we're all worried about Wyatt. Mike's worried about proving a point. Yeah, like a toxic relationship over here.

[C]

Well, I mean, he's probably high on drugs right now, so you can't really. It's. Dude, do you want a drink, man?

[B]

Like, no, I want nothing from you guys. I'll be in the parking lot by 101.

[A]

Yeah, so we also have the crusader.

[C]

Yeah, I. I have heard from him.

[A]

No, not that one.

[B]

Oh, I found where he streams. I watched it last night.

[C]

Was it good?

[B]

He was playing blackjack.

[A]

Does he stream at a certain time every day?

[B]

Randomly pops in.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You have to have a telegram account to log in. And then once you're in, he just like he was breaking down videos I watched.

[A]

Me and Heather watched Vegas Vacation last night. That is a movie loosely based off you and Jimmy.

[C]

I don't remember that.

[A]

Your chat. They go to Vegas.

[B]

Oh, with the park is closed and everything?

[A]

No, that's vacant. That's vacation. Oh, then there's Christmas vacation and then there's Vegas vacation. I forget your cousin Eddie. You're Clark Griswold. He's got a gambling addiction problem.

[B]

I watched Gypsy Vacation last night.

[C]

Well, I mean, if he's playing blackjack, you know those two mothers are gonna be.

[B]

Well, he broke down videos much different than we do. And then he was playing blackjack online so we could be cool.

[C]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

Gambling episode.

[A]

I don't know if we should do that. We'd have to get everybody's. No opinion on that.

[B]

Just send it.

[A]

Send it. We had an idea on how to do it. Jimmy, we haven't told you.

[C]

All right, well, I mean, that's okay. Less I know, the better.

[A]

Plausible deniability. Not informed in this decision. Nope.

[C]

Don't know nothing.

[A]

Yeah, but I could be like.

[C]

No, I don't remember that.

[A]

No.

[C]

As I eat my donut.

[A]

The crusader with a K. Yeah, he. Have we heard from him?

[C]

Yes, I have heard from him, but.

[A]

He likes to do phone callings. He doesn't like to do. Right.

[C]

He. He's a phone calling guy.

[A]

Well, we'll have to get more updates on. On Ukraine at some point. Maybe Monday. We can set it up.

[C]

I can. Yeah, I'll talk to him. I need to get him on. I've got him on signal. I think so I'll. I'll check with him on signal. And what is that? Oh, it's your chair. It sounds really weird coming through the headphones and the mic.

[B]

I'm interrupting and I'm pausing over here like a two year old jerking off. His chair.

[C]

Man.

[A]

Serious broadcast.

[C]

Yeah, we're very, very serious here. We do.

[B]

What about the crusader with a C?

[A]

No, we'll give up on that. Will you?

[B]

I think it's great tv.

[A]

I mean, if it does that, everybody knows who Gypsy Crusader is by now, right?

[B]

I would think.

[A]

I. I mean, like the Joker on Omegle. And, you know, he's actually. He went on Jake Shield podcast. He's legit in the podcast.

[B]

Aiden Ross.

[A]

Yeah, but Aiden Ross is in a podcast. A bad guess can make or break. When I say a bad guess, I mean like a. You know, people are already criticizing us for asking how you murder 6 million Jews in a.

[B]

He said it again.

[A]

Well, I'm just. I have questions. They said, we talked about this on one of the episodes this week. People were like, oh, no, it was mass graves. And then Jimmy went on to explain, like, okay, does anybody know where these mass graves were found? And Jimmy went to explain it. It's not what everybody's saying. So, yes, if you hear there were mass graves and you ended at that. Okay, that makes sense. But when you hear they weren't mass. Yeah, I mean, they were ex. Explainable.

[B]

Go there again.

[A]

I'm not a Holocaust denier, nor am I a believer in everything that's fed to me by the government.

[C]

Especially something like that where. I mean, when we look at modern. When I say modern, I mean within the last, you know, living memory, Right? Because pretty much everybody that was there for World War II is now dead in living memory. We have the Balkans, right? We have Bosnia, Kosovo, right? Serbs, Croats, Muslims, all killing each other, putting each other in mass graves. We found those mass graves, and there were hot, you know, thousands of people in them. Like, whole towns got emptied out, dug a ditch. Everybody got killed. And then they.

[A]

Wait, hold on. Do you have some. No, I was.

[C]

I was in.

[A]

Oh, okay. I. I saw him say, like, okay, so.

[C]

Yeah, we could have gotten him a hit.

[A]

Oh, really? Yeah.

[C]

How many were in there?

[B]

Thousands.

[A]

Thousands.

[C]

Thousands. All right, okay. So. And my dad was there in Bosnia too, right? Doing. Doing the other. I mean, what were you with the first Armored? Yeah, first Armored. Right. So that. That's a real thing. Like, we. We know what those look like, the mass graves that did, you know, First Armor.

[A]

Because he told you earlier, you know what? Un. His.

[C]

Well, he said he was in first Armored, and I knew that the first Armored was there because my dad was there and he told me which one units were.

[A]

I got saying, don't sleep on Jimmy, dude.

[C]

He knows his. So I Think. I think the guys from. The guys that got captured from. That was Kosovo. Was that Kosovo or Bosnia? Them dudes that got captured by Milos. Fix dudes. That was Bosnia. Okay. And I think those were now Jamie's first Armored. Yeah. Now I am like, cross.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

They crossed the wrong border with a Humvee and got into a gunfight, got captured, and they were there from first Armored.

[A]

All right.

[C]

So anyway, that's. That's what a real mass grave looks like. We have somebody in the room who's actually seen that.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But not gonna put him on camera.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

He's not ready for social media, but Friend of mine I've known since I was about 8, 9, 5 somewhere. We met back in Jersey, and we have still maintained contact throughout the last 45 years. Yeah. We now live two hours apart.

[C]

I thought it was Macho man when he first walked in. He's like. I'm like, macho Man's dead. How is this guy walking in here?

[A]

You have a phenomenal beard, sir. Yes, I will say that it is.

[C]

It is glorious.

[B]

21 year military retired.

[C]

11 Bravo E7. 21 years.

[A]

I knew you're a real.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

He was like, I didn't make no first hour. I wasn't no sergeant major, neither. I was a platoon daddy. But.

[B]

The.

[C]

The mass graves that were found in Russia that were done by the mobile death squads, they were not that big by comparison compared to what we saw in Bosnia.

[A]

It would have to be. It would have to be tens of thousands of mass graves. Yeah.

[C]

Equal.

[A]

What people are saying it's not possible.

[C]

There were some mass graves that were found by the Russians on their way back. Right. That were dug up by artillery and. And everything else. And was like, yeah, there's a couple hundred people in here that. That really sucks.

[A]

Heather said you couldn't.

[C]

I just read that anyways. What's that? You couldn't identify.

[B]

Today's the day, man.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

We got a busy day today. I can't. We have meetings and other.

[B]

@T. Come put it in.

[A]

Right. Today.

[B]

Yeah. Well, they're not going to come today, but.

[A]

So just come put it in at.

[C]

This is why I have to do the shadow cast, because I get, like, five minutes.

[A]

I'm sorry. Go ahead. No, for those of you watching or listening right now, our video. We. For the last month, we've been having Internet problems where our clarity is going to. It's not a hardware issue. It's not a software issue. It's an Internet issue. It's been verified by, like, 14 things but the problem is location of where we're at. And we run into the same issue with every provider. We're just gonna take a chance. We had a couple lucky days where we didn't. We call it going potato. We didn't go potato. We thought we were in the clear. We can't obviously have this, you know, it's annoying. You guys stuck around. You support us. You guys want to hear what we have to say, and we really appreciate that. The least we can do is give you some good, quality show. So we are going to handle that, I guess, today.

[C]

So. Yeah, that. I mean, still. We're still doing great on numbers. Even though we. Even though we look like we're live.

[A]

From Minecraft, we look like we're live from Venezuela.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

All right. So.

[C]

So, by the way, are you guys going to send me down to Venezuela as the Venezuela correspondent? Like, is that in the budget?

[A]

Not yet.

[C]

I do.

[A]

As long as you wear.

[C]

I could take the.

[A]

I could take.

[C]

I will. I. I can take the. The Israel part out because they don't actually stamp your passport. They just give you a little card to put in there. You were in Israel?

[B]

It was one of them.

[C]

I went there.

[A]

Oh, you're the reason why. That you've infiltrated us.

[C]

Yeah, yeah. I actually. They thought I was infiltrating them. When I went there, I spent. I spent two and a half hours in handcuffs.

[A]

Really.

[C]

When I flew into Israel. Oh, yeah.

[A]

Why?

[C]

Because I was a military contractor and I had been to a couple of competitions as a sniper with Israelis. They knew who the I was. Yeah, yeah. Drink, drink, drink. Except me. I have to be stone cold sober.

[A]

But, well, it is lunchtime.

[C]

Yeah. Sorry to drink it at 10am It's 12:47. He's sober. Not me. Not me. I can't drink. I gotta have nothing but water. And I asked for a C4, and it never.

[A]

Oh, I didn't hear you. I'm sorry, dude. Yeah, I'll go get you one right now.

[B]

Let me go get.

[C]

It's almost done, man.

[A]

We got.

[C]

We got 10 minutes left.

[A]

You want to show them your unique dude?

[C]

Yes, please. Put it on Patreon. Yeah, we'll put it up. It's bad, but when I flew into.

[B]

Israel, I actually have big legs.

[C]

I flew from. I flew from Erbil to Tel Aviv, and when I got off the plane, it was not like a. It was like, let me go get my bags. And it was. I got grabbed by the arm.

[A]

But why?

[C]

Because I was an American military contractor that had just flown from Iraq into Israel. And they wanted to know what the. I was doing there because they thought I was an American spy.

[A]

What were you doing there?

[C]

I was there visiting for tax reasons, because it was cheaper to fly back to Tel Aviv than to fly back to the United States, because depending on how much time you spend in the United States, you have to have a.

[B]

Shirt on that had 6 million with a question mark or something.

[C]

No, I did not. But that was the first time I was like that. That was the very first time I was like, oh, Israel is not our friend. They are not our friends.

[B]

That's what they tell us.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Best friends.

[A]

And I still got. We still got the. We got somebody still commenting on our stuff.

[C]

Oh, yeah?

[A]

Yeah. About how you're wrong about the biblical stuff.

[B]

Oh, who?

[A]

I don't want to say it.

[C]

Is it that guy?

[A]

Yeah, it's that guy.

[C]

He's wrong. I know you're wrong. You're wrong. They're the. The. The modern Jews are the descendants of the Pharisees that crucified Christ. You can't sit here and tell me that we have the same God when they deny the fact that Christ was divine and killed him. Sorry, we don't have the same God anymore. And pretending like we do is. It's specious.

[B]

And.

[A]

And, you know, he's. That's not a new word he's already used. I forgot what it was. But we. And let's clarify. When we talk about Jews in Israel, we talk about two separate things. We talk about Israel as a political element in our geopolitics, and then we also just talk about the Jews. So just because one's probably wrong doesn't mean that, like, if. Like, I hate the fact that Israel has so much influence on the United States. I have no disdain at all for people that are Jewish at all. Nope.

[C]

But I can also sit here and say, wrong. But I. I can also sit here and say, hey, Clint just sent a dollar. Thank you, Clint. $1.

[B]

But we only get, like, 20 cents because somebody takes it from us.

[C]

Oh, man. So I. I can sit here and say that biblically, as a Christian, as a follower of Yeshua, as a follower of Christ, the Jews, as we have them today, are one tribe of 12. They are the descendants of the people that crucified Messiah. They are the ones that have the most interest in denying Messiah. They do it regularly. We are not their friends. They are not our friends. And still say, I believe whatever you want, but don't sit here and lie to me and tell me that as a Christian, I have to believe that they're still God's chosen people. They're not. We already know that. Ephraim gives 99 cents. Thank you, Efren. For C4. Oh, man. So if you, if you hear that argument from your soft handed, effeminate quarter zip pastor, now you grimaced. That was not directed at anybody whose pastors actually dressed like that. That was more from my own.

[A]

How does a grimace dress?

[C]

A grimace? Soft handed, effeminate. I.

[B]

He wasn't paying attention.

[C]

I grimace. He. I said it. And he goes, oh, I thought you.

[A]

Said grimace, like from McDonald's. The big purple monster.

[C]

Jesus Christ, man.

[A]

Sorry, my bad, my bad.

[C]

Well, I. I said this on my, my, my, my live stream last night. I was like, can't say it.

[A]

Sorry.

[C]

One day. One day Tyler is going to be less and less in front of the camera and more and more behind the scenes because he's already starting to show those tendencies and he's just going to be the cosmic clock winder.

[A]

I love being here. I love not having to do research because I get to hear it firsthand.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And I feel like that's what separates us is like, people can call me stupid and retarded and this guy doesn't retire by all the time, but I really feel like that makes for a better broadcast when the people that are talking are like, genuinely surprised about the information.

[B]

Well, you commonly say, tell it to me like a 5 year old.

[C]

Or like my, my personal favorite, and I've watched this many times, is he'll. He'll lean back in his chair and I'll go, I know nothing about this. Tell me about this. And it's like. And because I know there's somebody on the other end of the screen saying the exact same thing.

[A]

I like Greenland. I didn't know that. Yeah, we're gonna.

[C]

We're gonna own Greenland, man. I mean, that's why we've got pictures of Marco Rubio dressed up as a Viking.

[A]

So, I mean, those memes are actually funny now.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Now that you know, know, like, you would have scrolled past him. Like, I have no idea what this means. There's one where they, like, AI put him together in like a. A suit of, like, every place he's gonna control. And it looks like a. Like he's got, like, space boots on. I mean, it's ridiculous. Like, he's gonna be emperor of the moon here pretty soon.

[A]

So he's probably loving Trump now.

[C]

Well, yeah, but I mean, Marco, we. We've all been dealing With Marco Rubio for a while. He's been a fixture down here in Florida politics for a good long time. Not a big fan of his stand with law enforcement, though.

[A]

What's his stand?

[B]

Yeah, he was pretty. Wasn't really tough in our favor, especially when.

[C]

What was it? What was the big one? Is Trayvon. Yes. Trayvon Martin.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Well, we had nothing to do with that. That wasn't a law enforcement.

[B]

Yeah, but it became a law enforcement by nature. Were you here?

[A]

It was killed by.

[B]

Yeah, but it became.

[C]

Remember, there was protests.

[B]

It became a police issue right away. They associated George Zimmerman as a former security guard.

[C]

Right.

[B]

To law enforcement. And Obama said it could have been his son.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

Not hearing how Marco Rubio did not support. He didn't.

[B]

He didn't stand up.

[C]

Yeah, he didn't.

[A]

He.

[C]

He pretty much backed away from that situation. And then the pulse shooting. Right.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

When. When Pulse happened, I mean, it was very much. I mean, he took a hard stance against.

[A]

Was he a senator?

[C]

Yes, he was a senator.

[A]

Is he still a senator?

[C]

No, he is the Secretary of State.

[A]

I'm asking, dude, can you do that stuff while you have Secretary of State?

[C]

No, you cannot.

[A]

You have to give up your position.

[C]

I mean, he's basically the dictator of the world at this point. He's probably got more power.

[A]

He's Trump's sergeant at arms.

[C]

Yeah, he really is.

[A]

Shut up, Mike. I can ask questions. This is a safe room.

[C]

Like, dude, the thing that's great about this is Tyler was the guy at the pointy end of American foreign policy at one point.

[B]

You probably organized the snow cone outfits on the.

[C]

This would be a great idea, guys.

[A]

Go over. Great. I can make.

[B]

I can make costumes if I want.

[A]

Go over. Great.

[C]

So, yeah, I don't even remember where.

[B]

We'Re talking about how he pulse Senator Rubio. We're talking him.

[C]

So. Senator Rubio, Ted Malone. Thank you.

[A]

He.

[C]

He's also got a pretty big hard on because he's Cuban.

[A]

Right?

[C]

He's Cuban descent. He really wants us to take over Cuba. And it was like. Like he even said it. Like, this puts everybody on notice, including Cuba. And there's like a moment where, like, Trump looks at him like, oh, we're going to work.

[B]

Invading Cuba.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

His parents are from Cuba. Yeah.

[C]

Actually, Clint's asking about the Galactic Senate from Star Wars. Justin. Donut Shop, you guys, by the way, you need to go watch Donut Shop. You need to go watch his podcast, because it is.

[A]

I'm on it. Yeah, you're on it. Yeah.

[C]

The only one's not as Mike. He only interviewed the people being sued.

[B]

Nope, I'm not. I'm never going on now.

[A]

Mike's like that too. Mike's petty.

[B]

I'm busy that day.

[C]

You think 50 Cent is petty, Mike? Mike will argue with you and send emails to you.

[B]

Work have.

[C]

He has. So, yeah, Marco Rubio's got a pretty big hard on to go into Cuba. And every time.

[A]

Big hard on.

[B]

I can understand. Like, obviously his parents went through.

[C]

Yeah, they, they fled communism in 50s.

[B]

They fled.

[C]

Yeah. So I, I think, I think very quickly we're going to end up. Oh, here's the even better part.

[A]

So quick question before. Yeah. Are you able to put the ghostbed logo down on the bottom of the screen like we used to do? We need to start doing that. I don't want it to cover up the date or just the ghost. The footer.

[B]

Fooder.

[A]

Did you just say that?

[C]

That's what I call it, the footer.

[B]

This thing you're not gonna get on anybody about pronouncing fooder, bro. You don't even know if Rubio is still a senator while he's a Secretary of State.

[A]

That's what I call it. All right, the footer.

[B]

No.

[A]

Yeah. But I didn't know if we could position it in a different way. So it's not over.

[C]

It's not over there.

[B]

This is over the day.

[A]

I'm looking at it.

[B]

You get one.

[C]

Not on here, it's not. I'm looking at it on YouTube right now.

[A]

It's not over the date. Here, put the footer back up. It's over the date.

[B]

But not on YouTube.

[C]

Not on YouTube.

[B]

Because it's condensed.

[C]

Yeah, it's condensed on YouTube. I'm telling you, man. Like, I'll. I can see it right here. 1, 8, 20.

[A]

Is it too distracting? We're supposed to be running these on the bottom.

[C]

No, it's not distracting. I mean, it's only distracting because it's HD and we are Minecraft.

[A]

That's fair.

[C]

It's like, I mean, like, of anything. It's great for Ghost Bed because it's like, wow, that really draws in the eye. But these chuckleheads on camera, so that doesn't make sense.

[A]

What?

[B]

That same logo is being streamed the same way.

[C]

I know. That's what I.

[B]

That's why I don't think it's entertaining it.

[C]

But I. I think we've got something going on. I think what we need to do is try running, like one day where we know we're not bringing anybody in live. Try streaming on the other one and see if we go potato.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

I'm telling you, you don't want that one. Stream labs, you cannot. We can't bring people in remote.

[C]

That's what, that's what I just said.

[B]

So we.

[C]

On a day we know we're not going to bring anybody in remote, but we've won listening.

[A]

We've run, we've run podcasts in there on stream yard and there was no. It was fine the whole time.

[C]

Very rarely.

[A]

That's not a good.

[B]

Never once in the history of the show went to that under the other program. That's all I'm gonna say. Never. Once.

[C]

I, I.

[A]

Everybody's got solutions. It doesn't work.

[C]

And then they go, oh, I am a contractor. I am not an owner, therefore I have no say in this.

[A]

All right, we're gonna wrap it up here, guys. Thank you so much. Every single day, 11 to 1pm The Anti Hero broadcast is live on YouTube X and Facebook. It's massive appeal on Facebook, but we're growing it all.

[B]

Two people.

[C]

Go back up.

[B]

List them. Show me the numbers.

[A]

Oh, no, no.

[B]

This hover zero.

[A]

Might be a connection issue. Might be a connection issue. Other than that, we are on Spotify, Apple, Apple, itunes, all that stuff that that usually comes up about an hour after we go off air. We will be live tonight. YouTube and X. The Night Shift. Different podcast, different vibes, same dudes. We will see you tonight. If not Tonight, tomorrow at 11am on YouTube X and Facebook.

[C]

Later. Dogs.

[A]

Sa. Team for life.