01/13/2026: PATREON TUESDAY...

Summary

The Antihero Broadcast

Podcast: The Antihero Broadcast

Episode: 01/13/2026: PATREON TUESDAY...
Date: January 13, 2026
Host(s): Tyler, Mike, Jimmy
Special Guests: Jerry

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Episode Overview

The January 13, 2026 episode of The Antihero Broadcast, a discussion-heavy roundtable aimed at veterans, first responders, and blue-collar Americans, delivered exactly what its title promised: a candid, weapons-free “Patreon Tuesday” session. The show, usually brash, energetic, and unfiltered, was a blend of current events (with a focus on geopolitics and law enforcement), fitness/supplement deep-dives, and audience engagement. The hosts debated nuclear war, U.S.-Iran tensions, National Guard/federal conflicts, fitness routines, the practicality and ethics of steroid use, and the challenges facing law enforcement today. Community questions and stories were frequently addressed, with plenty of camaraderie, jokes, and the trademark unpolished language and tone.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Community Engagement & Patreon Tuesday

• The episode was formatted "weapons free," meaning the hosts were open to any questions or topics from Patreon supporters.
• Plans for community surveys to gather feedback – specifically about what listeners do and do not like about the show.
• Several technical glitches and user feedback about the merchandise store and Patreon features.

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2. Situational Update: U.S.-Iran Tensions & Military Readiness

[07:21 - 13:31]

• Jimmy’s insight: Recent protests in Iran, speculation about U.S. action, and implications of recent Donald Trump Truth Social posts.
• The team dissected military signals—such as the absence of a U.S. carrier in the Persian Gulf and the appearance of the “doomsday plane” (E-4B National Airborne Operations Center) at LAX, reading these as probable power moves rather than imminent military strikes.
• Psychological operations and cyber warfare are suspected as the likely next moves, rather than conventional military actions.
• Notable quote:
  “There's no carrier right now in the Persian Gulf... I think what they'll do is try to disrupt the internet jammers that are jamming Starlink... then start blasting intercepted phone calls and radios over all the media outlets... of the panic in the Iranian regime.”
  — Jimmy, [08:27]

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3. Nuclear Warfare: Realities & Misconceptions

[14:55 - 20:41]

• Discussion on modern nuclear bombs vs. Hiroshima/Nagasaki—today's weapons are orders of magnitude more powerful but with less persistent fallout.
• Jimmy detailed the difference between fission (atomic) and thermonuclear (hydrogen) bombs and dispelled myths about endless radioactive wastelands.
• Notable quote:
  “Modern nuclear weapons don’t typically have the amount of radioactive fallout people think. It's not like Chernobyl... after a few weeks, it’s just destroyed and terrible—but not nuclear forever.”
  — Jimmy, [19:53]
• Banter about survivability scenarios and likely targets in the U.S.

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4. Law Enforcement News and Community Safety

[18:14 and 21:57 onward]

• Discussions on recent legal issues: incendiary device attack in Greenville, Supreme Court transgender sports arguments.
• Jimmy provided intelligence-gathering techniques (“how many pizzas are being delivered to the Pentagon” as a readiness indicator).
• Talked about how federal and local agencies interact, recent ICE (Immigration and Customs Enforcement) enforcement controversies, and consequences of non-cooperation by local officials:
• Notable quote:
  “If you stop this guy and it says hold for ICE and you don't do it, you are the catalyst for the violence that's about to happen in your street.”
  — Jimmy, [94:11]

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5. Fitness, TRT, and Supplementation Among First Responders

[36:32 and throughout 41:53 - 81:43]

• Deep-dive into fitness standards among police and military—team workouts, CrossFit, and cardio strategies.
• Mike and Tyler discussed testosterone supplementation (TRT), Anavar, Deca, and the practicalities and medical oversight involved—specifically for first responders and veterans.
• The hosts shared personal anecdotes and before/after stories about getting in shape, challenges of aging, and mental health related to body image.
• Notable quote:
  “You can take as many steroids as you want—if you don't eat right, you won’t get there. That was diet, that was discipline.”
  — Mike, [66:18]
• Debunked "roid rage" myths and discussed balancing testosterone and estrogen.
• Candid conversation about affordable access to hormone therapy for veterans/first responders via Human Performance TRT.

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6. Group Dynamics & Mental Health in the First Responder Community

• Multiple hosts disclosed their journeys with discipline, aging, and the need for motivation and accountability.
• Mutual ribbing, encouragement about fitness and dieting (“no more McDonald's bags in the trash can”), and audience shoutouts.

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7. Internal Drama, Transparency & “Weapons Free” Honesty

[82:23 onward]

• The hosts briefly addressed a recurring figure—Vanessa—who had caused operational and ethical issues in their business network.
• Open admissions about firing her due to "fraudulent" activity, withholding business leads, and conflicts of interest.
• Affirmed a culture of transparency and tough love within their network:
  • “...dude, she was poison, dude. Treachery.” — Tyler, [85:01]

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8. Special Guest Segment: Jerry Joins

[88:04 onward]

• Jerry, a retired law enforcement officer, joined to discuss his post-career life, canine competitions (“barn hunt”), and the differences in community and camaraderie after retirement.
• Lengthy, energetic discussion of the (political and practical) fallout when cities prohibit local law enforcement from working with federal agencies—especially ICE.
  • Advocated that non-cooperation “is treason,” and cautioned that using the National Guard to block ICE would “come close to unlawful orders” and set the stage for dangerous precedent.

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9. Law Enforcement Leaders and Local Politics

• Critique of powerful sheriffs with effectively no term limits (e.g., Grady Judd) and the local politics that shape law enforcement culture in Florida and elsewhere.
• Jerry was playfully encouraged to run for sheriff.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On military/cyber operations:
  “They're probably going to do some cyber and psychological operations, like...take out these jammers, give you guys the Internet, and then blast intercepted phone calls and radios over every...media outlet that we can…of the panic in the Iranian regime, because they are panicking.”
  — Jimmy, [08:27]

• On surviving nuclear war:
  “Humans in general are very, very resilient. We've survived pretty significant extinction events before. I think we’ll survive that.”
  — Jimmy, [15:59]

• On fitness, age, and TRT:
  “I was relying on just, like, I can run fast. Doesn't matter. Now it's like, I have to get better every day...Something changed in my mid-30s.”
  — Mike, [55:01] “TRT...won’t put you on stage with Ronnie Coleman, but it's definitely a necessity—get on that body back to...optimal area.”
  — Mike, [64:11]

• On failed cooperation with ICE:
  “If you stop this guy and it says hold for ICE and you don't do it, you are the catalyst for the violence that's about to happen in your street.”
  — Jimmy, [94:11]

• On steroids and supplementation:
  “You can take as many steroids as you want—if you don't eat right, you won’t get there. That was diet, that was discipline.”
  — Mike, [66:18]

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Important Timestamps

• [07:21] – Trump’s statement on Iran and likelihood of military action
• [09:22] – The “doomsday plane” appears at LAX for the first time in 50 years
• [14:55] – Differences between World War II vs. modern nuclear weapons
• [21:57] – Tactical decision-making and likely nuclear targets in the U.S.
• [41:53] – Law enforcement fitness, team workouts, and need for gym culture
• [60:01–66:41] – Panelists share their fitness journeys, TRT experiences, and before/after stories
• [82:53] – Open discussion about business associate Vanessa and corporate ethics
• [88:04] – Guest Jerry arrives, “barn hunt” stories, and transition into law enforcement/policy
• [94:11] – “Catalyst for violence” quote: ICE detainers and local political conflicts
• [97:44] – National Guard vs. federal government: dangers of an unlawful order
• [107:29] – Heated debate on Democrat/Republican polarization among U.S. voters

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Tone, Language, & Style

• The show is deeply informal, irreverent, and unapologetic—language is coarse, loyal to a blue-collar, first-responder audience.
• Camaraderie is central—hosts poke fun at each other, share personal struggles and triumphs, and involve the audience in real time (“weapons free” means no holds barred).
• Dense with military and law enforcement references: unit culture, jargon, in-group knowledge, sometimes explicit but always in context of building solidarity or conveying hard-won experience.
• Aspirational and cautionary: The group is solution-oriented, calling out poor leadership, championing physical/mental health, and pushing for transparency.

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Closing

Patreon Tuesday delivered a rich, unscripted conversation covering everything from world affairs to personal growth. The show offers a mix of actionable intelligence, straight talk on first responder wellness, and a space for the unfiltered community input that defines the Antihero brand.

“JV team for life.”

Transcript

[Tyler]

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[Mike]

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[Jimmy]

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[Tyler]

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[Jimmy]

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[Tyler]

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[Mike]

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[Tyler]

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[Mike]

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[Tyler]

Anyway, dude, we need to make. We need to make our broadcast merch store a little bit more appealing to the eye. I don't know how to do that, though. But if you teach me, I'll do it.

[Mike]

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[Tyler]

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[Mike]

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[Tyler]

All right, boys, so it's Patreon Tuesday. Like I said, weapons free.

[Jimmy]

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[Tyler]

Yeah, it'll be. I mean, obviously this will be released on. This will be released on YouTube for members only after it's live, and then it'll be released for the audio side of it to complete the five days. But. But yeah, this is for the boys to engage with us and ask questions like they did, because those are some pretty good ones.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, we got to do that. We got to do that poll that you were talking about yesterday, you know, where we, you know, kind of get the feedback of, like, we know what you like. What do you hate?

[Mike]

Everything.

[Tyler]

Yeah. So me and Jimmy were talking first off, Dylan says, yeah, wait, you order something, Takes them like a month to ship that.

[Mike]

That was. That was a credit card. That was a mic. That was the website, everything.

[Tyler]

Oh, it was a website's fault. Oh, gotcha.

[Mike]

You gotta go order. That was because Natalie had her credit. If you let me finish, Natalie had her credit card on there. And then when she removed it. You're such a busy man. We couldn't get that other credit card entered.

[Tyler]

So I don't. How does Natalie's credit card end up on there?

[Mike]

She had to sign, like, she signed up for everything under hers. Like, started the program, started the site, paid for, like, got her stuff, because you have to enter that stuff when you open a Shopify account. And then we transitioned to ours. We changed everything over but the payment method, and that was where the hang up was. So it's all ready to go.

[Tyler]

All right. Yeah. Me and Jimmy were talking about doing a. A survey, kind of like how we do the Patreon giveaways, but asking questions like, what got you into anti air broadcast? What keeps you watching? What do you like about it? What don't you like about it? Like, just honest. And we can trust the Patreon people. And, you know, obviously we don't if they're. If they're still watching and supportive, even if they don't like something, but multiple people don't like it. I feel like, you know, that's feedback we need because we've never actually tried that before.

[Mike]

If they're.

[Tyler]

But I don't know. Yeah, well, I mean, we can keep it anonymous, but I highly doubt these guys care.

[Jimmy]

No, they don't. And nor should they, by the way?

[Tyler]

So not many reflections from yesterday. I don't think there is. Jimmy's shadow cast dropped this morning. Yeah.

[Jimmy]

Yeah. Hey, look, go look. I, I started filming earlier. It was 10 o'. Clock.

[Tyler]

Why do you wait so late to film?

[Jimmy]

Last night there was, as I was pulling all this stuff together and I'm getting all the information and I'm doing all the, the research because in this particular case, I hadn't, I had done research on, you know, what was going on in Iran. I hadn't done research on what do we have to do stuff with. So I have to go figure out, like, what units are there, where are they located? It, Sea, air and land. And then I'm looking at, you know, how busy is the Pentagon right now? How busy is CENTCOM right now? How busy are the pizza places near those, those installations? Like, is there a lot of people in the parking lot? Is there not a lot of people in the parking lot? What, what is being said, you know, what's going on around the world? And then what. Right as I was getting ready to film at about 8 o', clock, a bunch of information came out that said Trump's gonna strike within 48 to 72 hours. And I was like, okay, I want to get some more information on that. So I went and dug down on that. By the time I realized that, you know, and I go into it on the shadow cast, like, why? I think it's, I, I was like, okay, it's about 9:45, got everything set up, ready to go, and then started filming about 10:07 and then I asked or no, I started filming about 10 and then I hit the wrong button and I had to start over and I had to figure out how to start over.

[Mike]

So Trump sent this out this morning on Truth Social. Iranian patriots keep protest, protesting. Take over your institution. Save the names of the killers and abusers. They will pay a big price. I have canceled all meetings with Iranian officials until the senseless killing and protest.

[Tyler]

Stop.

[Mike]

Help is on the way. Make Iran great again. President Donald Trump.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, so.

[Mike]

Make Iran great again.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, I mean, make everybody great again. I mean, I, I really don't. By the way, found another use for goon tape. Kind of a really good stress ball, you know, as you're sitting here thinking. But I really, like, everybody was expecting strikes and I, I mean, that's the kind of targeted rhetoric that we're kind of used to seeing when he gets ready to do stuff. But he normally does that for a while before he goes and does Anything. And I do think help is on the way, but I don't think it's going to be in the shape of bombs.

[Tyler]

And Rangers, what do you think it's going to be?

[Jimmy]

Well, I went into a lot of it on the Shadow cast, but I'll basically just say that I think that it's probably. Well, I mean, this is the Patreon, so, you know, they, they're going to watch anyway. There's no carrier right now in the Persian Gulf. There's not even one close. So I mean, it would be two weeks before one could get there. I think that more than likely what they're going to do is try to figure out a way to disrupt the, the Internet jammers that are jamming Starlink. And they're probably going to do some cyber and psychological operations, you know, like, hey, we're going to take out these jammers, we're going to give you guys the Internet, and then we're gonna start blasting all of the intercepted phone calls and radios over every single, you know, media outlet that we can, whether it be television, radio, or the Internet of the panic in the Iranian regime, because they are panicking.

[Mike]

Do you know the. I'm sure you know this. We have. Yeah, the doomsday plane. You're aware that exists? Okay, yeah, I follow that. Okay, so it's a 747. That is basically when everything goes to. And the Earth, like it's uninhabitable. He can fly up. The President, all his people can get up above in the sky and fly around. It has never been seen in 52 years. I will tell you yesterday there's video of it landing at LAX in Los Angeles. First time it's been seen. I follow.

[Tyler]

How long can they stay up in the airport?

[Jimmy]

You know, I don't, I mean, it's got in flight refueling capability, so as long as the engines are cranking.

[Mike]

But it's, it's something that's never been seen before. And there's a, there's a site I follow that just catches all the planes. They just, all they do is watch the planes land at LAX because there's so many celebrities and so many crazy things. This thing landed in Los Angeles the other day. First time I've ever been seen.

[Jimmy]

I think that, I mean, without having done any research on that, which is. It's still pretty cool. Remember that right next to LAX is Nellis Air Force Base.

[Mike]

But it's just ironic that you never. It's like the, you know, it's one of those things in the depths of the ocean that no human has ever seen. Everybody's talked about it, and everybody was in there going, oh, this is so cool. It's so, so cool. And then one guy goes, well, if this thing's landing in public V, you think that's cool? Or is there something really bad getting ready to happen that you're all of a sudden seeing this thing after 50 years?

[Tyler]

I don't think they would do that, do you? I think that's got to be a power move to land it at lacks.

[Mike]

I mean, like, it wasn't broadcast. It's just one site. Literally has a camera set up. I don't know where it's at, but all they do is document every single. I can't remember the site. That's what sucks. Yeah. So six Jedis from our Patreon said he actually saw it land from his hotel room.

[Tyler]

Is it bit.

[Mike]

It's a 747B. It's huge. It's got some weird stuff on top that's a little different than a regular plane. The way it landed, everybody was like, yeah, it's definitely a Navy pilot. Like, he came down quick and like. Like, he's like, you know, land that. Used to land it on a carrier. So you gotta figure. And then we were talking about this yesterday. Like, there's certain jobs in the government that we don't even know exist at this. Think about it. There's guys that are piloting and maintaining the doomsday plane that nobody's ever seen. But there's a whole crew.

[Jimmy]

There's maintainers out there fixing that airplane.

[Mike]

Yeah. And then, like, Jimmy talk here.

[Jimmy]

I got. I got the picture of it.

[Mike]

Okay.

[Tyler]

That'S it.

[Mike]

Yeah, that was. It landed. That's like a live picture. Landed yesterday. I think it was yesterday.

[Tyler]

I wouldn't even.

[Jimmy]

It doesn't say President of the United States on it.

[Mike]

It says United States of America on the side.

[Jimmy]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

What's the difference between that and Air Force One?

[Jimmy]

Well, if the aliens attack, we can coordinate our. Our Air Force attacks directly from that aircraft, as we saw in the documentary Independence Day.

[Tyler]

Well, that. But that was Air Force One, wasn't it?

[Jerry]

Yeah.

[Jimmy]

I'm making a joke. I mean. Yeah, that. I think.

[Tyler]

Okay, go ahead.

[Jimmy]

The. The Air Force One has a very different kind of mission. Air Force One is about moving the president from point A to point B. Bring it. And remember, the Air Force One has, like, armored limousines that it carries in it, and it's got gear and all kinds of stuff.

[Tyler]

This thing one carries Limousines? Yeah.

[Mike]

Oh, yeah.

[Tyler]

What?

[Jimmy]

Yeah, armored limousines.

[Tyler]

I thought it was. Don't you have to decipher between a cargo plane and a personnel plane?

[Mike]

It's got like a basement.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, it's, it's, it doesn't. I mean, that, that they, they have, they have so much on Air Force One, it's ridiculous. Air Force One is, is much more of a luxurious, like, hey, we're flying the plane. You know, we're going to meet with, you know, Benjamin Netanyahu to give him his shekels. But this plane is much more about like the nukes are flying. We're flying over the United States and we're going to be coordinating the nuclear response as well as, you know, trying to figure out like, what, who the is left and coordinating the military and, and communicating with other nations.

[Tyler]

Okay.

[Mike]

Like, and I just uploaded that video that's there is the plane landing. There's actual video of it. If you want to throw that up there.

[Jimmy]

I, I would be willing to bet that that has something to do with it getting some maintenance or upgrades.

[Mike]

But it's just crazy that all of a sudden it's visible. Like they haven't shown it in 50. I know Trump likes to flip want.

[Tyler]

He does. I think it's a power move. I think it's, he really does throw.

[Jimmy]

His dick around, man.

[Tyler]

I think it's a power move. I don't think if it would, if. I don't think if the American people had anything to worry about, they would fly that.

[Mike]

And to think that's 50 years old. What have we developed since that we don't even know exist as far as some type of prototype, I mean, new plane like in that, in that fashion.

[Jimmy]

I, I mean, I've heard rumors that, you know, the, that Air Force One and that aircraft specifically have like directed energy anti missile systems on them. So like a laser anti missile system so it can kill missiles that are coming at it, which is wild to me.

[Tyler]

Does Iran have nuclear capabilities to reach us?

[Jimmy]

No. That was what the strikes in June were about.

[Mike]

That big bomb was about.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, we didn't want them to get it, so we, we dropped bombs on, on their nuclear capabilities. Iran is not a threat. I mean, China has about 500 nuclear weapons. We have somewhere in the range of like 2,000.

[Tyler]

I mean, I think after about five or six. Yeah.

[Mike]

I mean, I don't think you're going to get the number 2000.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, I mean, well, I mean it's, I think that's more of a, like, okay, you shoot 500, let's say 100 get through, we're shooting 2,000 at you from all over the map.

[Mike]

Like, I think we're all done at that point.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, Yeah.

[Mike]

I mean, I don't think any of us have tickets to get on the doomsday plane either.

[Tyler]

No. How many nuclear bombs do you think could go off in the western hemisphere, in our country, and still have a survivable country without the nuclear winter?

[Jimmy]

Okay, so I'm gonna, I'm gonna go a little bit.

[Tyler]

I know you don't have any, like, formal education. I'm just asking your opinion.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, I'm gonna go with. I think that America, like humans in general, are very, very resilient. We've survived pretty significant extinction events before. I think that we will survive that. Remember that. You know, modern nuclear weapons don't normally have the amount of radioactive fallout for extended periods of time. It's not like Chernobyl where it's going to be nuclear forever. That was a very different thing.

[Tyler]

So are they any different from the bombs used in Hiroshima and Nagasaki? Are they.

[Jimmy]

They are exceedingly different. So the, the bomb that was dropped on Hiroshima was, I want to say, a half a megaton. We have bombs that are 500 kilotons.

[Tyler]

Is that bigger or smaller?

[Jimmy]

That's a hundred. That's a thousand times bigger.

[Tyler]

Okay. With less fallout.

[Jimmy]

Yes, because one is. Those are hydrogen bombs, the ones that we use now instead of. Oh, man, I'm, I'm dating myself here. Like, I haven't done a lot of research lately on nuclear stuff, but I can do it, you know, I don't.

[Tyler]

Yeah, I think that'd be a great topic to discuss. I just, I don't have any knowledge on it.

[Jimmy]

Let me, let me do some research for you real quick.

[Tyler]

Okay. I, yes, again, I don't, I do not think that we were in any danger.

[Mike]

The atomic bombs were uranium and plutonium.

[Jimmy]

Yeah. Yeah, so. So that's. Let me see.

[Tyler]

I forgot to pee and I'm drinking a lot of water. So I'll be right back. Don't say anything cool without me.

[Jimmy]

So, yeah, so we have the, the fission bombs. Those were atomic bombs and. Oh, okay. He said wait. Okay, I'll wait. Because he asked the five year old.

[Mike]

Question, do whatever you do.

[Jimmy]

Whatever, dude. Sometimes it's like talking to like, you know, like, I imagine that this is how I was when I was a kid. Like, people are asking questions. You're like, I. That is a very intense question that I'm not sure I know all of the Answer to, you know, like, dad, what makes the sky blue? That's.

[Mike]

Yeah. Basic stuff for Tyler. Like, you know, how does a car drive down the road and things like that?

[Jimmy]

Hey, I. I did. I mean, there's a lot of stuff going on in law enforcement too, by the way. I mean, did you. Yeah, I know.

[Jerry]

I.

[Mike]

The bombing of the dude in Greenville, whatever the. That thing was. And then I know that the big thing in the feds right now is the Supreme Court's hearing the arguments on transgenders and female sports that should be out today.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, well, I mean, and then. Plus that ambush with that incendiary round on that.

[Mike]

Yeah, that was in Greenville, South Carolina. Yeah, I was dubious. Sitting in the parking lot in Greenville, South Carolina, whatever the. That thing was. That was wild.

[Jimmy]

Yeah. I mean that. I think that's dragon's breath, that. The shotgun round.

[Mike]

So imagine just sitting.

[Jimmy]

All right, so, Tyler, the. The atomic bomb that was dropped on Hiroshima, which is a fission bomb, and then what we use now are hydrogen bombs, which are thermonuclear fusion bombs. So a very, very different kind of weapons that still has immense amount of destructive power. But the fallout is not as significant. I mean, it's not as long lasting. Like there's going to be some fallout, but not like people, when they think of fallout, they think of like a TV show and a video game and whatever. Yeah, but the. We're not going to see like nuclear irradiated wastelands like people think that we will.

[Tyler]

Okay, that's good to know. I mean, I.

[Mike]

Obviously, unless it comes to your city.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, well, but the fallout's going to be gone and the. And the residual radiation is going to be gone. Remember when we look at Hiroshima, the reason why it's still so radioactive is because the nuclear reactor was burning and exposed for months and it. Everything down to the water, whereas with a nuclear explosion, it's going normally their air burst, they explode in the air, the air blows it away. And that's pretty much it. It's just destroyed and terrible.

[Tyler]

I thought they rebuilt Hiroshima, Nagasaki.

[Jimmy]

I've been to Nagasaki.

[Tyler]

So it can't be any more fallout, right?

[Jimmy]

Yeah, no, it's. It's done. I mean, it was bad for a couple of weeks, but after that biggest firework, there's still some buildings there that were left over from the bomb.

[Tyler]

And.

[Jimmy]

I'll tell you what, it's keeping.

[Tyler]

It for historical value.

[Jimmy]

Absolutely they are. It's moving, being there. And like looking at those buildings going, damn, man, don't with America, don't Touch our boats, we'll drop some atom splitters on you.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

That was so the first. The first cities. You think they. I think they would hit Washington D.C. obviously, I think they would hit Fort Bragg. Yeah. I mean, I don't know if you were to hit a military base.

[Jimmy]

Actually, the. The one that I'm most concerned about is Tampa.

[Tyler]

Why is that?

[Mike]

He lives there.

[Jimmy]

Well, yes, that is why. But the reason why I would hit Tampa is because u. S. Central command is there. So that's the command for all the Middle east. And u. S. Special operations command is there at Tampa. So it's a good target to hit. You know, if you wanted to wipe out a lot of. I mean, honestly, though, like, people think about, like, oh, we can wipe out the head shed and that'll cause chaos. It's like, no, I think we'll actually be better without them. I think the U. S. Military would be better without the headshed.

[Tyler]

Is there any way. How do you think there's any way to get out of warning? Like, if they warned in enough time, you could get out of the blast radius or. No, obviously it would be gridlock. So when they warn the public, you're.

[Jimmy]

But, dude, I mean, you know, depending on what fires it, if it's. If it's like a. I mean, and this is. I mean, Mike, you probably remember the cold war better than any of us. I mean, I'm not saying that. I'm not even making a joke there like you. I was, you know, I was born in 1984. So, I mean, I'm assuming you at least remember having to do air raid drills.

[Mike]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Jimmy]

If. If a nuclear.

[Mike]

Like my. My terrible new show that I started that Tyler hated, it kind of had that warning come across the screen. The emergency broadcast came across.

[Tyler]

New show was that. Mike, I get them confused.

[Mike]

You know, when you're on so many and carrying everybody, it's. I know it's tough to keep up with, but it was actually on my own cotteville network, which y' all can suck a dick because it's my channel.

[Jimmy]

But hey, I'll come on the network.

[Mike]

You stick with Tyler, man. You guys hang out in the studio. I'll. I'll run everything from the house. No, but I do remember, like, going over the air raid signals in the. In the middle of football Friday night, the thing goes off and you got a minute. All that.

[Tyler]

They would test it on Friday nights.

[Mike]

Oh, they would hit it the worst possible times. They would just. All of a sudden you're sitting there Watching tv, and here comes this emergency broadcast, and it was, you know, crazy noise, and if this was a test, go hide. Yeah. My grandma was German, so I can tell you what she thought about it.

[Tyler]

What did she think about it?

[Mike]

No, I can't say.

[Jimmy]

My TV just decided to start playing nude music while I was.

[Tyler]

Mood music.

[Jimmy]

Oh, so I can keep you.

[Mike]

I did, too.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, dude. Hey, I mean, maybe it's that, too. Who knows? Yeah. So when. If a. If a nuclear submarine, like a ballistic missile submarine, like, you know, a Typhoon class submarine fired, you'd have, like, three minutes.

[Tyler]

Do they?

[Jimmy]

Yeah, out there we do. Yeah. The. The Russians don't know where they did. I mean, that was a whole big part of the Cold War, which was nuclear missile submarines coming out of Polyarny getting followed by American attack submarines and followed through their whole patrol so that if the war started, we could kill them immediately.

[Tyler]

So we're pretty sure Russia doesn't have any out there right now?

[Jimmy]

No, they don't. They have them, but they don't have any out there, like, off the coast of the United States.

[Tyler]

There's no chance they don't have a submarine that we're not tracking?

[Jimmy]

No, we already know all of their boomers. I mean, like, I can go really deep into. Into that because it's something that, like, is just really cool to me. We can tell what every one of their nuclear missile submarines sounds like. They all sound a little different. And we know, like, hey, Red October is leaving Polyarny. Okay, we'll just follow them. And they. They. We have what's called the SOSIS warning net, so. So it's a undersea sonar system that we can basically just listen to everything going on in the ocean. So, like, I'll give you an example.

[Mike]

That's the stuff we know about.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, that's just what we know about. So I'll give you an example. You remember the. The Titan submarine that went down to the Titanic and killed all.

[Tyler]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yep.

[Jimmy]

The U.S. navy knew within five minutes that it had imploded. And exactly where it was. They.

[Mike]

Right. They didn't want anybody to, like, leak it.

[Jimmy]

First of all, it was like, hey, can we release this information to the public? Because that's pretty significant information, like, and a significant look at our capabilities. So they finally went, yeah, you can release it to the public. And so by that time, a day had passed, and they're like, hey, we think it went down. We think it went down right here. And so, of course, they go down there, and there it is 500.

[Mike]

Terrible idea. Can you imagine getting in? I wouldn't get nothing for there ain't enough money on Earth. No thing.

[Tyler]

That's some white people right there.

[Jimmy]

It was an Indian.

[Mike]

Dumbest I've ever seen.

[Tyler]

Well, I mean, that's the same thing I think about when people are trying to fly to Mars, like live on Mars. Are you nuts?

[Mike]

I'd rather take my chances of getting to Mars than go thousands of the.

[Jimmy]

Ocean man going down the Titanic to get.

[Tyler]

Well, they didn't feel anything. So that's good.

[Mike]

HDT got HD YouTube videos of the whole scene. Like there it is watching on tv.

[Jimmy]

Yeah. If I'm gonna die, I'm go, excuse me. I'm going out like a g. I'm going out like Mark Watney on, On the Martian. I'm not, I'm not gonna get crushed in a tube of darkness.

[Mike]

And they're like, here, here's the controller and it's a Xbox 360 controller here ship. You're like, yeah, can you let me off this now?

[Jimmy]

Teemu is exactly right. It's a TEU sub.

[Tyler]

Yeah. All right, well, I mean, so let's jump into Iran. You got updates on Iran?

[Jimmy]

Yeah. So I go into depth on this, on the shadow cast, but basically the protests are continuing right now. Starlink is very much trying to give access to the people of Iran. There's some other things we're probably going to try to do, like I said, psychological operations and things like that. But we're kind of, I mean. And I'll even pull it up in real time. Right now this is. I'm going to, eventually I'm going to go through exactly how I collect and collate the information that I get so that like people understand exactly what it is that I, that I'm doing, which I think will be a cool episode. Just like this is how I get it. WWW so right now.

[Tyler]

You'Re gonna give away your open sources?

[Jimmy]

I'm not giving away my, I'm not going to give away my, my human sources. No, I am going to talk about like, hey, you can go get this information yourself and do your own analysis. But I mean, let's be honest. Like, even if I gave that to you and Mike, you'd be like, nah, Jimmy, you do it. I don't want to do that. And most people are like that. So I'm not really afraid that people are going to stop listening to me because they're gonna have to go do the work. And most people have a job where they don't talk into a microphone like I do so.

[Tyler]

Okay.

[Jimmy]

But right now, I mean, it's, it's not, there aren't just, they're just, I mean, I'm looking at it right now. There's just not a lot of indicators that it's, it's going to be a very busy time. I mean, there is no pizza getting ordered to the Pentagon right now. None to setcom. Like, those guys are not turning and burning in there. They're, they're just having a normal work.

[Tyler]

Day, so they're not sleeping at work.

[Jimmy]

I don't think we're gonna. Yeah, I mean, like, I, I actually have real time intelligence on how busy all of the pizza joints are within 10 miles of the Pentagon pizza party.

[Tyler]

That's crazy that they can use it like that.

[Jimmy]

Right there. Can you see it?

[Tyler]

It's not empty. There you go. You would think they'd be like, hey, guys, don't order a pizza when we're doing ops.

[Jimmy]

Okay, now that's a great point. That's a, that's a really great point because this is known for your nuggies to work. That might be the case. Right.

[Tyler]

But everybody. Chicken nuggies.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, bring your chicken nuggies and your Sunny Delight. Don't order pizza. Which is what they did the night of the strike. Everything was quiet at the Pentagon. Right.

[Mike]

Creature was stirring.

[Jimmy]

But what the, the indicator that was missed was how busy it was leading up. Like, it was, it was busier than normal, but not like super busy, but it was like a constant busy, right?

[Tyler]

Yeah, that's a good question. I mean, why don't they have the people just stay and keep the chow hall open?

[Jimmy]

I, I, I, that's actually probably a really good question. Those are civilian workers. And, and most of the people in the Pentagon or the military, you know how it is. Civilians go home, your ass is staying here.

[Mike]

Civilians run the place. They do whatever they want.

[Tyler]

So. White monster waiting for me in the fridge. Efron.

[Jimmy]

Dude, yesterday, he, he goes into the fridge and he goes, God damn it. I'm like, what's up, dude? He's like, I thought I had a white monster in here. I was like, I did not drink.

[Mike]

It and I gave it to. You let somebody else drink it the other day, Matt. Yes.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Jimmy]

Oh, well, yeah, okay. Matt. I have no problems with that one like that. It's on me. If I.

[Tyler]

What do you think about this, Jimmy? Efren says cooks need sleep. Jimmy had the thing for cooks. He doesn't think they work hard enough.

[Mike]

Really? I think it's a miserable job.

[Tyler]

Remember?

[Mike]

So mad he growled, oh yeah, I forgot about that.

[Tyler]

I have that.

[Jimmy]

That's what I do.

[Tyler]

That's cut into a real. What? So what happens is I'll cut a bunch of reels, but sometimes reels take precedence over like the news. So like right now, like I have like eight reels that I gotta put out. But like, if they don't, if they're not current events, they kind of sit on the back burner until I can. Until there's like a lull in current events. But like, you know, I got that one makes. That one's a good one.

[Jimmy]

Yeah. I mean, dude, I was, I was so heated that I remembered that like, Dan reminded me of that. That like, I was mad for like 20 minutes after the show.

[Tyler]

I remember he continued his growling all the way through. No, afterwards, when me and him and Matt were hanging out. Dude. So Nick from Good Cop Bad Cop hit me up and he said, hey, would you guys like to be a part of this network? And I'm like. Immediately my head, I'm like, well, we are a part of counterculture that we own, so you'd have to be very enticing offer, but it turns out it's called Revel Reveal. R e. No, it's R E V E L. It's got. It's that, you know that really bald firefighter that does those hilarious skits.

[Jimmy]

Yes, yes, I know who you're talking about. The one that it's. Yes.

[Tyler]

Yeah, I mean, he's just, he's a tick tock guy. He's a firefighter. But they're, they're funny. They're not like, they don't ruin the profession or anything. But he talks about just the certain types of calls they go into in houses. He co owns it with somebody and it's like a Netflix. And they were like, hey, they're, you know, they're interested in talking to you guys. And I was like, I mean, more exposures, more exposure. It's not. It's kind of like us, like, it's. You can tell it's owned by first responders, but it's not a first responder network. They've got all kinds of different genres. So it's. I mean, it's like a mini Netflix.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, it's like firefighter.

[Tyler]

But if you guys want to look into. It's R E V E E L.

[Mike]

And what is it on?

[Tyler]

It's. It's not. It's like an app. It's like Netflix.

[Mike]

Oh, okay.

[Tyler]

See if I can pull this guy up.

[Jimmy]

Oh, this is the that. This is the that Jay was talking about. His reveal is what it's supposed to be, but spelled, like, real.

[Tyler]

Oh, okay. I'm looking up the guy so I can show him to y'.

[Mike]

All.

[Tyler]

All right, I know there's a lull because we're all researching, but I'm bringing it up right now. Share screen. Share. It's this guy. You ever seen him, Mike?

[Mike]

No.

[Jimmy]

Make sure nobody gets over there.

[Mike]

Dispatch, I have a down power line.

[Jerry]

Sparking on the ground, please.

[Tyler]

Hey, hey, hey. What?

[Jimmy]

What do you mean, what, bro? There's a power line on the ground, dude.

[Mike]

You need to go around to the other side.

[Jerry]

Nah, I'm good, man. I'm just gonna jump over it.

[Jimmy]

No, dude, you can't jump over power lines, bro. You're gonna die. No, I won't, man.

[Tyler]

I've seen it in movies, bro.

[Mike]

As long as I clear it far enough, I'll be completely. I'm gonna go around.

[Tyler]

Oh, crap.

[Jimmy]

Hey, go to the other side.

[Tyler]

That's him. I mean, like I said, it's caseful. It's not, like, you know, disgusting. Oh. Oh. What do firefighters do? They can't go out and do police work. There's only so much fire.

[Mike]

They quit. That's what they do.

[Tyler]

But anyways, that guy apparently co Owns it. They're interested in doing it. So once I get a hold of them, I gotta link them up with Matt and let him do business talk.

[Jimmy]

That's. I mean.

[Mike]

I mean, we.

[Jimmy]

Are we gonna do skits?

[Tyler]

Dude, I just. No. For that. No, it's not. It's like movie based. It's like a. It's not like a skit based. It's not like an app for your phone. It's like if you were sitting on your couch and you wanted to watch something, they have, like, indie movies out there, so it can be movie stars. Huh?

[Mike]

Will be movie stars. I can bring back my tick tock days.

[Tyler]

I don't know how they'll run a podcast or a broadcast on there every day, but we'll see. Clint says, dude, the biggest bodybuilders and Bragwell cooks. Yeah, they were all.

[Jimmy]

That is true.

[Tyler]

They were all. And.

[Jimmy]

And. And the cook that I had a fistfight with was bigger than me.

[Tyler]

Yeah. So also, I would. I would remember, like, working out, like, wasn't a thing in, like, the infantry. Like, you had to do pt, but, like, lots of units, especially non. Like, in. In the special forces realm. A lot of the Non Green Beret support. People would just go to the gym in the mornings. Like, they. They still lived in big boy rules, and they could just. They were all so jacked, dude. Every single one of them.

[Mike]

Natty.

[Jimmy]

We did. I mean, in the 25th, we did PT twice a day, every day.

[Tyler]

You did PT twice a day? You know what, though? That's actually better for the schedule. Rather than waiting around. I say you do your PT in the morning. Right? That's what brings the platoon together. It sucks. There's nothing fun about Miller army infantry, and it doesn't. But, yeah, the second session should be something that everybody enjoys. Like, not something gay like Frisbee, but, like, working out.

[Jimmy]

We used to, like. It used to be, like, we would play football or basketball, but then the commanding general banned basketball as PT because we had so many people get hurt in a very short period of time.

[Mike]

Too many guns were pulled out, rolled ankles.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Jimmy]

The cooks were all like, you dog.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Jimmy]

So, I mean, like, yeah, we had a lot of people. We had a lot of people with ankles and foot injuries playing basketball.

[Tyler]

Yeah, I can't run the 5 miler tomorrow morning. I hurt my ankle. I could see that. I could see that.

[Jimmy]

Yeah. So it was like, nope, no more basketball. And then that became gym pt. And then eventually we had a. We had, like, a storage room next to the common area of the barracks, and they just cleaned that out and turned it into a gym. They put the little squishy mats on the floor. We had a weight room in there. And so at after lunch, you'd come back about 1:30, everybody would go to the gym. And you just. And you're still in cammies. You just take your. Your cami top off and, you know, start lifting weights. And that's great.

[Mike]

Standard. That should be standard. And it should be standard in law enforcement. Like, it should be standard. I agree. All the way through.

[Tyler]

I. Law enforcement's very hard to do. That whole not together.

[Mike]

You should have to take your ass to the gym and work out.

[Tyler]

You want people. The guys you want. You want them working out anyways, like, can it.

[Jimmy]

Can I ask? It's gonna be working out because I.

[Tyler]

Get paid for it. Go ahead.

[Jimmy]

So, like, when you guys were hanging out 50 sixing, right? Did I get it right this time?

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Jimmy]

Okay. What's wrong with saying, hey, I'm gonna go to the gym. That's in my sector, and I'm gonna work out, and if I get a call, I'll stop and go, there's nothing there.

[Tyler]

It's Just department to department, we get.

[Mike]

Yeah, we were allowed to do that. We could check admin and go to the gym.

[Tyler]

So there's ways to do it, Jimmy. You can do it where you got your buddies covering for you and you only leave if somebody needs a backup. But you can do it right, you know you can. There are certain agencies that allow you to check out like admin time or, or you can take your lunch time to go do it. But at the end of the day you're not fully checked out. You have to have your radio on for that crazy ass call. Like you don't want to be working out and have like a shooting like two blocks away from you and you're just sitting there working out and they can all see you on a little map and they're like, what the.

[Mike]

And you got like Tyler, obviously, large, large agency. Ours being smaller. We had a amazing gym at the station. Like a huge CrossFit gym with free weights. There was no excuse. That's why I'm a little harder on it I think is because Tyler's agency is way busier spread out. Not everybody can drive from their zone all the way to the station. It's 30 minutes, 40 minutes. We had a, you know, our station is accessible like 20 minutes no matter where you are. And it's huge. It's inside the compound. So you're completely, take your off, take your vest off, go in and work out. No excuse. And still, I mean like three people would use it.

[Tyler]

At my first agency, there was no gyms. I mean, I'm sure there was a gym like in the training center. I think there was one. But we, I had, I had a crunch fitness card in my zone. I would go like I wanted to work out. Like that's, you know, and so there's ways to do it, you know. And at the end of the day, a real cop shouldn't be trying to figure out if, you know, I want to be hired by an agency. No, you should be trying to get to an agency where you run and gun with calls on the board when you get off on and calls on the board when you get off. That's being a real cop. Now you are going to get some assignments some days where it's like, dude, there's nothing to do and that's when you work out. But real cops, dude, they, you go in, you hit, you hit the calls, you log out and you go to the gym or you go to the gym. Before, dude, I was at the gym two hours before my shift started. My Day when I was a cop, result revolved around cop work. I went like, I woke up eight, did cardio on my own, showered, went to the gym at work, worked out for an hour, hour and a half and then went to roll call and then, you know, did my 12 hour shift and then went home and went to bed.

[Mike]

Well, you know how you like, you, your friends change as your shift changes, so you have certain friends. So like I had a whole group of friends that like to work out early, so we'd all work out an hour before work work and then years later it was right after. So at 4 o', clock, just drive over to the agency gym, meet about three or four dudes there, do a massive workout. But it should be incorporated. In my opinion, everybody should be going to the gym.

[Jimmy]

I mean, I think I did and I've never been a cop, but I think if you're a police officer, physical fitness and team physical fitness should absolutely be in the brain housing group all the time, just like it is for the military. I'm not saying you got to do PT together every day, but you should be doing PT together as a shift squad, whatever you call it, at least once a week.

[Tyler]

I mean, we're talking about going to the gym. Dude, there's, that is not the same as squad pt. That's why I considered like, yeah, we can all go to crunch, but you know, should we get a tire out back and a sledgehammer and some things that just suck and like, you know, have competitions and although that's not fun and I don't really think Mike can handle it right now.

[Jimmy]

But I mean, here's, here's my rationale, Mike. And, and I mean it's one thing to say I go to the gym, it's one thing for you to look at me and go, yeah, Jimmy looks like he's in decent shape. He's got a little bit of a midsection, but I mean he, he could probably still do some work. It's something very different where we are all working out together and you can go, bro, what the man? Like, you're big for nothing.

[Mike]

I'm an advocate for that. I mean I went from bodybuilding lifting to that years and years across tent and incorporating them both. So there's nothing more fun than like that. If we have like a, hey, we're gonna do a 5, 000 calories on the ski, the row and the bike collectively. And we do like a minute on, minute off. I'm gonna be busting your ass like, Jimmy, let's Go. Let's go. Get on the bike.

[Jimmy]

Yeah. And I'm gonna respond to that.

[Mike]

And that's what we. Yeah, that's. And the guys I hung out with, that's what we did. We did monster, nasty, crazy group team workouts. Like two guys like, you know, so.

[Tyler]

You collectively got to do 5,000. So it's a team thing.

[Mike]

Yes. Like our. Every. Every Thanksgiving we would do that workout. It was like 10,000 on the bike or. No, the bike was more calories. It was like 20,000 on the bike, 10,000 on the skier, 10,000 on the rower, and then it's four guys. So one minute on for everybody. So one guy gets rest, the other three are working. You just rotate machines and every fourth round you get a minute rest.

[Jimmy]

I like that too.

[Mike]

Yeah, yeah. They got all that stuff in there.

[Tyler]

I should also be. We should do the Murph, but.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

Labor. Was it Memorial Day or later?

[Mike]

Memorial Day. Memorial Day.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, Memorial Day. The Murphy.

[Tyler]

I've done it. I've done it once.

[Mike]

Done it with the vest and without the vest.

[Tyler]

I did it with the vest on spot.

[Mike]

Yeah, I have a picture. Wait, so completely.

[Jimmy]

Wait, when you say with the vest, do you mean just the vest or the vest with the plates?

[Mike]

The plates. I did it with a 20 pound vest.

[Tyler]

How do you get it? Yeah, like a light plate carrier. Not. Nothing like I'm. Dude, it's not like an active shooter kit with like 40 pound plates. It's just, you know.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Jimmy]

Because I've got. I've got.

[Tyler]

You're running a gun in place in mine. We. But yeah, man, I think we should do things like that. That'd be good. Content. And then. But before I forget, Efren asked, because this is a good question, Mike, how many servings a day of electrolytes do you drink?

[Mike]

I drink. So if I do the Gator Light, I probably drink four of these a day. If I'm doing my own. I fill up like a half gallon and I put two servings in so it doesn't lose too much of the flavor and gets double and then at least a half gallon a day of electrolytes. And that's all I'm drinking. I. I snuck back in the Sprite zero. I don't want the caffeine. So just for like a. My. My cheat is a Sprite zero.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Mike]

Yeah. When I eat, like when I eat, I want a Sprite Zero.

[Tyler]

Very.

[Mike]

You know, drink half of it and then the next meal. But I usually drink four Gator Lights. You can actually Buy the Gator Light in powder so you don't. It's cheaper on Amazon or like the.

[Tyler]

Stuff I put up. But do you worry about over putting electrolytes in your system since you're not working out, you're not sweating?

[Mike]

No, it's good for energy. Energy and like, just overall hydration. I mean, it's great to be. Regardless if you're running or not. It's great to be hydrated, but can't even body. Even bodybuilders that don't do cardio are drinking a gallon of water a day.

[Tyler]

Well, gallon of water is different than overdoing electrolytes.

[Mike]

Yeah, but I don't. I'm not ODing on it. Like I said, I'll put one serving or two servings.

[Tyler]

How many of those little packet things do you. When you were doing those, how many did you drink a day? Two, probably.

[Mike]

No, probably four. But I'm talking like a gallon of water. So you got to get. Look at this serving size. Yeah, but it's the little packets, dude. They're just tiny. In a very small amount go into a gallon. It's not. Once you fill up a gallon jug and pour those in, you're not getting much. And that's when I was crossfitting. You know, I used to run between four and seven miles every other day. Like, that's when I was doing that kind of stuff.

[Jimmy]

Hey, what do you. What do you think about, like, pre workouts, you guys?

[Mike]

I'm not a. I'm not a fan. I just.

[Tyler]

Okay.

[Mike]

Raw dog it.

[Tyler]

So I do believe that you don't need pre workout if you need it. It's a mindset thing. I've done plenty of workouts where you forget it or you just don't feel like drinking it, but maybe it's like kind of later in the evening. I. I do. So I will say there's two types, Jimmy. There's stimulus stimulants that are very caffeinated, and they're the ones that make your eyeball tingle.

[Jimmy]

And then there's niacin in it.

[Mike]

Beta alanine.

[Tyler]

There's pump that gets your. Your veins flowing, which also has a different way of, like, getting you pumped up. I mix both. I take a half a serving of the caffeine stimulant because, dude, that will make my eyeballs and my butthole itch. It's weird. And then. But I like the pump one too, because that gets your vascular going. So I do a mix of two. But I use. I was using. I use ghost Right now, until we can find a good pre workout company to sponsor us. Ghost is. I just, I'll send you pictures of what I use. I mix the two every workout.

[Jimmy]

I, I was a first form guy when I was working out. Like, I mean, I, I, I used a lot of first form. And then when I was in Iraq, I mean, that was in the heyday of hydroxy cut. And what was that other one?

[Mike]

Xenodrine. Freaking hydroxy cut.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, I mean like, like it came in a pink.

[Mike]

Oh, jacked. Jacked was big.

[Jimmy]

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, like, I don't. It wasn't jacked because Jack was later, but like this was like 2008. And I mean like that was, they were like, we were buying it at Taji and going out to this combat outpost for six weeks with our big old jar of. And it's like, hey man, make sure you're drinking enough water because if you're, if we have to like throw the gear on while you guys are on pre workout.

[Mike]

Yeah, I'm not a huge fan of it. Like I said, I just would walk in and I just put the miserable workout on the board. And by the second minute into the workout, you're heart rate's 200 anyway. So it's like you're going, yeah, dude.

[Tyler]

There's always it. I always have to. No matter how old I get, no matter how many times I work out, there's always that. You just know you got to get into it. And once you're into it, you're like, this is this. I'm glad I'm doing it. But starting the workout for the first like 10 minutes, you're like, if you don't try and change your mindset, you'll hate the whole thing. But if you like give into the workout.

[Jimmy]

My, my, like getting ready for the workout, that first 10 minutes, I, I have, I have a ritual that I do like. And so I'll go over to like at Crunch, right? They have the little area with the monkey bars and what?

[Tyler]

Yeah, I said, how many cigarettes?

[Jimmy]

Yeah. Old school still.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Jimmy]

But I would go over to that area where like the, the little pads and the monkey bars and the sled is. And I'll stretch out, I'll do push ups. I, I normally try to do like 40 or more or go to failure right now because I suck. And then I'll do like, you know, like the rings where you're like on your, you know, kind of like on your back and you're pulling yourself up and then I'll Just do pull ups and I'll do a couple of sets of pull ups and. And then it's like, okay. You know, it's almost like army PT at the very beginning. And so that just sort of puts me in the mindset of like, I remember how terrible army PT was. Now I'm gonna go lift some heavy things and make my arms bigger.

[Tyler]

Well, Jimmy invented a new workout called face ups where his face goes up off the floor.

[Jimmy]

You guys, man, you, dude.

[Mike]

I know, I know. At SWAT school, there wouldn't have been many reps counted as a. I wasn't counting. I wasn't counting.

[Tyler]

But hey, you know what, though? Jimmy, Jimmy. They put their fist before anybody. Once Mike did the challenge, you got down knowing you even said, like, I'm gonna do awful. You did it live on the Internet, dude. You notice I wasn't down there. So you. All that does is create the before video for the after video, which.

[Jimmy]

That's what I was thinking. It was like, look, I know I'm gonna suck at this. There's no hiding the fact that I have a little bit of a spare tire here. There's no hiding the fact that two years ago, like, if you look at the pictures for me, two years ago, you're like, Jimmy was kind of big. And now it's like, Jimmy, you're. You're kind of turning into grimace, dude. Like, what the.

[Mike]

Definitely the Hamburglar.

[Tyler]

The one I'm talking about. The purple one?

[Mike]

Yeah, the purple one. Well, you guys haven't got to experience that. Like, I've been injured and I prefer CrossFit workouts. I like to lift weights as well, but I prefer long, miserable, like, suffering running. We started in June doing that little bit of running, but my knee just couldn't hold up.

[Tyler]

How you feeling now, Mike?

[Mike]

If I can get run, I can run. Let's go. Just one thing you're not going to see me do is quit. You're not gna see me quit.

[Tyler]

I don't know what happened, dude. He must have taken care.

[Jimmy]

You know what?

[Tyler]

We started this challenge.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, Mike, you. You brought up a good point. I believe you when you say I'm not gonna quit. If I went and talked to 19 year old paratrooper Mike, do you think, did he have that same mindset?

[Mike]

No. Didn't want to fail. Like the wind. But it was a different. It was then it was just the. The using the gift to be able to run. The mind. Yeah, the mind didn't. I'm telling you, my mind didn't come around until I was 38. 38's a number. I went, I'll you guys up like you're not gonna me up. Like when I made swat. Like I, I remember the two months before I tried out the second time somebody told the my wife at the time, he's not gonna make it. I saw his first tryout, there's no way. And I just went, okay, okay. And of course I'm sure 42 years old. Then I'm like, watch, watch what happens. And that's something. Unfortunately, my mind, I think got ahead of my body and that's why I am the way I am right now.

[Tyler]

Let me, let me ask you this, Mike. I've been in this kind of conundrum. I haven't ran cardio for cardio. I haven't ran since I left the job because I, in my mind I did enjoy running and like the suck of it and like losing myself in like music. But at the end of the day I was like, once I retired, I was like, I don't have to run unless I'm in danger. Now I don't have to.

[Mike]

Running is, is obviously CrossFit is better. You're going to burn more calories doing pull ups, sit ups.

[Tyler]

Like, but what about like when you want to separate lifting from cardio? Let's say you want to do two sessions a day, you want to do lifting and you. So you don't have to worry about the cardio during your lift so that you take it out of there. Is walking uphill burn just as many calories as going on a run?

[Mike]

I think walking uphill does and it's better for you and it's less stress on your body. I think that arc machine that I post a lot, which Crunch doesn't have it, Planet Fitness doesn't have it. That arc machine to me burns twice the calories of walking uphill quicker. And I'm an efficiency person. Like in my head I'm like, okay, if I can do 20 minutes of cardio and, and get done and I can double what I would do if I had to walk for 40 minutes, it only makes sense to me to get done so that. But yes, walking uphill at a very steep incline, usually 10 or 15. If it goes up to 15 at 3 miles an hour, you're going to burn more calories and it's better for you than running. Running to me was a mental health thing. I like to, like you said 92.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Mike]

I would put my hoodie on, I'd put a fucking weighted vest On, I would put music in and I would just go, this is gonna suck. And I love it. And I used, I guess my, I don't know, you know, I was on Tick Tock. I'm not, I'm not gonna play. I used the post at the end. Like, I'm gonna post my time at the end regardless if one person sees it or 50 do. I'm gonna show that I shaved 5 seconds off this run, and then next week I'm gonna shave five more. And I kind of use that as like, that's my self motivation. Like, you're gonna make this faster or else. And that's where I would just keep pushing it, pushing it and pushing it. And now I can't walk.

[Jimmy]

Well, I, I think that, like, I, I did not have that mentality when I was in my twenties. I, I just didn't. I, I was very much alike. I was relying on just like what you said. Like, I can run fast. It doesn't matter. I don't need to. Like, it doesn't matter If I shave 5 seconds off this or not. I'm still well under the minimum time or the, you know, the 1254 that I needed to run. I was way under that by almost two minutes. Like, I don't care. Why would I care? And now it's like I look at it and I go, I have to get better every day. I have to get better every single day. Even if it's just a tenth of a second, I have to get better. And I don't know what happened. Like, I don't remember when that came about in my head, but like, something changed in my mid-30s and I was like, nope, I'm. I'm doing something different. Maybe we just became adults.

[Mike]

Mine was my, I mean, not to go dark, but mine was my dad dying. My dad died at 54, and then I watched his sister die like five years later at the same exact age from heart failure. And I went, you can't do this, you can't die. You can't diet fit. I was remembering, you've all seen the pictures. I was fat, out of shape, and I just woke up one day and was like this. You can't do this. And my heart was actually below normal. I've actually brought it back to above normal. When I get my every year, like, my heart function was at like normal. Heart is like 50 to 55 on this number. And when you get your EKG or your ultrasounds done and I was running 45 to 50, which was slightly below it's already jacked up now by. By my family history. It's already in my whole family. Alcoholism, all that stuff I did didn't help, but I actually improved over the last 10 years and brought it up to above normal. Right? And that was one of the biggest motivational things is, like, you say maturity. I went, oh, I'm 25. I'm 30, 32. I'll drink, I'll party. All this. And then you wake up one day and you go, my dad's dead. His sister's dead. They both died at 54. And I'm, like, 10 years away from that. Like, that doesn't seem like a good idea. So a lot of it was like, what do I do to not stop that? And that's kind of where I get with, like, people looking me like, oh, he's a psychopath. All he does is talk about working out. Well, yeah, I don't want to die. That's the other side of it. So the longer I can stretch this out by suffering a little bit every day in the gym or running, if I can get another 10 years out of this, you know, the old engine, I'm gonna do it.

[Tyler]

So you think if you had to pick between the two, you think running is better for your heart than walking uphill?

[Mike]

Walking uphill. I think the walking. I think if you're going to do something overall that's gonna cause longevity and not jack your legs up. And running sucks, dude. It does.

[Jerry]

It's.

[Mike]

It's not for everybody. The catch all, to me, if you're gonna go, the catch all would be walking uphill. And that's Dr. Proven. That's that Dr. I follow that one I sent you. The. The guy that actually pushes the product we're using, the electrolytes he talks about. It's 5, 3, 5, 3, 10 30, 3 miles an hour, 10 incline, 30 minutes a day is like, the catch. All for, like, basic health. And you can go up. My challenge is like, okay, I did 3, 10, 30. I'm not out of breath after three times now. This week, I'm gonna do 12 incline at 3.2 miles an hour. And I. I'm always challenging myself. So it's always, add a little bit, add a little bit, add a little bit. Kind of like I did with the arc trainer. And, you know, how many calories can I get in 30 minutes? How many calories can I get in 20 minutes? And I start playing that game with myself in my head, and that's the only you're winning because all you're doing is pushing yourself a little harder. But for the basic person that doesn't want to go crazy, doesn't want to walk out of the gym drenched, walk uphill for 30 minutes.

[Tyler]

Jimmy. What? What? So what are you looking to get into with your workouts? Are you still in like the exploratory phase where you're getting your body back into it or have you gotten it?

[Jimmy]

Yeah, I'm. I turned 42 on in three days. Okay.

[Tyler]

That's right. Yeah, 16th.

[Jimmy]

So if, if we were in an infantry platoon, I would have never said that.

[Tyler]

But is that a live day? Are you here?

[Mike]

That's right.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, I'll be here.

[Tyler]

Isn't it? Oh, it's Friday.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, yeah, it's Friday.

[Tyler]

I won't be able to puck you by myself. I, I need Mike's help.

[Jimmy]

Yeah. I mean, so you know, but I, I.

[Mike]

Thursday at 12:01. It's his birthday.

[Tyler]

I'm gonna come in at 3 in the morning now.

[Mike]

I'm gonna pretend, I'm gonna pretend like I leave and you're gonna get him outside and I'm gonna. Terry Tatum right on the front steps there. Here comes some dude limping down the steps, limping down the sidewalk really fast.

[Tyler]

Film it.

[Jimmy]

Yeah.

[Mike]

Jimmy's down, Mike's injured. Call the ambulance. But it was hell of a birthday present here.

[Jimmy]

What I'll do is I'll bring my.

[Mike]

Flag hitting the middle ad or no.

[Jimmy]

Yeah. And you can kick me through a window.

[Tyler]

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[Jimmy]

Yeah. So you, you asked a really great question and it's something that I've been kind of looking at myself, which is, you know, my initial inclination is to go in there and just start doing what I had been doing when I stopped. And I am positive I will hurt myself doing it. I may not injure myself, but I will probably hurt myself. So I'm going to go in there and I'm gonna. I'm gonna be lifting weight for a while. I'm gonna go.

[Tyler]

Quint, man, I don't. Dude, that guy's a Beautiful Mind.

[Mike]

We gotta get a workout shirt with Jimmy on it, man. That's pretty good.

[Jimmy]

Your face with like Arnold's body.

[Jerry]

Yes.

[Jimmy]

And I was just thinking, man.

[Mike]

And a McDonald's bag. A McDonald's cheeseburger in the background. Jimmy.

[Tyler]

Oh, anyway. All right. Yeah, so I know what you're saying. So when I started. Oh, no, when I started getting older being. I compared everything cardio wise that I've done to the army and I was like, oh, if I run a mile and. Or if I run two miles under 14 minutes, I'm a worthless piece of. You had to keep in mind that that's the tip of the spear of America is out there doing that. You're. I'm in my mid-30s at the time. I'm. I'm in between 35 and 40 now. And I was sitting there trying to compare myself to 19 years old and I was like, dude, the fact that I'm out here running in the heat, you know, is, is wild because no one does that. And then. But as far as lifting goes, I've. I've been in better shape I've ever been in my entire life. That being said, I got on TRT like five years ago and that's helped, you know, that TRT doesn't just happen overnight. TRT like changes your DNA to be more optimal. So I'm saying that it doesn't change your DNA. I'm just trying to think of like the way, like it just. It's not like a. I don't think it might. Can correct me if I'm wrong. I don't feel like TRT acts like a steroid. As in you need to see a couple months of like mindset change, body change, you know, it. It's an overall thing.

[Mike]

Yeah. It's it's, it's. It bring. It's like, you know, running. I always call it, like fuel or gas. It's like running better gas in a performance car. It's like, it's going to make it perform better. The TRT dose isn't going to change, you know, not going to be on stage with Ronnie Coleman or anything, but, yeah, it's definitely a necessity. Like, you have to have. You know, you can't start that transformation with just garbage. Like, you're not, you know, you're. You're too old. There's nothing. You're going to be maintained. Your cardio is going to be good, you know, without it, but it just. You gotta get on. You got to get that body back to some type of, you know, optimal area of at least the dose of TRT to get. Continue to not, you know, you're not going to grow muscle on nothing. You're not.

[Jimmy]

It's not gonna happen.

[Mike]

Yeah, you know, there's not enough protein on Earth. There's not enough.

[Tyler]

I had 417, which isn't the lowest test, by the way. There's. Dudes, you. Y' all could be lower than me. Naturally. I just was like, that seems pretty low. And I was killing myself and I wasn't seeing, like. And then I just discovered this thing Joe Rogan was talking about, and I was like, it. I'll do it. I'm still not big now, but I.

[Mike]

Put two pictures in there. You'll my before and after from the start to finish. Start with the fat one. That's where I started.

[Tyler]

And how. What's the language?

[Mike]

That's 38 years old. And then about three years later, that's where I ended up. That was like my peak.

[Tyler]

Boulder shoulders.

[Mike]

Yeah, that was my peak. Like, I was like 6% body fat right there. Peak.

[Tyler]

Are you stuck in at all?

[Mike]

No, that's. Look at my. Look at the six pack, dude. I mean, I'll get a six pack. I only get that four. But that was like three years later. Peak diet. Everything's on point. CrossFit.

[Tyler]

Yeah, you gotta take the COVID off those four and a half packs.

[Mike]

Yeah, it's always there. But that was just a little hidden there. So that was.

[Tyler]

Oh, you definitely. Yeah, it's definitely because you got the big tattoo over the. And it's weird because it's reversed because you got the mirror shot on your camera.

[Mike]

Yeah, yeah, but so that. Yeah, looking at that. My right arm is on the left.

[Tyler]

Yeah, yeah. Look at those shoulders, dog. That's definitely Some steroid usage.

[Mike]

Oh, that's massive steroid use. But that's, you know, diet. You know, you can't. Like I said, you can take as many stairs you want. You don't eat right, you're not going to get there. That was diet. That was a guy named Dominic Fullington, locally, who programmed a diet from me for eight weeks. That was 100. I remember over those eight weeks, I had one potato chip and one peanut. Outside of the actual diet, you're supposed to take.

[Tyler]

Yeah, I mean, I'm.

[Jimmy]

I'm looking at my gym photos right now. I'm paying attention.

[Tyler]

Yeah, great.

[Mike]

Especially a rower. The row machine. Awesome. Awesome work.

[Tyler]

I did not know this, but human performance. Contact me. And they're like, hey, dude, we can. So, first off, I thought it was crazy that you could medically prescribe Anavar. And I remember saying, like, what do I say to the doctor? And he's like, just tell him you want Anavar. And I was like, but what do I say? You know, like, what do I say? He's like, just tell him you want Anavar and you're healthy. I was like, I don't trust that. So I went and Googled Anavar, and it's like, oh, it could help with bone pain. So I was like, oh. When I was talking to the doctor, I was like, you know, my bones, they hurt when I lift. He's like, okay, you want Anavar? I was like, yep. And so I thought that was crazy. And, you know, you do. Even though it's medically prescribed, you do have to do your own research, because you can't take that. You have to cycle off Anavar. But that's the first time I ever noticed my shoulders pop. Like, the first time. And I know it's. It's a light form of steroids. Like, women take it. And that's not a jab at anything. It's just women take it because it's not so extreme at a very low without. Yeah, they can take it without growing a penis on their quit. So. But so I started Anavar, and then they called me and they're like, we got DECA now. Talking to Mike afterwards, you know, I run 0.25 milliliters a week. Is that. And that's like a medical dosage?

[Mike]

That's perfect. That's good. That's me. That's good. I mean, I'll be honest. My first steroid cycle was DECA and test, and I was running. It's running about 600 deca and like, 700 tests. By the end of the cycle because you have to keep your test above.

[Tyler]

So is 0.25 considered 25? If you're talking 600.2 5.25 is point like a quarter.

[Mike]

So you're talking four quarters is a dollar. And I was doing $6.

[Tyler]

Yeah. So it's 25 out of 6,000. Yeah, yeah.

[Mike]

So you were. I was doing. You're doing 0.25. I was doing a full cc twice a week. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And you know, it messes with your. They call it decade. Definitely messes with your deck. You can't keep an erection is a miserable. Deca also holds water. So it's like a bulking off season type thing. But at that 0.25 dose, it's amazing because it helps your joints, keeps the joints water on the joints and it won't bloat you at that low dose. So it's very good for you. And it's another one that females can take. It's Nandrolin. So Nandrolin is another one in the female world. So you're like, right, it's a joke. No, Anavar is Anavar. Nandrolin is Deca, Nandrone Decanate. That can also be taken by females. Whenever I say, like, if it's a mild steroid, if a girl can take it, it's not bad for the guy either. You start getting into anything like test chicks can run tests on a very, very low dose. There's only a few steroids chicks can run and that's how you kind of gauge if it's mild or bad for you.

[Tyler]

So that's. I'm doing Anivar, I'm doing test Anavar Deca and I take Clomid for, for the anti estrogen stuff because I want to, I don't want to ruin my ch. You don't ruin your chances of having kids. But from what I've researched and I've asked and they said, yeah, Clomid is a safer bet to make sure your junk still works if you want to have kids.

[Mike]

The other thing is, is when you're taking testosterone and that stuff, it causes your estrogen levels to rise. And I told you at one point I went and got tested and my estrogen was high enough that it was in the female range and my test was high enough, obviously way up. And that causes. That's where you're the roid rage everybody talks about. If you, if you do steroids, you're gonna get Roy rage. That's false. As long as your estrogen is balanced right With Clomid. That's why you go to a doctor and HPTRT because they balance that stuff correctly. That allows you to maintain a normal estrogen level and it doesn't rise and then that's, that's what causes roid rage.

[Tyler]

So somebody, I got human performance up here. You know if you guys want to.

[Mike]

Look, you're not doing it. It's for any male. I'm telling you it is.

[Tyler]

You gotta at least do fast. And this is the, this is the cheapest test you will get. It's made for blue collar first responder veterans that don't have a lot of money. You get testosterone every month sent to your door. You do a virtual online doctor visit. And I'd say with Hero, I'd say test in, in testing your anti estrogens probably around 180amonth. And that sounds like a lot I'm telling you but it will change your life to where you'll pay full four or five hundred dollars for it. And that's how these companies get you is they charge so much because people need it. And so, and it's usually people later on in life that are financially stable. It's not, it's the demographic for them to make money is not the guys getting out of the military or, or mid level cops like trying to find it. It's meant for guys in their 50s and 60s that have that money but the guys in their 30s and 40s are the ones that need it most. So human performance is tailored. I co own it so I know all the ins and outs. It is meant for that. So the prices are pretty cheap. If you use Hero, I'd say it's about 180 bucks. So. But worth worth everything. Big Lido had a question for you Mike. Do you what do you think about rowing?

[Mike]

Yeah, rowing is great exercise. I know like Dallas, I don't like them but Dallas police department's entire PT is around rowing. Based on your weight, obviously that's working your back, that's working your shoulders, it's cardio, it's working your legs like that. Exercise in and of itself like a rower. If you're going to buy a machine for the house like I bought the bike Erg, which is not the fan bike with the here it's the bike that just pedal made by the same company. But if you buy one of those machines, a bike Erg, a rower, a skier, just one of the. And when I say skier it's the machine you pull down. Rowing is amazing. You can work in, you know, like I would do like a 300 meter row, 10 box jumps, 20 push ups, 20 kettlebell swings and do like four circle, four rounds of that. But rowing. Excellent, excellent, excellent.

[Tyler]

Dylan says, what should I start off with other than a blood test? I've always seen that, but I'm new to tests, so I feel like I'm getting to the point where I need and want want it to progress.

[Mike]

Just get your blood work done Sunday night. Yeah, the doctor and they'll square you up.

[Tyler]

Go to Quest or wherever you can get blood work done locally with your own insurance. You take and you tell them, I need my testosterone checked and I need my estrogen checked in that they're gonna check for everything. But make sure they check for that. Then once they send that to you, you literally screenshot it on your phone, Dylan, and you put it into the HP TRT portal. You just sign up like anything else. You just put in your email, create a password. You now you have access to the portal and they have like four or five employees that are working like 18 hour days answering questions. You get that submitted, they'll get you within a day or two. Scheduled with a doctor. And then once the doctor greenlights it, if you're 19 years old running 980 tests, they're not going to give you test. However, that being said, they're gonna, they give 99 of the people what they need. So. And then, yeah, it's shipped to your door and then you just.

[Mike]

It's absolutely the best deal because I know if you go to a local clinic or one of those places around town that are designer, dude, these guys are paying 300, 400 bucks a month for testosterone that they're just ripping people off.

[Tyler]

And they don't. And they don't. Here's what they don't do. They don't advertise that. They'll say, oh, it's 200 bucks. But then you have to do labs every six months and that's two or 300 a pop. So then when you divide, divide it by 12 ends up being around 300. So yes, you are paying that actually.

[Mike]

Yep.

[Tyler]

So we need to get Jimmy on the trt.

[Jimmy]

All right, so I got the before, middle and, and at the end pictures in there.

[Tyler]

Oh, you got. Okay, which one? So before is the mirror one, right? The circle.

[Jimmy]

Yeah. So that's when I first started contracting again.

[Tyler]

Okay.

[Jimmy]

All right. And this one is, this is the gym. This gym right here. The middle, that's, that's crunch.

[Tyler]

Oh, look at this.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, yeah, that's. That. That was when I was back on.

[Mike]

The floor in the store.

[Tyler]

Yeah, I love it, dude. I love it because you. You, You. You're like. You're a real man right there. You're like, I'm not done. I crush weights and I crush beer. So, yeah, I've had it.

[Jimmy]

And then in the. In the middle one, the. Yeah, I was.

[Tyler]

Yeah. I wouldn't even recognize you, Jimmy.

[Jimmy]

Dude, I was solid when. That was when I was contracting. Right there.

[Mike]

You can see that.

[Jimmy]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

Eat and work out.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, that was at the gym in Erbil. I was working out like crazy. And I was. Dude, I was a different human.

[Mike]

Yeah, that's all. It always is, dude. That. That time you remember it too. That's kind of like I get into the body dysmorphia and the mental health that comes with this as well is because when. When you get off of it and get away it your brain up. When you look at yourself really and you look. And you go, you fat piece of. You look at yourself.

[Jimmy]

And dude, I say that to myself every day.

[Mike]

That's the only thing that come though. I think the only negative is if you get into that kind of shape and get out of it. There is always that, like, you dumbass. Like, what did you do? Get out of the chips. You're always in the chips. Like, it's always.

[Jimmy]

It's.

[Mike]

I have that problem all the time.

[Jimmy]

So.

[Tyler]

Efren, really quick to answer your question, you can go to the va. I do nothing through the va. I don't. Mike's a VA guy, but he's learned to navigate the system.

[Mike]

Not with. I wouldn't. I wouldn't touch. Trust them with testosterone. They're gonna. They're gonna.

[Tyler]

I would just go to your request diagnostics or something like that and just pay 25 copay and get your blood drawn.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

What were you saying, Jimmy?

[Jimmy]

Well, so, like that picture that you have up right there, you know, understand, like, I was going out into sector every day as a contractor. I was busy. I was working with guys from Ranger regiment and seals and like all of these badass dudes. And it was like, I have got to perform. I am the. I'm the only non special operations guy here. I can't be the weakest link. I just can't. And I got into that shape and then. So you can see where I. I wasn't doing the contractor stuff anymore, but I mean, I was getting. I stopped doing so much cardio towards the end and I was really just Eating my brains out and lifting weights. And were you.

[Tyler]

Were you taking any supplements?

[Jimmy]

I. I was doing protein.

[Tyler]

And you were overseas with those guys, and you weren't injecting anything? I'm a serious question.

[Jimmy]

I didn't start doing injections, and I'll be honest with you, it was because I didn't like needles.

[Mike]

Okay. I had to get over that, too.

[Jimmy]

So I didn't start the picture. The last picture of me and the stall at Crunch. I'm on some gear right there.

[Tyler]

Like, Yeah, I can tell. It's the shoulders, guys. I'm telling you. Look at those shoulders.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, that. That. I was on that vein.

[Mike]

I tried to hide it. I tried to hide it, and I couldn't. That was where they got me. I was in dt and I kept your baggy shirt, like, Matt, kinda. And I. One of the dudes grabbed me. He goes, it was an Asian dude. Mike, why your shoulder's so strong? You're doing something. And I'm like, nah, dog, I'm good. It was like, you can't the shoulders pop? That's the first. Most men is where.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, first pop happens. I mean, I was. I was on gear for the last. For the year, right up until February of 2024. That's when I got off, Mike.

[Tyler]

Oh, go ahead. Go ahead, finish, Jimmy. No.

[Jimmy]

And so, But I mean, like, I can see, like, I can look at pictures from March of 2024 and go, Damn, dude. I was built out. And then I look at myself in the mirror, or I see myself on. On this YouTube channel. I go, you fat piece of. You. You are a painful human.

[Tyler]

Patience is a virtue, dude. You'll look at this a year later and go, damn, dude. Remember that. Yeah, Mike. So you're saying you have to. You get. You don't have to cycle Anavar.

[Mike]

I mean, you cycle everything. But Anivar, you can run for so long, and it's so mild. It's not like. Like, you know, it's not like. Because you're gonna be on test forever. Because most steroid guys cycle test.

[Tyler]

Yeah, yeah.

[Mike]

And come completely off. Now it's gone at a low dose. Anavar is so mild. Like, I mean, I don't think there's. I don't think they're gonna make.

[Tyler]

What about cycling off? 0.25 of DECA?

[Mike]

So low, dude, I don't think you're ever gonna have a problem. You know, you got to think when we talk about these numbers we're doing, and even me, you look at that picture, you're like, man, you're on some serious gear. Even at my heyday, I'm doing like a third of what, maybe less like a fifth of what bodybuilders are doing. Those guys are going absolutely. They're running 3, 000 tests a week, dude. Like 3, 000. They're running trend at like a thousand.

[Tyler]

And that's kind of like these bodybuilders, they live in like one bedroom apartments and they drive like beater cars.

[Mike]

And the other thing about bodybuilders you don't realize is they're eating is so religious. Like if you watch some of those meal prep guys that prep, they're meticulous in the kitchen, they're eating like very, very strict. But yeah, they're running.

[Jimmy]

I don't, I want to still have a good life. I want to enjoy my life. But I mean like I, I also want to be able to be Batman if I need to be.

[Mike]

That's why hprtrt, dude. And this stuff came along. It's free. It, it, it, it's absolutely like the key to longevity and a healthy life at a very reasonable price. You know, you'll spend, dudes will spend 180amonth on McDonald's and junk and, and this and that. And it's like, why not spend it on your fitness? Between the gym and your TRT, you're looking at like 220, 230amonth. You're telling me you don't want to live an extra 10, 15 years and be healthy when your grandkids are around? A lot of people that money, a.

[Jimmy]

Lot of people don't know this because we, because it happens behind the scenes. But like when I come in in the morning to the, to I, I'm normally like grabbing a McDonald's and Mike will be like, I see you got some McDonald's today. I see that McDonald's trash in there. And he says that to me and I'm like, yeah, man. And, and I, it's like what he doesn't realize that he's doing because he's with me is he's making me go, these aren't.

[Mike]

I know what I'm doing. Honestly. It's like a personal trainer in me is like, I'm not gonna talk because I've, I mean, it's been a while, but you know, we all eat whatever, but it's like just a little jab, like hopefully in the back of your head. And then when you get ready to start this program, you're gonna go, that motherfucker's Never gonna see another bag of McDonald's in. In the trash can. I'm gonna talk to him in three months and be like, hey, when's the last time you saw McDonald's? So that's kind of like me setting you up to come back at me and go, hey, when's last the last time you saw McDonald's? So it's like a. It's like a motivational little jibby jabby that, like, to help, and that's really what it is.

[Jimmy]

And so we have that, like, here within the studio, but that's, you know, also what it is in the community because we're on Patreon right now. That's exactly what it is and should be in the Patreon. Like, we. We should all aspire to be that way amongst ourselves.

[Tyler]

Yeah, I mean, we have a fitness. We have a fitness category in the messages. I'm guilty, dude. I, I stay in the general discussion when I can, and I do direct messages, but I'm terrible at standing because there's a gun one in there. Like, that cunt Vanessa made a bunch of them that I didn't really care for, but back, like a year ago.

[Mike]

But the whole SeaWorld, huh?

[Tyler]

Yeah. I mean, dude, we're on Patreon, dude. Let it weapons free. Dude. That. Yeah, Yeah.

[Jimmy]

I mean, how weapons free are we?

[Mike]

We, joker weapons free or no?

[Jimmy]

Because I, I.

[Mike]

It's common sense. Weapons free.

[Jimmy]

I'm gonna text you, Tyler.

[Tyler]

Okay.

[Mike]

I'm gonna get permission.

[Jimmy]

It must be good.

[Tyler]

What do you mean? What happened to Vanessa? Vanessa is a con artist that's mentally ill, and she was fired from everything that I own myself. She was fired from Anti Hero. She was fired from First Responders Coffee company, then rehired when they needed people to help run the. The new podcast. So she's been fired from everything. She was fired from jobs when she worked with us. She was fired from this, fired from that. She is just a fraud.

[Mike]

I think her. Her niche is she plays this very helpful role in order to get herself between you and another company, and then she uses that company to facilitate her own agenda.

[Tyler]

She did. Yeah.

[Mike]

That's exactly what I saw. It was like, I want to be involved in everything, but then I'm gonna side, you know, backdoor this company and get myself involved in this company and never bring it back to the entity.

[Tyler]

That started, like, elevated silence. Dude, Eddie hit me up and goes, hey, man, my boy. Jen's been trying to get a hold of you. And I'm like, what? He's like, yeah, it's a suppressor company. She knew about it and she didn't let us know about it. And all kinds of crazy. Dude. She was trying to. Her ultimate goal was to be Brent Tucker's assistant. She told me that. My ultimate goal. So I watched her progress. She started working for my clothing line. Very. And then she moved on. She did well. So I was like, okay. And then she moved on and made her way into Anti Hero. Once she was in Anti Hero, she had access to Brent. I told her. I was like, hey, she was doing a lot for Android. Like, you cannot be Anti Hero and Brent Tucker's assistant. I was like, there's a conflict of interest. We wouldn't have the same lawyer. Right? We wouldn't have. Like, you can't. You will favor brent over a 50. 50 thing. I was like, it's not a big deal. If Brent pays you more. That's totally fine. We'll just hire. We'll have a new assistant for Anti Hero. It's not a big deal. And she was like, I'm gonna change your mind. I'm like, no, I'm telling you, Vanessa, you are not going to change my mind. This is how it's going to work. She went and did it anyways. I think people thought that they could hide it. We fired her from everything. Counterculture, everything. And I think we were in Jersey City when we fired her. And then she was still on Anti Hero. And then I essentially fired her from Anti or. Brent was really upset that I fired her. Like, she's just a dude. Remember when we had. I mean, we're still in talks with them, but we had what? That baseball player that we were trying to coordinate with? She got the info and then held it. She wouldn't give it. And more like, vanessa, that's not your job. You were trying to keep that contact for yourself. We did the legwork to get that info. You don't just get to hijack people. And then what she did to that other piece of company, which I don't feel bad for him anymore, but what she did to that company where they hired her. And I'm like, vanessa, you can't keep working. Working for our sponsors. They hired her, she stole all their clients, and then they couldn't fire her because she was gonna bankrupt them because she had all the clients info, dude, she's a menace. And guess what? I'm telling you, she still runs tier one. All that first responder, you guys. You say that's her buying it all. I'm telling you, I Thought he learned his lesson the first time, but. And, yeah, what she would do is she'd go play the. Oh. And get guys like Clint to go, oh, yeah, dude. She's like, dude, she was poison, dude. Treachery. I think I've on her enough. What were we talking about?

[Jimmy]

I sent you a text message and said, I want to.

[Mike]

No.

[Tyler]

I don't think. Not right now. Keep it.

[Jimmy]

Okay.

[Tyler]

Keep it. There might be a time for it.

[Jimmy]

That shit's coming out. That shit's coming out. Just. Just from my own perspective, like, hey, stay tuned in the Patreon, because Patreon's coming first.

[Mike]

And within the first two weeks of meeting Tyler, I said that. But I'm going to want to have a special guest for Patreon.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Mike]

All right, hold on. Let me send them the link.

[Tyler]

O. Are you not gonna. Are you gonna surprise us?

[Mike]

Yeah, you'll know who it is. The goat. But I'll. We'll get him in here.

[Tyler]

Copy.

[Mike]

I mean, you'll see it first when he pops in. Patreon special. Yeah, Patreon special for everybody.

[Tyler]

Yeah, that.

[Mike]

But the funny thing about Vanessa was we fired her. And she didn't quit. She. She stayed. She, like, wouldn't leave.

[Tyler]

She had to be fired twice. Yeah.

[Mike]

We still had access to everything. And she was like. I remember I had to call her the last time. I'm like, hey, do you mind, like, removing all of the things that we fired you from, from your bio so people don't think you still work for us?

[Tyler]

Mike had to call her and be like, what do you not understand? You're fired.

[Mike]

And, like, you still have counterculture and antihero in your bio. Like, you don't work for us anymore. There he is.

[Jimmy]

Jerry.

[Jerry]

What's up, guys?

[Mike]

How's it going, Jerry?

[Tyler]

You got there training?

[Jerry]

No, I'm out here with my dogs. I just got home and I'm here. You have to see, I'm playing. Playing a little fetch with him right now.

[Jimmy]

Shoot him in the back, Jerry. Don't shoot him in the back.

[Mike]

You do a really cool thing. Tell. Tell us about that thing you do with the dog. What's that thing called you go deal with the barns?

[Jerry]

It's called Barn Hunt.

[Mike]

And they, like, I thought you told you about.

[Jerry]

They. They chase the rats.

[Mike]

So the rat goes in, like, a tube and they hide it in the barn. And the dog has, like, a certain kind of, like, Lewis with the Rubik's Cube. The dog has a certain amount of time to find the rat, right?

[Jerry]

Yeah, they Time it. And then. But. But there's. There's rules that you have to follow as far as you can't touch your dog. You can only encourage him. And after he alerts on the rat, then you got to pick up the tube and hand it to the. To the judge, and then you can praise your dog. But during the. During the hunt, they have to go through a tunnel, and they have to actually climb up on a couple bales of hay. So that's part of the requirements.

[Tyler]

Jesus. That sounds like a good workout for me.

[Mike]

What's the tip up there? What's the temp up there, Jerry?

[Jerry]

I'm at 43 right now. Yeah, we've had very warm weather here in Tennessee. It's been a warm winter.

[Jimmy]

Don't you ever miss Florida, dude?

[Jerry]

Yeah, I do. I do miss Florida. I do miss Florida. And I might one day move back, because now that my son is done with school and everything and he's working and he's on his own, you know, my wife and I, it's. It's not the same. We have, you know, lifelong friends that we. That we miss. It's not. I don't have the same friendships here.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Mike]

It's time to get Jerry down and part of the network permanently go back to.

[Tyler]

You're gonna go back to where you were. Are you gonna find a different part of Florida?

[Jerry]

Probably. We probably moved to Palm Beach. We have a lot of friends that live in Palm Beach.

[Jimmy]

So you call his show Old Cops?

[Jerry]

Yeah. So, you know, it. It would be okay to, you know, drive up to the studio once in a while.

[Tyler]

Yeah. Oh, man, that would be awesome.

[Mike]

I think we. And I. I'm having it to do over. And I think we will do another Florida show. You're. You. You nailed it. Like, we went too far south. We went way too far south. South of Miami down there.

[Jerry]

No, that was.

[Mike]

Yeah, the next show should be Palm Beach. That gives all the guys from Miami an hour drive. And it's Chloe, that. That's probably a. If we do another live show on that side of Florida.

[Jerry]

And there's. So there's so many restaurants and bars in Palm Beach County. There's got a big one.

[Tyler]

Big.

[Jerry]

Real nice ones. You could have a great show there.

[Tyler]

Yeah, let's do it, dude. Or something, man.

[Mike]

Yeah, we just went too far south.

[Jerry]

There's tons of breweries. There's tons of them.

[Tyler]

So.

[Jerry]

So what was the show about today? I just got home. What were you guys talking about?

[Tyler]

You're auditing nuclear warheads training Steroids we just kind of been letting it, letting it flow.

[Jerry]

Yeah, I, I'm just, I'm so disappointed with what's going on with the, with the ICE agents and stuff like that. It's just getting, it's so out of.

[Tyler]

Gary.

[Jerry]

My take is the, I'm really upset with the fact that the, the mayor, the liberal mayors are promoting, you know, non compliance with, with the local, you know, local, local cops are not allowed to even help or even assist the ICE agents on any level. So, you know, it's, it's bad because if they did help and assist, I think half this violent stuff would go away.

[Tyler]

That's, that's my argument, Jerry, is that federal agents aren't trained to be in our streets like that. They need the local cops to work with them to know the people, to know, hey, we don't, we don't stand in front of cars when they're trying to leave. It's 20, 25, dude, that's going to end up in a shooting. We, A federal agent that doesn't train in the street or doesn't work the streets for 10 years isn't, I don't really think it's going to know that. That's why we have, we have counterparts. We don't have the access to the federal systems that they do and they don't have the street and street knowledge and the, the community relationships that locals do. So it's like they have to work hand in hand.

[Jerry]

That's why they have task forces in the local, state, local, state and federal together.

[Mike]

The ultimate bait and switch, if this was all planned out right, would be the local cops play the good cop and the ICE plays the bad cop, but they're all in it together. And the locals could stand around and go, hey, yeah, yeah, we got to let them do what they got to do. They're the feds, but we're going to keep the people. It's the easiest way to make that all go where the good local cops could play the good guy. The feds come up, get their shit done. They don't live there, they don't live in the city. Get the people and get out and everybody would be fine. But I think it's treason. I think it's treason to not support the federal government in that, in the way they're doing it.

[Jimmy]

At the very least, it's impeding a federal investigation.

[Mike]

I agree.

[Jerry]

My other take is to avoid some of the violence is why it, what, when, when you, let's say you arrest one of these, you arrest One of these. God, be quiet, dog. You arrest one of these, you arrest one of these illegals that for like a minor traffic offense or something like that. So they run him an NCIC and he's got a deportation order and hold for ice. Well, what do you think the non compliant cops are doing? They're letting them out the back door. How easy is it to just call up ICE and say, the guy's already in custody. We just grab them right out of the jail. You don't have to hunt them down or anything.

[Mike]

Yep. That prevents neighborhood issues.

[Tyler]

They're not even the bad guys. They're saying, hey, ICE is taking you, not us.

[Jerry]

Like, it's, I know. And, and some of these people. And then, and then the whole thing that these guys are these other things that they're talking about is, oh, they need due process. When you have a deportation order in place already. What, You've already been to court. Why do you need due process?

[Mike]

You're gone.

[Jimmy]

I mean, that, that's a, that's a fantastic point, Jerry. I mean, and, and I, I, I never thought about it that way. But like, look, if you stop this guy and it says hold for ICE and you don't do it, you are the catalyst for the violence that's about to happen in your street. You had the opportunity to stop it, you didn't do it. And now you want to whine about the fact that ICE agents who don't know the area are, are getting in into issues with your, with your people, with your city, with the people that you have relationships with. All you had to do was keep them in the jail and we'll go get them, and then we don't have this. It's almost like it was designed for this to happen. Sorry.

[Jerry]

Yeah, I mean, I agree. How easy is it to just have a guy that's already in custody? You just go in there, pick them up, put your set of handcuffs on them and walk them out. You don't have to hunt them down. You don't have to go through a crowd. You just pick them up and go.

[Tyler]

The only thing you got to worry about is getting your handcuffs back. That's it, baby. That's it.

[Jimmy]

Yeah. I mean, how much money does that save? Instead of deploying 15 ICE agents to go do this? You said one guy in a million car.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Jerry]

Oh, it, it, it saves in every aspect. It saves time, money, violence, you know, but, but why are the mayors not cooperating? There's have mayors that are actually ordering the police chief to stand down.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Jimmy]

Because they don't care about their people.

[Mike]

You know this, Jerry. If you came across a felony warrant and a judge said you, you got this guy's got a warrant and you let him go, you would be terminated. They would find out you did that. The judge ordered and commanded everybody that comes in contact to take him. And you would be. First, you probably be investigated for corruption, because they'd be like, do you know this guy? Did he do you a favor? Did he pay you? Secondly, you would be terminated. Like, oh, I just let a felony warrant walk away. It's illegal. It's a, it's a United States code to come in the country illegally. A judge has signed an order, and it says you have to take this person into custody, and they're letting them go to me, start arresting, start arresting police chiefs, start arresting government officials and make them comply, that'd be my answer.

[Jimmy]

What.

[Jerry]

What's going to happen? What's going to happen when you heard what Tim Walsh said, that he's going to mobilize the National Guard to try to tell the ICE agents to leave. You're going to have, you're going to have National Guard guys trying to go against federal agents. What? That's a civil war.

[Mike]

Yeah. And we saw this. We saw what they looked like when they got out of the truck in the one city. So I don't see those guys being able to hold their own with ice. And you're right, you're creating a civil war.

[Jerry]

I don't, I mean, I mean, you're talking about. Would you, Would you, You know, let's say you're one of the ICE agents or you're one of the National Guard guys. What, what is your, what's your take as far as confronting somebody? I wouldn't, I would. You know, to me, that's like an.

[Jimmy]

Illegal order, closest to an unlawful order that I have seen so far. That if you are telling me as a member of the National Guard, that I'm a soldier, I'm an infantryman in the National Guard, and that my job is to stop other people in the federal government from doing their job, that is completely unlawful, that is almost exactly the same as saying, hey, I know you're an Alpha company. You need to go stop the guys from Bravo Company.

[Tyler]

Yeah, yeah.

[Jimmy]

It's, it's completely unlawful. There's no way that should happen.

[Jerry]

So do you think if that actually happened, that the guys would do anything or everybody would stand down?

[Jimmy]

I, I, I think that knowing the military the way I do, I think that in a Lot of cases, they're like, hey, we're here, and yep, we're here. Yep, you can see us. But I think it's before it even gets to that, because what you got to understand, Jerry, is that the governor can mobilize the National Guard, but the president can also take the National Guard and make them federal. So if the. If Tim Walls mobilizes his National Guard, Trump can immediately federalize them and then send them home.

[Mike]

Look at the fit the Democrats threw when Trump brought the National Guard for, like, safety and all the gun violence. They threw a fit. Now it's going to be. Now the governor's calling the National Guard to combat the federal government, and they're all okay with it. Like, it. None of that. None of it.

[Jimmy]

That is treason.

[Mike]

Yes.

[Jimmy]

That is actively using a military force to stop the enforcement of the federal law. That is. I won't call it treason. It's sedition. That is sedition.

[Jerry]

Do you think we're going to get to this or it's. It's gonna probably stop.

[Jimmy]

And I'll tell you why. This is a. This is my assessment, right? The. The political opponents of Trump want two things. They want him to overreact so that they can go. Because it feeds their narrative. Trump's loose cannon. He's gonna go out there and he. He doesn't give a. The second is they want him to use the Sedition act because then they can paint him as a tyrant. They want those two things. They want them one after the other or concurrently. And the reason why Trump's not doing it and we're all kind of going like, dude, sedition act, let's go. Is because he knows that after you do that, it's a very. You're. You're not far from firing on Fort Sumter.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Jimmy]

If you understand what I'm saying.

[Mike]

And I think the Chicago police chief coming out saying what he said, said, kind of steps out of. Of the. It looks like it's. If Chicago caves. Minnesota is kind of on an island by themselves now, because you had the Chicago aspect that they weren't helping. But when he comes out and says what he did the other day, like, you have to support law enforcement regardless, that isolates that one state now in that one city as the main. Only one.

[Jerry]

My dogs are going nuts right now. I'm sorry.

[Mike]

The system. So it's like you're kind of by yourself, and are you gonna fight the federal government by yourself? Like, that's dumb.

[Jimmy]

Well, and. And, you know, that's. That's the Part. I mean, that's a, that's really astute, Mike. The. To do a, something like this, you need to have broad support across multiple states. If it's only Minnesota, that. And they're on their own and it, Just because we're not against you doesn't mean we're with you.

[Tyler]

Right.

[Jimmy]

If you have nobody supporting you, you're kind of. Because nobody's going to come help you. So you really, when we start looking at this, and I think this is a deliberate plan behind the scenes from Trump and the Trump administration and a lot of other people like, hey, dude, this, this can't continue, man. This is not going to be good for you politically. This is not going to be good for your communities. You gotta knock it off. And remember too, that this is also, this Minnesota stuff is a very big distraction from a major federal fraud case that is landing straight on the governor of Minnesota. Don't, don't leave that out either.

[Mike]

Yeah, interesting.

[Jimmy]

He's been referred for federal charges, if I'm not mistaken.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Jerry]

Now, how is, how is it going to work where. I think the Governor Pritzer from Illinois has wanted to file with the, with their attorney general an order to remove ICE from coming into Chicago. How, how does, how can a judge order that?

[Mike]

They can't, they can't do that.

[Jerry]

They filed a lawsuit.

[Mike]

They can try, but there's no way the Supreme Court of the United States. That'd be a quick 90. There's no way the Supreme Court or anybody with any authority is going to authorize a state to enforce the la. Not letting federal agents. And it's, it's impossible that, that at that point, the republic is crumbled. It's over.

[Jerry]

But what happens if it's a liberal judge at a lower court?

[Mike]

He can do it. Yeah, but he can do it. It's not going to make it past a district, I would imagine it's not going to make it past even Democrat judges in the district courts cannot take the stand that the state can essentially secede from the union and, and not allow the federal government because it's a.

[Jimmy]

Loss of their power.

[Mike]

Yeah. And then you could just say, okay, we're not going to support, we're taking all federal funding from your state. Trump would, I'm sure, immediately would go.

[Jimmy]

That happens. The moment that that happens, the, the governor of Florida could go, you know what? You guys can own machine guns. We're not going to let the ATF in here. The atf, it's a can of worms. You can't open the atf.

[Tyler]

You.

[Mike]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's too. You can't do that. And they can try and try, but it's not making it past. I wouldn't even think it's district, man.

[Jimmy]

It's political theater.

[Jerry]

But each state is. Each state is, you know, kind of doing it on their own, depending on what the governor and the. And the city mayor is, you know.

[Mike]

But here's the funding. Pull funding from them, and they're done.

[Jimmy]

You guys need to understand.

[Mike]

And.

[Jimmy]

And me and Tyler said this on Friday. You know who gets caught in the middle of this? The poor badges. The poor guys in the National Guard. The cops and the National Guard and the federal agents. Those are the guys that are caught in the middle of this political theater. It's us. They want us to fight each other. Like, think about that for a second. They want street cops and National Guard and federal agents to think of each other as the enemy while these up here pull the strings on us.

[Mike]

To me, it's kidding me. It's an extension of COVID Like, we saw what Covid did and how cops. Now it's like, can we get the cops first? We're going to enforce an unconstitutional, like, restriction on American freedom with COVID Now let's see if we can get the cops to fight against the federal government. And it just keeps snowballing to the point of we're at civil war. Like, that's where it's headed if this stuff continues, you know?

[Jerry]

You know, think of this analogy like when you were answering calls or I was answering calls, the dispatcher gets a call, and then the dispatcher asks the complainant on the phone, excuse me, are you a Democrat or a liberal? Yeah, a liberal Democrat. Or are you a conservative Republican? And then that will determine whether I go to the call or not.

[Mike]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's kind of what we're getting to like. And it's like the side.

[Jimmy]

What kind of car do you drive? Do you drive an Altima, a Subaru or a Chevy?

[Mike]

Well, yeah, it's like the side that preaches equality, which is the Democrats. And the fact. Oh, God, we can't. You know, everybody's. They're the ones that are segregating everything again. They're re segregating the country. And it's just insane. It's insane that people vote for that. And I don't. And I will say this. Not all Democrats are bad because I don't want to do what they're doing to us. They're not all bad. There are just people that might like the stance on pro life, pro choice. There might be people that support welfare differently. They're not all just anti government, anti police.

[Jimmy]

I'm gonna disagree with you, Mike.

[Mike]

I don't think they all are.

[Jimmy]

I'm gonna disagree with you and here's why. Those are the same people that said when Charlie Kirk got killed that good riddance he deserved.

[Jerry]

Okay, look at, look at, look at Federman. The Fetterman's a Democrat.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Jerry]

But he's been very supportive of what Trump is doing.

[Mike]

Correct.

[Jerry]

And he's a Democrat.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, but what I'm not talking about like again, I don't give a what some politician says there. We are in a war now and you guys have said it and we've gotta accept reality. We're in a war now. It may not have start, the bullets may not have started flying yet, but we are in it. And the sooner that we stop looking at these people and go, well some of them are nice people and go, they're my enemy. It's my job to kill them. Now there are, I didn't choose this fight. They chose it. They're different levels.

[Mike]

There are different levels because you have like Portland, you know, Minneapolis psychopaths. You still have Democrats though that are just, they just don't have the same stance. Maybe on some other cop topics that aren't. And I'm not gonna say their name, but I become close with a family where everybody's a Republican except for Grandma. Grandma's a Democrat and she's not a psychopath Democrat. She's just a Democrat. She supports some of the things or thinks some of the. So we see the worst of the worst on social media. They're screaming purple haired freaks. And I get that's a problem. But just like there's not all Republicans are psychopaths. Like you know, they would call a psycho second amendment crazy.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Mike]

Somewhere in the middle there's still a group, group of people that can disagree and get along. But we're, they're trying to get us to not have that anymore. They're trying to get us to go, you're either American or you're like anti American. That's where we're being forced. That's the problem. That's the problem. When you say we're going to fight the federal government, you can't have two extreme sides. There has to be everyday Americans in the middle.

[Jimmy]

I respect your stance and was there in 2016, in 2026. I'm in a war. And, and, and you know, I have a Question, Jerry.

[Jerry]

Yeah.

[Jimmy]

When you come down to Florida, will you please run for Pinellas County Sheriff?

[Mike]

Broward County.

[Jerry]

I'd have to go back to my old place and get rid. And get rid of Greg Toney.

[Mike]

Yes, for sure.

[Jimmy]

Bob Gaultieri, man, Bob Gaultier. Get rid of that. He'd been in power for too long.

[Mike]

Yeah. There's a lot of them that has.

[Jerry]

How many years has he been the sheriff?

[Jimmy]

Since 2006.

[Tyler]

That's crazy. Dude that sheriffs in Florida don't have a term limit. They can just run forever. That's insane to me.

[Jerry]

Yeah, there's. I think when I was. When I first started, there was a guy in Palm beach county named Sheriff Willie. He was a sheriff for 24 years there. So that's a long time.

[Mike]

That's created by. That is insane. Insane.

[Jerry]

What about Grady Judd? How long has he been there?

[Mike]

He's been there about. Probably four or five terms. Yeah. If you watch his numbers, he gets 250,000 votes. You can't get rid of him.

[Jerry]

Well, some of these guys are in there. It's like the only way they're going to come out is if they die.

[Mike]

Yeah. The fact that Greg, Tony has a sport.

[Tyler]

He does something like. Something like that dude, it's, you know, Grady Judd. It's not only him, but then it's whoever he promotes after him is going to win as well.

[Mike]

He says that person's name, they could be the worst person on God's earth. When he says, that's who we support, that guy's gonna get 250, 000.

[Tyler]

Jimmy, we can't hear you. Can anybody hear Jimmy? I can't hear Jimmy.

[Jimmy]

Can you hear me now?

[Tyler]

Yep, yep.

[Jerry]

Yeah.

[Jimmy]

Okay, so here's the thing. I got friends on that were in the administrator, the. The admin side under Grady Judd. He's. He's starting to show signs of dementia. Yeah, it's not that big of a secret except to everybody that's not tied into Leo's really.

[Jerry]

So who's his undersheriff? Who's the under sheriff?

[Jimmy]

Let me find out.

[Jerry]

Because, you know, he'll probably, you know, he'll probably just say, okay, you guys take over and, you know, I'll go off.

[Mike]

He's got enough political pull to that. Desantis would promote or put in whoever he wanted. And then that guy gets a free non election. So pushing the sheriff and then he can stay forever. Yeah.

[Jimmy]

So did you see.

[Jerry]

Have you been following what's going on in Deerfield?

[Mike]

Yeah, they're trying to Take back over.

[Jerry]

It looks like they want to go back to their own police department. So they're going to lose. There's probably at that district and then that's probably like 120 deputies just assigned to that one district. Yeah, so that'd be a big slap in his face if he loses that district.

[Mike]

I hope so.

[Jimmy]

So his chief of staff is Steve Lester, who looks like Chester the Molester. I don't know, he may be a good guy, but like, I'm gonna. I'm gonna put it up in stream yard. Like when I look at this dude, he looks like a weasel. He doesn't look like a staff under a sheriff.

[Mike]

A street cat that's like their version of under sheriff. They all have a different name for it. Like, usually there's the. On deputy chief, which is like a cop still, and then there's like your chief of staff or under sheriff, who's a.

[Jimmy]

I mean, look at that guy.

[Mike]

Yeah. One, two, three, four. Like seven chevrons. I don't know, man.

[Tyler]

That.

[Jimmy]

That guy does not inspire confidence.

[Mike]

35 years of nonsense.

[Tyler]

All right, we gotta wrap it up, guys. Thank you guys. Do you have anything else to say before we wrap it up?

[Jimmy]

And we got eight times.

[Jerry]

No, I'm just gonna keep supporting you guys and I'll be watching him whenever I can.

[Tyler]

All right, thanks, Jerry.

[Jimmy]

Dude, I can't wait till like, meet you in person, Jerry.

[Jerry]

All right, well, you'll. It'll happen.

[Jimmy]

All right, good to go.

[Tyler]

Have a good one.

[Jerry]

Bye. Bye.

[Tyler]

What were you saying, Jimmy?

[Jimmy]

Well, we cut some good reels with Jerry. Me and Mike did.

[Tyler]

Nice. All right, well, thank you guys all for listening. Obviously this one's for the Patreon boys. So we will see you guys at 11am tomorrow. We with Whan Revis from the band A Killer's Confession. Formerly a singer of Mushroom head for like 11 years. So he's. He's very pro cap, very anti society accepting pedophiles. And he said, he told me he would, you know, what he would do if, if, if he needed to. And I was like, damn, you need to come on our show. So he is. So we'll be 11 o' clock tomorrow back on YouTube X and Facebook. We will see you guys then. Jv team for life.