The Antihero Podcast

Episode: 10/23/2025 — "What's REALLY Going On With GLOCK??"

Date: October 23, 2025
Hosts: Mike & Tyler
Special Call-In Guest: John (Listener), Brother-in-law (Caller)

Overview

This episode dives into the latest controversy surrounding Glock pistols and explores its implications for the law enforcement, first responder, and veteran communities. The hosts also address trending topics affecting their audience—from drug-smuggling submarines, ICE operations, to the power (and problems) of police unions—mixing serious discussion with their signature irreverent camaraderie.

Key Topics & Discussions

1. Glock Controversy: What’s Going On? (14:57–24:35)

Summary:
A viral meme/reel about Glock sparked confusion across gun owner communities. Tyler and Mike clarify what’s happening, specifically regarding Glock’s introduction of "V-model" pistols designed to prevent conversion to fully automatic fire.

Discussion Points:

• The viral Glock meme's success and impact (13:52–14:01)
• Not all big social media accounts (e.g., "GlockStore" on Instagram) are official Glock or in direct communication with the company (14:57–15:21)
• Glock is discontinuing some Gen 5 models and introducing V-models with internal changes focused on preventing illegal full-auto conversions (15:26–16:37)
• Most users won't notice the difference—v-model guns only visibly have a "V" marking where "Gen 5" would be (16:12–16:34)
• Glock’s move is, in part, a business concession to legal pressure from states like New Jersey and California (17:44–18:57)
• Debate on 2A "absolutism," manufacturer liability, and whether changing a product for criminal misuse constitutes "infringement"
• Memorable moment:
  • Mike: "It's the person holding the gun that is the problem. Whether it's fully automatic, whether it's a slingshot, whether it shoots pellets, whether it shoots grapes." (22:00)
• Glock will likely keep selling plenty, and older models will remain ubiquitous—possibly even appreciate in value amongst enthusiasts (22:25–22:46)

Notable Quotes:

• Tyler: "The difference is, is that Glock, from what I'm reading, is actually trying to fix a problem... being able to make a gun fully automatic is a problem. It's not meant to be fully automatic." (17:10)
• Mike: "Shall not be... What you're saying sounds infringed to me." (20:48)

2. Listener Engagement: Kevin Lee Lloyd Update & Civilian Support (07:45–13:52)

Summary:
Listener John from El Paso called in to share his experience trying to visit Marine Kevin Lee Lloyd in hospital after hearing about him on the show, underscoring civilian support for military and law enforcement.

Highlights:

• John explained his motivation: "God put it upon my heart that, like, you're five minutes away, dude. Why don't you go try?" (09:20)
• Ultimately, Kevin wasn't accepting visitors due to medical reasons, but John will try again (11:59–12:11).
• Both hosts praise John, emphasizing the importance of everyday Americans supporting first responders and veterans.

3. Charity of the Week: Hope Recovery Services (25:38–30:25)

Host Highlight:

• Pastor Mike (“Hope Dealer”) helps people overcome addiction through faith-based recovery.
• Listeners who donate receive his book and two free coaching sessions for themselves or someone in need.
• Donation details provided; strong emphasis on the impact of supporting real-world recovery initiatives.

4. Drug Submarines & Border Security (31:12–36:15)

Summary:
The hosts discuss recent video footage of a Venezuelan-made narco-submarine interdicted in the Pacific, used for drug smuggling to the US.

Key Points:

• This marks a growing trend in increasingly sophisticated smuggling operations (33:37)
• Discussion about the failure of previous drug policy and the need for harsher penalties for gun/drug offenses (23:57)
• Border security, ICE operations, and their public perception; the political dynamics around immigration enforcement (34:00–36:32)
• Mike: "The craziest thing to me... we've gotten so bad as a country that it's shocking to people in the hood to see the law being enforced." (35:08)

5. ICE, Federal Operations & Local Law Enforcement Pushback (43:14–44:05; 44:43–48:15; 48:36–50:43)

Summary:
A viral video out of Portland reveals local police assisting protesters in identifying federal (ICE) agents, raising serious questions about institutional loyalty and political motivation among police.

Key Points:

• Law enforcement's relationship to their community, ethical lines, and analogies to historic events (49:32–50:43)
• The blurred boundary between protest, activism, and hostile acts against the federal government.

Notable Quotes:

• Tyler: "Antifa is working with local law enforcement. In any kind of conjunction, that is not acceptable at all. I don't care..." (47:22)
• Mike: "You can't collectively carry a badge and a gun, violate the Constitution in any way, shape or form and call yourself anything, I don't care..." (49:44)

6. Police Unions, Culture, & Internal Politics (88:08–101:11)

Summary:
Candid, nuanced discussion about the realities (and limits) of police unions, including their power, regional differences, and unintended negative outcomes (e.g., protecting bad actors, creating toxic internal cultures).

Key Points:

• Florida retirement system is strong, but police unions here have little practical sway or ability to protect officers against malicious departmental actions (94:55)
• Stories of how unions up north have much greater negotiating power, sometimes keeping problem officers on the job
• The myth vs. reality of "The Brotherhood" in policing: hosts explain it’s far less unified or supportive than the public imagines
• Discussion about how both civilian and LEO expectations around unions differ from messy workplace realities

Notable Quotes:

• Mike: "The worst backstabbers in the world are in that building. Why does it affect you? Because cops are mentally ill because of how they're being treated in the building." (102:13)
• Tyler: "Do you think all of [law enforcement] has been like that forever, do you think?"
• Mike: "I think it was worse. I think we actually were on the hook because now we have lawsuits, we have lawyers, we do have a little bit of social media... cops were doing wild shit in the 70s and 60s and 70s dude. They were protected." (105:10)

7. Other Notable Segments

A. Local Scandals & Auditors (63:11–74:26)

• Mike recounts a dramatic confrontation at a local government meeting with a longtime antagonist and explains the deeper political context of their town’s law enforcement scene.

B. Gun, Gear, and Sponsor Talk (51:44–62:50)

• Product recommendations and anecdotes from law enforcement/military gear, with colorful takes (“If you want a Kevlar holster so it doesn’t blow you...”) (24:25)

C. Sports Gambling Breaking News (54:36–58:13)

• Real-time banter about reports of NBA coaches and players being arrested in a gambling ring, plus a critique of modern sports betting.

Memorable Quotes & Moments

• "It's the person holding the gun that is the problem." — Mike (22:00)
• "You can't collectively carry a badge and a gun, violate the Constitution in any way, shape or form and call yourself anything, I don't care." — Mike (49:44)
• "Look at you with stripes. What are you now, Corporal Lacy." — Mike, quoting a local auditor’s viral video of a deputy (71:25)
• "Antifa is working with local law enforcement... that is not acceptable at all." — Tyler (47:22)
• "The worst backstabbers in the world are in that building." — Mike (102:13)
• Listener John: “I want to actually be able to do something. I don’t want to just constantly be consuming things... civilians got to play their part too, you know?” (10:10)

Timestamps for Key Segments

• Glock Controversy Deep Dive: 14:57–24:35
• Listener John Calls About Kevin Lee Lloyd: 08:21–12:51
• Charity of the Week - Hope Recovery Services: 25:38–30:25
• Drug Submarines & Border Security: 31:12–36:15
• ICE/Portland Cops & Protesters Collaboration: 43:14–50:43
• Police Unions & Internal Department Culture: 88:08–101:11
• Local Law Enforcement Scandal (Mike’s story): 63:11–74:26

Tone & Style

The episode is packed with blunt, at times irreverent, “insider” banter about law enforcement, guns, politics, and public controversies. Both hosts are unapologetically honest, unfailingly loyal to their “tribe” (vets, cops, first responders) but equally ready to skewer hypocrisy, bad leadership, or “backstabbers” within their own ranks. The show is conversational, frequently humorous, and peppered with strong opinions, but always circles back to core values of accountability, community, and service.

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